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hello everyone!
since two weeks, i am theproud owner of my first pocket pc, a HTC Blue Angel!
i am now running wm2003, but after reading all those posts about upgrading, i am starting to think about doing so myself! but why should i do this?
what are the big advatages of wm2005 compared to wm2003?
are there disadvantages as well? (regarding stability and bugs?)
i would be really glad if yome of the more experienced ba users here could write down their pros & cons for running WM5/WM3 on the BA!
btw: i read thru xplode's upgrading guide (Guide.pdf) and in the end ("side notes") it says, that i could totally screw my ba when i exceed free sectors of the rom while cooking.... what excactly does this mean? and how can i avoid exceeding free sectors?
I am really looking forward to read your opinions about the two os...
THX IN ADVANCE!
krztf
I would definately go for wm5
main reason is the different memory handling
(no more lose of data after battery runs down)
Just download one of the ready made roms versions.
(as I understand, you are not ready to cook your own rom)
and be sure to read the wiki first
(and this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243732 )
happy flashing
Wout
I could tell you this, my biggest reason to flash my BA to Wm05 because it has a better UI. N my 2nd biggest reason is because a lot of new programs written for wm05
Anyway if you afraid to brick your BA, I suggest you read carefully the wiki n don't use kitchen Rom, just use another rom that already cook by someone else. You could use Rom made by baniaczek or xplode.
I hoped it helps.
Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.
WM5 on Blue Angel is nice. But xplode rom and baniaczek rom are not really stable at the moment.
Tried both rom both got different problems... so I recommend you to wait for final release WM5 rom for BA thats free of bug.(Would it happen?)
Else if you wanted to try, you can try upgrading it... its really nice
Main reason is 60mb free ram..
and no more memory lost after battery going down
aha
thanks for all those answers!!!
but to be honest, i am still not sure if i should upgrade or not....
all those postings (here an din other threads) regarding pda overall speed, bluetooth and wifi problems, etc. make me kinda nervous! and i think, i am still anxious about frying my blue angel,... noobish but what can i do!
regarding the advantage of more free ram and no memory loss after battery's empty: is this really true?! always thought, i would need certain hardware as well, to benefit from this features...?
hope this discussion keeps goin'...
regards,krz
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Well how should i say... i dont believe anyone here is still using 2003. Would this be enough for you? Try it, if you dont like it, downgrade back to 2003.
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I'm using 2003se (rollback wm5->2003), because found some strange problems with baniachek's wm5 bluetooth profiles. ...
all the gory details ....
hi dasboot!
could you please describe those "strange problems"?
btw: does anyone know, if connecting to wlan routers works better with wm2005? as u can read in my other thread HERE, i have serious issues to solve here...
keep on posting!
krz
im rollbacked too.WM5 is nice looking..but for BA useless.
i found that WM3 work much better on it-and more important-the battery time:
wm5=max 8 hours,with mp3 6h
wm3=up to 16h with mp3.normal use 24/36h (older BA )
i use wlan only sometimes on hotspots-and only for e-mails.not a important criteria for me.
but,damn it..i would try out WM6 on it.suddenly it is unable to convert it to BA.
WM5 is not a software, it is one huge BAG!
wm5 is really good and I won't come back to wm2003. I have the R2 by baniaczeck and it works to me like a charm! I advice you to upgrade to wm5
Hello. I've been following the Kaiser thread ever since I heard about it, and with the same anxiety of the owners of that phone i've been waiting for the miraculous drivers to appear. I'm looking forward to upgrade from a HP hx2750, to a new pda with phone. After a few research I concluded that the pdas the fit my need are the HTC p3600 (trinity), p3600i (500Mhz processor version) , the Tytn 2 Kaiser or the coming Eten X800 and the I-mate 8502 which in my option is the best off all those but I doubt it will be available sooner than April 2008.
From all those the p3600i and tytn 2 seemed more appealing. So I have to pick between the p3600i (since i'd rather have more ROM and processor speed though paying a bit more) or the kaiser, tytn 2.
I like to play videos, take pictures and once in awhile play a few games, but also have a decent scrolling and browsing speed since I'm used to the hx2750 wm6, BUT, i'm not sure if the drivers will ever be made or work properly... in other words I wouldn't like to have a crippled phone as expensive as that kaiser(not getting contract!). The p3600i looks great is not so buggy but doesn't have keyboard and this is something I always missed in the hx2750. Neither I know if the keyboard in the end is really that useful cause it looks very hard to type in...
I heard better things from htc in past times but now they don't seem to care for consumers opinion, so that's another question. I dunno if it's better to get the kaiser and wait for drivers or get something more solid. I heard new windows 6.1 will come out soon, so might be a help or push to fix problem. I prefer more the kaiser but the p3600i is impressive too...
So i'm here asking for whoever wants to share its opinion... What's the best buy p3600i or tytn2 (kaiser, tilt)?
Is htc giving up the kaiser for real?(no more drivers, no more production of that model? And does the p3600i as any issue too?
P.S:I really refer to the p3600i not the updated p3600(trinity)
Thanks in advance...
there's great difference:
p3600i is 1 year older.
But if You are happy with USB1.1, 64MB RAM, no qwerty-keyboard (npt really nessecary), miniSD (not microSD), 1,9 MP camera. Then You will get 1500mAh Li-ion battery instead of 1350 and InfraRed port and a 500Mhz processor instead of a 400Mhz.
Compare:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=820&id2=733
I don't really see the difference between the microsd and minisd (size?), the difference between the 128MB and 64MB ram dunno if it's highly noticeable but seems that the p3600i might compensate it with proper video playback and proper rendering... 500Hz or 400Hz processor ... still doesn't tell me too much cause in the end the difference in RAM can minimize it (i think, I didn't or cannot benchmark both devices)? Neither regarding the 2MP or the 3MP camera.
The longer battery life, and less buggy performance are the good side of the p3600i ... but still seems a hard decision to make and the keyboard looks handy to write mails or editing text... Would be cool if someone who had both devices gave an opinion about it
At first i have p3600i then i buy the tytnII but when i use the tytn II with the room (schap's,orginal,dutty's) i change the tytnII with P3600i
1- the camera in tytnii is not realy work fine means the picture is no cleare
2- i see the tuch screen don't have good recognize and sensity
3- i find the best speed in the p3600i
4- battery life in p3600i is very gooood
for the memory i use the micro HC4GB with the convertor to mini and it is work gooood
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sorry for my bad english
Got a TYTN 2
hewa said:
At first i have p3600i then i buy the tytnII but when i use the tytn II with the room (schap's,orginal,dutty's) i change the tytnII with P3600i
1- the camera in tytnii is not realy work fine means the picture is no cleare
2- i see the tuch screen don't have good recognize and sensity
3- i find the best speed in the p3600i
4- battery life in p3600i is very gooood
for the memory i use the micro HC4GB with the convertor to mini and it is work gooood
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sorry for my bad english
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Well in the end I got the tytn mainly cause of the keyboard! I sure miss the 624MHz processor of the HP 2750 and the 3'5 inch screen smoothness but now I got stick with this one. I found weird that such a high end product performs so bad but the only thing I would ask for would be a smoth scroll in general...
Do flash your TyTn II with a new rom.
Believe me, it really gets better.
I've got the dutty rom, and i've got no compaints about scroll speeds .
I'm very happy with my device now!
Problem with custom ROMS
coolhead said:
Do flash your TyTn II with a new rom.
Believe me, it really gets better.
I've got the dutty rom, and i've got no compaints about scroll speeds .
I'm very happy with my device now!
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Well I would... but the thing I don't like about those cooked roms is that they bring extra stuff I would discard. There's no need for extra software since that I have. I would like to find a rom that improves performance and updates HTC software without adding other stuff... For example the 4PDA rom I have on the hx2750 just has windows mobile without extras which is ver good since I can decide what to install and save space like this... after in a pda every mega counts!
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Well I would... but the thing I don't like about those cooked roms is that they bring extra stuff I would discard. There's no need for extra software since that I have. I would like to find a rom that improves performance and updates HTC software without adding other stuff... For example the 4PDA rom I have on the hx2750 just has windows mobile without extras which is ver good since I can decide what to install and save space like this... after in a pda every mega counts!
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u may check the new tnt rom, I think there is a lite version with just a few apps.
This is where it all began, a rumour.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=217871&highlight=himalaya
No more than 5 years back...
and now..We are running Windows Mobile 6.1
for a device for which WM2003SE wasent even officially released
Salute to Himalaya's ( i mean the deice )
Not only 6.1 but with a choice of touch and cube interfaces and programs.
I'm sorry for all those people who just buy an expensive WM6.x device, who simply use it with the standard software, who still constantly need their stylus and who will never find out what they really bought.
I pitty those who still run WM2003 much more...
well....i still got two himalaya
hmmm 2 Hima..thanks to that theif i havent a single
Ather, watch your language in the presence of a lady and a moderator! Please replace that word? BTW I don't know what happened to your Hima?
lol im sorry....edited my post me lady
to me an xda 2 is very cool.
it's my first touchscreen based windows mobile phone.
my first windows mobile phone was a samsung sgh-i300 (I still own it but I don't know where it is, I think on my desktop somewhere)
I came from my first mobile phone for about 10 years to my second one, 4 years later, a sharp... and 2 years later it was a nokia n-gage qd. then half a year later a nokia 9300.. then a nokia n90. then my windows mobile based samsung, half a year later my Sony Ericsson W 810i (don't know why SOny, it was very important to get a new handy soon, because my Samsung was broken at the Samsung Service). Then, just before 2 months, I got my XDA II !!!
I love it. Of course, no hardware-keyboard, no good sound, giant and fat (thats kinda good for me with my big hands )... The screen isn't very bright , but its big. Is it 3 or 3.5" ? Dont know, but it's enough
Thats my story how I came to this xda2. And to me it's like a new device (I mean those Omap CPUs are just the half of this cpu, ram and rom are just okay... sd slot is very good because cheap) so I think it is one of the oldest BUT BEST handhelds ...
hmm if i stated my device history here..i think 2 posts would be enuf
any way yes the xda2 has 3.5" screen..as for the keyboard try using resco full screen kyboard, Touchpal..
u also forgot the camera quality
long live himalaya
ive been using my himalaya for over 2 yrs now, ive seen lot of new pda coming in and coming out, but the style and the functionality of hima can never be beaten, 400 mhz, upgradeable up to 6.5? who knows, by the end of the year, its gonna be upgradeable to windows 7? hahahaha we wish!
unbeatable himalaya
i've bought this at august 2k8.
very satisfied...i choose himalaya based to advice from little brother of XOJ(indonesian ppc community) moderator, he used BA(the legend coz it's the first BA which used 1st HELMI_C wm6(HELMI cooked on that device))&MPX200, and that made me unpatience to have ppc, coz my budget is too low so i decide to bought himalaya for my first ppc and i've never dissapointed.
old hardware but newest software
thanx to all himalaya master who keep himalaya updated
有り難うございます.
(mean thank you in japanese)
happy with himalaya
my 5 hima's working well with thestuf i get here.
he athar you must live in the netherlands there are anough hima's.
but go one whit the job and make the hima life for ever.
regards,
Chris
Indeed, Himalaya is now limited edition. Take care your Hima well cuz there is not going to be a new one for a replacement. I'm finding good condition Hima with all equipments and box as well; I only found good condition BA.
Anyway, cheers Himalaya users.
Himalaya is great device have ever built from HTC and only could compare with his successor Blue Angel as well which running smoothly from WM2003 until WM6.5, perhaps MS or HTC also never imagine that this device still exist even they always create their new OS or device. Easy come but difficult to let it go...that's Himalaya.
he athar you must live in the netherlands there are anough hima's
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LOL
Indeed, Himalaya is now limited edition
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yup you got that right, they are very limited these days ;/
Unfortunately our hima is showing its age. More and more are getting broken everyday and difficult to find parts. I gave up the ghost on mine (which is actually my wife's who got a newer pda with WM6) about 3 years ago because of a broken charging/usb slot. Can't find anyone who can fix it since the official support shop closed down before it broke. Was just playing with it with its old WM2003 until I found a group of hima users here and I was directed to someone who has the parts and skills to repair it. After that i read through xda-developers and now I have a WM6.5 powered device! How cool is that? Better than my wife's WM6! My only regret is that back then It was easy to find 2nd hand units at low price but never paid attention to it. now I'm trying to find them and they're all gone. Pity.
What I like most about it? The size of the screen. My eyesight is not exactly what it used to be and having that large screen really helps!
Hei..I think it's a good news...
there are a lot of 2nd himalaya @Indonesia,,
and there is 1 shop i've found who claimed can fix the broken usb/pin from himalaya and they said it'll change with the original part of himalaya.
himalaya
hi
Indeed it's impressive to see WM6.5 run smooth on this device, but I wonder what is the advantage of the himalaya over the alpine, on the paper alpine is more powerfull not ? (or I've missed something). and not WM5 or 6 capable ?
Recently i've tryied a game (krally) on the diamond !!! and the speed difference is incredible the same game on himalaya (sun_dream 6.5) is a LOT smoother and faster (I think a vga screen for this size is very useless)
So I am very happy with himalaya thanks to the comunity to keep it alive !!!
i thought i would give up my himalaya, after all, its heavy, its big, the camera is no good, plus my usb connector pins are broken. luckily i was able to upgrade to wm 6.1 before the pins broke.
just before i was gonna give up my old himalaya, i found something that made me keep it. opera mini. although we could have our choice of browsers for this device, opera mini allowed me to use my hima large screen, touch pad to the fullest, i need not say that im experiencing unlimited internet on less than 10pesos prepaid load. thats 25c US cents for limitless surfing.
i may edit this post later but even though i had to buy a separate batt charger for me hima and 2 extra batts, i still love my hima.
Being a user of HTC touch that just died... :-( I am looking for my next Phone.
I have 24 hours to decide if I shall buy the Diamond or not. You are the best people to suggest as you are the current users...
I had a look at the diamond Pro but just too large and heavy for my needs
Your Suggestions will be highly apreciated. Also If you can recommend a good trusted online supplier in Europe that would be great too!!!
George the Greek
well if you liked Touch....you will definitely love Diamond (if u don't need hardware keyboard )
if u can afford it, get a Touch HD
If Touch Pro is too big for you, Touch HD is even bigger.
When it comes to size, you can't go worng with Touch Diamond. It is the size of a pager. I have bought a slim case for Diamond that I can wear on my belt. Loving it.
get a diamond
flash with a cooked rom...and your good to go
look here...just brought a item from them..ultra fast and great company
here is a start point for a diamond for you
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/16495.htm
if you take a diamond you MUST cook a newer rom, the original one could be a bit outdated & so... disappointing
Thanks but they seem to send only in UK .... I am currently in Malta.
:-(
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flash with a cooked rom...and your good to go
look here...just brought a item from them..ultra fast and great company
here is a start point for a diamond for you
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/16495.htm
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dont' worry bro... you can buy trought a good (direct) italian importer:
http://www.italianaimportazione.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=76
now they sell the diamond at 398€
bye,
davide
I bought the diamond 2 days ago...
If you want to install tools and go online with it... forget it! it's really slow!!
I prefer my old N81... much better!
And Windows Mobile... slow slow slow and windows-like (had to make 2 hard resets so far)
I'm thinking to give it bake and buy a N96...
not possible... with a light & recent rom you can reach the same performance as an iphone (I have a fellow with it)
for the navigation speed, if you go online only with umts, you have to increase some parameters in your registry, because they have a middle level values to work also with gprs connections
I saw the n96 the past weekend in a shop, I played a bit... very annoying, with a windows mobile even if it isn't perfect possibilities are undefined
Anymore feedback....??
Sounds like a 50 % Yes and 50% No so far... :-(
baisically, You do want to get a Diamond, as long as you dont ming playing with it to get it setup right.
If you havent had a windows mobile phone before, you wont notice the difference, its only people that have had a more baisic windows mobile phone before, with less feastures/graphics that say it is slow. because, comparatively it is.
Buy one, stick with standard for a while, then Flash a new ROM radio once you know your way around it and are comfortable with Hard SPL etc.
Thanks mugglesquop! I am pretty confident with upgrading Roms, SPLS etc ... you see being an owner of HTC touch had to do plenty of these upgrades
thanks once more.
WOuld you reccomend any decent europena online shop at good prices?
Handtec are pretty good, thats where i got mine.
I even managed to return it after it developed some problems...
these things do require work to get the best out of them but once that's done, boy do they shine . i have had mine for just over a month and am still on a stock ROM but i have tweaked it so much and can't stop touching it .
Best phone i ever had.
I bought htc and I sold it after a week, i thought that is slow etc etc, when i checked another pones didn't liked none of them so i decided to buy again HTC Diamond, when u get familiar with it after a month nobody will change it with any another phon just to remember you should not install to many applications because than will work slow like windows xp or similar.
regards
usually, as long as you install to Internal Storage (as opposed to memory) and you remember to properly shut programs (not minimise), you can have loads installed, i have! still runs very quick.
The device can do nearly anything you wish (as you are aware) and is nice and compact...you can even carry it in a shirt pocket
Of course you have to update your ROM (which you said you can and will do...) which is a must
However,...there is a cost of course to having such a light-weight device...power!!
If your prepared tocharge your device on a daily basis your good to go! You will also find the GPS frustrating...it works, but quite often you have put it in a circle of candles and pray for connections
All in all, I would recommend purchase.....however I'm looking forward to the "NEW" Diamond II when its dreamt up.....you know.... bug free
never had a problem with GPS...
I have my diamond for almost a year now at first I bought a European diamond that does not work on the 3g network in my country (Colombia) then y had the chance to change it for the us version that support this network and with the help of all of you in xda developers I think that my phone is like a dream.
But in a Spanish forum that I also read (http://www.laneros.com/showthread.php?p=2690580#post2690580) the people say that the diamond is a piece of crap compared to the Samsung omnia or even the htc cruise.
It refer to the gps lag the all we know and is related to the qualcomm cpu. And the ram that is only 192mb that shares 64 mb with the 3d driver so left less that the ram that could have an older phone, and with the TF3D, the phone is too slow…
What do you think is the omnia much better phone that our diamond.
I read that because the screen with 4 times more resolution the diamond makes 4 x more operations or some thing la that. What do you think? I would like to answer this other forum but I have no technical information to contradict his theory.
I think all that matters is if you like it.
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I think all that matters is if you like it.
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i like it
Dont no if diamond is the best phone, but i just love it. Love the small size and I have everything I want in a phone in my shirt pocket, so from that point of view i love it (dont want huge brick in my pocket).
Must ask how you can have used your diamond for a year? didnt diamond came out in June/2008?
My Diamond isnt so slow with the new 2.03 rom. Htc has atleast tried to improve it, that you cant say with Cruise= very nice phone too but when it came out it had a old wm6 rom and from my point of view the wm6.1 update came too late..But im very interested in omnia too but I think i wait for the next version with the better screen, should be released later this year or I wait for the phone that should replace diamond, that can be a good one.
Hope htc learn a lession with Diamond and dont release a phone too soon, which was the case with Diamond. For now im satisfide with diamond and its a good phone
it is a diamond
Test with 2.03
Hi,
I update to 2.03 my mobile from tre.se with some "hacks" because swedish phone.
I think 2.03 is better and now my phone is quicker.
Thx omaga for the tip
B.R
Henrik
omaga said:
Dont no if diamond is the best phone, but i just love it. Love the small size and I have everything I want in a phone in my shirt pocket, so from that point of view i love it (dont want huge brick in my pocket).
Must ask how you can have used your diamond for a year? didnt diamond came out in June/2008?
My Diamond isnt so slow with the new 2.03 rom. Htc has atleast tried to improve it, that you cant say with Cruise= very nice phone too but when it came out it had a old wm6 rom and from my point of view the wm6.1 update came too late..But im very interested in omnia too but I think i wait for the next version with the better screen, should be released later this year or I wait for the phone that should replace diamond, that can be a good one.
Hope htc learn a lession with Diamond and dont release a phone too soon, which was the case with Diamond. For now im satisfide with diamond and its a good phone
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one of my mates has an omnia and he always asking to play with my diamond, so i cant be that much better lol
2.03
Hi,
My Diamond is quicker now with 2.03.
If you think that your diamond is to slow try 2.03
omnia : bigger storage , yes . louder sound , yes .better camera and flash , yes . much better battery life , yes .
but when i decided to choose between omnia and diamond , i hold them both in my hands and bought diamond although they both cost the same in that time (now diamond costs more in my country.libya)
so why i chose diamond , i don't know but loved it more
The Diamond is slow, has rubbish camera, no memory card slot, laggy GPS, sloppy music playback and terrible battery life. It's the best freckin' phone I've owned I just love it, with all the great work that everyone does on XDA developers, it's like the phone is constantly evolving. The Diamond I'm using today is nothing like the Diamond that was delivered to me, sure sometimes it makes me mad as hell but then it does make me smile. With every other phone I've owned I was always waiting for the next new model or version, with my Diamond I just wait to see what else it can do
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The Diamond is slow, has rubbish camera, no memory card slot, laggy GPS, sloppy music playback and terrible battery life. It's the best freckin' phone I've owned I just love it, with all the great work that everyone does on XDA developers, it's like the phone is constantly evolving. The Diamond I'm using today is nothing like the Diamond that was delivered to me, sure sometimes it makes me mad as hell but then it does make me smile. With every other phone I've owned I was always waiting for the next new model or version, with my Diamond I just wait to see what else it can do
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I love how you turned it around regarding your comment here xavierdemon....Yes it does have it's faults but you couldn't have said it better, XDA developers create the essence of why we all truly believe that, "Diamonds are Forever"
At first, my battery seemed crap and the Rom to be luggish but after being exposed to this great community, the Diamond truly shines !!
Disclaimer
Hey it's all about being positive as well. No phone is perfect
xavierdemons post nails it.
isn't it the community around here, that is mostly responsible for the joy with our diamonds? i sure wouldn't have cooked rom of my like (how nice, you can choose of many!), registry-tweaks found by xda-devs, all those tipps and tricks that sum up to MY diamond which is like no other (iphones appear to me like clones - roger roger)...
it's not just the capabilities of pure hardware that make some of those devices kinda special... there were other mp3 players before the ipod, and hardware-wise htc has much more to offer than the iphone. (kinda lame i have to use apple stuff to phrase what i mean ^^)