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Hey Guys(and Gals just incase i didn't see ya ),
i gotz a prob...But b4 i start, let me say if i type alot it is to avoid you getting frustrated and me being a rEtArD and not covering all my bases on this end!!!
i upgraded my ROM on my Cingular 8125 to faria's new WM6 and otherwise it runs great. But here's the thing, All my movies are choppy i.e. i hear steady sound but all the video patches/glitches. Being the bold and steady nerved being i am(kidding) i decided to use my editing programs to shrink the files and see if that worked but to no avail. so what do i do and if possible is there a thread that i may learn from to cover any other media player problems that may arrouse?
Did you try overclocking? That may help. Also, did you try more than 1 video player? TCPMP seems to usually work better than WMP.
Yeah i tried it. Faria's rom comes with some overclock program and i tried using it but it didn't make any difference, well not much at any rate. ANd i really need to fix this as i'm kinda defending the pocket pc name(childish i know) my friend just got his Iphone and is trying to show me up after all the work i did fixing and fixing up my wizard(cing. 8125) . so i gotta get it to work! i will also try another program as well... by chance is Real Player any good? Oh yeah before i forget, is there anyway the fact i have a 2gb card be part of my problem? i read some thread on here that some PPC phones have a hard time with 'em.
Try overclocking to 247 mhz and see if that helps, anything under that probably won't make much of a difference and 247 mhz seems to be the safe speed that most people overclock to.
I've never tried real player, I've pretty much always stuck with TCPMP. Theres a setting in the options that will use a larger buffer size for movies on your SD card, you might try checking that setting and see if it helps at all. It's under options-->settings-->select page-->buffering.
Wizards don't usually have problems with 2 Gb cards that I know of, it's the 4 Gb cards that have all the problems. One other thing you might try if you have a card reader and that is to stick it in the card reader and use windows defrag on it.
The only other thing I can think of at the moment is maybe it's the format the movie is in. My best success with movies has been using divx.
One other thing that I just though of, did you try shrinking the the video size to 320 x 240 instead of it's original size? That should speed it up quite a bit.
i decided to do the tcpmp and it got better and i ran the omap to help but the video still freezes up periodically. Is that usual and if not what else can i do as i already tried compressing the vid format and defragged as you requested?
Wait...Wait... i think i got it i increased the buffer size to 29000 dunno if that's safe tell me quick. but it is working. and if this fixes it i can tell you right now that Iphone ain't got S___ on us!!!!!
Increasing the buffer size shouldn't cause any problems. I'm guessing you already know that by now though since you posted that over an hour and a half ago. Make sure when you run video that there's nothing else runnign in the background. Either using x-button or going to the memory app in settings will tell you if anything else is running and allow you to shut it down.
yeah i did. thanx 4 the help Xeno, that TCPMP fixed the prob rite up and it didn't cost $700 either. now on to finding some good programs... games esp. any suggestions???
Glad I could help. I can't help you a whole lot with the games cuz I don't have all that many. Try these links, they have tons of stuff you can download - http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php and http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ I would also suggest cLaunch - it let's you put links to your apps and games directly on your today screen and also BatteryStatus - if you don't already have it. Both you can find easily by googleing for them.
I noticed the same problem after upgrading to WM6. I haven't tried in quite awhile, so I don't know if different ROMS really make a difference or not, might have to try it to find out. I will try the buffer thing too, overclocking never really seemed to help much.
sweet
also know the speed of your sd.. i've had a cheapo $15 2gb x80 from ebay for a long time and it works flawlessly.. always use tcpmp.. I recommend a killer program called lathe.. you canfind it 'around'
http://www.omniquiti.com/store.php
well it's great you got the video smoother by increasing buffer size, but you have to realize that the iphone will always own our wizzards in terms of video performance, since their video cards are miles ahead of ours (which is why their photo browser with 3d flickering runs so seemlessly). I'd just be happy with having mediocre quality vids stream fairly smoothly on the wizzard, but I sure as hell wouldn't brag or compare it to an iphone.
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also know the speed of your sd.. i've had a cheapo $15 2gb x80 from ebay for a long time and it works flawlessly.. always use tcpmp.. I recommend a killer program called lathe.. you canfind it 'around'
http://www.omniquiti.com/store.php
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Mine is a 150x Ritek. Never had any performance issues from it. Quite the opposite, in fact, when I've put it into my card reader on my PC with an adapter.
I know that it might sound like a mindless rant, but hear me out on this one please.
There is a thread in the TyTN I section and there are entries in the wiki which suggest that different series of Herms had different problems. There also seem to be different Kaisers out there that have different hardware and have more or less lag. Unwired4 is trying to link that to the VSBenchmark score, while I hope that it can be linked to the series number.
The serial number seems to be in format of HTnnn??nnnnn XTnn where ?? are letters and n's are numbers. The wiki entry only uses the HTnnn part, and I believe that the XTnn part is probably the country or area or factory or something, but could be useful if included.
As for definitions of what is laggy and not laggy performance, which is hard to define, the following videos will be good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz1J6h4rq1U
Not laggy switching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=recxf0f4twY
Laggy switching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1rzCAmpt9s
Not laggy TomTom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4
Laggy TomTom (also not laggy TomTom on a Magician)
If you do not use TomTom, please state that. I am not sure if CoPilot has the same problems or not.
Also, please note that the issue discussed in this thread is not the lack of drivers or slow video playback. And please compare your Kaiser to the ones in videos, as it is crucial that we use some standards of measuring "lag", as it is basically measured by the rule of the thumb to build some statistics and possibly find out which series are affected by the issue. We are not trying to link the "level of happiness" to the serial number like some peopl pointed out in the "gruesome" thread, as it involves too many factors such as expectancies, value, money paid, comparison, and specific usage of the phone. Also, if you had the motherboard replaced and your device performs better now, but still has the old SN, please state the way it performed before the fix.
The SN is written under the battery, and it might also be a good idea not to show the last 5 digits of the main section of it.
I will start with the branding, my own SN, country of origin, date of purchase, presence of lag.
Updates (ordered by series number):
HT735GB
Laggy switching, laggy TomTom - HTC TyTN II (Russia, Dec07)
HT735
Possible laggy switching, non-laggy TomTom - (UK?)
HTC736GB
Laggy switching, laggy TomTom - (Netherlands, Aug07)
HT748GB
Non-laggy switching, non-laggy TomTom - o2 XDA Stellar (UK, Dec 07)
HT802
Possible laggy switching, non-laggy Garmin - o2 XDA Stellar (UK?)
Laggy switching and TomTom
HTC736GB (Netherlands) august '07
I have the switching lag, but TomTom seems to run perfectly.
Full res DivX are great too playing in the latest Coreplayer.
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I have the switching lag, but TomTom seems to run perfectly.
Full res DivX are great too playing in the latest Coreplayer.
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Which series code do you have, Bluchrome?
Yeah, I gotta get myself that latest CorePlayer too.
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I know that it might sound like a mindless rant, but hear me out on this one please.
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Well, the device I have was purchased in early December, but that was in a small city in eastern Russia, so it is most probably from some early series.
I remember your thread about the fact that your Kaiser performs fine when it comes to GUI, and it was probably the first time I realised that there are some series that are just plain slow and the ones that are more or less fast. DO you use TomTom? If you do, does it perform like the Magician, or like the Kaiser in the famous video?
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Figured I would reply to you on your own thread, and keep the topics focused!
o2 XDA Stellar
HT748GB (UK, Dec 07)
No lag on either
FWIW, I made a video of my phones performance in responce to yours. Sorry about the poor quality, but you can see the performance difference!
Mine performs more like the Magician and if you watch the thing thorugh, you can see my screen switch rate is substantially faster than yours. Hopefully from that video you can see why until I saw yours I was thinking that people were moaning over nothing and asking the question "How much quicker do you want it?!"
I'm certainly with you in thinking there is something to the build version and the fact that o2 UK held back on launching their Kaiser varient for a couple of months!
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Thanks for the input
And your Stellar really does does work better than my TyTN, so far we can assume that 735 and 736 series are faulty and 748 should be ok
A bit too early to draw conclusions though
I picked up a tytn II (kaiser) today. I charged for about 5 hours. picked up my location with seconds with tomtom. but updating is real slow!
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Thanks for the input
And your Stellar really does does work better than my TyTN, so far we can assume that 735 and 736 series are faulty and 748 should be ok
A bit too early to draw conclusions though
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HT735
Up to 1 second to orientate screen.
Tomtom no sign of the lag.
However the above is variable. Regardless of running programs, the screen rotate can vary from virtually instant to 3 seconds.
Tomtom on a rare occassion will appear to completely freeze and then jump. But I think that's likely more to do with dropping a satellite or two. Otherwise I have not had the slow re-draw or laggy behaviour (per the utube videos)
So yes, a bit too early, but worth gathering more data. Perhaps it's not the serial that's the key but qualcomm batch numbers. Then again we are talking dozens of variables here.
Mike
Tomtom on a rare occassion will appear to completely freeze and then jump. But I think that's likely more to do with dropping a satellite or two.
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Its unlikely this is the problem, I had a nokia running tom tom and no such problems. The Kaiser has a very good GPS chipset and Tom tom should cope.
I do think all the HTC plugins and and all the gimmick touch flo stuff is a large part of the problem. It looks like on mike processor usage is very high.
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HT735
Up to 1 second to orientate screen.
Tomtom no sign of the lag.
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Yep, now it seems that even the same devices within a series perform differently.
That is an interesting observation =)
My switching isn't as slow as some videos, but no where near as fast as the one you provided (running stock AT&T rom).
I haven't fully tested GPS Nav yet. I got Destinator on the way (I heard it's a pain to use, but it apparently has the best and most updated maps of Mexico )
But in general video playback, NES and SNES Emulators has its ups and downs. Sometimes running smoother and others running choppy compared to my old PXA255 / 64 RAM ipaq wm5 ppc which still lies around.
HT802
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Up to 1 second to orientate screen.
However the above is variable. Regardless of running programs, the screen rotate can vary from virtually instant to 3 seconds.
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Ditto, although I have Garmin rather than TomTom :s
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Mike, I notice you say your on the o2 network. Do you have the Stellar or an unbranded Kaiser?
Maybe you blew the HT735 theory out of the water, but the one about the Stellar being better could still be valid....
I have an O2 XDA Stellar and I've been doing a few quick tests this morning and I've come up with this.
If there are programs running in the background, the portrait-landscape switch takes about a second. Switching back to portrait takes just a bit longer (going back to portrait always seems to take longer)
However, if I close all programs beforehand, the switching from portrait to landscape is practically instant with only a slight delay switching back. It is worth noting at this point that I have the sound disabled for the screen switching.
Tomtom is smooth in both Portrait and landscape modes and a video compressed in MP4 format at 320x240 plays perfectly.
BUT, I have also noticed the intermittent audio lag problem while playing music on it (regardless of player used) and a very definite stutter in either ringtones or text/email alerts. This makes me think that perhaps that when the audio hardware is initializing to playback, it may be hogging the cpu slowing the rest of the device down which could be contributory to some of the issues noted in this forum.
I'm not suggesting that the audio bug is responsible for all of the Tytn II's issues but, in my case, it certainly looks like it's playing a part in it.
Anyone else come across this?
Slow Rendering TomTom
I think it is worth pointing out that TomTom is a lot quicker & smoother if you remove all of the POIs.
I realised this when installing it on a friends symbian phone & wondered why it was so much faster than my "powerful Windows Mobile device". I didn't put the POIs on because the MMC I was working with only had enough room for the Speed Cams.
Now I keep all of my POIs on my MicroSD in a seperate folder close to the map folder so, before I plan a journey, if I need a POI I will just copy the 2 required files into the Map folder before starting up TomTom. The difference is quite massive if you ask me.
Maybe you are already aware of this, and I apologise if this is old news, but it seems people are still having problems with lagging & I don't, so thought this might help. Granted, having all of the POIs on (or as many as it will allow you to use at any one time) is useful if you're in a hurry, but IMO you pay a high price for that convenience in lagging video rendering.
I have tried it without the Speed Cams too & it's even better, but I cant do without those warnings on there, so I can deal with a slight loss in performance for the sake of them.
Give it a go and see what you think. If this was unknown until now, I think you will be pleasantly surprised!
NOW LETS GET THESE VIDEO DRIVERS SORTED!
really really really laggy switching.
Tomtom is somewhere in between the two videos.
Mine's a UK O2 XDA Stellar with stock ROM.
HT743G0 USA AT&T Tilt
Early November 07
mild lag switching, no lag on Tomtom.
The lag is contributed to the ROM you have and how many software you've installed. The original AT&T ROM lags BIG TIME like in this video. I was pissed. Then I flashed the ROM to Alex's clean multimedia. After I flashed the ROM I was so amazed at how fast it switches. It switches the screen just as fast as this video After the flash, I started to install tons of software. So far I've intsalled about 116mb of software into the phone with 36mb free. Now the switching takes about 1-2 seconds each way. I can live with that but not no 3-5 second lag.
As for TomTom (version 6.010 US and Canada map) I dont have the lag. But when it's turning I get tearing once in a while, the same tearing during video playback.
HTC737GB
T-Mobile Vario III
Lags in everything, today, switching, TomTom (You've all seen my video!)
Today it's taking 7 seconds to rotate! :S
OK,
After a week or so with a Diamond things are finally getting turned around enough that I can appreciate it.
Please don't think this post is just one of the usual wailing complaints posts -as stated I 'm beginning to finally like the device - but somewhere there is a line between ranting that the phine is crap and worshipping the thing. I also think we need a post that can list the things that need fixing the most urgently, and any temporary workarounds for newbies (I know they are there but spread over many large posts).
The Diamond is a great phone let down by a few bugs.
However:
My battery life is now acceptable since I used the Advanced Config program (details in other threads) to disable GPRS auto-attach. This made a large diference to my battery life, and seems to be about the best thing you can do to improve the phone!
I've also updated to the wonderful custom Comm Manager to turn off 3G until I need it.
I applied the speed tweaks in the first post of this forum, which certainly helped, but was still getting slow and jerky response form TF3D, so have decided to replace TF3D with SPB Mobile Shell 2 for now, which works really well on the Diamond and is also gesture controlled (there's a free 30 day trial). (BTW, I'd LOVE someone to get the old HTC TouchFlo to work on this device as an alternative).
This is my choice, not a complaint(!), others love TF3D I know...
The built in audio player is quick to access, but way too limited feature-wise for me, so until someone can port across HTC Audiomanager I am using the free trial of Pocket Player. I've added it to my programs. This also has a built in pre-amp so I don't have to use AudioBooster (which causes the lost bass bug). (IMHO, you need some sort of pre-amp as otherwise all players are too quiet - at least for my ears which have been bashed by loud music for too long...)
Unfortunately it still skips/jerks every few songs as do all players on the Diamond - others also report this also - definitely one for HTC to look at...
Every time I use the phone I now quickly flick the volume up and down before turning it off . So far this has preveneted the dreaded lost all sound bug that other users and myself occasionally get (and I don't even use Bluetooth!). I can live with this, but it's happening to lots of users so I suspect HTC are working on it for the next update.
I'm told the memory leak is a Windows 6.1 error rather than HTC's but we will wait and see. A soft reset every morning is the best cure for now.
So, still some issues (and this is not forgiving HTC for them) but there are always problems and bugs for those who go for the first releases of software. However, what I am saying is that the phone is usable, and even enjoyable, until HTC get these issues sorted.
And I really hope some clever bod is busy working away on getting the old TouchFlo and AudioManager/Booster system working for the Diamond! A small step back perhaps, but it worked so fluidly and easily with my large fingers
Just my thoughts. A.
Did you found a way to use Pocket Player with bluetooth A2DP access?
I can't over rule ouchflo/WMP player priority to control Pocket Player from my HDH980 Sony Bluetooth headset, it always starts the integrated WMp-Touch flo player...
or , as you mentionned, you only use corded headset?
good review -points you mentionned by the way !
if you want the old touch flo try this:
http://www.touch-commander.com/
Unfortunately it still skips/jerks every few songs as do all players on the Diamond - others also report this also - definitely one for HTC to look at...
Every time I use the phone I now quickly flick the volume up and down before turning it off . So far this has preveneted the dreaded lost all sound bug that other users and myself occasionally get (and I don't even use Bluetooth!). I can live with this, but it's happening to lots of users so I suspect HTC are working on it for the next update.
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it what's in the package is not good enough (and most of the time is not) use program that are made special for yr scope.
i experienced perfect a2dp audition using corepalyer...p e r f e c t! no skipping, sophisticated equalizer, all the 9 yards i highly recommend it!
Nice post. Let's hear some more configs that make the diamond useful. EVERY htc in the past has started off as a piece of crap, and has grown to be awesome (with a few notable exceptions like the jasjam which was always a dog). I've always been SA' earliest adopter (usually buy the first or second unit in country) and as a result, face more frustratuion that later adopters, but still swear by them. Inevitably the solution lies in constructive posts like the one above.
craigiecraigie4 said:
Nice post. Let's hear some more configs that make the diamond useful. EVERY htc in the past has started off as a piece of crap, and has grown to be awesome (with a few notable exceptions like the jasjam which was always a dog). I've always been SA' earliest adopter (usually buy the first or second unit in country) and as a result, face more frustratuion that later adopters, but still swear by them. Inevitably the solution lies in constructive posts like the one above.
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I should have written the above myself.
For sure it is more challenging and rewarding to be part of the trend setters and making these crappy devices working the way they should do.
I am as much looking forward to have a Diamond which will increase its performance like my TytnII did (which now is faster in general than the Diamond)
Looking forward to contribute where I can
KukurikU said:
it what's in the package is not good enough (and most of the time is not) use program that are made special for yr scope.
i experienced perfect a2dp audition using corepalyer...p e r f e c t! no skipping, sophisticated equalizer, all the 9 yards i highly recommend it!
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It IS a much better audio player - the preamp feature is awesome, and music sounds heaps better than the built in player - BUT I've already heard a skip...
salada2k said:
It IS a much better audio player - the preamp feature is awesome, and music sounds heaps better than the built in player - BUT I've already heard a skip...
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s**t happen
KukurikU said:
s**t happen
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Good observation
How to replace TF3D with Spb Mobile Shell?
It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.
htcenrico said:
It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.
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have you updated the rom yet??????????????
So, read up and fix it. Update your ROM from the HTC E-club, or use a cooked ROM.
A PPC is not just a mobile phone.
Its working perfectly at collecting my greasy fingerprints. I've never seen any phone do it with such speed and effiency.
So at least something is working perfectly.
Some problems are fixed, but it is true that there are still other bugs that has neither a phone 20€ and that could be solved very easily (As to block the screen when we have a call...)
htcenrico said:
It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.
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It is annoying how some people join this forum just to rant.
If you have problems with TF3D, make sure you use the latest ROM 1.93 or a cooked ROM. Increase the screen sensitivity (registry hack). Or turn off TF3D like I have done, and install SPB Mobile Shell. I use Mobile Shell not because TF3D lags, but because I don't find it very practical.
The Touch Diamond is a PDA, not just a phone. If you don't like the inbuilt music player, install another one.
I dont experience any lag with my GPS using TomTom or Google Maps.
Another tip is to adjust the settings in Task Manager so that applications close when you press 'X' rather than the default minimise. Any PPC can lag if it runs out of RAM.
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It is annoying how some people join this forum just to rant.
If you have problems with TF3D, make sure you use the latest ROM 1.93 or a cooked ROM. Increase the screen sensitivity (registry hack). Or turn off TF3D like I have done, and install SPB Mobile Shell. I use Mobile Shell not because TF3D lags, but because I don't find it very practical.
The Touch Diamond is a PDA, not just a phone. If you don't like the inbuilt music player, install another one.
I dont experience any lag with my GPS using TomTom or Google Maps.
Another tip is to adjust the settings in Task Manager so that applications close when you press 'X' rather than the default minimise. Any PPC can lag if it runs out of RAM.
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Hei!I didn't offend anybody so don't you please!
Anyway, I expect the solution from HTC because they are responsible of the money I spent.
The Touch Diamond is a PDA,thanks for your explanation.So GPS and music are function of a PDA,and they simply don't work perfectly.Before posting please read the threads about GPS lag and music lag it is not something related to the software we install is so much more complicated.
If someone is not affected by this bugs,this doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.
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It's incredible to notice that a 500 Euro phone it's sold with:
-Lag in the TF3D
-Lag in the music player
-Lag in the GPS
-Lag in phone calls
It's incredible that HTC has not fixed yet these problems!!!After months!!!
I am very disappointed and feel very angry,but it looks that all I can do is sell it.
It's not acceptable that there is nothing working perfectly with the phone:UI?no,it's slow,GPS?No it's laggy,phone?No,has problems,mp3 player?No,lags randomly.
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thank you for letting us know. it was very important.
what's the drama? go sell it or start reading, learning and applying. make it better! whining is not going to help you!
my phone is running great
i have no problems now with this phone
its a good phone.....you just need to make it beter...its not hard to do
good afternoon KukurikU
Sell it and buy an iPhone
liamhere said:
i have no problems now with this phone
its a good phone.....you just need to make it beter...its not hard to do
good afternoon KukurikU
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So when you buy a car,you repair it by yourself...even if it's in guarantee period.
Risking to make the whole thing worse.
I respect your point of view.
But mine it's a question of principle,and responsability.
Not everybody has the time to (try to) repair the job that is supposed to be I don't say perfect but almost perfect.
I am not talking of minor bugs,but of the core of the PDA,the GPS!The player!The TF3D!What else i am buying it for?If it was only a phone I would buy a 30 Euro one.
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So when you buy a car,you repair it by yourself...even if it's in guarantee period.
Risking to make the whole thing worse.
I respect your point of view.
But mine it's a question of principle,and responsability.
Not everybody has the time to (try to) repair the job that is supposed to be I don't say perfect but almost perfect.
I am not talking of minor bugs,but of the core of the PDA,the GPS!The player!The TF3D!What else i am buying it for?If it was only a phone I would buy a 30 Euro one.
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Mybe HTC are not for you.
all HTC telephone needing to be "Tuned" and "tweaked" to make it work better and to unlock some "hiddens" features.ALL HTCs.
I already know that for all new htc products i could buy i must tweak and optimize to use it well.
If you post here maybe you know what i say.
1)With latest ROMS TF3D's lag its absent (or at least almost gone.surely much much faster than a nokia n73)
2)My GPS Dont Lag so i dont know.
3)my mp3 plays perfectly so i cant comprehned what are you saying.
Maybe its your fault.
Sell It and buy a 30 euro phone or an Iphone. Or Maybe an Samsung OMNIA.
Funny , why are you here if you dont want to mod your phone. Its a buyers world dude just send it back and get a box standard phone .
I would not suggest the iphone for you either as its riddled with bugs at the moment
After updated and tweaking my TD, I love it, best phone I've had. Granted it could do with a few things fixing on it but it is awesome. I don't see it as just a phone anymore, it's just so much more
I agree that HTC phones are toys need to be tuned but other phones arent perfect and you havent such a support as here in XDA-dev...
but I agree with you in one think phone for 500$ should play MP3s perfectly but many users already announced annoying lag or skip during playback and nobody figured it out yet...
Lag in TF3D? The Two ROM updates didn't fix it for you like it did for everyone else then?
Lag in MP3? check your bit rates. HTC devices have never really liked VBR files or bit rates over 128kbps. try a lower bit rate and see if this fixes it.
Lag in GPS? so far i can only find a very few people who have this issue compared to the thousands that have been sold, which leads me to believe that it is a software issue. ROM's, tweaks applied etc. can't say i have had this on either the diamond or the Touch Pro. this one needs more looking into, which is exactly what the guys here are trying to do, cos HTC can't re-create it yet.
Oh, and there's a name for people that turn up just to complain.....but i won't repeat it here in polite society.
what are you talking about??? VBR maybe but normal MP3 with constant bitrate less then 128kbps??? are you crazy did you hear something less then 128kbps bull..it...it has 528MHz processor so dont try to excuse HTC ignorants its not about bitrate or power of unit...like I wrote elsewhere on Kaiser with 400MHz processor everything was just fine so try another excuse or lie...
BTW doesnt mather VBR or constant bitrate
My Artemis, Athena, and Hermes didn't like VBR files. Not unless i installed coreplayer/TCPMP. So no I'm not crazy, a liar or HTC apologist. I'm a guy who's owned loads of these things and am trying to help.
96kbps is plenty good enough for listening to on the commute to work in the morning. lets face it, it's the same quality as on most FM radio stations and people have been listening to those for years! That's why i suggested it. it's not ideal, but maybe it will help until someone can fix the problem properly.
oh, and there's a name for people like you too......
I still get lag on MP3s even at 96kbps.
I agree that most other issues are now fixed (mainly by forum members) but the sound problem is still there (I have tried numerous ROMs up to SwiftBlades #6).
I have also owned HTC devices for along time, my previous Orbit & Orbit 2 (Touch Cruise) + Prophet all played high bitrate VBR files with no problem using numerous players. WM is generally very good at this sort of thing.
I've only ever had this problem with the Diamond, which otherwise I continue to like.
As stated in previous posts, I'm not in either the "blind adoration" or the "ranting hate" camps, but I do sympathise with those people who, like me, use it as their primary MP3 player.
If only HTC would at least tell us that they acknowledge the problem and are working on it...
but 96kbps isnt enough quality for me my diamond and in-ear headphones with great sound...as well as FM radio but which I can excuse because of many conditions like enviroment and quality of signal...
I agree that VBR can be problem also for some standalone MP3 players...
so sorry for my boom of words but it looks like youre holding brief for HTC because diamond costs so much and you re trying to be satisfied... but you have to agree with me that this MP3 playing situation is inexcusable for 500$ multimedia device...maybe its time to do something with it because new ROM is so far away I think...
Hey guys, need a bit of help...
Been using the Z a few days now, and I'm having 2 issues...
WiFi and Bluetooth won't work together at the same time, one knocks the other off whenever I'm browsing and listening to music on my Bluetooth stereo... In the ratio of about 5:1 for WiFi:Bluetooth like...
That's one issue that's a little annoying.
Another is that video playback over WiFi is broken... If I load up a video on the YouTube app, depending on video length, the video normally freezes around the 40 second mark. If I load a video up in my browser, more of the video will load, but never the full video, could freeze 3 minutes in, 5 seconds in, but never fails to freeze.
I've reverted to stock YouTube app, cleared cache, didn't solve a sausage.
I haven't gotten to the end of a single video since I bought the device.
EDIT: Above issue is most likelyan android wide YouTube issue, if the comments on Play are anything to go by.
And that's on top of the Bluetooth/WiFi clashing that I mentioned above.
Not what I expect from a quad core device with 2GB ram like! Any ideas? Faulty handset? Factory reset? Return the handset? I've never rooted or used custom firmware ;so don't really know how to go about it, open to any suggestions to get the best out of the hardware...
Thanks in advance guys.
WiFi/Bluetooth issue
Seems the YouTube issue is an android wide issue, sorry for bringing it up.
Just leaves the Bluetooth/WiFi clashing issue where they keep knocking each other off while they're both being used.