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Hope she doesn't want to send picture messages or receive them!
Iphone = no MMS. Nice job Steve!
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AllTheWay said:
...and herd of sheep grows.
Hope she doesn't want to send picture messages or receive them!
Iphone = no MMS. Nice job Steve!
Sorry just had to do it. Didn't mean to ruin your thread.
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silly iphone lovers.....horrible call quality. horrible call management. horrible messaging options. Jesus....looks like the Jesus phone forgot to be a proper phone before eveloving into the fashion cycle.
and now i leave you all with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZyYjQHcXEU&eurl=http://wmpoweruser.com/?paged=3

Haha Yeah guys its just a more basic phone for her. She doesnt need some crazy pphone that does as much as the Kaiser. She just needs a phone to talk and text one. She loved her iPhone before and was just getting the hang of things when I got rid of it and got her the Kaiser haha. But she would like to go back now anyways. To each their own guys. Its all personal preference.

well I would never buy an iPhone, I don't see why it's terrible for another person to get one, especialy if they like it and don't like the competition.
I love to tinker with my "toys"; some people want an easy out-of-the-box experience. You can't have both, so you have the winMobiles and the apples. To each his own.

Fared said:
well I would never buy an iPhone, I don't see why it's terrible for another person to get one, especialy if they like it and don't like the competition.
I love to tinker with my "toys"; some people want an easy out-of-the-box experience. You can't have both, so you have the winMobiles and the apples. To each his own.
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I completely agree with you up until 'you can't have both'. Why not? I completely believe that this is where Windows Mobile falls flat on it's face. I would expect that the vast majority of iPhones sold are due to it's looks (I know that's the only factor drawing me towards wanting one). I would therefore argue that had the Windows Mobile interface looked as nice if not nicer then they would obviously be much more appealing, to both the 'fashion' buyers, and to the kind of people that use this forum as it would encompass both functionality, the ability to be modded, and aesthetics...and the iPhone would become obsolete! So come on WM...employ some f'ing designers!! It's a no-brainer!

altho i wouldnt have one, iphone is much thinner, lighter ..
most ppl just dont do the same or expect the same from their device as we do.
i know many guys who sold their tilts for exactly the reasons above..
my tilt is bigger and heavier than my 8y/o nokia .. its an everyday heavy lug when many times i just need a simple phone and occasional web connection..
if i could, or it made any sense, i would have 2 phones.. light and industrial strength
wife has really light thin phone and a nokia n800 in her purse.
driving around, she needs web access. nokia has fast and far wifi recognition..
at least 40% of networks are open and not pw protected..
she taps in real quick, does her business and drives off..
it worx really well

Iphone not so bad
I went from an 8525 > iphone > Tilt.
Still got the iphone. After it's jailbreaked and installer is installed, you can customize it and get just about any program you want on it. It's got style, and the transitions are smooth.
I like WM better, but for its hard to down the iphone, because it's a cool and fast phone.

one major reason i bought my tilt was b/c of the GPS... TomTom is so cool..
it saved me from having to own another gadget..

The iphone with installer does have a load of programs, but what annoys me is that most of those are just eye candy rather than actually useful apps or hacks like we have under WM... Of course the interface smoothness, speed and overall comfort makes it awesome for things like web surfing, but there's so much more functionality on a Kaiser that even if I like the iphone concept, when thinking rationally I would only use it for web and to look at it.. no possible justification to have both
I too to love the Kaiser for versatility. It has managed to include all the devices I was using, last one being the GPS that was external before and that I of course never had with me when I needed it...

Does not even the new 3G iPhone do picture msgs?

Man... maybe I'm crazy but all these people are talking about the iphone's speed and reliability.. In my personal experience (a lot, I live in trendy hollywood) I hear more people saying "I HATE this piece of ****!!" more than anything else about the iphone. Just having dinner the other night this girl's iphone lagged like crazy and straight up froze for a good 20 seconds. She said "It does this all the time". Then my other buddy's tryin to show me some pictures on his iphone and he has to turn the thing in his hand like 4 times to get it to switch to landscape. So from my personal experience.. it would seem that the "reliability" of the iphone is all how it was marketed, not how it actually performs.

I'm tired of my HTC Magnum. I would consider an iPhoney in trade, just to tinker with something different.

Hey I have 1st gen iPhone in very good condition unlocked. where you located? pm me asap!

Not to mention new iPhone 3G's battery is a disaster, wont last as long as even tilt...
So you could show up at an awesome party and try to use your iBeer to impress your mates, and only to find out your beloved iPhone 3G has died on you...

ericmcintire said:
Just having dinner the other night this girl's iphone lagged like crazy and straight up froze for a good 20 seconds. She said "It does this all the time". Then my other buddy's tryin to show me some pictures on his iphone and he has to turn the thing in his hand like 4 times to get it to switch to landscape.
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I'm pretty sure those "reliability issues" are like always caused by 3rd-party programs. iPhone users (at least those I know) often have 4-5 pages of useless but funny/good for boasting programs installed, so it's not surprising one could be buggy and cause problems.
One of my friends once had an issue where his iphone wouldn't even hold a day on battery anymore. Turned out it was a program that was still eating the CPU even on standby. Uninstalled and it was fine. He never had speed issues but it can be just the same.
The same is valid on the Kaiser and other WM devices too... I had a program (A2DPToggle) that would do the same, phone never went into standby anymore as soon as the today plugin was active...
Not even talking of the PC... It's just the same on any platform. Incompatibilities/badly designed programs will always be around.

rzanology said:
silly iphone lovers.....horrible call quality. horrible call management. horrible messaging options. Jesus....looks like the Jesus phone forgot to be a proper phone before eveloving into the fashion cycle.
and now i leave you all with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZyYjQHcXEU&eurl=http://wmpoweruser.com/?paged=3
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I'm a HUGE tilt/ kaiser fan, and still don't understand what you're talking about. The iphone doesn't have poor call quality, it has great call quality. I've used one myself, and have tons of friends that have the iphone. Horrible messaging? No... it works great actually, it just lacks MMS (which should be comings hortly in an update). Oh, and lacking mms is probably just as comparable to the tilt's lack of a good dialer, or a decent camera....lol.

nimda0 said:
Oh, and lacking mms is probably just as comparable to the tilt's lack of a good dialer, or a decent camera....lol.
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Apples and oranges here. While the dialer and camera may not be up to par to most folks, the functionality is already there.
Lacking MMS is a totally different issue.

Your thread, like every other time an iPhone and a Windows phone are mentioned together, has been hijacked. It is a fact that both camps have very strong emotions and a "my phone is the only choice" attitude. This thread is not the place for that discussion. Let's get back to the purpose of the OP.
Does anyone wanna trade an iPhone for this guys Tilt?

Anyone have a new one they would trade?

How to 'WOW' a Windows Mobile User?

Hey Guys.
Long time reader. Sometimes contributer. Tried cooking my own one weekend... Failed a bunch of times, realized that there are way more talented people cooking roms that are better then mine.
My question to the community is this. What do you have, can you do with, or make your Windows Moble Phone do that will really WOW a regular windows mobile user such as myself?!
Linux/Google Android is getting close to complete and it is a new interface but it still doesn't really WOW?! Windows Mobile 7? when? where? what will THAT look like? Anyone controlling their house? lights? garage door? climate conditions? Anyone have a Kaiser that transforms into a tiny bot with a gatlling gun? I mean what does it take to really impress someone with a Kaiser?
Since the 8525 came out and even a little before (verizon 6600, 6700, 6800 & treo 700w) I have been addicted to flashing my phone to find a faster, better looking and more reliable rom. Threaded SMS, good job. Better Photo Album software, awesome. Something other then the default file explorer, pocket ie and media player, FANTASTIC! more RAM and ROM space, higher MicroSD capacity, totally cool! but I'm at the point where you just want more! It's like some addictive drug I guess.
anyone want me to be a tester?! for anything? where do i sign up?
now that i re-read this.. maybe i should have put this in the general forum...

ehr... How about you try installing that Manilla-thingy?
Wow effect kinda depends on what you're used to..
Hope you find your 'WOW!' ...and let us all know ;-) Good luck!

SlyDogJeff77 said:
Hey Guys.
Long time reader. Sometimes contributer. Tried cooking my own one weekend... Failed a bunch of times, realized that there are way more talented people cooking roms that are better then mine.
My question to the community is this. What do you have, can you do with, or make your Windows Moble Phone do that will really WOW a regular windows mobile user such as myself?!
Linux/Google Android is getting close to complete and it is a new interface but it still doesn't really WOW?! Windows Mobile 7? when? where? what will THAT look like? Anyone controlling their house? lights? garage door? climate conditions? Anyone have a Kaiser that transforms into a tiny bot with a gatlling gun? I mean what does it take to really impress someone with a Kaiser?
Since the 8525 came out and even a little before (verizon 6600, 6700, 6800 & treo 700w) I have been addicted to flashing my phone to find a faster, better looking and more reliable rom. Threaded SMS, good job. Better Photo Album software, awesome. Something other then the default file explorer, pocket ie and media player, FANTASTIC! more RAM and ROM space, higher MicroSD capacity, totally cool! but I'm at the point where you just want more! It's like some addictive drug I guess.
anyone want me to be a tester?! for anything? where do i sign up?
now that i re-read this.. maybe i should have put this in the general forum...
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i run HARET and everyone goes WOW!

here's a list of what made me go "wow!" over the years: htc home, htc cube.throttlelauncher,spb mobile shell,android,etc up until touchflo3d aka manila2d which is the last coolest thing i played with.

manilla 2d
andriod
a little program called basils smser is alot of fun, its a bomber flooder, type what message you want to send and how many times you want to send it. it also has practical uses such as voting for american idol haha i got just over 20 thousand votes in for the last finale
another program called oist allows you to remotely control your phone through txt messages
SKYFIRE! the skyfire revolution my friend is a must
the panoramic camera function is fun to play with
also their is a program that you take a picture of a buisnes card and it automatically picks everything up and fills in all the information.....
a prgram that acts as a remote for your tv.....
their is alot of stuff out their really..... with windows mobile if you can imagine it there is just about a program to do it

you know what? ...... almost everytime someone posts something different here on XDA... its makes me go WOW.....why? you ask? becuase its windows based! (meaning we can rape the [email protected]$# out of it...haha) and i love not having restrictions at all as we do with these phones in general..... so when someone ask me to get away from htc or windows based phones... i say HELLLLL NOOOO just for that reason!!!!!
ps.... if you do your research you would be able to ask for a #2 with no tomatoes if you wanted it to...... hypothetically speaking!!!!!

_RMB_ said:
you know what? ...... almost everytime someone posts something different here on XDA... its makes me go WOW.....why? you ask? becuase its windows based! (meaning we can rape the [email protected]$# out of it...haha) and i love not having restrictions at all as we do with these phones in general..... so when someone ask me to get away from htc or windows based phones... i say HELLLLL NOOOO just for that reason!!!!!
ps.... if you do your research you would be able to ask for a #2 with no tomatoes if you wanted it to...... hypothetically speaking!!!!!
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dyetheskin said:
here's a list of what made me go "wow!" over the years: htc home, htc cube.throttlelauncher,spb mobile shell,android,etc up until touchflo3d aka manila2d which is the last coolest thing i played with.
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My list is shorter:
when I got my first WM 2003 SE PocketPC for Phone Edition (or whatever that horrible name was) I expected and waited for BSOD for about a week until I finally shook my head in disbelief it didn't happen
And I'm with WinMo since - that's my one and only WOW...
@ OP
Don't be naive. It's a Windoze mini computer with a phone. The worst existing Operating System on the market, perhaps ever in the computing history. Isn't it a "WOW!" already? It's a miracle in itself that it works
And as previous poster said - that's also exactly why we all use it, don't we? To have possibility to hack, crack, f*ck and whatever else we can with it. Same as with our big computers. We use linux for daily stuff (or a Mac at worst, if youre into eyecandy limited crap), and Windozes for the apps that are handy and not avail. there. Its exactly the same with our small computers, aka PPC or Smartphones.
So, honestly, if youre into WinMo phones for some "kewl" "wow factor", youre in the wrong place, and with wrong device in your hand.
I say go get an iCrap 3G and start pleasuring it (/edit: I mean fingering it, like all those Apple nuts do) and start showing off if you're into "wow" instead of what you can do with it or use it for , and of course if you're not the last on the block to have that crappy "i" phone that consists entirely of "kewl" look but no substance at all ;-) ... because seriously, as far as "kewl factor" goes, no one beats Apple (in both uselessness and "wow" factor in the same time) and current "best looking UI" on WinMo - Manila - (notice I didn't say it is best at all, just best looking) is still not as cool as iPoo's UI (because it can NOT be - can you even imagine using i.e. Word or Excel with just touch screen and no stylus? Not to mention lack of copy'n'paste ROTFL)
And don't count on Android. As linux-based OS, it will never be as popular as cranky WinMo - because most people use Windozes and ppl stick with what they know usually. I'm sure it will be best and most stable OS out of all mobile platforms, yet it won't be more popular in the mobile world than linux is among PC users (I wish I'm wrong...)
If anything - maybe one day that old Symbian, if it still have some juice left in it, may surprise us one day with stable and "WOW'y" OS...
Just my 0.02
oh and yeah, why is it in development? Im not even sure it even fits "general", it should have been in iPhone section... oh yeah <smack myself in the head> thankfully we don't have any iPoo section

I can lock and unlock my car doors, open my car doors, roll my windows up and down, start the engine, turn it off, turn on and off the headlights and control my stereo from my WinMo's touch screen. details are to be remain in my head since it took me a year to make it possible. When I show it to people, I don't just get a "WOW" I get lots of "HOLY **** "

cproaudio yesterday.

my wow
winmobile torrent but i would like to find a program that will convert video files on the kaiser directly without the need for a comp.

cproaudio said:
I can lock and unlock my car doors, open my car doors, roll my windows up and down, start the engine, turn it off, turn on and off the headlights and control my stereo from my WinMo's touch screen. details are to be remain in my head since it took me a year to make it possible. When I show it to people, I don't just get a "WOW" I get lots of "HOLY **** "
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I always knew that the first 'K' in KITT stood for Kaiser...

iPhone

Just came across this in the HDIII thread
Laughed out loud
New 3G iPhone review
Click here

omg soooooo funny and so true haha

MOVE ASIDE GUYS LET ME DO THE REVIEW
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oops sorry didnt know the pic in the 1st post is the same
hehe even i got this pic and posted it without checking 1st post

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ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!

I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
R

rorydaredkign said:
I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
R
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Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave

This is funny stuff but have already seen it already months ago. I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)

hotrod101 said:
I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)
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Me too. It's stated to have a damn good (not a plain TFT film) screen - dunno if it's an IPS one.

DaveShaw said:
Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave
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Yes, the Apple fan boi's are an annoying bunch...but how many WM users here are just as fanatical? Just try and threaten the superiority of WM and watch the flaming begin. I'll probably get beat up and get my lunch money taken away just for mentioning this.
I have both. I'm an OS Agnostic. But many, many are not...

ather90 said:
ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!
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haha I'm with you there!
on another one of my forum's one user said:
"I'm sorry. iPhones < WinMo"
then another user replies:
"LMAO I beg to differ!!!
1.Iphone is the top selling smartphone of 08
2. 3rd Party Apps
3.most advanced touchscreen yet invented and implemented into a phone
Those are only a few reasons that they are better!
Lets hear about winmo?"
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.

sheennick123456 said:
MOVE ASIDE GUYS LET ME DO THE REVIEW
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LOL!!!!
It´s more than hilarious!!! hahaha!

mikeeey said:
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.
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well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )

Menneisyys said:
well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )
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It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.

While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?

i remember a song that sing this way
[the "apple" tree that grew for u and me. I watch the "apples" falling one-by-one.]
john lennon is the first to test apple products but also the first to see it fall.

Kraize said:
While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?
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Completly agree mate

mikeeey said:
It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.
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Absolutely agreed. the WinMo platform has had GREAT gaming potential since 2004 (the intel 2700g-based x50v). Too bad Microsoft / HTC didn't bother making the platform a viable gaming platform for games developers. This is why iPhone has blown out of the water the entire WM platform when it comes to gaming.

Well let me throw my 2-3 pence in.....
I recently purchased a iPhoney for my oldest son. And one of the rules of him having it is daddy gets to play with it....... to evaluate it of course. My original assessment of the phone from when it first came out hasn't changed. Neither platform (iPhone or WM) is better than the other. The iPhone is far better at being a "toy" and WM is far better at being a "tool". Whose hands you put either phone in determines which one will be better than the other. In my hands (where I need my phone to work like a laptop) an iPhone may be fun to play with, but it just won't cut it in the functionality I need on a daily bases. Put a WM phone in my son's or wife's hands (where all they care about is ease of use, email/texting, music/video, web surfing, games) it is far too complicated for them to ever make full use of the phone.
No doubt the iPhone is one kick ass phone for what it was designed to do. And that is to fulfill the wants of the simple minded masses with the before mentioned functions. The iPhone has the edge in those categories. Some of the things I need in a phone and the iPhone lacks:
1. No bluetooth A2DP
2. No way to explore files
3. No seperate keyboard
4. No native support for Office docs
5. No native way to shoot video
6. No MMS
7. No tethering
8. No USB memory simulation
9. No copy/paste
10. No multi tasking of apps
11. No removable battery
12. No replaceable memory card
I'm with some of the rest of you guys when it comes to iPhone fan bois/gurlz. They completely bought in to Job's "revolutionary" hype so much it makes me gag. Of course there are your WM fanners, but they are not so much the "sheeple" like the Apple lovers.

From Kaiser to iPhone : thanks to all of you !

Hello,
I decided to leave Windows Mobile : I'm tired of this old O.S. which did not really change since 1999 !!! (My first Windows Mobile device was in 1999). And I'm not patient enough to wait for Windows Mobile 7.
So I decided to sell my Kaiser and buy an iPhone. I know I'm gonna loose a few things by using the iPhone compared to Windows Mobile, but the iPhone is a lot more "finished". I'm tired of freezes, lags, using the stylus for anything I do, etc ...
So I would like to thank all of you for the help you gave me for many years now ! This forum is great, xda developers are fantastics. This is something I'm gonna miss on the iPhone.
Bye guys !

dizzy33 said:
Hello,
I decided to leave Windows Mobile : I'm tired of this old O.S. which did not really change since 1999 !!! (My first Windows Mobile device was in 1999). And I'm not patient enough to wait for Windows Mobile 7.
So I decided to sell my Kaiser and buy an iPhone. I know I'm gonna loose a few things by using the iPhone compared to Windows Mobile, but the iPhone is a lot more "finished". I'm tired of freezes, lags, using the stylus for anything I do, etc ...
So I would like to thank all of you for the help you gave me for many years now ! This forum is great, xda developers are fantastics. This is something I'm gonna miss on the iPhone.
Bye guys !
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Out of the frying pan into the fire
My wife has an iPhone, your going to need this
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=1274

i just went from iphone to kaiser. i used to have a hermes. and i actually started to miss that phone. the iphone is great. but it lacks many features. the keyboard is one thing your going to need to get used to. it took me a while. but enjoy the iphone. if u need anyhelp with it or figuring stuff out. shoot me a pm.

tbh i am more than willing to sell or trade my tilt for an 8 gb iphone. my tilt has never been dropped and has no liquid damage or any other damage what so ever. if ur interested in either a trade for and 8gb iphone 3g or interested in buying pm me an we will work out a deal.

but you still had to come by to justify your purchase? Whatever floats your boat I suppose. I have a wizard with a dutty's rom, kaiser with HDIII, 3G iphone, original iphone, and just picked up a US spec diamond in HK with stock rom still. For some strange reason I always fall back to a WinMo device. Sucks to have to hack it to tether, a2dp? lol, usefull freeware apps? lol, and it locks up more than my WinMo phones. The original iphone truly sucked, and while the 3g was a step in the right direction it still blows. My diamond with resco keyboard, tomtom, and a few other choice apps is closest I've had to perfection from a phone. Oh well, enjoy your iflop.

Windows Mobile blows no matter what you do to it. My old iPhone and particularly my current BB Bold OS are much more complete, intuitive, FAST, and more user friendly.
Microsoft needs to pull their heads our of their asses if they wish to compete in this market.
No single piece of gadgetry that I have owned pissed me off as much as my tilt.
You wont regret a single second of Windows Mobile

Jc61990 said:
i just went from iphone to kaiser. i used to have a hermes. and i actually started to miss that phone. the iphone is great. but it lacks many features. the keyboard is one thing your going to need to get used to. it took me a while. but enjoy the iphone. if u need anyhelp with it or figuring stuff out. shoot me a pm.
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The keyboard is one thing I was worried about. But I'm using the resco keyboard (iphone style), and I really like it. I have problems with the hardware keyboard of the Kaiser : double press issue, the space bar which poduce a "double-click sound", etc ... I have some difficulties to press keys fast with this keyboard. A friend of mine shown me how fast he uses the software keyboard of the iPhone (and not in landscape mode !) : he goes faster than me with my hardware keyboard...
I know I'm gonna miss many features of Windows Mobile, but it's now about 1 month I'm thinking of the iPhone, and I know what I'll miss and what I'll find.
I use windows mobile devices since "Windows CE 3.0", and until now I always wanted to stay in this world. But unfortunatly Microsoft understood too late that Windows Mobile needs a revolution, Windows Mobile 7 is announced for 2010, I can't wait so long ...
HTC did what they can to improve Windows Mobile (HTC Home, the cube, Manilla, etc ...) but behind this old style Windows Mobile is still there !
HTC also disapointed me about the hardwares : no drivers issue for the Kaiser (and I don't care about the 3D drivers, I wanted HTC to put the 2D drivers, which would make the device a lot faster in every kind of usage, including reading videos), my Kaiser is definitly too slow. I tried all the tweaks, ROM changing, etc..., but my Kaiser is still slower than my old Qtek S200... I'm also disapointed that the problem (lack of drivers) is quite still there with the touch HD ... So I definitly want to stop buying HTC devices.
So tired of HTC, tired of Microsoft : hello Apple ...
And I'll see if I can deal with the missing features of the iPhone, but I'll do my best to make my requirements fit the iPhone.
Again, thank you so much for the help you provided me for many years, thanks a lot also to the developers who made possible what HTC could not (3D drivers for exemple, even if I don't use it).
I wish you all the best for 2009.
Bye

i have found times where my iphone is actually not fast enough to keep up with the way i text/type. and just a few things you should know, the camera is horrible (no video recording, no zoom, no effects) your text is like a chat, so no Forwarding, re sending, or MMS. the only way to get a pic message is to receive it in your email. same way to send them, email only. only 1 program can be ran at a time. and the #1 thing that pissed me off was that there is no tethering via bluetooth. dont get me wrong, i loved my iphone when i got rid of my hermes. i thought it was the best thing ever, but after having it for a little over a year now. its hell. since im holding onto my iphone till my kaiser comes. ill have to see what the kaiser is all about and if i like it or not before i actually start thinking about selling my iphone.. i already got 3 PMs about people wanting it.

dizzy33 said:
Hello,
I decided to leave Windows Mobile : I'm tired of this old O.S.
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Oh man, didn't you see the latest iPhone review?
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WillardZ said:
Oh man, didn't you see the latest iPhone review?
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rofl! thats great

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Jc61990 said:
i have found times where my iphone is actually not fast enough to keep up with the way i text/type. and just a few things you should know, the camera is horrible (no video recording, no zoom, no effects) your text is like a chat, so no Forwarding, re sending, or MMS. the only way to get a pic message is to receive it in your email. same way to send them, email only. only 1 program can be ran at a time. and the #1 thing that pissed me off was that there is no tethering via bluetooth. dont get me wrong, i loved my iphone when i got rid of my hermes. i thought it was the best thing ever, but after having it for a little over a year now. its hell. since im holding onto my iphone till my kaiser comes. ill have to see what the kaiser is all about and if i like it or not before i actually start thinking about selling my iphone.. i already got 3 PMs about people wanting it.
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About the camera, if you jailbreak your iPhone, then the zoom and video recording appear ... The camera quality of the iPhone may be bad, but don't tell me that it is worse than the one of the Kaiser because I would not believe you ...
Same thing to run multiple programs at the same time : if your iPhone is Jailbroken, then you can install an app which does it very well.
Apple also said it will come with the firmware 2.3.
About the fact that you can't add a memory card, I don't care ! 16 GB is a lot more than what I need. Today I'm only using 5 GB on my Kaiser, and I have many videocasts on it (hundreeds !).
Again, as I said, I know I'll be missing things from Windows Mobile, but I took 1 month to take my decision and I really know what's positive and negative in the iPhone. And I'll do my best no to go back to Windows Mobile as this old O.S. looks like jurassic today !

dizzy33 said:
About the camera, if you jailbreak your iPhone, then the zoom and video recording appear ... The camera quality of the iPhone may be bad, but don't tell me that it is worse than the one of the Kaiser because I would not believe you ...
Same thing to run multiple programs at the same time : if your iPhone is Jailbroken, then you can install an app which does it very well.
Apple also said it will come with the firmware 2.3.
About the fact that you can't add a memory card, I don't care ! 16 GB is a lot more than what I need. Today I'm only using 5 GB on my Kaiser, and I have many videocasts on it (hundreeds !).
Again, as I said, I know I'll be missing things from Windows Mobile, but I took 1 month to take my decision and I really know what's positive and negative in the iPhone. And I'll do my best no to go back to Windows Mobile as this old O.S. looks like jurassic today !
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zoom and video don't appear on jailbreak u still need to install 2 separate apps for that.
as for camera quality
Photo taken with my old hermes: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/jc61990/IMAGE_022.jpg
Photo Taken with iphone: http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/jc61990/Car/IMG_0376.jpg (had to downsize resolution to increase the quality)

haha. thanks guys. think i just found myself a new background pic.

You know I love WP7... so I bought an HD2

[Edit: HD2 at home]
Hi! I just wanted to let you know guys that I'm moving to WP7. I love WP7 (so I made NOVA WP7 theme and the WP7 themed Apps) so it had to happen some day.
I found a xda Marketplace user who was willing to trade his HTC HD2, the phone I will always love, for my Black. We were up to do it, until my parent decided to get me an HD7 to avoid me doing a phone trading on the Internet (pretty risky).
It's not an HD2 and I won't be able to have Android on it, but it's its brother and won't make me spend hours trying new ROMs: I have to study now and can't waste my time so hard.
I will be here until I get it, and will keep the Black at least until I receive the HD7, then I will try to sell it.
I guess I won't make it to see ICS LOL (neither do you ) Hahaha sure CM9 will come soon.
Not saying good bye yet, just an "I'm leaving soon".

haha ..gud luk wid that ..

venky77 said:
haha ..gud luk wid that ..
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Something I should be aware of?

yes... windows ...

well I`ve had WP7 on my HD2 and it`s not so impressive....it`s kind of a business look and that`s all about it i`m afraid :| very minimalistic graphics in the UI....but anyway HTC are such good phone, I hope you`ll enjoy yours....I`m thinking to sell my OB and buy a Sensation XL.
wish you good luck

from android to Windows phone ??
damm drugs

spyb0y said:
well I`ve had WP7 on my HD2 and it`s not so impressive....it`s kind of a business look and that`s all about it i`m afraid :| very minimalistic graphics in the UI....but anyway HTC are such good phone, I hope you`ll enjoy yours....I`m thinking to sell my OB and buy a Sensation XL.
wish you good luck
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That's what I love. Plain simple structure. I have my ROM fully customized as WP7 since some time ago. That must be a signal haha
I'm just tired of the unstability of the Black, battery specially. Always draining with no reason, can't trust it... although I love my Black. I will keep it for a while so... I can always go back if I don't like WP7. But I think I'll love it
Thanks
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Noooooooo!!!
man!!!!....i cannot imagine that we are loosing another modder!!!!we perhaps have the most neglected forum for a phone with good hardware!!!!
and on top of this u r going!!!!BTW, me and mah dad, both are pretty "gadget" freaks.
my dad has a lumia 800 and an N9. the minimalism, speed and sleekness of the lumia beats my black hands down, but even my iphone4s feels the same(though it did cost much much much more than the lumia 800)
btw, the coolest phone i have ever seen is the N9.it's awesome
on a whole, am hurt that u are leaving .....u got a HD7 dosen't mean u HAVE to sell the BALCK. keep it man and keep modding...pleaseeeee

Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
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yeomond said:
Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
Sent from my LG-P970 using XDA App
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He can try to use a Bluetooth keyboard connected and press ctrl+alt+del

WP7 is nice. The same thing i can say with iOS but the only problem is no 3rd party keyboard. Im already 50wpm in messagease for android without using any word prediction and autocorrection.

hectorrent said:
I want burning my black... If I just had another smartphone... xD
Congrats antonio, I suppose I won't read you again at elandroidelibre xD
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Black is a great affordable smartphone. I love it, but you all know I'm a WP7 lover. In fact, I bought my second Android (Black) because 1. I love Android, 2. It was at great price at that moment and 3. WP7 didn't have Whatsapp. Now it does.
achyut said:
man!!!!....i cannot imagine that we are loosing another modder!!!!we perhaps have the most neglected forum for a phone with good hardware!!!!
and on top of this u r going!!!!BTW, me and mah dad, both are pretty "gadget" freaks.
my dad has a lumia 800 and an N9. the minimalism, speed and sleekness of the lumia beats my black hands down, but even my iphone4s feels the same(though it did cost much much much more than the lumia 800)
btw, the coolest phone i have ever seen is the N9.it's awesome
on a whole, am hurt that u are leaving .....u got a HD7 dosen't mean u HAVE to sell the BALCK. keep it man and keep modding...pleaseeeee
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Yeah, we must be on the best-devices-without-proper-development top of forums. We had knzo over all but he didn't even named himself developer if I remember well (his dedication/studies aren't informatics). It's a hobby for him, although he is great and the best we've had (@knzo, you know you are the best Black dev! )
I'm sorry I'm "leaving", but this forum has been being more dead every day, and anyway, I don't have time to mod anymore. You've seen I stopped theming and I said many times I need all my time to study now. I appreciate your words
I love the N9, but I know that if I go there, I will cry because of lack of development. WP7 isn't as expanded as Android, but at least there is a considerable community. Even HD7 has like 6 or 7 ROMs LOL! (no big changes, but anyway). And the Lumia 800 is new and apart from few bugs I've read (every phone does), I found the HD7 at great price and I don't like spending 500$ on an unlocked phone like Lumia. I can but I never liked :S
And remember, I started this thing yesterday in a opportunity to trade it for a HD2. So I'm doing this "buy first, then sell yours" thing because trading was too risky (parents said, and that's right). It's an independent kind of trading LOL and I finally decided for HD7 because HD2 would keep me testing Android, Meego, WP7,... and I would lose my study time. I guess I just need a working phone. The less it can be modded, the less time I will waste.
I'm not selling Black until I'm sure HD7 is the next step. This is what this method allows me. I don't need to sell the Black neither, but it would be pointless keeping 2 medium-high-high level smartphones that are losing value every day.
But thank you.
yeomond said:
Can you even download any file off the internet using the default browser on wp7? :/
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No idea. But if I can't install apk's from browser... what else should I be downloading at? LOL I guess I will be able to long-press a picture to save it :S Haha not the biggest problem.
BoyBawang2 said:
WP7 is nice. The same thing i can say with iOS but the only problem is no 3rd party keyboard. Im already 50wpm in messagease for android without using any word prediction and autocorrection.
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It's said that WP7 keyboard is the best/one of the bests. Actually, you should see my Android keyboard, it's a WP7-modded I made (never published). I love it LOL. Here it is:
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If you compare the picture with the real one, there are differences, although in Android I think this one looks better than any other ****ty WP7 keyboard I've ever seen for Android (IMHO)
I never liked any other Android 3rd party keyboards...

Hey! Congrats on your new possession.
Even I was thinking of buying HD7,but I went for LG OB.
Its was mere coz of the battery, HD7 has a 1230mAh battery as compared to the 1500mAh in LG OB.

The WP7 phones have a nice feel, but as i have read about all the restrictions... on earlier builds u couldn't even have an custom ringtone lol, connect to your pc only through zune etc, etc, etc, it's just not for me

zaitz said:
The WP7 phones have a nice feel, but as i have read about all the restrictions... on earlier builds u couldn't even have an custom ringtone lol, connect to your pc only through zune etc, etc, etc, it's just not for me
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Yeah I read about that but with Mango it's fixed I think. One thing I like of WP7 (apart from its beauty) is the non-fragmentation of the updates, so I hope I don't have to feel disappointed again for not having the updates
I guess I will have to get used to its closeness, just as I had an iPhone LOL

Wow, I thought I'd be the only one to have made the change hahaha xD I switched my OB for a HTC 7 Mozart. Heh, I know it's a mid-ranged windows phone, but up till now, I must say I'm enjoying the whole experience. But to be honest, I miss the days when I could come here and try all the stuff that Huexx or Aprold was developing >< Metro is good looking & as someone put it: business like I also like the way the OS is infused with messenger, facebook & twitter. A single touch and all the facebook, twitter & linked in profiles of a contact is linked together, very convenient in my point of view
And yes antonio, you are right. There is Whatsapp now and many more apps in the marketplace ^^
Though I don't own an OB now, I can't help but come back here to check things out. Any new development still excites me in a way

vmjoaquim said:
Wow, I thought I'd be the only one to have made the change hahaha xD I switched my OB for a HTC 7 Mozart. Heh, I know it's a mid-ranged windows phone, but up till now, I must say I'm enjoying the whole experience. But to be honest, I miss the days when I could come here and try all the stuff that Huexx or Aprold was developing >< Metro is good looking & as someone put it: business like I also like the way the OS is infused with messenger, facebook & twitter. A single touch and all the facebook, twitter & linked in profiles of a contact is linked together, very convenient in my point of view
And yes antonio, you are right. There is Whatsapp now and many more apps in the marketplace ^^
Though I don't own an OB now, I can't help but come back here to check things out. Any new development still excites me in a way
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Thank you! You give me pretty much peace knowing I will be happy enough. If you like it, I'll love it
I know I won't be able to make mods and theme anything I want, but on one hand, all I themed has been to make it WP7, and on the other hand, I don't have time to mod or try mods anymore. Just need something stable and closed so I don't get distracted
Is WhatsApp decent without major bugs? I just need texting, no need for complicate things like videos or location. I've read it's pretty buggy yet
Thanks for sharing your experience!

antonio1475 said:
Thank you! You give me pretty much peace knowing I will be happy enough. If you like it, I'll love it
I know I won't be able to make mods and theme anything I want, but on one hand, all I themed has been to make it WP7, and on the other hand, I don't have time to mod or try mods anymore. Just need something stable and closed so I don't get distracted
Is WhatsApp decent without major bugs? I just need texting, no need for complicate things like videos or location. I've read it's pretty buggy yet
Thanks for sharing your experience!
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No problem! I admit to be an 'avid mod tester' myself That is why I'll still recommend android to my friends. But WP7 do have mods to try out as well, just that the process is complicated. :/ So I believe it will help in getting you focused on your schoolwork xD
Yeap, it hasn't crashed once on my phone. ( I've had it for a month). Sending/Receiving texts or pictures are quick. Just fyi, location services are pretty solid as well. Videos on the web might be a bit of a hassle since flash is not supported, but since HTML5 is going to be the new standard, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
Main thing that bothers me, is getting use to the thickness of the phone. Since I've been pampered by the OB's slim chassis xD

antonio1475 said:
Black is a great affordable smartphone. I love it, but you all know I'm a WP7 lover. In fact, I bought my second Android (Black) because 1. I love Android, 2. It was at great price at that moment and 3. WP7 didn't have Whatsapp. Now it does.
Yeah, we must be on the best-devices-without-proper-development top of forums. We had knzo over all but he didn't even named himself developer if I remember well (his dedication/studies aren't informatics). It's a hobby for him, although he is great and the best we've had (@knzo, you know you are the best Black dev! )
I'm sorry I'm "leaving", but this forum has been being more dead every day, and anyway, I don't have time to mod anymore. You've seen I stopped theming and I said many times I need all my time to study now. I appreciate your words
I love the N9, but I know that if I go there, I will cry because of lack of development. WP7 isn't as expanded as Android, but at least there is a considerable community. Even HD7 has like 6 or 7 ROMs LOL! (no big changes, but anyway). And the Lumia 800 is new and apart from few bugs I've read (every phone does), I found the HD7 at great price and I don't like spending 500$ on an unlocked phone like Lumia. I can but I never liked :S
And remember, I started this thing yesterday in a opportunity to trade it for a HD2. So I'm doing this "buy first, then sell yours" thing because trading was too risky (parents said, and that's right). It's an independent kind of trading LOL and I finally decided for HD7 because HD2 would keep me testing Android, Meego, WP7,... and I would lose my study time. I guess I just need a working phone. The less it can be modded, the less time I will waste.
I'm not selling Black until I'm sure HD7 is the next step. This is what this method allows me. I don't need to sell the Black neither, but it would be pointless keeping 2 medium-high-high level smartphones that are losing value every day.
But thank you.
No idea. But if I can't install apk's from browser... what else should I be downloading at? LOL I guess I will be able to long-press a picture to save it :S Haha not the biggest problem.
It's said that WP7 keyboard is the best/one of the bests. Actually, you should see my Android keyboard, it's a WP7-modded I made (never published). I love it LOL. Here it is:
If you compare the picture with the real one, there are differences, although in Android I think this one looks better than any other ****ty WP7 keyboard I've ever seen for Android (IMHO)
I never liked any other Android 3rd party keyboards...
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could you send the keyboard to me cuz i really like it!

timvdhoorn said:
could you send the keyboard to me cuz i really like it!
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I can't... it's a paid app so I can't share , it would be warez and it isn't allowed.
Sorry