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seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
will holland win the European championship.............
we do not know what will happen in the future.
gt500 said:
seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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Interesting, but I'm positive instead of upgrading the diamond, most people will just buy the new HTC (Probably a Touch) with WM7.
WM7 will be released at the beginning of 2009. Porbably announced earlier.
It is very likely that the Touch Diamond can run wm7 without problems. But nobody can tell you now...
Since HTC is planning for a WM7 device, they will not offer WM7 as a free upgrade for the TouchDiamond. If enough people buy the touch diamond they might offer this update for some money. Else we have to hope for some good "cooking" from the developers here in the forum...
very likely based on what?
If it's as much of an overhaul as Microsoft are saying it will be, then I'd say not supported. Will probably need a better touch screen.
Rory
withouth support for hardware features like
accelorometer and multitouch it would prob
be a kinda poor experience if it does
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Good question
That's why I said: Very likely...
You might as well ask: What might WM7 change that makes it very unlikely that the Touch Diamond will not be albe to run it...
I asked HTC about the Diamond2 WM7 upgrade and they answered this:
"At the moment windows mobile 7 is unknown at this time. I can not give you the exact date when it will release. But I know that there will be a new upgrade will be available soon."
So is this good or bad?
Windows Mobile 7 has high requirements... check out http://www.intomobile.com/2009/05/12/microsoft-pink-specs-windows-mobile-7-requirements-leak.html. The Diamond's 192MB ROM isn't even close to the 512MB required. Although, when it comes out, I have a feeling that our hackers will debloat it and make it run.
But it won't be official, that's for sure.
~codeslicer
i have see on youtube many videos with diamond and Winmo7 but its very slow at this time but its work!
You will have winmo7 on your Diamond than wait its nut funny at this time
Here are 2 Videos. The first Video i think thats real its slow but the last Video is so fast i think thats a fake :S
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cv85Z2O5jk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7UZ71uQHs&feature=related
the second video is an APP runs on WM6.5 it's name is THE HOST and it is in 1.5 version now. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685928
As mentioned earlier the requirements are not close enough to W7p, and if you have run xdandroid, the performance is okay but not there yet.
I have seen W7p theme for android, I have tried it and it seems pretty cool
Examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8119626#post8119626
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864034
That first video looks amazing. Although I didn't expect WP7 to run sooo slowly.
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seems that wm7 will be released in the next 6 months?
here is the notice
http://mobilitysite.com/2008/06/android-winmo-devices-in-the-next-6-months/
my question is someone knows if it possible diamond have wm7?
i´m going to buy one diamond and it´ll be great if he can support wm7
thanks
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I think we might be able to install a windows 7 rom on Diamond altough it might not function properly because WM7 needs a lot more RAM and processing speed compared to WM6.1 and 6.5.
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
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I will work like crap.
A HTC Diamond barely manages to run a W6.5...It does run , but very slow and annoying.
Would`nt recommend going W7 on a Diamond , unless you have nerves of steel ^^
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The real question is, why would you want to run such crippled software on such nice hardware? Windows Mobile 7 is five huge steps back from real Windows Mobile.
I might also add that it has not been done. Probably won't either, because nobody wants to downgrade their handheld.
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Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Hi
Can i have wp7 IN my Diamond ?
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Nope. Nobody bothered to port it over because it would be completely pointless. Whats in it for you to downgrade anyway?
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Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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Old news We already have on some of our phones
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like that would stop us any how LOL
Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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Too bad for who? I am already running Anrly's WM6.5 on my phone, and let me tell you it rocks!
XDA the place miracles can happen
stylez said:
XDA the place miracles can happen
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..... And where is the link to this 6.5 miracle?
Nylo said:
..... And where is the link to this 6.5 miracle?
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Lol can you please look in ROM section
Nylo said:
Sorry Tilt, only the newer HTC products will getting the new upgrade.
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/new...ree-on-the-touch-diamond2-and-touch-pro2.html
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...you really thought that HTC would do that!? If you thought that you were a dreamer! They like to sell new phones and not an old phone like the Kaiser
Windows Mobile 6.5 works on QVGA?
Out of interest, are any of the devices that will 'officially' be running Windows Mobile 6.5 QVGA? From what I see, the versions of 6.5 cooked into ROMS here are tweaked to fit on the smaller 320x240 screen - but the Touch Diamond 2 and Pro 2 are both WVGA devices with an 800x460 screen resolution aren't they?
If the 'proper' version of 6.5 is designed to work on VGA devices or better only, it's not surprising that HTC aren't planning on offering upgrades to older devices that don't support the higher resolutions. Sure, it can be made to work on older handsets - but not in the way Microsoft probably envisioned for their new release...
I might be wrong and I have my asbestos "flame-proof" jacket on, so I'm ready for the backlash
Actually, Microsoft has said that it will allow official upgrades on current 6.1 devices as long as they have a 400mhz processor and 128mb ram (plus the windows start key). The Kaiser meets all of those requirements, so it is eligible for an upgrade, but that would be at the discretion of HTC/carriers. I doubt that we will ever see an official upgrade due to the age of the Kaiser, but you never know.
More importantly, though, is whether it even matters. Do we even need an official 6.5 for the Kaiser to build off of, or can we do an equal/better job with the dumped 6.5 roms already being ported to our phone? I guess that would be a question I would put to our chefs out there.
Would it really be an 'upgrade' though if HTC provided it?
If the HTC Official WWE WM 6.1 'upgrade' for the TyTN II is anything to go by, I'd run a mile from any HTC provided WM 6.5 release for the TyTN II anyway. Apart from the fact there were so many bugs in the official WM 6.1 upgrade when compared to the relatively stable WM 6.0, it's clear from HTCs continual refusal to provide full (not partial) graphics driver support for even much newer devices, that they don't learn lessons from the past (or if they do, they don't act on them).
Given the TyTN IIs age now, I suspect if there was a further upgrade to come even the apprentice programmers' time would be considered to valuable for such a task and GPS, graphics performance and things like screen flashes when coming out of standby (all things still not fixed after nearly a year since the first WM 6.1 upgrade was released) would take a very low priority. I could be proven wrong but I don't have much faith that the HTC leopard would change its spots
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...I could be proven wrong but I don't have much faith that the HTC leopard would change its spots
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Wow, HTC Leopard? I liked my original Hermes, now love my Kaiser - can't wait to try the Leopard
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I liked my original Hermes, now love my Kaiser
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I hope people don't misinterpret what I wrote, I believe the TyTN II was groundbreaking in its day and it certainly offered the right combination of features that other devices didn't have together in the one package. The problem is that there are a number of inexactitudes when comparing the actual device with all the advertising that was out for the device when first released (what I relied on for my purchase decision). Both advertiising from HTC and from Qualcomm the chip maker. Since then I've seen no indication that HTC is interested in maximising all the potential in this device to try and live up to those advertising claims and if anything their UK released ROM upgrade for my device actualy makes it worse. It's a sad state of affairs where a buggy 'upgrade' still hasn't been fixed nearly a year later and I'm fed up with sending letters to HTC which aren't listened to (not to mention the thousands of online petition signatories requesting full driver support for the embedded hardware actually on the device).
As someone who has worked as a computer technician I can tell you it is truely scandalous to release a product complete with an OS that doesn't have full driver support for embedded graphics acceleration and any full sized PC provider would not get away with it. Not only then but also the fact they haven't since come along with an update to address these concerns - hence my lack of faith in this company.
I would assume HTC's refusal to release system drivers would have to do with NDA's they signed with the various component manufacturers. I'm also relatively new to the world of XDA (but not winmo), so I would assume that this topic has been discussed to death on this site before.
@Flying Kiwi: I only had the Hermes for three weeks before I found a kickin deal on a Kaiser, but I have to agree it was a good phone. However, the upgrade to the Kaiser from the Hermes was worth the little extra I paid, if only for the gps and increased ram.
Not to get off topic, but does anyone else find Age of Empires to be incredibly addictive on a PDA?
Alright people, after some litle research, i have found out that Android currently boots on HTC Touch Cruise ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64LYnTxhj44 ). HTC Touch Cruise is using the same processor as the HTC Touch 3G, Qualcomm MSM7225. So is there a way we can port the version from Polaris to Jade ?
C'mon people, lets start a project, as i see many PDAs out there can now successfully boot Android, lets not leave out our wonderful Jade...
WE WANT ANDROID !
Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.
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Unfortunately htc touch cruise (polaris) has the msm7200 processor like the kaiser. The newer one (iolite) has the msm7225.
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hhmmmm...i see, didnt realise that there was a previous version. But c'mon, no one knows how to port android to MSM7225 ?
HTC tattoo
I am also looking for ages for some android port to the MSM 7225. Now, finally, an android device similar to the Jade is coming out before october!!
And for all the people saying 320x240 is too small for android, well, the Tattoo seems to do fine with that..
http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/08/htc-tattoo-aka-click-brings-android-sense-ui-to-all/
Now we just have to wait for someone porting that android ROM to Jade..
help?
EDIT
oh and here's already the HTC official site! http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html
At least android for msm7225
now it seems almost sure that at some time we will have the opportunity to run android in our phones.
oooh I CANT WAIT !
Definitely count me in as a tester !
Yeah, it will run on 320x240. But as far as I know most apps are designed for higher resolutions. So it won't be really useful.
It seems that HTC is releasing a new device based on the same processor as our jade, with Android and 2.8 screen, HTC Tattoo. Maybe there is still a hope on seeing a port to Jade
Hello ,
Have You news of this possibility "Android for HTC Jade"?
I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!
i really hope so too, cant wait to play around with android on it !
@StewieTux
hi
u really have a point here yes our phone isnt popular and for ur info
ppc geek does not have a forum for us and it has every other HTC phone old and new but not ours even after me asking so many time now i days i don't visit the site
so i really dought if well get android unless one of our great cooks decides to do some thing regarding the same
but count me in to test any ROM for our great jade i love this phone man
StewieTux said:
I think our phone isn't popular enough for developers to work on a port for our phone, I can't find any signs that someone is working on a port. Let's hope this changes fast!
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Yeah I'm afraid we just have to wait till the release of the tattoo , I lost hope for a quicker solution...
if it can work on gene why not jade
hi
see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692
haree said:
hi
see below link android is working on gene(my last phone was a gene it has 200Mhz proc) which is a much less powerful phone than the jade so i dont see why not for us so dont lose hope maybe wer just waiting for a smart cook to put his time and do it for us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496692
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The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
Hi,
I was browsing around and found a new HTC phone with Andriod 1.5 (yet to be launched). The phone is called HTC Tattoo. Refer to the following link:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-2932.php
The hardware of this phone is almost similar to Jade ..... Same processor and screen resolution.
Look at the comparison below:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2526&idPhone1=2932
If Andriod 1.5 is possible in that phone, I am sure it can be ported to Jade. I am just wondering about the few more hardware buttons and higher ROM.
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The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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Looking forward to test this and share my feeback
With pleasure, kindly count me on your testers list
[email protected]
hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
StewieTux said:
The problem isn't the power of the phone, it's the type of the processor and the screen resolution. However there is still hope, Android 1.6 SDK is released and supports different screen resolutions! =>> http://developer.android.com/index.html
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haree said:
hi
genes resolution is same as our jade and we have a better proc 2wice the speed is why i said if gene can run it so can our jade all we need is a cook willing to spend his time in creating one and yes im willing to test if any one makes a ROM for jade
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.
hi
buddy ur breaking my heart i really did think their will be a time when we will get to use Android now if the info u give is right them our chances look very very bleek
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We have an unsupported processor, msm7275 (or something like that) and that's different from the gene with has an already supported model.
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I'm not!!!!
Specs: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-2926.php
It does look very sexy though http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_x2-3d-spin-2926.php
dude there is a neverending thread about this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555651
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dude there is a neverending thread about this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=555651
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i tried searching for one but it doesn't let me search for less than 3 characters or whatever ("X2").... not my fault
on second thought the vids i'm seeing on youtube show it's rather fast but i'm still not convinced by prototypes.....
Not unless they pay me for taking it and after that I'm going to sell it and buy a real modern device from a company that doesn't piss on its customers.
i wouldnt buy it even if the CPU was faster
comeradealexi said:
i wouldnt buy it even if the CPU was faster
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That crossed my mind as well haha.
orelsi said:
That crossed my mind as well haha.
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lol... said by a man who praises x1 over everything else. what an epic fail...
Unless it was cheaper, I cannot justify another $650 (family center discount) for much of the same.
if X2 2nd hand price for next 6 month is $300, i'll buy it . im still in love with my X1 now
vietdoan20062006
They need improvements on not only the CPU, but also the screen (AMOLED and larger).
What a retarded topic - like if it makes any difference if the CPU is faster (it's plenty fast enough already) or if some exotic display tech could only solve the problem of being resistive (AMOLED and similarly clueless idiocies)...
...it is Windows Mobile, dumbos, THAT IS THE PROBLEM, period.
It is not slow nor badly "coded" (like if SE or HTC has much to do with WM's root timing & kernel issues), it is simply Windows Mobile ergo it SUCKS.
Better than iCrap because it has multitasking and probably still has more apps (But who cares?) but worse in almost anything else.
Better than Android in hardware etc support and has more apps but worse in anything else.
Any other way it SUCKS compared to anyone else.
Yes, that's all.
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What a retarded topic - like if it makes any difference if the CPU is faster (it's plenty fast enough already) or if some exotic display tech could only solve the problem of being resistive (AMOLED and similarly clueless idiocies)...
...it is Windows Mobile, dumbos, THAT IS THE PROBLEM, period.
It is not slow nor badly "coded" (like if SE or HTC has much to do with WM's root timing & kernel issues), it is simply Windows Mobile ergo it SUCKS.
Better than iCrap because it has multitasking and probably still has more apps (But who cares?) but worse in almost anything else.
Better than Android in hardware etc support and has more apps but worse in anything else.
Any other way it SUCKS compared to anyone else.
Yes, that's all.
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Excuse me? Better go get some brains before you make a joke of yourself on the Internetz.
1 - Having a better and faster CPU is the sole gole of both the manufacturers and the consumers. Are you kidding me? Faster CPU means, faster gameplay, movies. UI, multitasking and more. You just made the most ignorant claim in the history of the world.
The CPU is not fast enough and it is not the fault of the OS. You can tweak things only so far, after that, you need a faster CPU to take the load off.
2 - Lol wut? What has one to do with the other. AMOLED is good, because of the vivid colours and brightness.
FYI resistive is FAR, FAR superior to capacitive and if you didn't know that, you shouldn't post, only read, oh clueless one...
3 - Just because you can't handle the complexity of a certain OS, doesn't mean that the OS sucks. It mean thaat you don't have the skills and knowledge to appreciate it. WinMo is the most versatile, customizable and productive OS out there. Oh yeah, adding a "period" after your sentence doesn't magically turn it into the word of God...
Now GTFO and take your ignorance with you.
fight! fight!!!
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They need improvements on not only the CPU, but also the screen (AMOLED and larger).
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Absolutely. Even with a faster CPU it is still ugly as hell and the screen is not big enough. There are many other thing not to like as well. I wouldn't buy even if it had a faster CPU.
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u
3 - Just because you can't handle the complexity of a certain OS, doesn't mean that the OS sucks. It mean thaat you don't have the skills and knowledge to appreciate it. WinMo is the most versatile, customizable and productive OS out there. Oh yeah, adding a "period" after your sentence doesn't magically turn it into the word of God...
Now GTFO and take your ignorance with you.
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This one I have to agree!
i agree but i wont say customizable, the symbian platform is way more customizable than wm, everything on my P1 was changed, and i mean everything, and much easier to do so than on wm, but the symbian OS including the UIQ felt as though something was missing, apart from wm which is practically the same thing as windows on a comp except that its on a mobile device.
iphone os x is just as productive as wm now bcos of the developers who spend their time, you have to admit it, the iphone now is surpassing wm if it haven't, it seems as tho the wm developers have abandoned the wm platform...
i have emailed many developers about updating their apps and games for the wvga resolution and their response was nothing but bad news...
i agree this topic is useless only bcos of when it was published, why now when 6.5 is on the horizon???? ....shouldn't this be relevant when all we knew about was 6.1 which has the windows 98 appearance?
wm 6.5 in the latest builds is just as sexy as the iphone and android's gui, and the good part is that it seems to be more customizable than the two.
I wont buy X2 even they integrate 2Ghz CPU inside. There are no major improvements, i noticed only better camera and WM6.5 which you already can install to X1. Im happy with X1 now. IF i would buy new phone i would wait for something like HTC leo with QWERTY(TouchPro3 ?).
Does X2 even have G-sensor?
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i agree but i wont say customizable, the symbian platform is way more customizable than wm, everything on my P1 was changed, and i mean everything, and much easier to do so than on wm, but the symbian OS including the UIQ felt as though something was missing, apart from wm which is practically the same thing as windows on a comp except that its on a mobile device........
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I agree about most of those things. Symbian is still my second favourite OS, but I wouldn't put it on par with WinMo. It is a smartphone platform not a ppc one.
iPhail = CRAP.
matejdro said:
IF i would buy new phone i would wait for something like HTC leo with QWERTY(TouchPro3 ?).
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Oh yeah .
doministry said:
This one I have to agree!
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Yes I agree too. All Microsoft really has to do is make the buttons look larger and make the skin more modern (that is what they are doing on 6.5, but I'd rather have the 6.1 start menu as an option - at least newer builds make the 6.5 more easily customizable).
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Yes I agree too. All Microsoft really has to do is make the buttons look larger and make the skin more modern (that is what they are doing on 6.5, but I'd rather have the 6.1 start menu as an option - at least newer builds make the 6.5 more easily customizable).
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Agreed about the start menu.
Some things in 6.5 look weird or ugly to me, but as a whole I'm looking forward to it.
Anyway, I was thinking about getting a second device with another OS, just to try something else. I'll stick to WinMo for the next several years for sure, but maybe an Android or a Maemo device won't hurt anyone .
it looks extremely nice and functional.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/wm651.jpg
We don't have a hard SPL unlock yet. Once that's ready, we can cook ROMs with 6.5.1.
right after i posted this i read the other thread about how we need the unlock.
sorry about that.
Pretty sure I'm going to blow a flashing load when the unlocker comes out.
the second the unlocker is out this will be the greatest phone. its the only phone ive loved stock.
With touchflo 3d 2.6 the Imagio will be amazing. Even if it runs a little slower then the HD2. Can't wait! They need to put up some guidance on how to create a hard spl or what forum members can do to help.
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With touchflo 3d 2.6 the Imagio will be amazing. Even if it runs a little slower then the HD2. Can't wait! They need to put up some guidance on how to create a hard spl or what forum members can do to help.
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Yep.. i agree..
davidstre said:
the second the unlocker is out this will be the greatest phone. its the only phone ive loved stock.
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totally hear you, man... love it, too.. and just wait until winmo 7 comes out!! it'll finally put the iphoners in their place..
Why u guys compairing the Imagio to the touch hd 2 when it has the same specs as the original hd lol
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Why u guys compairing the Imagio to the touch hd 2 when it has the same specs as the original hd lol
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It doesn't have the same specs as the HD.
Different processor, smaller screen, more ram.
they both have 288mb ram dont they anyway im not tryna say the hd is better cuz is prob isnt, i was simply pointing owt qualcomms snapdragon chipset is guna make all our msm chipsets obsolite overnight lol
Ah **** looks like I was wrong.
They have the same amount of ram.
Site I was looking at gave me some wrong information.