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Buying nook off Craigslist

Ad says its running cm7. Anything I should look for or check to make sure I'm not getting screwed?
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Don't pay extra because it has CM7 is on it. Installing CM7 is almost trivial now days. Going back to stock can be pain, not because it's difficult but because there are so many different tutorials and its confusing.
I would say skip it and buy one so you can hack it and learn. I wouldn't hesitate if the CM7 one is a good deal. You can pick up refurbed NCs for about $200 on line. If there is an issue with a refurb BN is pretty good about replacing it.

If it works good and looks good it should be fine. Read developers posts to set up the way you want. You can even put it back to stock if you want.

Someone smarter than I can probably give more details on this but I'm not sure it's a good idea to buy it with CM7 already installed. It might seem like a time saver but when I was playing with my girlfriends NC I wiped, cleared, did a bunch of stuff and when I went back to stock it would only let me register it with the ORIGINAL email and password. To put it another way, if they did not de-register the device before installing CM7 going back to stock will be (in my experience) a real pain in the neck since you have to have that original info to clear BN's opening screens and be able to attach the device to your email / account. There might be some simple way around this but I don't recall seeing it mentioned in the threads I've read. Personally I would rather buy one that is stock so I can just go in and click de-register and know it's done rather than have someone tell me it was and not know if they remembered things accurately. I'm sure a call to BN would eventually fix it but that's not much fun.

Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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I'll give you first hand why you should be wary of Craig's list with CM7.
Here's the 'scam' that's being run - these guys get a bad credit card or a bad check or whatever and buy the nook. Or maybe they just swipe one. As soon as B&N finds out, with a report from a store or from the stolen credit card, they blacklist the device. The actual device serial number is on the receipts, so they can do this.
Now, what that means is that you can't register the NC, no matter how hard you try. B&N won't unblacklist it, even if you're the "unknowing victim" here. If you're running CM7, no big deal. But if you want to run stock, you would have issues. And that's if you can live with having stolen merchandise.
After getting rooked like this, I just ask for the device serial number. If they're legit, they should have no problems giving it to you. Then just call up B&N and tell them you're buying a used Nook and you want to make sure that it's legit. They'll be able to tell you when and where it was purchased (by store #, but you can look that up) and whether it is blacklisted or not.
I had one someone was was selling one "New in the box" for $200. It was purchased in Atlanta on Friday and on Craig's list on Tuesday, 750 miles away. I don't think they realized what I would do with the serial number, but once I saw that, I knew it was a scam - why would anyone take a $50 loss on an unopened Nook 4 days after buying it?
Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.

BTW make sure there's a sdcard. 2GB at least.

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Anyway, that's what to look for, be worried about, and how to allay your concerns, if you have any.
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I got the serial number without a fuss, called B an N, but they just gave me the run around... what number did you call? I used 1-800-the-book....
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I think the first time I had to call them I used the-book and then they gave me another number at one point, but they should have been able to help you. I had no problems at all - called 3 different times and got answers and info.

Negrito said:
Thanks for the info.
Supposed to meet up tomorrow. Hope it goes smoothly. I been trying to find one for a while, but $250 is more than I can spend right now or I'd just get a brand new one.
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Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.

skeeterpro said:
Check eBay. Using PayPal can give you some protection and save some $$ sometimes. I got one used for $190 (stock) just to play with keeping the other stable.
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Not entirely sure what the challenges would be other than power connections, Market access and possibly wifi protocols. I've read in Canada Google Apps shows different apps than here in USA so that might be applicable there. Not sure. I would definately check the power/recharge specs though. I'm sure there are other more knowledgable on this than I here who can chime in.

As we are not concerned about connecting to a Network, i dont think there should be any other issue. We are on Android, so connecting to a Market should be something easy to overcome!
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Fekish said:
i am thinking of getting one, refurbished or used, but i am worried if there would be any problems with it.... and the biggest issue is that i live in Europe!
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Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.

eneloop said:
Watch out on ebay sometimes you will find devices from european sellers for fair pricing, buy from oversea and you maybe make no advantage of the better price due custom duty
There are none other problems, get an power adapter and that's it, yeah it's true some apps are only accessable on the market with US based IP adress.
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Yes i know thanks, bought about 200 things from internet outside europe
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Caution is always needed but I've bought 4 off of craigslist. Even if cm7 is already installed you can always wipe n reinstall -assuming of course you don't need stock nook
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Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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indagroove said:
Some nookcolors have issues with screen sensitivity and registering phantom taps. I got mine at best buy and also bought the extended protection, so they will give me a new one even if I drop the device and crack the screen.
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Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Negrito said:
Wow, I remember you from ppcgeeks! I bought the nook, I like it so far... but is it just me or is CM7 really unstable? I have apps force close quite a bit.
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Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.

indagroove said:
Did you format system, data, and cache before flashing CM7, or just wipe? CM7 is quite stable for me.
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It was already flashed when I bought it. So that may be the problem. I havent had time to sit down mess with it yet. Hopefully the 2.3.4 drops this week then I'll just upgrade to that.

Malicious App or Google Play error?

I just recently noticed a strange app showing up in my list of installed apps that I didn't install. When I dug a bit deeper, it seems this has been this is happening to a lot of people. The app shows up as "Souper Android Development" and I cannot figure a way to uninstall it.
Pretty much all of the comments left for this app in Google Play are the same theme.... "I did not install this, cannot get rid of it" It seems to be effecting only Droid 3 users at the moment.
Most of my research while looking around for answers has been the same. The app originally showed up with the name "Brett Henderson" but after a day or so, it started showing up as "Souper Android Development" and nobody really knows what it is. Other apps from this developer have been recently pulled from Google.
Some are saying it is linking to a pre-installed app, and simply a Google Play bug. Many have stated they contaced either Google, or Verizon, and they are looking into it at the moment.
Any other Droid 3 users have this app showing up on their phones?
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Why does your google play look different compared to mine?
I dont have the green font and never saw "updated" just says "installed 36 "

Not sure, maybe you have a different version?
My Google Play Store is ver 3.5.15

Let me add a "me too".
I don't remember ever seeing either "Souper" or "Brett" before Google's change from Marketplace to Play Store. So, this might be related.
Regardless, Google needs to step up and address this ASAP. If it is malware or a virus, Google needs to remove it from all the phones it affected. If it is a bug, then Google needs to fix it.
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My Google Play Store is ver 3.5.15
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Mine is 3.5.15, and looks like yours.

A friend of mine with a Droid 3 just asked me about this.
She says hers is constantly trying to update and is draining the battery, anyone else experiencing this? The app in question is the Souper Android Developer.
Update: I cannot confirm this! My friend said she just got off the phone with verizon, they told her it's malicious and that they're looking in to it. I wasn't there when she called so i have no idea how the conversation went. Hopefully it's not a virus and just some glitch on google's part.

edgemaster191 said:
She says hers is constantly trying to update and is draining the battery, anyone else experiencing this? The app in question is the Souper Android Developer.
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I went to bed last night with a fully charged D3 (I unplugged it because it was fully charged). This morning my D3 was dead, with a completely drained battery.
Now, that happens to my phone every once-in-a-while (about once every 4 or 5 months). So this could be a coincidence. I guess I'll know more tomorrow morning.

Did yu try using titanium to remove yet ?
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what? mine is 3.4.7

Dri94 said:
Did yu try using titanium to remove yet ?
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It is not showing up in Titanium either...

My wife and I both have Droid 3's and this application is showing up for us as well. Neither of us installed this application.

HEMItude said:
It is not showing up in Titanium either...
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Doesn't show up in NoBloat either (though, not 100% sure if it should).

Can anyone else confirm that Verizon is pulling the Droid 3 and giving out replacements? my friend says they're giving her a DINC2 to replace the Droid 3 and that it's a virus and they're not sure how to fix it at the moment.
Anyone else try talking to big red?

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Can anyone else confirm that Verizon is pulling the Droid 3 and giving out replacements? my friend says they're giving her a DINC2 to replace the Droid 3 and that it's a virus and they're not sure how to fix it at the moment.
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If Verizon is indeed throwing up their hands already, and giving out replacements for any Droid 3 with this app, it better be a Droid 4.

WaltA said:
If Verizon is indeed throwing up their hands already, and giving out replacements for any Droid 3 with this app, it better be a Droid 4.
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Folks, it was a bug in the Play Store that was first seen in 3.5.15. It is no longer showing up in the Play Store on my phone, so it looks like Google fixed this.
The app was on the play store on the web during the last few days, at this URL:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.contacts.preloaded
(This URL is no longer responding to the app. However, all of the comments that were in the Play Store on the phone were the same on this item in the Play Store, and the developer name changed from "Brett Henderson" to "Souper Android Development" at the same time it happened on the Play Store on the phone.)
Note that the URL ends in "com.motorola.contacts.preloaded". This is the preinstalled app /system/app/Preloaded.apk (rooted users can open that file in Root Explorer and look at the "AndroidManifest.xml" file within the .apk, and the top line is:
<manifest_package="com.motorola.contacts.preloaded" versionCode="1" sharedUserId="com.motorola.contacts" versionName-"1.0">
It's not a virus - it was just a preinstalled Motorola app associated with their custom Contacts app that the Play Store 3.5.15 update was improperly reporting as an installed app.

Well, sure enough after reading on Droid-Life that Google may have taken action and remotely removed it from peoples phones, I checked my apps list and it is now gone.

Cappurnikus said:
My wife and I both have Droid 3's and this application is showing up for us as well. Neither of us installed this application.
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I don't have it but my Google Play version is 3.4.7 could it be just something new that's in the newer version?

doogald said:
Folks, it was a bug in the Play Store that was first seen in 3.5.15. It is no longer showing up in the Play Store on my phone, so it looks like Google fixed this.
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It's not a virus - it was just a preinstalled Motorola app associated with their custom Contacts app that the Play Store 3.5.15 update was improperly reporting as an installed app.
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Yep, the app is gone as of this morning.
But my version of the Play Store on my phone is still 3.5.15.

WaltA said:
Yep, the app is gone as of this morning.
But my version of the Play Store on my phone is still 3.5.15.
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Right, it was probably a database issue that came to light when 3.5.15 was added, when the "My Apps" page added the "All" page (swipe to the right) that was not there in previous versions.

doogald said:
Right, it was probably a database issue that came to light when 3.5.15 was added, when the "My Apps" page added the "All" page (swipe to the right) that was not there in previous versions.
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I am inclined to agree about it being a database issue.
Some built-in app on the Droid 3 got assigned the same place in Google's database as some app by Brett Henderson (aka Souper Android Dev). Brett might have actually been an innocent bystander to all of this.
The fix came in the database, not in our phones nor in the Play Store app itself.

[Q] How to root Asus Memo Pad 7 (me176c/me176cx) 2014 version

Hello, I just recently bought the Asus memo pad 7 and have been looking on how to root the device. This model is different from the 2013 model which is the me173x. I have the me176cx, which is Intel based. I was going to use the framaroot app but it isn't officially supported and there aren't any posts about this model since it recently came out within the last month. So I'm pretty much asking if anyone has ever rooted the device? It's on android 4.4.2 too. Thanks.

Just bought the same device, want to root too. Tried UnlockRoot, didn't work.

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Anonimust0704 said:
Hello, I just recently bought the Asus memo pad 7 and have been looking on how to root the device. This model is different from the 2013 model which is the me173x. I have the me176cx, which is Intel based. I was going to use the framaroot app but it isn't officially supported and there aren't any posts about this model since it recently came out within the last month. So I'm pretty much asking if anyone has ever rooted the device? It's on android 4.4.2 too. Thanks.
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I recently bought a Asus Memo Pad ME176cx, KitKat 4.4.2. The microSD card I bought for it is nearly useless because the OS prevents most apps from writing to the microSD. *grrrr*
I want to store dictionaries and maps on the microSD. I'll give up some security for the convenience of having more and removable storage. Google & Asus, are you listening, do you care at all?
Any workarounds I have read about require rooting.
I really want to root this thing soon.

On the 4.4 Google removed the permissions to apps write in SD.
Unfortunately, can't find any root to the device.

I'd like root for this device as well. It's not as necessary as you'd expect but I like full control of my systems and devices. Should we start a bounty?

I hope someone root this device. I need to put my apps in the sd card.

I wish you guys all the luck in busting open this device. It was a nice tablet except for being locked down. Unfortunately my solution was to return the MP7 and buy a refurb Nexus 7. If the MP7 gets root and CyanogenMod, I'll get one and give my wife the Nexus.

Don't worry guys. Like in every new tech one has to analyse and test solutions.
It's not impossible. I have the same tablet. Bought it on Staples for €160.
I believe it will be the future of tablets. judging by these antutu benchmarks:
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bravesoul said:
Don't worry guys. Like in every new tech one has to analyse and test solutions.
It's not impossible. I have the same tablet. Bought it on Staples for €160.
A root solution will be possible soon. You can always try to install Windows 8 CE on it. It's possible!
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Funny that ASUS have no details of how to install CE on it anywhere on the support site. Not that I'd go down that path anyway - throwing WinMobile on it gives you less chance of full system control than what you get from gaining root with Android...
All good, a bit of patience will get Towelroot working with the new changes to the Android kernels, and we'll be happy again...
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I have the same tablet. Bought it on Staples for €160.
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I paid AU$195 (£109) from a well-known Australian hi-fi store (that paints its stores yellow) over the weekend just gone, and from that I declare you, bravesoul, to have been ripped off...

If you would be so kind and show the guide how to install w8 ce on asus memo pad 7 (2014)?

djshotty said:
Funny that ASUS have no details of how to install CE on it anywhere on the support site. Not that I'd go down that path anyway - throwing WinMobile on it gives you less chance of full system control than what you get from gaining root with Android...
All good, a bit of patience will get Towelroot working with the new changes to the Android kernels, and we'll be happy again...
I paid AU$195 (£109) from a well-known Australian hi-fi store (that paints its stores yellow) over the weekend just gone, and from that I declare you, bravesoul, to have been ripped off...
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Why thank you djshotty but you see, Staples hasn't ripped me off. My government did. All because we have a stupid law in Portugal that whatever you buy, has an enviroment tax plus VAT plus whatever Staples ask for, plus the gas/tires i spent to get to the store equals €160. (Yes, I can add)...
I know, i know, you bought it online (i presume). But the thing is, I hate buying stuff online. Most especialy if the store is in another country. All because if something goes wrong with the delivery, you can go ask sainta for a new (in this case) tablet... That said, I don't think it was a rip off considering what I said above.

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I know, i know, you bought it online (i presume).
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You obviously only read the bit about you getting your tablet at a much higher price than I paid, yet not taking any notice of my comment that I purchased the item from a retail store, over the counter, off the shelf and in my hands immediately. JB Hi-Fi are one of Australia's biggest retailers of electronics and media (CD's, DVD's, BluRay). Enjoy the device, mate, because once we get 'root access' and rid it of all the rubbish included with the stock firmware we'll have a powerhouse for minimal outlay...

KingoRoot(http://www.kingoapp.com/)
someone tried to quest softwares x the root?
I can not xche and in order

Kingo doesn't work, or at least it didn't as of my previous post in this thread.

Also looking for a root method
I just ordered one of these myself and am hoping for a root method. I've read that sometimes Asus actually post a way to fully unlock the bootloader (eventually) on their site because with tablets there are no carriers involved and they don't care if you do this especially as it voids your warranty and basically gives them a free pass if sometime stops working later. Not sure if this will actually happen for this device but would be nice.
Otherwise, hoping some brilliant minded android dev out there figures out a way....

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I just ordered one of these myself and am hoping for a root method. I've read that sometimes Asus actually post a way to fully unlock the bootloader (eventually) on their site because with tablets there are no carriers involved and they don't care if you do this especially as it voids your warranty and basically gives them a free pass if sometime stops working later. Not sure if this will actually happen for this device but would be nice.
Otherwise, hoping some brilliant minded android dev out there figures out a way....
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Same as you, cos there's a heap of bloatware in the stock ROM that I'm hopeful of keeping away from my seven year old daughter. Not only that, but the bloatware takes away from the full RAM bandwidth and processor power, even after disabling those apps in Settings...

Just picked one up from Amazon for $135. I have every confidence that before long the geniuses at this fine forum will have this pretty little tablet rooted and kicking a** before long. With a quad core atom, yes, it will be a power house. First, the bloat ware will go away, then a month or two later Cyanogenmod will be running on it with nightly's.

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Just picked one up from Amazon for $135. I have every confidence that before long the geniuses at this fine forum will have this pretty little tablet rooted and kicking a** before long. With a quad core atom, yes, it will be a power house. First, the bloat ware will go away, then a month or two later Cyanogenmod will be running on it with nightly's.
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The Device can be rooted with RootZenFone -1.4.2r. And this is link http://d-h.st/1MK
I've tried it and it is working.
Thanks to dusty8, who brought it to our attention yesterday.

How you do it? I'm getting error on install. Package error.

Post a screenshot of the error. Press and hold Power and Volume Down at the same time to capture the screenshot.

Device owner already set before purchasing?

I think this applies to all tablet models. I did a factory reset and wiped the cache, several times in a row last night, because I got sick of a few things and wanted to run a test.
I wanted to install IceBox Apps Freezer. You don't need root, so long as you set it to be 'Device Owner' using ADB shell:
Code:
adb shell dpm set-device-owner com.catchingnow.icebox/.receiver.DPMReceiver
The app says to remove all accounts associated with the device in order for that to work. On our tablets (all models) this isn't possible. So I had to find out a way that would clear all 'device owners.' Google itself is very specific about how this is to be done: Factory reset.
Caution: If provisioning has already started, affected devices must be factory reset first.
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Since I did that, and didn't register the tablet with Amazon, Managed Provisioning shouldn't apply. However, I followed all the steps, made sure WiFi was and still is off and went into ADB and this is what I got in return:
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Trying to set device owner but device is already provisioned
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Um what? Is that even legal?

I know this can be done via security settings, but maybe doing it through ADB has a better effect. I managed to get Ice Box to be an admin using adb. That's as far as I've been able to get so far.
I've tried moving the code around and I just don't understand how to elevate it to profile owner, then hopefully to device owner.

I have found the way to provisioning, but yeah...doesn't let me setup the device. I am trying to find a way to trigger it on the next reboot.
Code:
adb shell pm enable com.android.managedprovisioning
Error: java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: attempt to change component state from pid=6012, uid=2000, package uid=32028
adb shell am start -n com.android.managedprovisioning/.DeviceOwnerProvisioningActivity
Starting: Intent { cmp=com.android.managedprovisioning/.DeviceOwnerProvisioningActivity }
That takes me to a screen with a briefcase and a spinning wheel under "Set up your device."
Oops! Couldn't set up your device. Contact your IT department.
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Amazon uses an APK to provision devices before there is even an actual owner (see attachment). You can unzip it using WinRar or 7zip or root explorer. Everything it needs to tell you you don't actually own your tablet, is right there. What the hell did we purchase then? This cracked me up a bit. AVG says its malware.
Code:
com.android.managedprovisioning

So I was looking at my XT907 for some similar items. Only one: SelfProvisioningService.apk
I did a quick Google search and kept getting hits for Cisco Services. I unzipped the apk and it's a Motorola provisioning application. Google was useless. Nothing comes up on either of these "programs/apps". The only direct hit/connection I've found so far is the AVG reference. These flushable provisions are supposed to be proprietary software and they always update them. I'll assume they don't stay the same package names for too long and change so quick and often, most go unnoticed.
Here's the answer i haven't been able to find or get...who or what is DeviceOwner? To put it into perspective: there is a random guy walking around with a kickass cell phone that can literally flash a new DeviceOwner to any electronic device within that company. Who has this information? Can they still access it and at will? Please do comment as I would rather be totally wrong and paranoid, than thinking this guy or whatever can access my tablet at will,whenever he wants and can see or get whatever he wants.
Code:
com.motorola.service.selfprovisioning
there are no permissions to write or access much of anything, except wireless capabilities. The provisioning is usually flashed to devices enmass through the Nfc or Android Beam etc. It's like tap and pay and done. And it's usually by some service technician.

so icebox can't be used in this device?

shawon11 said:
so icebox can't be used in this device?
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Only with root access unfortunately.
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Only with root access unfortunately.
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if i had root why would i use icebox. and I don't think root is ever going to come in fire HD 8.

shawon11 said:
if i had root why would i use icebox. and I don't think root is ever going to come in fire HD 8.
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There are many practical reasons to disable/freeze apps on a rooted device. And yes, securing stable root is highly unlikely on FireOS v5 builds targeting older hardware architecture (SOCs) like that used on the HD 8.

Davey126 said:
There are many practical reasons to disable/freeze apps on a rooted device. And yes, securing stable root is highly unlikely on FireOS v5 builds targeting older hardware architecture (SOCs) like that used on the HD 8.
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seriously bummed about this. fire hd 10 got root just not fire hd 7 & 8.. these things need root more than anything else.

shawon11 said:
seriously bummed about this. fire hd 10 got root just not fire hd 7 & 8.. these things need root more than anything else.
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HD 10 got root because it appears, in my opinion, Amazon threw either a badly patched or unpatched kernel into the HD 10. I don't think the dirty cow patch can be exploited on Android yet either. If so, there may not be a patch. The HD 10 can be rooted from At least 5.4.0.1 to the current build. It might be a flaw Amazon can't fix.
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shawon11 said:
seriously bummed about this. fire hd 10 got root just not fire hd 7 & 8.. these things need root more than anything else.
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HD 10 uses a newer hardware architecture and different build of FireOS. Amazon left a few doors open which will almost certainly be addressed in future releases. Accept reality and move on. In the absence of an unlocked bootloader root access is becoming increasingly rare across all hardware. Bad for tinkers; good for the overwhelming majority of Android/FireOS users who don't have a clue how to properly secure their device. Not to mention Amazon who retains near complete control over the user experience (a.k.a. ecosystem portal). Don't like it? Buy a different gizmo. Likely at a much higher price point.

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HD 10 uses a newer hardware architecture and different build of FireOS. Amazon left a few doors open which will almost certainly be addressed in future releases. Accept reality and move on. In the absence of an unlocked bootloader root access is becoming increasingly rare across all hardware. Bad for tinkers; good for the overwhelming majority of Android/FireOS users who don't have a clue how to properly secure their device. Not to mention Amazon who retains near complete control over the user experience (a.k.a. ecosystem portal). Don't like it? Buy a different gizmo. Likely at a much higher price point.
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Having mine still on 5.4.0.0 after two years, I'm one of the lucky few who can disable most of that ecosystem.
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Can I see somewhere information about the device owner? For example where the device is registered to? Can I change this information?

klausb65 said:
Can I see somewhere information about the device owner? For example where the device is registered to? Can I change this information?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/root-remove-parental-control-t3932831
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Security and Privacy concerns about "Uninstall" through icons

Greetings to all.
I'm not sure whether this should go here the Note 8 forum or into Android 7 Nougat forum (if there is such a forum here), but the Nougat I have on my Note 8 is allowing something I really cannot accept: the Uninstall function through long-pressing an app icon.
You see, I'm both a "security freak" and a "privacy freak", and I believe some of you may be able to feel what I'm saying. So I'm currently using an app locker (because I want to protect my phone in case someone snatches my Note 8 away from my hands while I'm using it so it'd surely still be unlocked during then), but this way of uninstalling apps directly bypasses the app locker and immediately uninstalls the target app. While my app locker could protect my data and info, it couldn't protect my phone from intentional attempts to wreak havoc.
So my questions are these 2:
1) Is there any way to completely disable uninstalling through all other ways except through Settings? (Because Settings can be app-locked.)
2) If the above isn't possible, is there any GOOD app locker that could lock the relevant system components to prevent any uninstalling attempt but at the same time requiring as little permissions as possible?
I wish there is a solution to this.
Thank all of you very much.

Just use a Nokia 3210?
I'm kidding. It's a phone... If you're that worried about securing it don't have anything that can compromise your fears. It's no different to a wallet or a watch. If someone wants... They'll get it.

I'm having a hard time understanding what the point of this is. If someone snatched the phone out of your hands before it was locked and walked off with it, is it going to matter if they uninstall your apps? Your phone is now stolen, so you probably won't be using it again. This is like asking if there's some way of stopping a car thief from changing the radio station presets on your stereo.

Maybe hire security guard? At least carry baseball bat or something. Of course there is Google cloud backup, Samsung cloud back up and side sync for back up to computer on top of secure folder on the phone, but you could fool everybody by buying fake Note 8 for $100, with nothing on it, while your real phone is in a bank safe.

pete4k said:
Maybe hire security guard? At least carry baseball bat or something. Of course there is Google cloud backup, Samsung cloud back up and side sync for back up to computer on top of secure folder on the phone, but you could fool everybody by buying fake Note 8 for $100, with nothing on it, while your real phone is in a bank safe.
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Or maybe the OP could install a bunch of apps they don't want and remove all the shortcuts for apps they do use. Then, if the mugger uninstalls the apps on the homescreen, they're doing the OP a favour by uninstalling apps they don't want anyway.

Move important apps to secure folder....can use iris or finger print etc for permission
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https://www.samsungknox.com/en/solutions/secure-folder
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The secure folder app can't be uninstalled. Unless you're using a rooted Note 8 and it gets stolen then that's a different story but you suggest that you're keen on security so I'm assuming your phone is not rooted, right? Whatever files you're paranoid of others getting their hands on just put them in a secure folder using the secure folder app that's already on your Note 8. If they disable it or just remove the shortcut or hide it it's not going to be accessed without your password/pin/biometric so your stuff will be safe.
Just be aware of your surrounding while you're out and about. Exercise basic self awareness and security habits to help keep you safe and your belongings safe. Good luck.

I think I didn't explain clear enough.
Well of course I do know if someone...... practically ROBS my phone from me there absolutely isn't anything I could do. What I want to protect against here isn't robbers or bad people with intention to make my phone theirs, but people whom I know and are around me who don't really want to rob or steal but just want to cause trouble.
But from the above responses I can imagine there are no the kind of solutions I'm looking for, only other ways.

Get new friends....

Voidity said:
What I want to protect against here isn't robbers or bad people with intention to make my phone theirs, but people whom I know and are around me who don't really want to rob or steal but just want to cause trouble.
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Damn, bro. Change the company you keep. That's some shady-sounding sheet right there.

Voidity said:
Greetings to all.
I'm not sure whether this should go here the Note 8 forum or into Android 7 Nougat forum (if there is such a forum here), but the Nougat I have on my Note 8 is allowing something I really cannot accept: the Uninstall function through long-pressing an app icon.
You see, I'm both a "security freak" and a "privacy freak", and I believe some of you may be able to feel what I'm saying. So I'm currently using an app locker (because I want to protect my phone in case someone snatches my Note 8 away from my hands while I'm using it so it'd surely still be unlocked during then), but this way of uninstalling apps directly bypasses the app locker and immediately uninstalls the target app. While my app locker could protect my data and info, it couldn't protect my phone from intentional attempts to wreak havoc.
So my questions are these 2:
1) Is there any way to completely disable uninstalling through all other ways except through Settings? (Because Settings can be app-locked.)
2) If the above isn't possible, is there any GOOD app locker that could lock the relevant system components to prevent any uninstalling attempt but at the same time requiring as little permissions as possible?
I wish there is a solution to this.
Thank all of you very much.
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Use Samsung Secure Folder you can put any apps you want a 2nd layer of security on in there, including any files and/or pictures.

ShrekOpher said:
Use Samsung Secure Folder you can put any apps you want a 2nd layer of security on in there, including any files and/or pictures.
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Already been mentioned. What this guy needs is new peers who respect boundaries.
......or a wicked uppercut!!

To protect my phone from everyone who is trying to take a peak at me in nothing but my buffalo briefs, I keep a picture of a naked monkey as my wallpaper...so far I have never had anyone try to steal my phone...knocking on wood right now...

Voidity said:
I think I didn't explain clear enough.
Well of course I do know if someone...... practically ROBS my phone from me there absolutely isn't anything I could do. What I want to protect against here isn't robbers or bad people with intention to make my phone theirs, but people whom I know and are around me who don't really want to rob or steal but just want to cause trouble.
But from the above responses I can imagine there are no the kind of solutions I'm looking for, only other ways.
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There are two ways to do this. An easy way and a hard way.
Hard Method
Go to Contacts
Delete all
Eject SIM card. Discard.
Get new SIM card with new number. Insert in phone.
Move somewhere else with less d*ckheads.
Easy Method
Grow a backbone.

I thank all of you for letting me know, in you all's own ways, there is no way to disable that "Uninstall". I also thank you for suggesting the use of Secure Folder. I'm already using it.
This thread is now done.