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Im getting some rather odd performance from the GPS..
I just got this thing out of the box, and know next to nothing about it.. so forgive me if this is a known issue or an easy fix..
I decided to mess with it a bit and went to "maps" and then "location" it puts me nowhere even near where I am..
so I tried "direction" and did "from my current location" to my office (4 miles away)
it cam up with sound direction, but when I started moving, it had my dot jumping all over the place. Showing me on one side of town, then 30 sec later 5 miles away..
I download an app that shows GPS status, and it shows good signal (7 satellites)
So, why is it behaving so wierd?
also, what are some other GOOD free navigation apps? I see many listed in the market, but I dont want to download them all, anyone have an opinion?
Do you have the GPS enabled in your settings?
G1 uses 2 ways to pin point your location:
1. Wireless networks (which I find never to be accurate)
2. Gps
Go to your Settings>> Security & Location
Try disabling your wireless and ONLY use GPS
Sorry but no good FREE Nav on the market yet, AndNav is still on the works for US
Wingnutt said:
also, what are some other GOOD free navigation apps? I see many listed in the market, but I dont want to download them all, anyone have an opinion?
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don't know how good it is but Nav4All i think it's called....i downloaded it this morning and i think it's a talkin nav cause you have to download the voice language you want to use. i haven't tried it yet but might be a good option
I saw TeleNav nominated as the best GPS navigation app by the Android Network. (this is their blog page where it is posted: http://blog.telenav.com/blog/2009/0...ne-vote-for-us-in-the-android-network-awards/). Should I get this service or is some other service like Google Maps available? Thanks for the help.
dmm0816 said:
don't know how good it is but Nav4All i think it's called....i downloaded it this morning and i think it's a talkin nav cause you have to download the voice language you want to use. i haven't tried it yet but might be a good option
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i use this... confusing at first but ya you can have the voice different ways. i gotta guys voice bc i have a feeling a girls voice will point me in the wrong directions...
The ONLY good nav program is copilot. All the others offload navigation to the provider's servers so require network connection and use up your data allocation - i.e. cost $$ to use.
If your location is jumping around by miles, then you are using cell tower location. It sets your position to the same position as the tower itself. GPS lock can sometimes take a long time. If the gps icon in the status bar is BLINKING or OFF, then you are definitely NOT getting a GPS position.
lbcoder said:
The ONLY good nav program is copilot. All the others offload navigation to the provider's servers so require network connection and use up your data allocation - i.e. cost $$ to use.
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if you have unlimited data, you're ok with the others. I used nav4all before i bought copilot. copilot is MUCH better, but nav4all does the job well enough.
abchiptop said:
if you have unlimited data, you're ok with the others. I used nav4all before i bought copilot. copilot is MUCH better, but nav4all does the job well enough.
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Absolutely not because you're tied in to network coverage.
Hi,
A month or two ago I downloaded a promising app off the market (sorry, can't remember the name). It used google maps and provided turn by turn directions with voice cues. After wiping I can't find the app - does anyone remember what it was called? It seemed a little slow / too big for the Dream, but was much better than the other free mapping apps on the market now. I've googled and searched the forums a few times w/o coming up with anything. Thanks.
PS if this post is out of line since the app likely violated Google Map's API licensing, sorry, it was free and I don't see the harm.
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also interested in this app
I think the app you are talking about is 1-click-direction
Hmm... it looks close, but I don't think that's it. I could have sworn it had turn by turn directions, and the interface here doesn't look familiar. It's been a few of months so I suppose I could be forgetting, but really I thought I'd tested the turn by turn. No one else remembers seeing this? This probably would have been in end of May, or maybe early June.
It might be gNaviHelper, but I can't be sure - apparently I've used it before and my free trial is up. Is it worth $9?
I don't think there is any turn by turn navigation on the market yet. ANDNav2 would be the only app that has turn by turn but thats not fully functional yet in the US. There is telenav that has turn by turn, but its not available on the market you have to go to there website to download it. I use to have it and its pretty nice but after a couple months I thought it was a waste cause my JVC unit has built in navigation. If I'm wrong on anything feel free to blast me.
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I don't think there is any turn by turn navigation on the market yet. ANDNav2 would be the only app that has turn by turn but thats not fully functional yet in the US. There is telenav that has turn by turn, but its not available on the market you have to go to there website to download it. I use to have it and its pretty nice but after a couple months I thought it was a waste cause my JVC unit has built in navigation. If I'm wrong on anything feel free to blast me.
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Yes there is turn by turn navi apps (US) on the market and have been for sometime now.
-WisePilot
-CoPilot
-1click
-Waze
The only one worth the price of admission is copilot since it doesn't require a network connection to operate.
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The only one worth the price of admission is copilot since it doesn't require a network connection to operate.
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I'm with you on that one. Additionally it's only a 1 time +/- $35.00 charge. No monthly like Telenav.
Yeah co-pilot is the way to go.
I wonder if AndNav or something similar could be ported from navit, navit builds a data file from OSM data, but it halves the size of the OSM file and does turn by turn etc.
from what i can tell, co-pilot wants to take all of the california maps, even all the maps if i wanted them (1+gb) and put them on my phone?? it says not enough memeory but how do i get tit to save all that info on the sdcard??? did it tell me not enough space cuz the sdcard didnt have 1+gb?? cuz i just i didnt have room on my sdcard either. LOL! *slaps self with large trout* hahahhaa
I have been using nav4all, it seems to be a decent app. I can say that it is actively developed. I believe the developer is working on an android interface. Here is the link to the apk.
http://www.nav4all.com/install/inst...5_1075182500&adev=Windows:windows nt&wlng=eng
renegadedj said:
from what i can tell, co-pilot wants to take all of the california maps, even all the maps if i wanted them (1+gb) and put them on my phone?? it says not enough memeory but how do i get tit to save all that info on the sdcard??? did it tell me not enough space cuz the sdcard didnt have 1+gb?? cuz i just i didnt have room on my sdcard either. LOL! *slaps self with large trout* hahahhaa
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Yes, CoPilot saves maps to your sdcard, not the phone.
tcindie said:
Yes, CoPilot saves maps to your sdcard, not the phone.
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CoPilot needs about 2GB free initially to unpack the map data. After it is unpacked, it only takes up about 1.1GB of space.
depends on the map.....
Europe takes 1.9GB
the app is well worth it!
ChrisAshton84 said:
Hi,
A month or two ago I downloaded a promising app off the market (sorry, can't remember the name). It used google maps and provided turn by turn directions with voice cues. After wiping I can't find the app - does anyone remember what it was called? It seemed a little slow / too big for the Dream, but was much better than the other free mapping apps on the market now. I've googled and searched the forums a few times w/o coming up with anything. Thanks.
PS if this post is out of line since the app likely violated Google Map's API licensing, sorry, it was free and I don't see the harm.
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what i have installed for turn by turn is nav4all on the market its FREE too. you also have an option for a nice female voice. tho the UI is actually pretty ugly and u may have to get used to it. but it well worth it for being free.
If you live in the city, it really doesn't matter which option you pick, as long as you like it.
Unfortunately, if you're in (or going to be in) an area with very little GSM coverage, co-pilot would *seem* like the best option since it doesn't need a cell signal to operate.
The problem I've had is that co-pilot loves to forget that it has been registered. Unfortunately, it won't tell you this until you're trying to shave an hour off your road trip by hopping off the interstate and going through the woods...and don't have a phone signal.
Andnav2 works pretty well in the US. It is much better than the other options, and does not require a data connection for navigation.
Nav4all
it called nav4all
Im planning on buying a HTC Hero but only if there is a gps tunr buy turn app with europe maps. So can anyone answer me?
I'm guessing you haven't tried Google Navigation yet ? There is a thread about using it in EU.
There are ALK CoPilot, Sygic Mobile Maps, NDrive and others. Of course they all cost money. They all work without internet connection since they store all map-data on the SD-card. There are also Navigation systems which depend on a data-connection, I don't know their names because I never cared about them.
Google Navigation, which ohgood mentioned, is free but not officially supported for Europe. It also has some flaws if used in this area. Of course it is one of those that depend on an internet connection.
O man i just saw google nav and i'm very sad to hear that you need internet con to useit coz trafic on gsm is expensive outside my country so its kind of useless 4 me.
It wouldn't matter anyway, Google Nav REQUIRES firmware 1.6+
http://www.andnav.org/
Dont know how good it is though, you will have to google some reviews.
I use Sygic in France, it works well for me. Trip calculation is a bit slow but otherwise it runs well.
I've used AndNav2 and Nav4All, both of them are free and very good turn by turn navigation, good interface and very accurate. Both needs internet connection because there's no (or little) map "buffering". I think you can use like a pre-route that download's some map information, but it still needs to connect to the internet to get more info.
Hey guys, first of all I love this forum and the people here. It's amazing the kind of apps and roms you guys come up with!
An easy question for most you is, what do I need to take advantage of GPS (if there is one) in XPERIA?
Hi angle180,
You don't have to use a dataconnection for using the GPS.
I use Sygic routeplanner in my car, without dataconnection.
And that worked fine, untill my X1 decided to stop working...
GPS is a simple antenna so the use of it is free.
Now some programs will require money to use.
but for example i use garmin xt for naivigation.
only thing to pay for is the software and any updates for said software.
With all the software making use of the GPS it makes phones with them built in super powerful.
I'm amazed that the use of GPS is free - i'm supprised they dont charge for it because its such a powerful tool!
check here for some more apps to use it (in case you missed the thread)
Thanks guys!
"I'm amazed that the use of GPS is free - i'm supprised they dont charge for it because its such a powerful tool!"
they can't
they can't detect you are using it
it's broadcast like radio your gps device don't send anything it get a "ping", signal with it's own location, from 3-more gps satellites which they keep broadcasting and thats all they do
it calculate where it is from those signals
Rudegar said:
"I'm amazed that the use of GPS is free - i'm supprised they dont charge for it because its such a powerful tool!"
they can't
they can't detect you are using it
it's broadcast like radio your gps device don't send anything it get a "ping", signal with it's own location, from 3-more gps satellites which they keep broadcasting and thats all they do
it calculate where it is from those signals
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not entirely true.
example sirius and XM can charge you for the service. same as Dish network and other sat services.
but they charge you based on your box's serial number or smart card accessing the database.
but blah thats another story.
and in my opinion, when they discovered gps they had no clue what they were sitting on. so they made it free.
just like they guy who invinted the hanger. imagine if he / she put a patent on the design.
(clothes hanger)
nhvoltagenh said:
not entirely true.
example sirius and XM can charge you for the service. same as Dish network and other sat services.
but they charge you based on your box's serial number or smart card accessing the database.
but blah thats another story.
and in my opinion, when they discovered gps they had no clue what they were sitting on. so they made it free.
just like they guy who invinted the hanger. imagine if he / she put a patent on the design.
(clothes hanger)
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and now a days companies patent all and everything they can try and patent!
comeradealexi said:
and now a days companies patent all and everything they can try and patent!
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They even try and patent things they have no right to patent
The ifixit teardown indicated the possibility of a GPS capable chip in the 7" model.
Anyone load a GPS app and see if you get any results?
Thanks!
Google Maps location doesn't work, and I have been unsuccessful sideloading any of the GPS apps I have available. All fail on install.
What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
bleclair said:
What about one of the free GPS apps on the Amazon app store, like:
http://www.amazon.com/EclipSim-GPS-...ps&ie=UTF8&qid=1348158531&sr=1-1&keywords=gps
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Hmm well interestingly enough that one installed. It took a while, but it gave me a coordinate read out as well (see screenshot, I blanked out my location but you can see what I mean). I'm not familiar with that app, so I don't know if it uses Wifi at all for determining location. It does have an option for "do not launch if GPS is not enabled" though and that is set by default. Yet, it works. You have my wondering now, I'll keep playing with some of the other apps I'm a bit more familiar with and see if I can get them to install.
The OS build might not have adequate drivers to run the GPS. This might get fixed once we get a different ROM....someday.
I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
alkemist80 said:
I have google maps up and running, though I believe it is functioning off wifi location, the location is off a little. I installed GPS satellite app and it launches, gives me data but does not show that it is picking up any satellites.
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I got GPS Test Plus installed and see the same. It doesn't find any satellites, but it is indeed finding my location based on Wifi. Acurracy of only about 200 feet. Think we are SOL for now.
UPDATE: I am playing with it more (it has a handy green light when it has GPS signal) that is yellow with WIFI off, and Green with it on. Seems to indicate it only uses Wifi for location.
even if gps is on the chip, maybe there's no antenna ?
So far no joy on getting any sort of GPS working. I bought a TomTom BlueTooth GPS module and it will not pair with the Fire HD. I get a message saying that the BlueTooth device is not compatible. None of the apps to make it work will even install.
Amazon apparently went all out in preventing people from using GPS. From what I understand the Nook will allow you to use a BlueTooth GPS.
FWIW, I tried using Google Maps on the way to and from work the last few days, and it is starting to get pretty good at finding my location via WiFi. Most of the time it was showing me within a block of my actual location, and sometimes it was actually tracking me accurately, even showing me driving up to an intersection and stopping right at the intersection. It seems to get better every time I take the same route.
I did discover that the Fire HD has a magnetic compass and accelerometer. But the compass is not very reliable.
I have a sneaky suspicion that there were some lawyers involved in these decisions...
Amazon took it really out of their way to lock down their tablets. They don't want people to use anything that doesn't rely on their services. Such as maps, either it be google, Bing, tomtom, anything not made by them. Amazon never activated voice search, the potential is there (apk in system files) but until they make it used through their ecosystem, KFHD will probably never see it. They even make it annoying to change the keyboard. Supposedly according too their website, BT only works with headphones. That is a complete limitation and annoyance.
As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7. Something, I believe it was hootsuite would constantly annoy me about location services when I had it turned off, as they claimed it was turned off via twitter and had no options and I had it off in my twitter. Location services on the KFHD killed my battery for some unknown reason.
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As for GPS, I can see it somewhat irrelevant on a device that is wifi only and was omitted, though I do enjoy it on my N7.
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How so? With Maps you can download your entire city to use offline. If you start Navigation while online, and give it a couple of minutes to cache the info, it will take you all the way to your destination offline. I tested this on a 5 hour trip, and the audible turn-by-turn took me all the way to the destination, even though in some places the map itself was blank, and it didn't know the name of the street or exit. "Take the exit on the right" instead of "Take exit 6" It was even able to do some limited rerouting offline (which is something fairly new)
Besides, now I have a MiFi and a phone with a portable HotSpot. .On long trips, however, I turn off the MiFi while underway unless I need a major reroute, or need to find something. On a long trip a few weeks ago, my wife called from our tax accountant's office and needed some info from an old bank statement. I was out in the middle of nowhere in Alabama, and I though I was going to have to drive to Birmingham to find a Wells Fargo. So I fired up the MiFi, and asked my N7 "Google...where is the nearest Wells Fargo?" and it found one in a small town less than 10 minutes away and led me straight there.
Driving in Atlanta drives me insane. Now with the MiFi and Google Maps, I can see where the stop-and-go traffic jams are and get around them.
Irrelevant??? Not hardly!
I REALLY wanted the GPS to work on the Fire HD because the pitiful speakers on the N7 aren't loud enough to hear turn-by-turn directions in heavy traffic or heavy rain, or while the radio is playing. And the washed out screen on the N7 makes it hard to make out the streets (white and yellow on off-white) They stand out much better on the Fire HD's screen.
Not everyone tethers data through their phone or device. Most cell phone plans still require additional payment services. I refuse to pay another $35-$40 a month just to tether data. If I want to use GPS, then I use my phone or my Garmin Nuvi, though I prefer google maps since they are mostly up to date.
Caching maps, ok, but you need to know exactly where you want to go. Without data, the GPS is useless unless you are using a strict GPS app to determine location only. Amazon took it out to reduce costs. While it's nice to have, it's irrelevant to their entertainment device, they don't want you to use maps anyways.
question
Would it be possible to make a hack to enable spp bluetooth profile on KFHD. Because the tomtom bluetooth gps receiver uses that profile.
I have to completely agree with drhanley i wish i could have at least bluetooth gps on the kindle fire hd.
Drhanley have you seen in the android market bluetooth spp app make an app from the market could enable the spp profile needed for tomtom gps receiver ????????