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Vehicle chargers won't work...

Okay, I'm stumped. I'm already getting a replacement device from HTC under warranty so my problem is solved, but like many of you, I HATE NOT HAVING AN EXPLANATION FOR THINGS!
I'm also wondering if anyone else has had this problem? About 10-Days ago my Kaiser (Tilt) stopped charging via the automotive charger. The A-C charger works fine, but the vehicle charger sent to me with my device from AT&T completely stopped charging my device. I went to the AT&T store & bought a new charger, It didn't work. I changed power points, & cigarette lighter in the vehicle &, it wouldn't work. I tried the charger in the vehicle of two different AT&T sales guys & also tried multiple chargers, & it wouldn't work. Is there any reason why the unit would lose it's ability to charge via a vehicle charger while still retaining it's ability to charge through USB to computer & through the A/C home charger? It seems to me that if the charge portion of the MB was fried, then all charging would be affected.
So how can my device charge fine through all means EXCEPT the vehicle charger?
Again, AT&T is sending me a new device, but I hate not having an explanation for the problem, drives me Nucking Futs!!!
Any ideas, anyone?
Thx!

I dont want to sound rude but have you checked your power settings?
Under the "Advanced" it has a option for "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC."
If this is ticked it will not charge via the in car charger.

It's a known issue, not just with the Tilt
I had the same problem with my Axim X50 and X51v.
The original sync/charge cable wouldn't charge from the car's lighter, while non-branded cables did so without any problems at all.
This happened with other Axims as well, so I know that it wasn't a defective unit.
I then purchased an HP Ipaq HW6910, and encountered the same issue with my wife's Mazda 5 - the HW6910 woudn't charge if the cable was connected to the charger, when I started the car. It only worked if the adapter and cable were disconnected while staring the car. This did not happen with my Mazda 3 or my Mitsubishi.
And another thing I discovered, is that some cables are not designed for use with car chargers, but they work perfectly with AC chargers.
I bought a couple of retracting sync/charge cables for my HW6910, they worked only when connected to the mains. But regular cables worked perfectly with both power sources.

Jygar said:
I dont want to sound rude but have you checked your power settings?
Under the "Advanced" it has a option for "When device is turned on, do not charge the battery when connected to the PC."
If this is ticked it will not charge via the in car charger.
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OF COURSE I DID.
Yeah, It charges fine from the PC, & from an A/C source. But the HTC TYTNII car charger that came with my device, as well as replacement car chargers don't work.
wisniak said:
I had the same problem with my Axim X50 and X51v.
The original sync/charge cable wouldn't charge from the car's lighter, while non-branded cables did so without any problems at all.
This happened with other Axims as well, so I know that it wasn't a defective unit.
I then purchased an HP Ipaq HW6910, and encountered the same issue with my wife's Mazda 5 - the HW6910 woudn't charge if the cable was connected to the charger, when I started the car. It only worked if the adapter and cable were disconnected while staring the car. This did not happen with my Mazda 3 or my Mitsubishi.
And another thing I discovered, is that some cables are not designed for use with car chargers, but they work perfectly with AC chargers.
I bought a couple of retracting sync/charge cables for my HW6910, they worked only when connected to the mains. But regular cables worked perfectly with both power sources.
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Funny, I just ran out to the truck & grabbed one of the guys Blackberry chargers & it looked like it was working. But SK Tools reports an even bigger (negative) amp draw (like discharging twice the normal rate). So with the BB charger it dischages even faster. Maybe reversed polarity Guess I should've checked first. That's a moot point now though as I await my new unit. Weird though.

Well i was using a BB charger that worked fine up until this morning. i bought my phone when it first came out so it wasnt easy to find a charger made for it at the time. i never had a problem until today. i also noticed that the Usb terminal on my device was bent. i called htc but they charge way too much to fix it. i have no idea how or when the terminal broke but it does still charge when pluged into pc or into the wall. ill have to spend $80 to have ppctechs fix it.

wassup, i`m in SF Cali, I had a att 8525 that was doing the same thing. I assumed it was the phone when it 1st started happening. After a week or so it was bothering me so i started playing with it trying to figure out if it was a setting, bad flash, or hardware. I noticed that if the phone was off it wood charge but not if it was on. I started flashing my phone and testing (for trouble shooting purposes) and for the first 2 or 3 roms problem still existed, then one of the roms i flashed to would turn on the back light as if it was charging but no LED or charge, when this started happening I realized that if i turned my fone off it wood start charging and continue to charge when i booted the fone back up. So if when i got in the car i pluged in/ shutdown/ waited like 45 sec or 1 min. / then booted it would temp. fix the problem for as long as my fone was on the cable. At some point after that many weeks/roms later i noticed it was working correctly again, So I had decided it was a glitch in the rom, But i`m not a Dev. or fone guru so I really dont know what it was, but hope this helps someone.... PEACE!! ~bboyphrog1~beatz`n pieces krooh~

flexte said:
Well i was using a BB charger that worked fine up until this morning. i bought my phone when it first came out so it wasnt easy to find a charger made for it at the time. i never had a problem until today. i also noticed that the Usb terminal on my device was bent. i called htc but they charge way too much to fix it. i have no idea how or when the terminal broke but it does still charge when pluged into pc or into the wall. ill have to spend $80 to have ppctechs fix it.
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The slight diagonal slant on the bottom right? It's supposed to be like that. All AT&T Tilts (and I'd assume TyTN II's, but I've never had one to compare) have a mini-usb port that looks that way.

i looked at a 8525 and the usb terminal was straight. i even took a pencil and straightened mine out. it should be bent. that wouldn't make sense because the charges slot is not bent. i think the problem is that one side of the terminal is not soldered to the board and can easily be broken. in another thread 3 people have the same issue. as far as the car charger goes ill do some testing but until today it was charging fine while the phone was on.

this issue is known ,it even happens with the htc tynt.... by simlpy rebooting while in the charger it starts working again ..at least with mine.

I've had the same problem. I went to the lcoal AT&T store and they said they never heard of it so I thought it was just me. It looks like many of you have the issue. I wish I knew what it was. It was really bad with my 8525,

i thought Faria developed a cab to fix this issue in the hermes forum? might be worth having a search for it and when i get home i will see if i have a copy on my pc.

any of you guys get anywhere with this? I have exactly the same problem. posted in a couple of other threads actually.
Not sure whether the usb port is damaged, but it's certainly is slightly "down" on the right hand side.
It charges perfectly on the mains and perfectly from usb, but not in the car.
I have used a normal car charger, spent £50 on a Carcomm powered mount and tried one of the separate chargers that you plug the standard mini usb cable into. Nothing works. This is driving me crazy (if you'll excuse the pun!) a the primary reason I bought the Kaiser, was for GPS.
Thanks

well i also just found out 2 of my minisync cables dont work anymore. 1 of them still charges the phone but neither of them sync the phone anymore. it still syncs fine through a normal usb cable.

I am using a moto Razr car charger and it works fine so far.

Okay, confirmed on my replacement Tilt: The USB port is arrow straight. Someone earlier mentioned it being lower on the right side & indeed my DEAD DEVICE was as such. Looks like a bad job of connecting the port to the device.
NOTE!!!!!!
It's a good idea to take a look at your charger before you plug it in to make sure the charger USB connector is not bent or mi-sshappened.

i have the same problem i went through 4 att car chargers adn 5 phones. They are crap. Its not the phone its the charger if you play with it you will see that it comes and goes. The end tip on the charger is bad doesnt make a good connection. i have yet to find a good car charger.

Mine stopped charging using the car charger supplied and a brodit. A friend's kaiser charges OK with the same chargers.
No-one has mentioned it in this thread, but my phone, shows "charging" in the battery control panel and the LED lights up to confirm this. The percentage charge value decreases as though it isn't being charged!
As others have done I noticed that the corner of the plastic centre of the connector nearest the reset hole was slightly bent and I assume (though can't remember doing so) that I missed the reset hole with the stylus tip and pushed it in. Menu driven resets for me from now on!
HTC Europe didn't know anything about this fault, so seem to be happy to repair / replace it under warranty. It's with them at the moment, so I'll have to wait and see.
RSVRover

faria said:
this issue is known ,it even happens with the htc tynt.... by simlpy rebooting while in the charger it starts working again ..at least with mine.
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that didnt work for me. only one of my chargers work now.

RSVRover said:
Mine stopped charging using the car charger supplied and a brodit. A friend's kaiser charges OK with the same chargers.
No-one has mentioned it in this thread, but my phone, shows "charging" in the battery control panel and the LED lights up to confirm this. The percentage charge value decreases as though it isn't being charged!
As others have done I noticed that the corner of the plastic centre of the connector nearest the reset hole was slightly bent and I assume (though can't remember doing so) that I missed the reset hole with the stylus tip and pushed it in. Menu driven resets for me from now on!
HTC Europe didn't know anything about this fault, so seem to be happy to repair / replace it under warranty. It's with them at the moment, so I'll have to wait and see.
RSVRover
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Please let me know the outcome. mine is getting worse by the day.

Now I'm confused.
Because the device charges over USB I just assumed it would draw <500mA (the max output of a USB port) but the specs say it draws up to one amp.
Having owned a high-drawing device before (Axim x50v) I know that trying to pull this out of a USB port can blow your motherboard. So are these safe to charge over USB??? How does the device know whether its being charged over USB or mains - are there different charging pins on the connector?

Batterty is alive, but won't charge

Well I'm at about 2% battery life, and it will not charge. I'm using my computer to charge it. Charging it from the wall hasnt worked for me for a while, not sure why.
Anyway I was wondering what it can be? I doubt my battery's dead or something is wrong with the phone... I'm sorry if this question's been answered, but I couldnt find an answer on google.

If USB charging works, but not charging with the AC adapter then the adapter is either bad, or plugged into a bad power outlet.

Nope it's neither of those because Ive tried two working AC ountlets and two warking cables. However, that's not my problem, my phone died and I can't charge it :-/

Ya so the phone died. It didn't look like it was going to charge on the USB, really weird. Anyone ever have there phone refusing to charge? While it was alive I tried to run activesync; that didn't work. So what should I do?
Btw, I've had the phone for a couple months now and I haven't had any big problems. I don't think it can be my phone failing, worst case just the battery. I've had something similar before but it fixed itself, doesn't look like thats happeneing now.

Battery
Maybe charging from the computer wasn't such a good idea. I recommend changing the battery and the charger and always be a nice boy and charge from the outlet ::- ).

I had the same thing happen to me - the connector at the bottom was broken. I had to do a return to factory. I looked (using a magnifying class) at the bottom of the phone and clearly see a crack in the connector.

It doesn't charge from the outlet.... I kinda just explained that lol

jrd said:
I had the same thing happen to me - the connector at the bottom was broken. I had to do a return to factory. I looked (using a magnifying class) at the bottom of the phone and clearly see a crack in the connector.
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Hmm my connector does look a little bent. However it would of had to be like this before, and it was charging until I let my battery get to 5% :-/

I had a similar problem with my Kaiser a couple of weeks ago - it started to crawl and a soft reset took over 15 minutes to come back up to a working state, after which the battery wouldn't charge. It definitely wasn't the charger at fault as that still works on my TyTN. Phone was about 3 months old, so called Vodafone UK who seemed to think it was software related and so provided next day swap out. Old battery works in the new handset so never did get to find out if it was hardware or software that caused it to die.

Here's what probabally happened... you meant to stick you stylus in the reset hole and accidently put it in the usb hole... thus bending your charging port. I did it and when I plugged it into my car it would actually discharge the battery.. but when I plugged it into an outlet it just wouldn't charge.. if I were you I'd go see if it charges in a car

I appear to have a similar issue when charging from PC usb, and have identified that if I put pressure up or down on the charger it will charge the kaiser. But if plug in the charger without applying directional force it will not charge. Currently i have a small weight resting on the mini USB chargin input.
So obviously something up with the connector. But I haven't jammed anything up the usb port to my knowledge. Are these ports really that flimsy?

Tilt owners: If charge mechanism breaks, is ATT cool?
Oh no, now I can't charge or sync my Tilt.
My power is slowly running out.
What do I do? This is covered by manufacturers warranty in a year, is
ATT going to take my Tilt back and give me a new one?
I need my phone to be working and working well.
Thoughts?

axonn said:
Maybe charging from the computer wasn't such a good idea. I recommend changing the battery and the charger and always be a nice boy and charge from the outlet ::- ).
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Charging from the computer should be better than the wall, given that the USB ports on the computer have a 5.5v output, while wall chargers have 5v.

TomTom Car Charger work on HTC touch

Hey Guys,
I notice that the HTC has a generic UBS connection. And shares the same connection type as my TomTom Car charger for my GPS system. I am wondering if I can use the charger for my phone without frying it?
Thanks

ern88 said:
Hey Guys,
I notice that the HTC has a generic UBS connection. And shares the same connection type as my TomTom Car charger for my GPS system. I am wondering if I can use the charger for my phone without frying it?
Thanks
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i read in another thread somebody fried thier vogue doing that if i find the post ill quote it
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I have a vogue that i plugged into a gps charger, led flashed pink and never heard from the phone again lol. it is dead if he needs it for parts it is his.
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guess this answers it

Hey. Thanks alot. I thought I would asked before I became a doe head. Thanks

I use my TomTom one charger to charge my Touch XV6900 all the time also have used it on a 6800 that my wife has. Never had any problems myself. But it really has to do with the voltage that the charger supplies. The Motorola charger puts out on 3 volts when a usb supplies 5 volts and the HTC can charge on the 5 volts but not the other way around.

tomtom gps charger for vogue
works like it was made for it. i use mine all the time.never had an issue.and means that i only need one cord in the car which is good with a miata

Just for the record; I used my Vogue with TomTom car charger, worked wonderfully well, atleast thats what I thought but I ended up destroying my mini usb connection on phone. Now I have to hold the original charger at a particular position or it wont charge!!

i would be cautious. im pretty sure all the USB plugs are wired the same- hence universal- i tried a charger i had laying around the house with a universal plug and similar voltages and it worked like a charm- once- then i tried it again and it wont recognize the charger for a charge- havent the slightest idea what is going on with it but i would suggest OEM car charger or power inverter (i have one in the car for my laptop)

Kaiser no charge,only on usb

Hello I have a very serious problem whit my Kaiser it doesn't charge, only on usb. I have a PDA charger, and a car charger(may be this is it's name) but they don't charge my kaiser.
I upgrade the radio recently and than i upgrade the rom. After that i discovered that problem.
Moreover the mini usb connection port on my PDA is in bad condition.
Perhaps that is the problem?
Please answer me.

If the miniusb port is in bad condition, it could be the port that is the issue.
Normally, if only one charger isnt working, I would say it is possible that the power supply on the charger is either sub-par or no longer working correctly. However, if your car charger isn't charging it either, that is a bit odd.
Was everything working properly until you began flashing things, or is it possible you just did not notice it until now?

EDIT: I misunderstood the OP and posted incorrect advice, please ignore this comment.

Well, before the flash the PDA charged both with the car carger and the regular charger.
But in the past I saw, when I plug the charger into the Mini usb port the PDA's led become orange (you know that's mean the charge) but the battery's power was the same after 2 hours. And now I connected again and the led wasn't change...:S But the usb carged my PDA 100% for the morning...
Well neither the chargers aren't the HTS's official chargers and the PDA isn't charge eith them when I turn of.
But it's charge from the USB. I can't understand it...

Sorry I have no idea, this is out of my league, I'm a noob
Wish I could help.

I have had the exact same issue since six months ago, and MiniDevil is probably correct.
If you look closely on the miniUSB jack on your phone one of the contact (golden) pins should be bent down, rather than up (if you are looking it with your phone's screen facing up). On mine is the rightmost pin.
When this first occurred I went to various repair centers and unfortunately no one could offer me a fix. You should check your local repair centers, maybe you have better luck.
I don't know what works differently from a USB port to a USB AC Charger. Maybe someone can clarify this part.
Good luck to you sir.
- Jim

Thanx all the answers

seriously? the usb works but the ac chargers don't because of the pins?! gahh. the igo might work...they tested it out at an att store for me, i just dont know which it is..i probably have to go back..

[Q] Touchscreen response problem

I replaced the screen on my phone myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector, does anyone know where i could find a replacement piece for that? Or if there is something else i might be able to substitute for that?

illa215 said:
I replaced the screen on my phone myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector, does anyone know where i could find a replacement piece for that? Or if there is something else i might be able to substitute for that?
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I have no clue, but chances are it is some kind of insulator, could you not make something out of paper or card?
And your subject says response problem? Try a screen calibration.

Yea i tried a screen calibration but it always fails though. I was thinking about trying a card or something but i didnt know if it would be safe to use tape on that part of the phone, i might have to send it to Dell

Why start two threads on the same issue? and this one is in the wrong forum.

Because my computer was messing up so i wasnt even sure if this one even posted, is it really bothering u that much?

Yes, it bothers us that much.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

I have a question about the screen... I have a big problem with it...
So my battery often runs empty. So I need to charge at several places - at the computer, in bed, in my girlfriends house.. so i bought some usb-cables for the streak... and some usb ac adaptors, like for iphone, with 12V and 1000 mah output.
So, now the problem: The cables aren'T original, but they work great. When i charge the phone with the original charger and a faked cable, also no problem. But if i use any cable with a non-original ac-usb adaptor, the screen bekomes unusable. if you want to delete a letter in a sms than, you write a m and a b und strange words, i can see the swype-line doing what it wants. same on homescreen, cant press the right icons. if i unplug the charger, everythin works fine again. i also compared the data of the original dell charger and the alternative one, same output and mah-number....
Have you ever heard of this problem?
And most important, do you know how to solve it? (please don't tell me to buy an original charger, i dont want to wast 40 € for this....

Yes, same problem with Wagan Home/Car ac/dc charger ONLY when AC charging. Probably isn't good for device, but I've never had any battery problems. Screen issues go away as soon as charger is unplugged. I just don't use the device screen when it is on that charger AC only. Works fine in car (DC).
Okay, I won't tell you that the only way to avoid it is to use the Dell factory charger (but it is)
kraz

Well, it is not, just tried the ac adaptor from my sister, worked fine

That screen behavior is caused by unfiltered output of adaptor (china, is it?).
Can be at least partially solved by using a ferrite ring or USB cable that already has one.
For example:
http://www.dataq.com/products/hardware/accessories/fc.htm

for this orice, i can also buy a new adaptor and hope that this helps
but thanks for the info
(and no, it's from great britain, but made in china )

RadioShack part #273-0067 2/bag $3.19. I realize most recent poster is from UK. This info is for anyone in USA having the same problem. One on each end of usb cable gets rid of 85-90% of interference, and makes screen usable while charging with non-original (Wagan) charger.
kraz

RadioShack part #273-0067
I replaced the screen on my dell streak myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector , it has 6 pins
And its call ribbon connector i thing?
can anyone help me find this part
i appriciate it
thanks

i had the same problem. I cut a tiny piece of a business card (make sure its a sturdy one though and not regular paper). Place the cut piece over the connector but under those gold pins. works just fine now

joelk said:
I replaced the screen on my dell streak myself but somehow i lost the little flap that goes over the touchscreen connector , it has 6 pins
And its call ribbon connector i thing?
can anyone help me find this part
i appriciate it
thanks
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Try with "dellstreakrepairs.co.uk"