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Advatanges of Empty Ext. Rom

I've tried looking around for the answer to this but I guess I keep missing it. From what I'm good find the only reason one would have an empty Ext. Rom is to have more rom space on the phone. But not even sure what good that would do exactly.
Can anyone share some light and infom me please?

AFAIK
this is just like what we used to do to get rid of the sh1tty PIM apps on the Palm3 series, erase all the unnecessarry bits from the rom then you can use and app to make a "rom-disk" so you can use the space...
I myself would love to see a rom without any pim apps since I use third party apps for all these functions. and i'd kill file explorer and im sure there are others..
I gonna try to just add all my apps to a custom rom then just flash that, then even a hard reset you have all your apps... I think this is the "GOAL" here, I think unlocking the space and making it visible is working but writing needs another app and may not be "tom,**** and harry friendly, just yet".
Im gonna look into just cooking a rom with all the apps off I want off and as many of my third party apps in it, this seems the best way to go, from what Ive read, rom cooking on a PC is much easier than "adding/deleting" from ROM on board, at this point.
Its is a bit easier on board, but not safer, flashing is always dangerous, and removing things from the palm roms had som undesired affects that had to be ferreted out, It is not a PLUG and PLAY project...But its not all that hard, All this is theory that ive built up since I bought this thing about 3 weeks back, I have yet to test any of this, this isn't meant to be a howto but more a how-Im_gonna_try-it..
bhang

On what seems like every phone except the wizard, you can write to the ext rom, install apps to it, etc. That was the case with my old Blue Angel phone, anyway. With the wizard, you can't write to it without trashing it so the only thing it's really good for is when creating a custom rom, you can stick stuff in there to be installed after the flash or hard reset. Then it's basically useless. Woo hoo, huh?

Re: AFAIK
bhang said:
this is just like what we used to do to get rid of the sh1tty PIM apps on the Palm3 series, erase all the unnecessarry bits from the rom then you can use and app to make a "rom-disk" so you can use the space...
I myself would love to see a rom without any pim apps since I use third party apps for all these functions. and i'd kill file explorer and im sure there are others..
I gonna try to just add all my apps to a custom rom then just flash that, then even a hard reset you have all your apps... I think this is the "GOAL" here, I think unlocking the space and making it visible is working but writing needs another app and may not be "tom,**** and harry friendly, just yet".
Im gonna look into just cooking a rom with all the apps off I want off and as many of my third party apps in it, this seems the best way to go, from what Ive read, rom cooking on a PC is much easier than "adding/deleting" from ROM on board, at this point.
Its is a bit easier on board, but not safer, flashing is always dangerous, and removing things from the palm roms had som undesired affects that had to be ferreted out, It is not a PLUG and PLAY project...But its not all that hard, All this is theory that ive built up since I bought this thing about 3 weeks back, I have yet to test any of this, this isn't meant to be a howto but more a how-Im_gonna_try-it..
bhang
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i am also looking into doing the same thing.. like you mentioned i think the only thing its good for is to have your programs after a hard reset, it would certainly be more conveniant, not to mention i would like to remove some of the cingular garbage that gets added...

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bhang said:
this is just like what we used to do to get rid of the sh1tty PIM apps on the Palm3 series, erase all the unnecessarry bits from the rom then you can use and app to make a "rom-disk" so you can use the space...
I myself would love to see a rom without any pim apps since I use third party apps for all these functions. and i'd kill file explorer and im sure there are others..
I gonna try to just add all my apps to a custom rom then just flash that, then even a hard reset you have all your apps... I think this is the "GOAL" here, I think unlocking the space and making it visible is working but writing needs another app and may not be "tom,**** and harry friendly, just yet".
Im gonna look into just cooking a rom with all the apps off I want off and as many of my third party apps in it, this seems the best way to go, from what Ive read, rom cooking on a PC is much easier than "adding/deleting" from ROM on board, at this point.
Its is a bit easier on board, but not safer, flashing is always dangerous, and removing things from the palm roms had som undesired affects that had to be ferreted out, It is not a PLUG and PLAY project...But its not all that hard, All this is theory that ive built up since I bought this thing about 3 weeks back, I have yet to test any of this, this isn't meant to be a howto but more a how-Im_gonna_try-it..
bhang
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I fully agree with you on that. One of the major things I hate about flashing a new rom and having to re-install all the apps 1 by . To be able to hard reset with all the programs install would definitely top notch.

Just a question for all the developers here...
As like we did in magician where we could remove the ext rom and then add it again with the phone memory to increase the size of phone memory from 7mb to wooping 27mb (Bigstorage Hack)....Is it possible to do it with TyTN phone memory toooo...??that means by not using the seperately 7-10mb of ext rom with reg hack but adding it completely with the phones 48mb thus increasing it to 60mb or so...???
Thanks

sajib said:
Just a question for all the developers here...
As like we did in magician where we could remove the ext rom and then add it again with the phone memory to increase the size of phone memory from 7mb to wooping 27mb (Bigstorage Hack)....Is it possible to do it with TyTN phone memory toooo...??that means by not using the seperately 7-10mb of ext rom with reg hack but adding it completely with the phones 48mb thus increasing it to 60mb or so...???
Thanks
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It would be brilliant if someone could do this. But there are different kinds of storage on WM5 devices, which is why the allocation slider between storage and program memory in the memory panel is not operational. So I'm not sure that the recovered memory would be usable as program memory... maybe just add some storage memory. Just not sure...

what we need to do is get a fresh rom, xelencin's 2.25 tmob is what Im thinking of using, then I want to take out
excel
power point
calender
contacts
tasks
file explorer?(it might pay to keep this just in case)
that should be a good start, then Im gonna try to add to the ROM,
Pocket informant
resco explorer and regedit
Hitchhiker
spb pocketplus
I think Im just gonna use the ext rom that comes with the above mentioned rom, so ill add any apps that i cant fit into my "edited" ROM into the EXT rom, i think i should be able to add them to the "stock" extrom
I have tons of reading to do before I think I'll have a rom Im willing to flash to my wiz, is there an emulator for pc to test roms before flashing them?
Is all of this possible, with available tools?, from what Ive read it is but somebody tell me if im wrong...
bhang

im a noob at this... i have only made 1 successful rom so far and it was just the extended rom that i changed.. So let me share some light on yours to the best of my knowledge so far...
Now as far as excel, PP, Calendar, tasks and file explorer.. i think they are actually part of the OS and not in the extended rom. Cause if you take a clean rom with 1 or 2 files in the extended rom like Mulski's then you still end up with all of those programs.. (someone please correct me if im wrong)
And as far as what you want to add.. Yes thats possible, you would need to add those to the extended rom (but not on the device) Do some searching on what you need to to.. there are some great threads out there that give you step by step instructions... which for some reason i cant find at this point in time... was gonna give you the link, but i just spent 30 minutes searching and cant the thread with a pdf of step by step instructions on making a rom...

I think I read that's what Summiter is overall aiming to do. Make so we can choose what we want. I can definitely use a feature like removing powerpoint and the rest of the stuff I never use.

Backup Help...

Hi, i have been searching for a How-to thread on How To backup the kaiser, tilt or any pda. and had no luck.
But my problem is this.
I already setup my tilt to the way i pretty much want it with tweaks, programs and settings, but i would like to take out all that att crap aka bloatware.
Is there a way to take out all that att crap and save all my settings, programs, tweaks etc. i already set and installed or would i have to start all over again?
and if i can do that how do i go about backing up my phone and re installing the restoring it without the att crap?
Thanks in advance.

backup
the only way to get rid of the att crap is to to a hard reset. most of the programs are built into the rom and can not be uninstalled. \
in order to aviod the reinstalling of the apps after a hard reset you need to reset the device right before all the customizations start.
in order to back up your comtacts emails txt msgs and such u need to search for a program called PIM backup. it will back up all of your info.
if i am wrong someone will correct me.

dipp02 said:
Hi, i have been searching for a How-to thread on How To backup the kaiser, tilt or any pda. and had no luck.
But my problem is this.
I already setup my tilt to the way i pretty much want it with tweaks, programs and settings, but i would like to take out all that att crap aka bloatware.
Is there a way to take out all that att crap and save all my settings, programs, tweaks etc. i already set and installed or would i have to start all over again?
and if i can do that how do i go about backing up my phone and re installing the restoring it without the att crap?
Thanks in advance.
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I am a fan of SPB Backup. but there is also Sprite Backup. Both are good and both backup all your installations settings etc. They provide full backups that can have you back up and running in ten to fifteen minutes after a hard reset or a major fault.Unfortunately it is probably a little late to remove bloatware from ATT. Most if not all these add on applications and trials etc were built into the ROM from ATT. You cannot now remove them from the ROM. You might have been able to stop the installation of this bloatware when you first got the device. However, if you were to hard reset now and stop it runnng the customisation stuff, you could not then run your backup, else it will all be put back on again. One or two things may appear in the remove programs section.Still now you have all this experience, you can start again, maybe even try a 'clean' ROM although that brings a different set of issues. It all depends how it is working and if you are happy with it.Mike

The included Sprite back up software is pretty good. It does back up (and restore) all data including programs, tweaks (registry) and most settings. I do notice that it does not back up GPRS proxy settings, but that's easy enough to reconfigure. Can't help with the bloatware.

i guess its not a big pain to redo all my settings... its not too much work to do...
What ROM performs the fastest? i notice this one that came on the tilt is a little slow when txt messaging and when trying to use it in general.
Can someone point me into the right direction?
I downloaded the kaiser-HardSPL.exe program. to unlock it but havent tried yet i wanna make sure im heading into the right direction.
which ROM is the best for ATT? i would like to speed the phone up a little bit.
But if i do this i shouldnt even try and backup my settings because u cant restore different rom backups to other ROM versions .. am i correct?
Thanks for all the help so far!

mikechannon said:
I am a fan of SPB Backup. but there is also Sprite Backup. Both are good and both backup all your installations settings etc. They provide full backups that can have you back up and running in ten to fifteen minutes after a hard reset or a major fault.Unfortunately it is probably a little late to remove bloatware from ATT. Most if not all these add on applications and trials etc were built into the ROM from ATT. You cannot now remove them from the ROM. You might have been able to stop the installation of this bloatware when you first got the device. However, if you were to hard reset now and stop it runnng the customisation stuff, you could not then run your backup, else it will all be put back on again. One or two things may appear in the remove programs section.Still now you have all this experience, you can start again, maybe even try a 'clean' ROM although that brings a different set of issues. It all depends how it is working and if you are happy with it.Mike
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which rom do u suggest i use for att? thanks bud

How much time to restore after ROM flash?

For me, I wrote down about 15 apps and total 80 settings throughout the phone.. which takes about 2-3hrs.
What about your guys? Would be grateful if you have tips to share too.

15-20 mins..... about 10 apps and 25 settings.
Done it so many times, that I've build a routine lol.

Yip it drives my SWAMBO* Nuts
I flash a new rom and then sit in front of the telly and load all my apps.
I have a Installs folder on my Internal Storage with all my apps and I just got through it one by one. I have Cabs that setup owner info and various reg entries for weather favorites etc.
I have done it so much it is almost automated while I watch TV
Jules
*SWAMBO = She Who Always Must Be Obeyd = Wife

ZaJules said:
Yip it drives my SWAMBO* Nuts
*SWAMBO = She Who Always Must Be Obeyd = Wife
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same here.
learned something: SWAMBO = sexy code name for the deadly enemy of my diamond....lol

Does Sprite backup not sort all this stuff out?
I thought that's why HTC is giving it away and was asking users to load it up before ROM flashing....as they've put out a few (ROMs that is)

WasStoNed said:
Does Sprite backup not sort all this stuff out?
I thought that's why HTC is giving it away and was asking users to load it up before ROM flashing....as they've put out a few (ROMs that is)
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warning!
the backup contains registry information from the old ROM that is not going to fit the new registry you'll get after flashing a new ROM.
you can restore PIM and e-mails but i doubted that it is wise to do a whole system restore 'cose after flashing u'll have a new system.
i think you'll better reinstall yr programs one by one.

Cheers, glad you said that!!!!
One thing if I have Tomtom7 and I have PAID for maps will a new ROM confuse anything?

"I have a Installs folder on my Internal Storage with all my apps and I just got through it one by one".. hey.. now that's a good tip right there
Sprite does have an option specifcally to restore after a ROM update... but I don't have confidence it can figure out precisely what to restore. Anyone tried it?

Complete ROM & Phone Backup? (Ghost Image?)

Is this possible to do with my tilt? I currently have Slueth WM6.1 customized how I like it and everything functional... however Id like to try some other ROMs to see if I like them.
But I do not want to reload a new ROM, decide I dont like it, and have to spend hours reloading my previous one and installing all the fixes and programs and settings that I like.... is there a way to make a ROM backup, like a "ghost" image of my phone, like you can with a computer hard drive?
Thanks in advance...

jay487 said:
Is this possible to do with my tilt? I currently have Slueth WM6.1 customized how I like it and everything functional... however Id like to try some other ROMs to see if I like them.
But I do not want to reload a new ROM, decide I dont like it, and have to spend hours reloading my previous one and installing all the fixes and programs and settings that I like.... is there a way to make a ROM backup, like a "ghost" image of my phone, like you can with a computer hard drive?
Thanks in advance...
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Use SPB BACKUP it makes a true copy of your phone and can be backed up from your phone and your pc it has saved me a few times. There are others out there its just SPV is my fav
Take a look
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/

Does SPB Backup make a backup of the total ROM?
what i know it will make backup of your: contact, sms, mail, agenda etc etc..

160bpm said:
Does SPB Backup make a backup of the total ROM?
what i know it will make backup of your: contact, sms, mail, agenda etc etc..
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Yes spb is a total back up solution...
Check the link placed above.

lufc said:
Use SPB BACKUP it makes a true copy of your phone and can be backed up from your phone and your pc it has saved me a few times. There are others out there its just SPV is my fav
Take a look
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/
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is there any way to plug ur phone in and do it from the computer? i have a phone where the screen is cracked and blurred up with patches of colors. but tht phone has EVERYTHING on it. can i tranfer the image onto my new phone without having to use the touch screen? btw im using a sprint TP2.

djblaqmarket said:
is there any way to plug ur phone in and do it from the computer? i have a phone where the screen is cracked and blurred up with patches of colors. but tht phone has EVERYTHING on it. can i tranfer the image onto my new phone without having to use the touch screen? btw im using a sprint TP2.
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There is a software called MyMobiler that will give you a remote desktop to> the phone, so you can see in a window on the desktop what your phone screen is.

DemonLoader said:
There is a software called MyMobiler that will give you a remote desktop to> the phone, so you can see in a window on the desktop what your phone screen is.
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Very nice app. Used it all the time when my Kaiser was my main phone.

SPB Clone is another product that they make.
It is pretty awesome.
You can create an image to a flash card and restore the entire image back to the phone.

How to only back up my own installed programs and pim info?

I did a search and as Ive found over the past few years the search option blows. Anyway, I have been customizing my tilt as well as my moms (that I will be shipping back to her) anyway I need to put another rom on her phone but dont want to lose the customization since it took so long to do.
My question is what specifically to select in lets say sprite back up or spb?
Thanks.

Spb backup allows you to back up the entire phone, contacts, installed programs, sms, everything.
i used it when i was trying out new roms becuase i didn't want to re-set up my phone again from scratch after messing with a new OS.

Fully agree

Sprite Backup also lets you choose exactly what you want to backup.