Can a bad flash mess up the keyboard in a way that you have to press a key 4 5 times to get the letter to type or long press it a little hard? I bought this tilt used but looks like new and i didnt really test the keyboard before i flashed a custom rom. So i dont know if it is a flash or hardware problem.
Thanks for any help
I can't think of any reason why a bad flash would mess up the KB that badly. if anything, flashing a custom ROM would mix up the symbols that are available after the FN key is pressed
thanks
I thought that too. I have had to use the keyboard fix on other flashes cause of the fn keys. I just didnt want to take it a part lol.
But figured i would have too.
Thanks
My keyboard randomly will require me to hit a button like 8 or 9 times then finally realise im pressing it. Im pretty unhappy about this because I send text messages and people cant tell when im drunk or not!
Dirty keyboard is dirty
black truck 10 said:
My keyboard randomly will require me to hit a button like 8 or 9 times then finally realise im pressing it. Im pretty unhappy about this because I send text messages and people cant tell when im drunk or not!
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Now thats funny. I get the same remarks with my texts, but the button thing is hit or miss.
varies on different roms, but this does happen, some roms the hard keyboard doesn't work properly on, myself and MANY others have noticed this.
Well about7 or so keys i have to push real hard and they work. i did flash 2 other roms and still the same thing so gona replace the keyboard and see.
From what I understand, the SPL you're using can make a huge difference with keyboard responsiveness/speed. Maybe a different SPL would improve your keyboard issues.
Dave
Ok will try to flash another SPL again this weekend lol.. Need a break from flasing and reinstalling everything did it 3 times in 2 days. Thanks for the info
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Just wondering if anyone else's Tilt is acting up like mine, the keyboard when sending texts will sometimes miss a good bit of key presses and I have to go back 3 or 4 times to register the key.
It worked fine at first so I figured it was something I did so I tried a hard reset and after about 30 minutes it started again.
yup - my keyboard has been crappy since day 1. i often miss key presses and the 'click' feedback isn't there on some presses.
never had a problem with my 8525s - had 3 of them and the keyboard was always flawless.
waiting for a store to get more stock so i can see if have a faulty keyboard.
yeah i have strange problem with my keyboard too. it only seems to be missing key presses for double-letters, like the 'pp' in 'happy' or 'll' in 'hello'. the second letter sometimes doesn't show up.
its strange because typing things like 'apapapapapapa' quickly over and over again, it doesn't seem like any of the letters are getting dropped.
rking84 said:
yeah i have strange problem with my keyboard too. it only seems to be missing key presses for double-letters, like the 'pp' in 'happy' or 'll' in 'hello'. the second letter sometimes doesn't show up.
its strange because typing things like 'apapapapapapa' quickly over and over again, it doesn't seem like any of the letters are getting dropped.
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is this with the AT&T rom? the HTC rom? or both?
this is the at&t rom, without the bloatware installed.
With all the crap that AT&T did to their ROM, I don't know why anybody on here uses it. I had it for half an hour before I couldn't stand it anymore and switched to the HTC ROM.
same bug with german t-mobile rom... its like the device is busy.
unfortunately the same on HTC Tytn II German Rom too.
so is this a defect with the hardware or the software? i dont want to bother exchanging it if it happens on every device.
disable word complete and auto correct and see if it works a little better
did for me
dld
I experience missed key presses but rarely. I do however experience a probelm when using shift quite a bit. If I want to capitalize a letter I hit shift and then type the word, sometimes it will also capitalize the second letter. So Happy would be typed out as HAppy. It's annoying going back to fix it!!!!!!!!!!
RacerX10 said:
disable word complete and auto correct and see if it works a little better
did for me
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Disabling these solved it.
decepticon said:
Disabling these solved it.
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didn't work for me. German HTC ROM. Only happens if double letters are typed quickly. second letter gets lost. it is definitely a bug!
I noticed that the "C" button I have to press harder to get it to work.. I'm going to see if I can have my tilt replaced ..
Just info no solution.
Using HTC shipped ROM
There are two issues outlined: Repeated letter getting missed and Shift causing capitalization of second letter as well as the first.
Issue one I cannot reproduce even with auto correct and word completion set to on. No matter how fast I get the letters in, both letters appear. The implication is that it may be a ROM issue, but also of course may be due to other apps installed. Less likely to be hardware, except in as much as some people may be pressing less firmly for the second letter???
The second issue where after pressing shift two letters instead of the first only are capitalized. I can reproduce this but only under fixed circumstances:
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There needs to be a clear release of the first letter before the second is pressed. So for example if you hit (shift) then an "A" with your left thumb and "L" with your right thumb the both letters will be capitalized if you are still pressing the "A" when you hit the "L". Never will it then give a third capitalized letter because clicking the second letter cancels the (shifT) key.
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If the first letter and the second are very close together say "D" and "E" it is possible to move from one to the other without releasing the first and again both letters will be capitalised.
So in conclusion I think this happens when either the letters are imediately adjacent to each other or if the first letter is not being released fast enough ie before the second one is pressed (easy to do if you are using two fingers to type quickly)
Mike
ya, this is an issue with the kaiser and the tilt (i've owned both). It was the samew ay with the blackjack. This is VERY annoying and i would LOVE to find a fix for it.
Thanks,
re: Mike
thanks for the test. it does seem like it would be a software problem, but i have installed both the att and the cooked rom from the kaiser upgrading forum, and they both have the double-letter problem.
i tried it right after i loaded the cooked rom, so i dont think it would be any software i loaded. and whether auto-correct/word completion on, it happens.
anyone else have any ideas?
alaiwy said:
ya, this is an issue with the kaiser and the tilt (i've owned both). It was the samew ay with the blackjack. This is VERY annoying and i would LOVE to find a fix for it.
Thanks,
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double letter or capitalization issue?
the double letter is the only issue i have with the keyboard and it makes me crazy.
alaiwy said:
the double letter is the only issue i have with the keyboard and it makes me crazy.
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some just posted this in howardforums:
have you tried changing this?
Start->Settings->Buttons->Up/Down Control and make the delay short.
i tried it and it seemed like it made it better? it doesn't seem to refer to the keyboard but it works i think...?
I find that as i write txts the spacebar seems to be quite slow in responding. For example if i write ''hello i am andehh', it will usually appear as helloi ama ndehh', and i have to go back and correct it.
Im sure this didnt happen when i first install dutty's latest, but it might just be the fact that as iv gotten used to the keyboard iv sped up my typing a bit.
is it just me, or is there anything that can be done to improve its responsiveness?
thanks guys
Andehh said:
I find that as i write txts the spacebar seems to be quite slow in responding. For example if i write ''hello i am andehh', it will usually appear as helloi ama ndehh', and i have to go back and correct it.
Im sure this didnt happen when i first install dutty's latest, but it might just be the fact that as iv gotten used to the keyboard iv sped up my typing a bit.
is it just me, or is there anything that can be done to improve its responsiveness?
thanks guys
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This is a common issue, try to serach for disableT9 CAB and install it.
I've noticed the same. I run Dutty's roms also, so that could be it, but I seriously doubt it...
After being frustrated with myself, convinced I was somehow fat-fingering something, I figured out that all the keys except for the spacebar react as soon as the button is pushed. I.E. you hit "X", and an X appears right away before the key is released. The spacebar waits for you to release it before it adds a space.
Combine those two things with "two-thumbed typing" and I get textt hatl ooks liket his whenever i try to type too quick.
Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.
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TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.
I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.
It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.
My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...
So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..
have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?
yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...
you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.
Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.
Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...
Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...
Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome
Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?
Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.
I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.
Hey! It seems my qwerty works bad... when i write any sms, or notes.. or sthing that i write with this keyboard.
When i just write (for example) Hey, whats up? Im fine, thanks
it randomdly duplicates some letters and eats some spaces, so the note seems like:
Heyy, whatsup? IIm fine,thannks
does any1 know why?? please im desesperated... i need help
thank you very much!
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Hey! It seems my qwerty works bad... when i write any sms, or notes.. or sthing that i write with this keyboard.
When i just write (for example) Hey, whats up? Im fine, thanks
it randomdly duplicates some letters and eats some spaces, so the note seems like:
Heyy, whatsup? IIm fine,thannks
does any1 know why?? please im desesperated... i need help
thank you very much!
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this is sometimes an issue when your inbox/sent messages get full.
you can clear them out or reflash the rom.
I've heard of a lot of people sending their phone in for repair for this issue but try clearing them out/or re-flashing because I'm 99% positive its a software not hardware issue.
Sorry But reflash with original Rom, and Empty box wont help I have the same. Maby is some driver? I clean my keyboard with vacuumcleaner, but the same happen, dubles or triples letters, or eating letters or spaces.
Well, all my inbox from sms, email, etc. are empty
i hard reseted 3 times right now...
seems ill have to send it to repair (for second time now.. ive used my xperia only 1month from 2 haha, lets wait another 1 ^^...)
if any1 knows another way to solve this.. i got until monday to send it to repair !!! would be very thankful !
thank you very much !
zygiboos said:
Sorry But reflash with original Rom, and Empty box wont help I have the same. Maby is some driver? I clean my keyboard with vacuumcleaner, but the same happen, dubles or triples letters, or eating letters or spaces.
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if the keyboard were to degrade it would happen below the keys. and the keyboard is one solid piece.
and it isn't a driver issue.
I've had this issue on every single wmo device I've ever owned so try clearing, or re-flashing your rom again before you consider sending it in for repair.
UnD said:
Well, all my inbox from sms, email, etc. are empty
i hard reseted 3 times right now...
seems ill have to send it to repair (for second time now.. ive used my xperia only 1month from 2 haha, lets wait another 1 ^^...)
if any1 knows another way to solve this.. i got until monday to send it to repair !!! would be very thankful !
thank you very much !
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you hard reset? or soft reset 3 times?
hard reseted, the one that clears all the device. pressing those 2 buttons down the screen, plus the "on" button ^^ yes yes i mean hard reset hehe
i dont know how to flash a rom :'( and i cleared it with a program, which i downloaded from a website hehe
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hard reseted, the one that clears all the device. pressing those 2 buttons down the screen, plus the "on" button ^^ yes yes i mean hard reset hehe
i dont know how to flash a rom :'( and i cleared it with a program, which i downloaded from a website hehe
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haha you'd be surprised how many people confuse the two.
well I would definitely try flashing it *hint*(the sticky's are full of useful information).
If not, call up SE and set up the repair.
Ok, im just trying to flash now, ill post another time when it finishes with the result
thank you!!!
i dont know if it could be, but it seems like having the same bug, but with less % of appearing, i mean, lesser letters appear duplicated, and lesser words and spaces appear bugged too
but anyway they continue appearing... so i really dont know what happen... :'(...
more ideas?
I have the same issue. I think it's becouse of dust between letters on the keyboard Im thinking about opening device and cleaning keyboard becouse my x1 is not on warranty. But before that I want to try to clean it with compressed air in spray. It is a good cleaner for electronics so may can help but before use that remember about turning off device and taking out battery.
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I have the same issue. I think it's becouse of dust between letters on the keyboard Im thinking about opening device and cleaning keyboard becouse my x1 is not on warranty. But before that I want to try to clean it with compressed air in spray. It is a good cleaner for electronics so may can help but before use that remember about turning off device and taking out battery.
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that's impossible.. the keyboard is like a film its one solid piece, so any dust going between letters goes no where. the only possible things are.. either condensation got stuck between the keyboard and the responsive layer below it.. that layer below it has started to break down and degrade.. or its a software issue.
how is your x1 not under warranty?
UnD, if you tried reflashing then you just have to call up SE for a repair because its a hardware issue then.
I have the same, after flashing less, but still problems. No mater is original or Fun's Rom
I had quite similar problem - space button didnt work correctly very offen and then all keys around space stoped working correctly - doubling the letters, sometimes not working at all etc.
I had it repaired in service - covered by warranty. They changed whole keyboard.
I'm having the same problem... very frustrating getting triple full stops or two 'o' letters in 'of'.
got two cracks in the case. What are the chances of a replacement do you think? still under 1 year warranty.
i have the same issue.
its caused by dirt/dust etc under the keyboard.
the only way to fix it is to take the handset apart.
best bet is to phone sony and get it repaired
I have the same issue and was wondering if it was a problem caused by:
Dust under the keys
Misalignment of the keys
Will try a hard reset and see if that helps.
I have the same issue. Tried multiple roms and stock roms and clearing the whole phone and its still the same issue. Im sending it back for repair. Warrany is 2 years =P
ive been re-flashing my ROM twice so far... empty my inbox as well, but doesnt seem to fix it, but ill try another flash again x_x
Even the Fn Button (Blue Square at corner left down) wasnt responding if i didnt press it hard enough
just cleared sms/mms now works great again
but i still will write with fingerkeyboard until i get the iphone
xperia is good but keyboard sux (should not happend) and WM is far away from the iPhone OS
also apps are better for iphone
hello i'm using the official latest rom from the HTC site...i have a problem with the hardware keyboard...what happens is that when i'm typing, the characters take too much time to appear on the screen and many(almost always) times characters are missing and i have to retype them...when i bought the phone it had hyperdragon III and the problem was the same but without the part "characters missing"i have tried 5-6 other roms and the problem is still not solved...does anyone know how to fix this?i am 99% sure that there is no hardware problem from the keyboard cause that would mean that some certain letters in the keyboard are broken...but in my case it happens on random letters every time...thanks in advance!
Moved as not ROM Development.
Try the speed increase .cab in this .zip
The hardware keyboards are notorious for going wrong on Kaiser.
thanks for the advice...i installed both cabs and then did a soft reset...the difference is not big and the lag keeps going but the characters missing issue got a lot better...stil not perfect...thanks so much...
That's cool glad it helped, good job you got a Tilt or your keyboard would be messed up as the other .cab is layout for keyboard Like i said the Kaiser is notorious for the keyboard gettin bad, mine i have about 5 keys i have to stomp on with thumb
really starting to feel like i have to get rid of this phone...it has so many good things but sometimes i forget i have a phone and feels like i have a really old crappy pc which freezes all the time...maybe it's the time to buy an HD2
HD2 would be nice "mind you think i'd get a Rhodium for keyboard", i use Raphael as no contract still better than Kaiser especially now have me own custom ROM rockin away
yeah i know...the keyboard is why i bought the kaiser from the first place...i had a samsung f490 and i couldn't stand it...everything was touch...i had to press a combination of touch buttons to answer a call!imagine me driving my car and trying to answer my girlfriend on the phone...so i traded it for a laptop and bought a kaiser...the reason i am going for an HD2 is because it's the fastest...i wish they could make a keyboard version...that would be really nice!
also have the lagging button syndrome! sometimes letters missing, sometimes duplicates and other times it hangs and makes 3messages full of a single character, so frustrating! now my 'g' button is broken and 'n' and 's' also dont work. but at least i have the screen keyboard to use! otherwise i love this phone! better than any other brand!
the problem is that this isn't a hardware problem...it's software for sure...sometimes the phone freezes...i'm pressing the same button like a million times and nothing happens...at that time the touch controller doesn't work either...and after some time like 5-6 seconds the phone is accepting input again like normal but with lag and with characters missing...i recall that the cabs provided solved the problem...maybe it was a coincidence or something...if it was a hardware problem i would buy a new keyboard and voila all fixed but that's not the problem...many times it misses my touch commands and even more times i have to press the power button to put the phone to sleep state and then press it again to wake it up in order to let me use touch commands again...really nice phone but not for me...i will go buy a practical phone with 60-70 euro which never freezes and doesn't even have wifi or bluetooth but at least i can type a freaking message without have to try 5 minutes to write 160 characters...i use messages a lot...like 2000-3000 messages every month and the full keyboard was the reason why i bought this thing...now it will be the reason to sell it...