Gprs, edge, hspa, 3g?!?!?!?!? - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone,
was just wondering if anyone knows the difference in speeds of all the different types of connections available for the diamond2, i know that gprs, edge, hspa and wcdma/umts are available but which is the best
Hope someone know the answer to this!

HSDPA7.2>HSDPA3.6>HSDPA1.8>EDGE>GPRS
in Taiwan,
GPRS just like modem, yes , that modem you try to connect to internet 15years ago.
and HSDPA3.6 just like ADSL modem , download about 200~300kb

Yesterday I ran a speedtest on my mobile (another phone then the Diamond 2) and I reached 651KB/s. Not that bad, and I know it was something around GPRS, since that phone doesn't support faster. Then I used the SAME site on my computer and I reached 893KB/s. Great that this is so fast!
EDIT:
It was EDGE (I just checked online what the top speed of this phone was, Samsung E900).
To test it, get your phone and go to this URL:
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed

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Problem with internet Communication

Hello All,
I have a problem with my kaiser, it started i think 2 weeks ago. I have vodafone (netherlands) with a data connection account (hsdpa). Now is the problem that i can't use umts (3g) or hspda. The only thing i can use is gprs. It looks like the modem or something is broken. But that is a kind of weird because (if i understand correctly) its al the same chip (wifi and so on). When i open internet explorer it begins to connect a gprs, 3g data connection. But it can't connect, than you can see a X by the synchronisation arrows (on the top of the screen). And after a few secconds it comes with a message that with the current settings there can't be a data connection. But if seen other messages as well ( the modem on the other side disconnected the connection) The weird thing is that i tried my sim card in my friends kaiser there it works fine, so it have to be my kaiser.
Ok what i tried:
I have a dutch htc kaiser (not vodafone branded or anything)
I use the latest dutty rom, but i tried the orriginal rom and different roms to see if the problem was the rom or something.
When i let the 3g mode on i can see that the phone finds a 3g connection (to call over umts).
Is there any program or tool or something so i can test the modem?
Or does anyone know a sollution for me, i will be very greatfull!!
Ok i tried a other radio to, maybe this was the problem. But it didn't, at this moment i have the default htc dutch rom (who was on the phone when i got it). I searched the net for the same problems, what i found was that this error could be happening when you have your wifi connection open, but i have wifi disabled. The phone is still receiving a 3G connection, but after a few secconds the 3G icon is gone and the failed synchronisation icon (two arrows with an X) is visible. than you can see that the phone is reconnecting. and then if i want to connect to the internet the same story as above is happening.
When i search internet i couldn't find an tool to test the chip/modem.
Because i have it spl unlocked i can't return it for rma, is it posible to restore the default spl?
Hi,
unfortunately I have the same problem with my Kaiser. I have an unbranded German version and it worked fine with all bands (GPRS, EDGE, UMTS(3G) and HSDPA) but since two weeks ago its only working with GPRS and EDGE mode. I have to change band-selection from AUTO to GSM in order to make or receive any calls.
I didn't do any ROM flashing, everything remains the same as the device was shipped.
I assume, that something is damaged but I have no idea how it could happen or how I can find out exactly what is causing the problem.
Since there is still warranty I'll return my Kaiser soon.
seems to be a widening problem
hi,
it seems many have the same issue, see my other posts for linkage to some other threads on it...no solution yet as far as I can tell.
rich
p.s. moderators any chance to link these threads and make a sticky?
ok, thanks for your reply. I've allready found another thread for that issue. But im still uncertain if its a bug in my device or a combination of a bug with a provider specific (Tmob Germany) problem or if its only the provider to blame for??
Chris
I have a slightly different problem. I don't have 3G in my area but only EDGE. Now the problem is that I cannot get speeds higher than about 80 kbs with EDGE.
Now when I put the same SIM in my Touch I can get speeds upto 200 kbs. So obviously this is not a problem of my service provider but rather something wrong with the device.
I have repeated the trial by swapping SIMs a number of times but with similar results all the time. Really don't know of a solution. Will appreciate any help.
haven't seen the edge problem
hi,
my edge speeds seem to vary more by location...I measure up to 200+kbs but have seen it go much lower too. there is a location where I can still get 3G working and i measured up to 1.7mbs for downloading! At my home location it is sporadic edge only and I can't even always get to speakeasy.com to test it, sometimes the speedtest says its not licensed..switching to wifi and it works. My guess is some needed ports are getting blocked by at&t at times..because sometimes it works. I brought all this up with at&t..they are taking some charges off this month and switched me to a cheaper plan too...so they at least seem to care even if they can't quite fix things yet.
rich

3G not working with HTC shipping ROM?

Firstly, let me thank everyone who does all the SUPERB work on this site, developing software, ROMs, and tools that us normal users would otherwise never see...
Here's my problem:
I got a Kaiser with the shipping AT&T ROM on it - I'm in the US.
I wanted to get rid of the bloatware and other crap that AT&T puts on the device, and take it back to an HTC ROM.
The problem is, I can only connect to the EDGE network, and I'm only getting 40-60k transfers - I know that with my Samsung Sync (my previous phone) I was getting 1.3-1.5Mbps using the same site to test (http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed)
Is this a limitation within the HTC ROM? If so, does anyone know if newer HTC ROM's (perhaps even with WM6.1) will fix this problem, or do I HAVE to use an AT&T ROM to access the 3G (HSPDA) network in the US?
Thanks in advance for your time!!!
Do you see the icon 3G and it changes to H once you're accessing the internet? If no, you might want to check if you correctly config the connection.
I myself don't trust http://text.dslreports.com/mspeed when it runs on PIE web browser. I did the benchmark on 2 different types of connection, at&t HSDPA and Verizon FiOS* Wifi, and it comes up nearly the same speed 1.3-1.5Mbps.
*I have 15 Mbps download package.
Yes, it DOES do that (Mr President...lol)
What site do you prefer to test the speed of your 3G connection? I was hoping to use Speedtest.net, but doubt that they support mobile.
So, I guess that you're saying my connection is probably just fine, but that the site is problematic?
Thanks for the quick reply, btw!!
- Mark
I don't pay attention too much on speed. But, there are many ways to confirm that you're connected to 3G network.
If the answer is yes for any question below, then you're 3G.
a. Tethering internet via your PC on "internet sharing" mode and make a call at the same time.
b. Stream any audio broadcast with bitrate above 196Kbps.
Enjoy.
Um, where do you live? Pretty much only the major cities have 3G deployed, and even then, it's no guarantee. I live in Minneapolis where 3G was rolled out last November.
Lidberg said:
Um, where do you live? Pretty much only the major cities have 3G deployed, and even then, it's no guarantee. I live in Minneapolis where 3G was rolled out last November.
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I'm in Pittsburgh - I know for certain that I'm in 3G territory, as I just got the Kaiser a few weeks ago, and before that, was using a Samsung Sync tethered to my laptop, and getting 1.3 - 1.5 MBps....
UPDATE
Must have had a lousy signal where I was trying it before - I tried it again, using the same site, and was getting 500-600k - so I guess it's hitting the 3G network, but for some reason, changing the 3G icon to an H, presumably indicating HSPDA.
All's well...can one of the mod's please lock this thread? Thanks!
- Mark

Only UMTS/HSDPA possible?

hi!
Is it possible to configure my htc kaiser (mda vario iii, t-mobile) to umts/hsdpa only? I'm thrown into edge after some seconds very often, although I can use hsdpa with my notebook. I don't need the kaiser for talks.
Thanks!
HSDPA will only happen when in selected areas due to the fact that the signal is slowly being rolled out. Also this will only appear when an active data transfer is in place if everything has loaded on a website for example it will either return to edge, gprs, or 3g until a data stream is opened again
Oh, i forgot to say: I'm in germany and here are a lot of areas where you can use hsdpa. For example, here where I am. When using my UMTS-USBStick i'm also thrown into EDGE, but if i select "use UMTS/HSDPA only", I can use HSDPA.
When I go online with the Kaiser, the "H" is shown, and I can surf very fast - but after a few seconds, I'm in the slow EDGE-net.
The problem: The signal-strength of the EDGE-net is better.
The solution: Deactivate EDGE-net on your device. But how? ^^
Thanks for your help!
In that case as far as I know there is no way to physically disable a signal being recieved by your phone (other than flight mode of course)
In all honesty I think that no one would be able to put together an app that would cover this
Im happy for someone to prove me wrong though
Ok, that's not good, because I don't even get 50kbit/s stable with edge. But thank you for the information.

Introduction and silly question about "H" vs. "3G"

Introduction
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Hi all: first time poster, long-time lurker here. I'm thoroughly impressed with the level of discourse and amount of knowledge and information on these forums and the associated Wiki pages. I'm still a total newb when it comes to SmartPhones in general, but I'm trying to climb the steep learning curve as quickly as I can.
Background: Have 2-week old AT&T Tilt phone with AT&T voice and data coverage. Have experimented with a few different shipped and cooked ROMs, and have settled on the BRR-HTC-2.0 Lite ROM. It's basically a barebones version of the latest HTC Shipped ROM, and I have installed the following programs:
HouMing File Explore Extension
HTC TaskManager
Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
HTC Connection Setup
Microsoft Live Search
Google Search
Opera 9.5 Beta (IE is still default browser, though)
Adlobe Reader LE 2.0
Vicsoft ClearTemp
Cyberon VoiceCommander
HTC QuickGPS
HTC Home
Jblend Java
TCPMP
Skunkworks FlashVideoBundle
Silly Question
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Am I connected "correctly"? With the out-of-the-box AT&T Rom, my connection "bars" had a "3G" on top of them (as long as I was in a 3G zone, of course!), and the data connectivity icon also showed a "3G". Now, both areas show an "H" where a "3G" once was, and although I'm pretty sure everything is fine, there's a naggine though that something isn't right.
I tested my download speed at CNet's Bandwidth Speed Test and got a download speed of 374.9 Kbps. Does this sound about right for the AT&T 3G network? Should I be concerned that something is wrong?
- DDB
It used to say 3G and only H when it was transfering data and shortly after. Now it says H all the time in most areas. It also used to say 3G AT&T for the network name when 3G was available but now it just says AT&T. They must have changed the network somehow.
The "H" icon stands for HSDPA. It is an upgraded standard of the 3G network. Basically, you are using 3G, but your phone is letting you know you are in a service area that supports HSDPA - this is a good thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
Thanks!
Thank you both for the quick feedback. Sounds like I have nothing to worry about.
I'm also now having issues with connecting to my mail servers, but I'll save that question for another thread.
Thanks again!
DDB
xconradx said:
The "H" icon stands for HSDPA. It is an upgraded standard of the 3G network. Basically, you are using 3G, but your phone is letting you know you are in a service area that supports HSDPA - this is a good thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
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Actually, what I've heard is that H indicates HSPA.. The phone still registers 3G if the area only has HSDPA, but when it also has HSUPA, combined being HSPA, it shows H.
So do speed tests ethered via USB, let us know the results.. Make sure you test downlink and uplink of course.
Test Speeds
When people mention test speeds, how is that accomplished? I have gone to online speed test websites via my tilt, but I continually see "via usb". Is this using the internet sharing and a laptop? Thanks for the help!

[Q] vodafone uk 3g issues?

Having slight issues with my note on vodafone Uk, whenever I try to browse the internet and the 3g sign in status bar shows weboages don't load at all, when the H is showing bam they load really fast, and even when the E is showing they load but slowly, which is to be expected with edge. So why wouldn't it be loading when on 3g? Have I got some setting wrong on the phone?
HSDPA is faster than 3G.
3G (3rd Generation of Telecommunication Standards) is a standard of cellular connectivity which allows for speeds of up to 384 Kb/s downstream and 64 Kb/s upstream. 3G HSDPA is a 3G enhancement. HSDPA (High-Speed Downlink Packet Access) is a new mobile data protocol and is sometimes referred to as a 3.5G. Theoretically, HSDPA speeds can reach 3.6 Mbps downstream and 348 Kbps upstream. But the purpose of putting both on a smartphones is to make sure that your phone get internet access even when the other one is not available or have no access
possibly an issue with vodafone, have you contacted them to see if there are any issues?
as for the above post, totally irrelevant and hsdpa wil lgo alot faster than 3.6
Richy99 said:
possibly an issue with vodafone, have you contacted them to see if there are any issues?
as for the above post, totally irrelevant and hsdpa wil lgo alot faster than 3.6
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Yeah they seems to think my sim card needed resetting, but hasn't made a difference, still does it. Hopefully someone has the same issues with a work around searched the net for hours, with not effect. The other weird thing is if its stuck on 3g and not loading I usually disable data on power button menu then er enable and H usually comes back and it works again, even if I turn it to GSM only in network setting, so Edge is only possible it works fine also just takes ages to load any pages which is annoying!
how long you had the sim card? it might be a provisioning issue with it
You think? Well I've had it a few years now like, 3 I think.
Vodafone SIM card works fine in my Note (SIM free from Germany).
I'd suggest try your SIM card with a different phone and try a different SIM card in your Note if possible to see if the fault is with your SIM card or Note.
P.S. Are you using any custom ROM? Could be a problem there.
No I'm on stock rom kka, yeah sure its something today with network or sim card, just rang them to get a new similar. Hopefully that will sort it out.
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Fixed my issue, turns out it was happening a lot with people who have the galaxy s2, needed to enter code *#301279#, and release 5 hspa only, then disable fast dormancy mode on the phone, now I'm getting fast 3g everywhere :-D
It does say 3g and not just g?
if youre in the uk and only getting edge or gprs it may not be the phones fault.
I had a similar issue, we all assume we can get full 3G everywhere, not necessarily.
To solve this you need to buy the Vodafone sure signal box, it basically plugs into your home broadband router and then transmits full 3g around your house to whatever numbers you register on the box, including dongles.
The whole family can use it as you can register 32 numbers into it.
Cost about £50 new, i have a BNIB never been used or taken out of the box new one here, up for sale as it happens for £25.
Anyone interested should PM me....
Or you could just use wifi as you are at home anyway.
As I said sorted the issue it had something to do with the phone locking into search for hspa, and not reverting back to 3g when there wasn't any hspa signal. Apparently its a problem Samsung are working on. But the little fix of only scanning for 3g works for now, and I did a bandwidth test on hepatitis, and 3g, and 3g was actually faster. So not bothered.
Great find bud u should start another thread explaining the steps in a guide cause this is great info for Vodafone UK users
Sent from the HD2's closest replacement, the Samsung Galaxy Note

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