HTC has released a hotfix for resolving difficulties finding or locating a position when using GPS for HTC Touch Diamond...
You can reach the hotfix from following link:
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=133&cat=0&dl_id=569
I hope this hotfix solves the diamond gps lag.
Did someone tried?
pinttas said:
I hope this hotfix solves the diamond gps lag.
Did someone tried?
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Tried to installed but hotfix says it is not compatible with my device. May have to wait for the diamond ver or if someone here can change the package to work with any device ID
I ran this on my sprint diamond and sprintnav still works, except I found another problem unrelated, sort of.
Hi,
just copied the file to my device (XDA Diamond - Stock Rom) and it works without problems. I think it wont work with custom roms.
I just noticed that the i get a fix very fast. Other than that, i didnt tested if the lag is gone, but why it should be. The fix is only for getting a faster GPS Fix. It isnt a fix for a lag problem.
cu
tomahak
tomahak said:
Hi,
just copied the file to my device (XDA Diamond - Stock Rom) and it works without problems. I think it wont work with custom roms.
I just noticed that the i get a fix very fast. Other than that, i didnt tested if the lag is gone, but why it should be. The fix is only for getting a faster GPS Fix. It isnt a fix for a lag problem.
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tomahak
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If anyone with a stock rom can install test and report back, i think we would all be interested. BTW it says on the HTC site that it fixes the 'lag' (if it does woohoo)
I installed the fix on BsB 6.5G Black ROM (no need for original ROM). I can't really say that it helped reducing my satellite fix time. Before installing I had sat fix in about 1 min (cold start) and now it took like 1.5 min. But it seems like more stable (doesn't loose fix like it did sometimes before). On the other hand, warm start is lightning fast, taking about 5 seconds to get a fix.
Didn't test it yet for GPS lag. I will report back in the afternoon!
"This hotfix is not compatible with your device"
Running Shaks 4.30 with radio 1.09.25.23
weird or weird ?
Bad news. The lag of the gps stills on. But the sat fix time is better.
By the way, I have an official 2.03.410.2 ptg rom.
It´s funny that in my old official 1.37... rom the gps worked fine without delays. But now it has 30 mt of delay.
I´ve tried all the com ports in the hardware and the better is 9.
Yes would be fine if we had a cab ..... im still unable to install the fix
pinttas said:
Bad news. The lag of the gps stills on. But the sat fix time is better.
By the way, I have an official 2.03.410.2 ptg rom.
It´s funny that in my old official 1.37... rom the gps worked fine without delays. But now it has 30 mt of delay.
I´ve tried all the com ports in the hardware and the better is 9.
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Hi Pinttas,
I have a lag on my GPS. I haven't tested different ports. Does it make much difference? Do you know why it might?
Röchelhilpert said:
Yes would be fine if we had a cab ..... im still unable to install the fix
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WinRar is able to extract content from the Exe, it has a cab layout in fact. From what I can see, it installs "CleanGpsData.exe" with a link to it in \windows\startup (the link didn't seem to be installed on mine by the way).
The cab has a setup.dll, I can't be sure it doesn't adjust any registry settings or else, but it doesn't seem to.
Hi mitsi,
the ports are the whay the software comunicate with the hardware.
I have a big difference between ports, +-30mts.
In the com ports nr 3 and 7 I cant get sat. the 2 is the worst and 9 the better.
I don´t now if is the same for all. I think it depends on the rom you have.
pinttas said:
Hi mitsi,
the ports are the whay the software comunicate with the hardware.
I have a big difference between ports, +-30mts.
In the com ports nr 3 and 7 I cant get sat. the 2 is the worst and 9 the better.
I don´t now if is the same for all. I think it depends on the rom you have.
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Hi Pinttas,
Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out on mine.... I hope I can find a better port!
I still have the same lag, i still can't use my paired BT Nokia headset and the GPS at the same time (witch i could in the nokia n73). it's a little bit faster the fix, but not as much.
I tried this and have found the fix to be faster, as others have reported. Funnily enough, my Tomtom has no lag but my Igo8 does..... Weird.....
pinntas - you are right about the ports. On some I don't get any connection at all. The others don't seem to be much different though. I think Ports 4 and 9 seem to be the most stable on mine.
wuub said:
"This hotfix is not compatible with your device"
Running Shaks 4.30 with radio 1.09.25.23
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Same goes here...is there any other way to install the fix..
No good for fixing GPS lag...In fact, the lag bacame even bigger. I uninstalled the patch...
What do you set the baud rate to? It should be 9600
somebody please put it in a .cab
thank you very very much!
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just wondering if some of you that upgraded from a trinity to a Kaiser are happy with it.. Was thinking about getting one.. have been trying an iphone, but the lack of good pda features is killing me..
so i've been looking at getting a kaiser, but without a lot of nice cooked roms out yet and stuff, i was just wondering what you guys thought about it.
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just wondering if some of you that upgraded from a trinity to a Kaiser are happy with it.. Was thinking about getting one.. have been trying an iphone, but the lack of good pda features is killing me..
so i've been looking at getting a kaiser, but without a lot of nice cooked roms out yet and stuff, i was just wondering what you guys thought about it.
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I will take the Kaiser anytime over the trinity, save the bug of the bulk updates on the GPS system.
Just using the stock ROM and add on the softwares that I need, and its great.
The response is faster than the trinity.
The GPS system is definitely a lot faster. Can get fix almost immediate.
Not sure about the peeling off issue will happen to Kaiser. Just got mine for few days.
racerx_ said:
just wondering if some of you that upgraded from a trinity to a Kaiser are happy with it.. Was thinking about getting one.. have been trying an iphone, but the lack of good pda features is killing me..
so i've been looking at getting a kaiser, but without a lot of nice cooked roms out yet and stuff, i was just wondering what you guys thought about it.
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Hello my friend, I have changed to HTC Tytn II, and man what a big change, loving the new one and not even missing the trinity a bit, the Kaiser is for sure a keeper, its a show piece, high quality material finish, no peeling issues, keyboard with a lovely tilt, GPS is outstanding; by the time you start the nav app your gps is fixed , and not forgetting the big space in both ram and rom, I do recommend the Kaiser to everybody, and would always look forward to see a Kasierguides.info by racerx_
Yep - I was a Trinity owner and for me , I got really frustrated at not having a proper keyboard - solved with the Kaiser!!!
Plus it has a lot more memory available, especially with a cooked ROM..
Cheers
John
I also upgraded my Trinity to Kaiser, and I fully agree with taiseer999.
He forgot to mention the Trinity MiniSD issue with disappearing files and stuff. the Kaiser dont have this issue at all.
The down side for me in compare to the Trinity is the size and the weight, and also the BT Headset sound. but other than that, all perfect for me.
helllo....
i'm using trinity before i get brand new htc tytn II.For me,htc tytn II is better than trinity in all department.Because of that i sold my trinity.
For Iphone i had too for a week,but i cant compare those two devices because there build for different purpose and differrent os,but the two of devices is good.....
cheers
Kaiser feel very solid when compared to trinity. But the weight difference is quite big. But love every moment with it. GPS connection is definitely faster. Haven't tried cook rom yet since the ROM/RAM size is double of trinity.
Keyboard is good but with new software keyboard like touchpal. Hardware keyboard is no longer a necessity.
thanks everybody for the feedback.. very helpful. Sounds like no one's looking back...
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Hello my friend, I have changed to HTC Tytn II, and man what a big change, loving the new one and not even missing the trinity a bit, the Kaiser is for sure a keeper, its a show piece, high quality material finish, no peeling issues, keyboard with a lovely tilt, GPS is outstanding; by the time you start the nav app your gps is fixed , and not forgetting the big space in both ram and rom, I do recommend the Kaiser to everybody, and would always look forward to see a Kasierguides.info by racerx_
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hey... taiseer.. didn't know you'd jumped over to Kaiser-land!! haha.. well, you're definitely making me think of getting one.. not sure about the weight, but otherwise maybe it's the phone for me.. we'll see about kaiserguides.info haha.. but we need 1) me to get a kaiser and 2) a lot of good chefs and yummy roms..
will update you.. guess i can sell the iphone and the trinity and snag one..
what was that mentioned in an earlier message about GPS batch updates? i didn't follow that..
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what was that mentioned in an earlier message about GPS batch updates? i didn't follow that..
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the GPS stream does not come in smoothly like the trinity, but instead, it comes in bursts every 8 seconds or so.
The updates on voice navigation is therefore somewhat delayed at times.
Sometimes, it can tell me to exit at the intersection ahead, where I have already passed it.
This is with the bundled R12 Mapking (for asia), and Mapking 2007 (retail).
hangyong said:
the GPS stream does not come in smoothly like the trinity, but instead, it comes in bursts every 8 seconds or so.
The updates on voice navigation is therefore somewhat delayed at times.
Sometimes, it can tell me to exit at the intersection ahead, where I have already passed it.
This is with the bundled R12 Mapking (for asia), and Mapking 2007 (retail).
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There is a software update for R12:
http://mapking.com.sg/download/MapKing R12/TyTn II/TytnII_Setup_MapKingR12.zip
For MapKing 2007, you can use GPSproxy + Mapking to improve the refresh rate.
shihyong said:
There is a software update for R12:
http://mapking.com.sg/download/MapKing R12/TyTn II/TytnII_Setup_MapKingR12.zip
For MapKing 2007, you can use GPSproxy + Mapking to improve the refresh rate.
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well, HTC Asia has confirmed that its a bug, so they should solve the problem, although there are workarounds.
Until that happens, its still a bug in their ROM.
hangyong said:
well, HTC Asia has confirmed that its a bug, so they should solve the problem, although there are workarounds.
Until that happens, its still a bug in their ROM.
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MapKing R12 has already solved the slow refresh rate issue with their latest update.
i've been wondering.. what's the difference between R12 and 2007? i use mapking 2007 and am pretty happy with it...
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MapKing R12 has already solved the slow refresh rate issue with their latest update.
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you see, using the R12 that comes with Kaiser in the Trinity, there is absolutely no problems at all.
Using the same version of MK2007 on Trinity, there is no problems at all as well.
From what I can comprehend, its the GPS multiplexing software that is causing the problem in the Kaiser.
The R12 fix you are talking about most probably reroutes the signal by bypassing the multiplexer, directly to the GPS COM port.
This way, if you have 2 GPS softwares running at the same time, the 2nd software cannot work. e.g. R12, and GPS photo.
But anyway, since HTC has acknowledged that its a bug, I guess its good to let all know.
sorry this is still confusing me. Is there a problem with gps bursts or not? I thought you said there was, now saying there's not??
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sorry this is still confusing me. Is there a problem with gps bursts or not? I thought you said there was, now saying there's not??
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the GPS signal/stream comes in bursts every 7-8 seconds, unlike in trinity, where its updated frequently.
Since you are using MK2007, you should see that the GPS stream is updated smoothly in it.
what this cause is that your location is updated whenever the burst comes in.
So if you are driving, and it tell yous to "exit at the intersection ahead", you may have already passed it.
I used the EXACT same copy of MK2007 on both trinity and Kaiser.
Trinity ok, Kaiser NG (bursts)
Using the EXACT same copy of MKR12 from Kaiser on trinity, its ok, but when you install it on Kaiser, you get the bursts... and you need to use the updated version on the Kaiser to workaround this issue.
Matrix:
------------MK2007-------MKR12------
Kaiser -------NG------------NG-------|
Trinity-------OK------------OK-------|
So to me, its a problem, and HTC acknowledged that its a bug.
Hi, I'm hoping someone can help me with this. I've got a UK T-Mobile Vario III.
I've updated my ROM and radio a couple of times and have now discovered that my GPS isn't working. To try to fix this, I've reverted to old ROMs and radios but nothing seems to get the GPS going again. When I load up the GPS Tool and click open, no messages appear in the window at all. I seem to recall that when my GPS was working, messages would appear as soon as I clicked open, even if I was indoors and there was no chance of a signal getting through.
Radios I've tried are: 1.27.12.11 (my original radio), 1.27.12.17 and 1.27.12.32.
So it seems as if the GPS hardware is dead at the moment. Can someone suggest something that I can do to fix this?
Many thanks in advance!
I had a hiccup with the GPS lately. I installed and ran "GPSTest" and it helped sort things out for me
It may take 3-30 minutes to get a HDOP score (as mentioned in the linked post), but at least you'll know your GPS receiver is functioning properly.
mdh
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783504#post1783504
Thanks for your replies. Something is definitely wrong as when I run GPS Test, it scans the com ports numerous times and then gives up and tells me the GPS is off. This is so annoying!
start gp test.start your navigation prog.go to gps settings,go to built in gps,use manual settings, use com 4, baud 4800.go outside then try.this worked for me
ive used this on tmobile and o2.both devices are now working fine with gps.
Download Franson GPSGate. It will force start the GPS. You can start & end sessions with it at will pretty much. It's also great because it allows you to use many GPS programs at once.
If you can't find it PM me & I'll upload for you. It's free to use in standard mode w/o internet tracking, server connections, etc...
I think there must be something more fundamental wrong. I've installed GPSGate and when I selected "wired or in built GPS", it is unable to find anything. It looks as if I'm going to have to get this repaired unless anyone has any other ideas...
Have you tried running uickgps to give the gps a kick start?
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Have you tried running uickgps to give the gps a kick start?
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Yes, I've tried QuickGPS but no joy. But because GPSGate can't even detect the hardware, I think it's more of a problem than just not being able to get a fix. It's almost as if the driver or something isn't working.
You may want to check all the registry entries for the GPS. There is a link at the bottom of the Wiki that lays them out for you.
Having done hard resets and also reflashed the ROM, I don't think it can be a registry problem. Pretty sure it must be a hardware problem so it looks as if I'm going to have to get it repaired :-(
Clutching at straws here but could it be down to the fact that I flashed Schapp's WM 6.1 to the phone? I notice that a number of official 6.1 builds require a newer radio so perhaps flashing Schapps changed something else and now (even though I've gone back to 6.0) GPS will only work with one of the newer radios?
i have the same exact problem and it also started after i flashed schapps wm 6.1!!! ekhh did u find any solution?? thanks
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i have the same exact problem and it also started after i flashed schapps wm 6.1!!! ekhh did u find any solution?? thanks
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Exactly same problem here. I flashed Schapps 6.1 ROM and the GPS is DEAD. I'm thinking about sending it in for service.
Anybody has any ideas?
the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky
omaralt said:
the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky
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Strange that yours works with 6.1 as the other posts all seem to have the same problem with the GPS completely dead. Sounds as if the 6.1 flashes to a part of the ROM that the 6.0 ROMs don't flash to. Surely must be reversible, I'll post a message in the Schaps 6.1 thread. Fingers crossed...!
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the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky
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Omaralt, you da man. Worked perfectly. Even my miomap works this time with schaps 6.1 rom (which it previously didn't). Thanks a lot.
omaralt said:
the only solution i was able to find is to flash to schaps 6.1 rom. the gps now works fine. i guess once u flash to 6.1 ur gps will only work with 6.1....this should be a sticky
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I don't think that this is true - I flashed several WM6.1 roms (and their radios), ending up with Sleuths, but after a while I noticed that it took considerably longer to get a GPS fix.
I returned to Duttys v4 with radio 1..27.12.32 and GPS is working fine and gets a fix as fast as before.
I don't know what the original problem was but in general I found it took longer to get a fix for all WM6.1 roms.
Dutty seems to have a 'team' of great beta testers helping him with his roms and I'm sure that one of them will notice this with his current private beta roms. If so then expect a fix soon.
its not about taking time, when i open up any of the gps programs (gps fix, etc), it doesnt even find the gps! it scans all the com ports, and when it gets to com4 the gps light comes on, but then it scans the other com ports and then tells me no gps found. if i put teh settigns on com4 it'll spend a few mins "looking for gps device" and then say gps off. by upgrading back to 6.1 it works now...
Try a other RADIO ROM
I think it has all to do with the RADIO ROM....
Hey everybody, problem is as follows:
Installation works without problems, and after disabling HTC Home it starts properly. Everything seems to work fine, but after a few minutes of navigation it crashes! Screen freezes and no input is possible. Only way to get out is a soft reset.
does anybody have an idea how to solve the issue? would be thankfull for every suggestion!
by the way, I use Dutty's latest ROM [Jun 07] (Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588)
greetings!
ok... it's even worse now!
i uninstalled and reinstalled IGO8. and now it doesn't even start up anymore. well it tries to. the starting screen shows up, and it starts processing. but at some point the whole device (kaiser) just collapses and starts up completely new!
please! someone tell me whats going on!
First: Search in rom tread
Secound: Post rom related question in rom tread (yes this is rom related)
This issue been discussed in about every new build tread since Duttys april 29 hybrid. You will find youre answer in V1 tread, and before you flip. Its normal, youre kaiser isnt dying
Just desactivate AGPS :
Edit the registry HKLM/Software/HTC/SUPL AGPS/
Set 0 to EnableAGPS key.
Restart your kaiser, relaunch IGO8 and enjoy
DrQ is half-right...
You also need to disable HTC-Home if you're under WM6.1 AFAIK.
thanks for your answers...
even though I'm quite new to all of this, I found out myself that aGPS and HTC have to be disabled. I did both, but the problem exists. that's why I posted.
raiisak, thanks for your comment! I think you're also talking bout the aGPS and HTC-home disabling "fix" ... cause I looked over the Dutty V1 thread more than once without finding an other post concerning this problem...
I guess I will just do what Dutty did: going back to his APR 29th build. That one was stable and everything worked without problems. also I share his opinion that 6.1 sucks.
regards!
No.. iGO8 crashes like *crazy* on my stock ATT Tilt (shipped ROM/Radio/etc). If it doesn't crash it locks it up and I have to poke the reset hole.
I'll try disabling AGPS to see if that helps.. I don't have HTC Home installed, although I did a while back.
khaytsus said:
No.. iGO8 crashes like *crazy* on my stock ATT Tilt (shipped ROM/Radio/etc). If it doesn't crash it locks it up and I have to poke the reset hole.
I'll try disabling AGPS to see if that helps.. I don't have HTC Home installed, although I did a while back.
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AT&T Stock with Bloat? Cause th bloat really makes the Tilt suck.
As long as HTC Home isn't running. Igo and HTC Home share a file. But like twin brothers they don't share it well.
You need to dump dutty
I wasted hours of my life getting iGo8 to work with my Kaiser. Unfortunately it's a bigger problem than just uninstalling HTC Home (if you can) and disabling A-GPS.
In the end I dumped Dutty and flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release by Laurentius26. This solved all the problems. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400118
Only thing that doesn't work with this ROM are custom keyboards (SIP), such as PCM Keyboard. Apart from that iGo8 works a treat
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I wasted hours of my life getting iGo8 to work with my Kaiser. Unfortunately it's a bigger problem than just uninstalling HTC Home (if you can) and disabling A-GPS.
In the end I dumped Dutty and flashed L26_Kaiser_Diamond_V8_light release by Laurentius26. This solved all the problems. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400118
Only thing that doesn't work with this ROM are custom keyboards (SIP), such as PCM Keyboard. Apart from that iGo8 works a treat
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best solution so far, flash to this rom just to test, deactivate aGPS AND EVERYTHING RUNS GOOD SO FAR
sampcyn718 said:
best solution so far, flash to this rom just to test, deactivate aGPS AND EVERYTHING RUNS GOOD SO FAR
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Of course lol... it does not have HTC Home included.
You have to disable HTC Home, and disable A-GPS to get iGO8 to work under WM6.1.
cartonneexpress said:
thanks for your answers...
even though I'm quite new to all of this, I found out myself that aGPS and HTC have to be disabled. I did both, but the problem exists. that's why I posted.
raiisak, thanks for your comment! I think you're also talking bout the aGPS and HTC-home disabling "fix" ... cause I looked over the Dutty V1 thread more than once without finding an other post concerning this problem...
I guess I will just do what Dutty did: going back to his APR 29th build. That one was stable and everything worked without problems. also I share his opinion that 6.1 sucks.
regards!
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I run IGO8 with Dutty's Diamond V1 without problems (if I disable HTC Home, that is). The reboots have something with either the legality of your IGO8 release, or with the fact that you dumped to many POI files in the POI directory (i.e. all available countries). In Dutty's Hybrid V2 this was not an issue, and it must have something to do with memory management in the Diamond ROM.
@mb: different ROMs work best for different people, no need to be a fanboy.
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AT&T Stock with Bloat? Cause th bloat really makes the Tilt suck.
As long as HTC Home isn't running. Igo and HTC Home share a file. But like twin brothers they don't share it well.
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As mentioned in this thread, AGPS fixes it. Very odd. iGO has some quirky bugs.. This one I would consider a MAJOR bug, but oh well.. Another bug I noticed (and is on their website in the FAQS) is that their timezone/system time from GPS functionality is hosed.. Always wind up with the time on the PDA being GMT. Have to fiddle to get it to set the time right then disable that functionality or disable it and fix it in WM.
Otherwise, it seems to work well enough.. Wish I had 3d/buildings here to look at, but otherwise the maps look pretty nice with parks and such outlined. Still looking into how to add my own POI's without some silly .net gui in Windows to do it.
Demokiroxx said:
Of course lol... it does not have HTC Home included.
You have to disable HTC Home, and disable A-GPS to get iGO8 to work under WM6.1.
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Just to be pedantic; AGPS is a problem in WM6.0 as well. WM6.1 may require the additional step of disabling HTC Home.
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Just to be pedantic; AGPS is a problem in WM6.0 as well. WM6.1 may require the additional step of disabling HTC Home.
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No. IGO8 works with HTC Home in Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid V2. It really depends on the OS version in the specific ROM, be it WM6 or WM6.1.
Tried the rest and went back to the Best. Duttys April 29th Hybrid is staying on my tytn2 now . Dutty will be missed here.
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No. IGO8 works with HTC Home in Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid V2. It really depends on the OS version in the specific ROM, be it WM6 or WM6.1.
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Missed the "may" part huh? Or got hung up on the 6.1 part? I suppose I shouldn't have even mentioned WM 6.1.
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Missed the "may" part huh? Or got hung up on the 6.1 part? I suppose I shouldn't have even mentioned WM 6.1.
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I guess you were just too pedantic ... but you're right, I think I missed the may part. Regards.
Hi,
I've updated my kaiser with the original wm6.1 update from htc.
Since then it takes forever to get a fix. Once i have one the signal is as strong as before.
It takes over 10 min to get a fix if i even get one at all...
I use TomTom v6 (032.8351) as navigator using the build-in receiver option.
QuickGPS is always up-to-date so that's not the problem.
Is there a way to test the gps hardware and/or settings?
CoolCow said:
Hi,
I've updated my kaiser with the original wm6.1 update from htc.
Since then it takes forever to get a fix. Once i have one the signal is as strong as before.
It takes over 10 min to get a fix if i even get one at all...
I use TomTom v6 (032.8351) as navigator using the build-in receiver option.
QuickGPS is always up-to-date so that's not the problem.
Is there a way to test the gps hardware and/or settings?
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Same here, does the GPS really use the QuickGPS update? It seems it uses really old definitions or something. Does a custom baked ROM, like a Dutty rom, fix this prob?
Has either one of you disabled AGPS (Assissted GPS)?
Yes, it is disabled here.
bio88 said:
Yes, it is disabled here.
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Did u ever use app like gpstest or gpstool? they are very helpfull in "kicking up" the gps signal.
Where can i get this?
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Where can i get this?
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gpstest is a freeware, u can get it in P1Taters "storage", he has got it in his signature(its in cabs/a must for me).
Or try to google it.
AGPS is quite different, it's disabled by default in most ROMs including the new 6.1 update, no surprise there.
QuickGPS is separate and should be working, and indeed appears to be working just fine, but for whatever reason the data is collects just isn't being used by the GPS in 6.1 ROMs. This has been discussed here at length (search for "hopeless GPS") and there's no solution in sight. Some claim not to have the problem, for others it's all too obvious. We can all get quick fixes from time to time, but the consistent reliability from the old 6.0 ROMs is completely gone in 6.1.
Every registry tweak, "GPS test" and radio change suggested here has proven to be a placebo so far - I'm just waiting (forever, probably) for a patch from HTC.
The same problem is also mentioned in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397728 I hope that someone will find a solution...
Sorry guys, but after sofreset I get first fix after 1-2 minutes and after that when I launch iGO I get a fix after some seconds(10-20).
Boinng said:
AGPS is quite different, it's disabled by default in most ROMs including the new 6.1 update, no surprise there.
QuickGPS is separate and should be working, and indeed appears to be working just fine, but for whatever reason the data is collects just isn't being used by the GPS in 6.1 ROMs. This has been discussed here at length (search for "hopeless GPS") and there's no solution in sight. Some claim not to have the problem, for others it's all too obvious. We can all get quick fixes from time to time, but the consistent reliability from the old 6.0 ROMs is completely gone in 6.1.
Every registry tweak, "GPS test" and radio change suggested here has proven to be a placebo so far - I'm just waiting (forever, probably) for a patch from HTC.
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For you maybe. Mine seems to work flawless. Every time I try, it works.
BTW, AGPS is not always disabled. Yes it is different but it might be interfering with the GPS software. It did in one of Dutty's roms i beta tested for him.
@ everyone else. Here is some cabs that might help speed up GPS Locks. Keyword is "might".
GPS Test >>http://www.4shared.com/file/39878866/6000e5dc/GPSTestppc.html
Quick GPS >>http://www.4shared.com/file/41184769/2d4081af/HTCQuickGPS_1_00_919717_01.html
Schap's Quick GPS >>http://www.4shared.com/file/39881509/516514c3/Schaps_QuickGPS_1_00_17201933_00_WWE.html
GPS Tool >>http://www.4shared.com/file/36654853/c713bfd1/Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.html
Mikulec said:
Sorry guys, but after sofreset I get first fix after 1-2 minutes and after that when I launch iGO I get a fix after some seconds(10-20).
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Congratulations?
I can sometimes get first fix after 1-2 minutes, the problem is that other times (seemingly at random) it can be 5, 10, 15, or 20 minutes. Without properly functioning QuickGPS, it's basically luck of the draw.
Once you've had a lock, the data is retained for some hours (unless you reset) so subsequent fixes will usually be fairly instanteneous, even for me. None of this really helps.
Like I said before, some people claim not to have the problem, some of them may even be right, but unfortunately for others the problem definitely exists, and nobody's put their finger on the cause.
P1Tater said:
For you maybe. Mine seems to work flawless. Every time I try, it works.
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Great. This definitely proves my GPS is fine after all. Thanks for all your help.
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@ everyone else. Here is some cabs that might help speed up GPS Locks. Keyword is "might".
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Keyword is "placebo". Running a different GPS app before the actual GPS app you want to use doesn't actually speed anything up, it just makes it seem like you're "doing something". All software like GPS Test does is open a port to your GPS and try to get a fix - do you think TomTom doesn't do that already?
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Like I said before, some people claim not to have the problem, some of them may even be right
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So, those that don't have the issue are liars? Good luck figuring it out. I don't feel like having this argument on whether or not mine is working. Childish in my opinion, so I'll just move on. I believe it's quite ignorant to insult those that have tried to help whether by posting cabs or possible advice
@ everyone else, I posted some links to some cabs that might help or might not. I hope they do help those that indeed need it and not those that just want to complain. Good luck.
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So, those that don't have the issue are liars?
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Yes of course, they're damned dirty liars, all of them.
Or they've misunderstood the problem.
Or they've just tried their GPS for the first time in weeks and gotten a reasonably quick fix, just like any of us (myself included) could have done on any random occasion (consistency is the key in this).
Or they're running a completely different ROM/Radio and haven't really been paying attention (that wouldn't be you would it?)
Point is, I'd strongly encourage anyone genuinely experiencing this problem not to bother even reading this thread, just get onto HTC for a fix. All the potions and pills being suggested here are a waste of time; they've all been tried, and they don't work.
I believe it's quite ignorant to insult those that have tried to help whether by posting cabs or possible advice
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Bully for you. I believe it's quite ignorant (not to mention bloody irritating) to come onto a thread about a problem you've obviously not experienced, and try to suggest that problem doesn't exist, or that we won't have already tried all the most blindingly obvious fixes for it. But ce la vie.
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Or they're running a completely different ROM/Radio and haven't really been paying attention (that wouldn't be you would it?)
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Yup, that's me. I ignored all issues reported and used a different rom/radio combination to try and fix the issue. Oops. BTW, I never once stated the problem did not exist, as I know it does for some. You stated those that say they are not experiencing the problem are mistaken.
All I can say is that my combination is working for me. I use GPS at least 3 times a week and I always get a fix in under 20 sec. Dutty's June 8 rom and radio 1.58.25.17. Yes, this rom does have issues, but the issue's that it does have do not pertain to me as I dont use the apps that the issues involve.
OMG, this thread is going in the other direction that was supposed.
U try to help him and u get a slap in the face instead of simple THANK YOU.
Nice attitude man.
I know, jeez, isn't it? Crikey. Just goes to show. Who'd have thought it.
Anyway, if you've updated your HTC Tytn II to the new WM 6.1 update, and have been experiencing erratic GPS performance ever since, please do contact HTC Support at their website (www.htc.com) and register a bug report there. That's the only way we're all going to get a fix. Thanks!
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I use GPS at least 3 times a week and I always get a fix in under 20 sec.
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You get a fix in less than 20 seconds after a cold start of Gps? This is exactly the problem i'm dealing with WM6.1 roms. I can't get a fix in less than 2 minutes (cold start) and i have tried many 6.1 roms and many radios. In WM6 roms i get a fix in less than 20 seconds. Can you please tell me which rom do you have installed in your Kaiser? Thank you
Edit: Please give me a link for this rom you are using. Thank you
Thanks for the tips.
I'll try the tools, see if that dous anything good, otherwise i'll send a verry irritated e-mail to htc.
Btw, has anyone tried other navigation software like iGo, MioMap or Destinator?
Same problems?
And if there is no way to fix it for now, is it possible to downgrade to the original WM6?
A hard reset won't bring it back to WM6 i gues?
Hotfix for resolving difficulties finding or locating a position when using GPS for HTC Touch Pro
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570
klabton said:
Hotfix for resolving difficulties finding or locating a position when using GPS for HTC Touch Pro
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570
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Nice find bro, thanx, doen't seem to be compatible with 6.5..well, well, I guess M$ is still a bit behind....
bauerpavel said:
Nice find bro, thanx, doen't seem to be compatible with 6.5..well, well, I guess M$ is still a bit behind....
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I've had no problem with WM6.5 RomeOS, but my friends on pdaclub.pl had some problems too.
It's strange. Maybe it works only for non branded HTC phones? I've got mine from expansys.
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I've had no problem with WM6.5 RomeOS, but my friends on pdaclub.pl had some problems too.
It's strange. Maybe it works only for non branded HTC phones? I've got mine from expansys.
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Hm, running latest NRGZ 6.5 and tells me something about the fix not being compatible with my device. It's pure HTC not branded. Nevermind, after reading setup.xml of this fix seems like what it does is clearing gps data from memory. It installs cleangpsdata. All this does to my knowledge is deleting ephemeris data before re-downloading new ones. You should be able to do the same with HTC GPS tool and dowloading new data with quick gps....If so, let me please have a good laugh at HTC support team ..if this all they have come up to satisfy all of us strugeling with gps from day 1...I have no words
Why don't they hire some of the chefs here at xda to make perfect devices?.....
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Hm, running latest NRGZ 6.5 and tells me something about the fix not being compatible with my device. It's pure HTC not branded. Nevermind, after reading setup.xml of this fix seems like what it does is clearing gps data from memory. It installs cleangpsdata. All this does to my knowledge is deleting ephemeris data before re-downloading new ones. You should be able to do the same with HTC GPS tool and dowloading new data with quick gps....If so, let me please have a good laugh at HTC support team ..if this all they have come up to satisfy all of us strugeling with gps from day 1...I have no words
Why don't they hire some of the chefs here at xda to make perfect devices?.....
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Says it's not compatible with EnergyROM 2.0, WM 6.1
Hmmm... I am using NATF's Rom so I don't have any GPS lock issues my self...
I wonder what this file does though?
U tried it,but it doesn't seems it helps. Still unable to use the GPS. I start to thinking,that the GPS receiver in TP is just a "something more" on the paper for dealers. For GPS I use my Toshiba G710 with SirF3 chipset and it's uncomparable.
This update doesn't give me any inprovements
Have no problem before but after doing some tweak found on http://blog.mohdimran.com/2008/11/htc-touch-pro-gps-problem-tweaking.html the problem appear. I then re-flash it with NRG energy rom 2.0 41609. The problem disappear. I guess what didn't break don't fix it for my case.
Most, if not all of the newer roms have the aGPS feature fully working, which works to eliminate the problem of not getting a GPS fix.....i e the RRE roms