Help wtih Rooting/App2Sd/Hero - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok, i just bricked my previous G1, i guess due to ****ing up when puttin a SPL wtf that is on there the incorrect way. So i was wondering what i could to to avoid bricking the phone if i ****ed up on the SPL agian like a back-up or recovery or sumthin.
What im trying to do is
Root
Apps2SD
Cupcake
New Hero Rom
I dunno if i have to do any of those in order or what.
Lil help would be nice!

,,,,,,,,,,,,,0.o

TheWerd said:
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Let me be the first to tell you that you've failed to receive a response because you didn't read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480521

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[Q] I need help from the radio and the spl!

I want to use Haykuro ROM 6.0r1 but I need help from the radio and the spl!
What do I do first how do I do it?!?! Please help me! thanks
Adidas Reborn said:
I want to use Haykuro ROM 6.0r1 but I need help from the radio and the spl!
What do I do first how do I do it?!?! Please help me! thanks
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You need to install the radio first, then the SPL. I HIGHLY suggest you do some reading before you attempt anything. Once and IF you brick your phone, there is no going back.
search for it. its all over the place.
i know that but i was hoping someone could help me on here and i have read many ways of doing this i was thinking about updating the radio first and then erasing that then putting on the spl what do i do to keep it from bricking lol i have already bricked one but i think i did the spl first
calm down and read bro
the information thread on this forum explains it all beggining at getting root access (DONT SKIP STEPS TRUST ME I KNOW) after i got all the way too rc33 from jesus frekes rom (found on the how to obtain root thread) then i updated the radio found at the htc website and then new spl(just type in new radio + spl) its alot prolly will take you a couple of hours
start out at how to obtain root - if you have that already then get the new radio from htc website and then get Hspl from one of these threads started by Haykuro
i know its tuff to get help all ppl wanna do is tell you to search without even giving you an idea
If you have already bricked one device i would suggest you stop modding your phone. Or maybe just search and actually read the forum.... (hint: there is a big sticky called "helpful thread", that may be a good place to get help)
i know what your saying i have all this done but i have trouble figuring out the spl lol. when its done do i click home and back or do i take my sd out and put the haykuro's 6.0r1 rom?
Adidas Reborn said:
i know what your saying i have all this done but i have trouble figuring out the spl lol. when its done do i click home and back or do i take my sd out and put the haykuro's 6.0r1 rom?
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flash spl leave it there dont touch the anything take the sd put it in your computer if you have a card reader throw in the rom - put the sd back in your phone flash the update.zip and your good
if anyone wants to challenge my instructions feel free
ok since you dont wanna search. hit home and back. let it finish writing the spl before pulling the battery. you have to reapply a rom afterward so have a sd card reader handy....
please don't make another thread if you brick your phone. this thread is in the wrong section.
Adidas Reborn said:
i know what your saying i have all this done but i have trouble figuring out the spl lol. when its done do i click home and back or do i take my sd out and put the haykuro's 6.0r1 rom?
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sorry about all this im a noob to the web site.
Adidas Reborn said:
I want to use Haykuro ROM 6.0r1 but I need help from the radio and the spl!
What do I do first how do I do it?!?! Please help me! thanks
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I personally would advise against using Haykuro's ROM. It's totally nothing against Haykuro at all, it just seems to me that you need to add more files to your system than any other ROM, which obviously provides a higher chance of bricking your phone, which I also have read as happening when doing so.
I would suggest you try Cyanogen's ROMs. There are links to all that you'll need in my signature if you decide to do that.
Agreed. If I were you i'd mess with the spl you have for now. Once you're comfortable flashing roms and themes and doing other mods to your phone then maybe, just maybe take the plunge. You'll notice a lot of people want to try the "new spl/rom" combination but, when it comes down to it most revert back to a different rom. Browse the forums for a minute and look at sigs. A lot more seem happy with JF's or cyan's rom. The larger roms are "cool" but just not meant to run on the G1/Dream.
Before doing anything do it like six times on paper, compare one provided solution to then next to make sure they jive, read past the solution a few pages to see if something was left out a later added to the thread(sometimes the OP doesn't update their post). Learn the terms and what they do
Also on the you're still a noob front, if you wish to rise above that some research is required. Questions are good and can help in a pinch but for general info (the stuff you should know before attempting to mod anything) it's more productive from a learning point to figure out the answer for yourself. I'm not just saying to search then copy/paste, but research and get an understanding what your doing. If you have no clue what you're doing then even when given an accurate solution there's still a good chance you will do something wrong.
Heh, not trying to flame ya, just help ya become a better modder. The spl and radio are core components of the G1's software and can easily get you into trouble. Roms on the other hand are an easy fix if fubar'd. Good luck..

baq to RC29

hey i flashed the dreaimg.nbh file because i wanted to revert baq to stock
is this all i have to do. ive checked out the threads for it and they just say to flash this file and u will get an ota soon
i juss wanted to make sure it was tru. im on RC29
stock from this and hoping i get an OTA soon
You flashed DREAIMG.NBH to a phone with Haykuro's SPL? I've read that would brick a phone. Evidently not.
Anyway, yeah - if you flashed DREAIMG.NBH and are now on RC29, you're all set. Just wait for the OTA.
Saiboogu said:
You flashed DREAIMG.NBH to a phone with Haykuro's SPL? I've read that would brick a phone. Evidently not.
Anyway, yeah - if you flashed DREAIMG.NBH and are now on RC29, you're all set. Just wait for the OTA.
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b4 i flashed the DREAIMG.NBH i flashed g1 original boot loader into it. but ive done it on haykuro's alot. never bricked. i think its because haykuros spl prevents from brick and the NBH file replaces the SPL to original also
chrisag92 said:
b4 i flashed the DREAIMG.NBH i flashed g1 original boot loader into it. but ive done it on haykuro's alot. never bricked. i think its because haykuros spl prevents from brick and the NBH file replaces the SPL to original also
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Exactly. Both the SPL and radio are reverted back to stock so you shouldn't brick your phone. I've done this with mine and it didn't brick and I was able to re-flash the Radio/SPL, no problems.
h.nocturna said:
Exactly. Both the SPL and radio are reverted back to stock so you shouldn't brick your phone. I've done this with mine and it didn't brick and I was able to re-flash the Radio/SPL, no problems.
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wen did u get the OTA? how long it take
chrisag92 said:
wen did u get the OTA? how long it take
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The time is variable for each person as the network might only check your phone version every few hours and it might take till the next cycle for the OTA to be sent to you (I honestly don't know as I have never used the OTA and I'm on AT&T so it would've never been sent to me regardless). I, didn't use the OTA, I only reverted because there was a problem with my phone that necessitated the temporary downgrade. However, shouldn't take more than a day.
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The time is variable for each person as the network might only check your phone version every few hours and it might take till the next cycle for the OTA to be sent to you (I honestly don't know as I have never used the OTA and I'm on AT&T so it would've never been sent to me regardless). I, didn't use the OTA, I only reverted because there was a problem with my phone that necessitated the temporary downgrade. However, shouldn't take more than a day.
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oo okay hopefully i get it soon
chrisag92 said:
oo okay hopefully i get it soon
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Or, you can search for the T-Mobile OTA if you're in a rush, I think its somewhere on the developer's forum. Use search, don't open a new thread, they will hate you for it.

Advantages of 1.33.2005?

I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
xsnipuhx said:
I'm wondering if there are any advantages to having the Haykuro SPL 1.33.2005
I've done some research and found out how to flash it(yes I have PVT), but not much information on if its worth risking it. I know it would allow me to run Hero and whatnot and Cyanogens?
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You can run Cyan on HardSPL or even the stock SPL. You only need the Haykuro SPL for more internal storage space for the OS in the phone, which allows for bigger ROMs to be used. It will also give you adequate space for whatever you may want on your phones internal memory
Well I am running HardSPL atm, but Hero kind of intrigues me and I wouldnt mind trying it out. But if really doesn't help out that much, I guess I'm going to stick with my setup right now. ty B-man0007
Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
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Its not a big risk. If you have everything done correctly, it should work without a hitch, I've had to install it twice because I've had to re-root my phone once after flashing RC29. Its no big deal really. You only read more of the one with broken phones cuz they're the only ones who say anything. The vast majority of people who do not brick their phones just don't announce it so publicly, but if you look at most people's sigs, you'll see that they also have Haykuro's SPL.
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I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
xsnipuhx said:
I thought if you tryed to downgrade from this SPL that it would brick your phone? and about the sig thing, yes I have noticed that as well, and I kind of want to jump on that boat.
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Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
B-man007 said:
Its only if you downgrade the radio that a brick could occur (not sure how upgrades will affect it, which is why I haven't upgraded yet lol)
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You sir make a good point, I think I'll be staying at the HardSPL then.
If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
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If you flash RC29, it replaces your radio and SPL so it doesn't brick your phone. From there you merely reflash the radio, then the SPL. Not sure about radio upgrades... I don't even see a radio thread that most other phones have, which is why I'm not so worried about upgrading radios, I've stuck with this radio for... months, which is longer than I've ever stuck with a radio on my Touch Diamond. Still, its your choice, but... TouchFLO is very pretty...
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Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
Haykuro's SPL is my favorite, because all that extra space makes things run much faster, on top of giving more room to Cache's if you have Apps2SD. Big time themes also fit onto it, and if you follow instructions closely, should have no problem installing it.
xsnipuhx said:
Stop teasing me!! lol Let's see how much money I win at poker tonight and that will decide
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I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
h.nocturna said:
I only tease you because I'm helping you. Once you go JACHero, you don't go back... its just so pretty... *drools*... Unless you're a speed demon freak in which case, as lurk said above me, also speeds up your phone when you use Cyanogens
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I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
lukekirstein said:
I've NEVER been able to get any JacHERO build to go anywhere near fast...which is a bummer, it definitely is very pretty . It should speed up your phone for any matter, just because of the extra room. It's like RAM on your computer; the more you have of it, the more space there is to use and make things faster!
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I'm running JacHero 2.5 w/o Rosie and my friend is using Cy and he was the one that pointed out myne may be even faster and he on Cy 3.6.7.2. That was from his mouth not mine. Not to mention There's now a go around to make sure you get EVERY text message on Hero so you never have to miss another one again
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
xsnipuhx said:
so if i was to flash the danger SPL with what im running right now, i have the 261 radio, it wont brick? then i will have to reflash my cyanogens right? and just out of curisoity i know the rom doesnt need swap but does the spl?
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If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
AdrianK said:
If you have the new radio and a PVT board you should be fine. Boot up holding camera and power and check if you have a PVT board. The new spl allows you to install roms like Rogers, Hero and the Sapphire. So unless you want to change from cupcake builds you will be fine without it, but it is nice to have. So yeah just make sure you have the new radio and you will need to reflash your current build afterwards. Good luck!
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Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
you can still brick your phone even if you do everything right
xsnipuhx said:
Yep I do have the PVT board, so I know I should be good with everything, ill just read the Fix the SPL thread or how to install in jacheros thread. and if anything happens....well GG OTA update yesterday?
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It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
I'm actually in the middle of backing up my SD card and setting up another SD card with the SPL update on it then I'm going to flash it. put the cyanogen rom on my partitioned card and hope everything goes smooth, ill report back when I'm done. Anyone know how to flash my EXT2 partition so i can start fresh?
ei8htohms said:
It's hard to say how much risk there really is, but Cyanogen bricked his replacement phone trying to flash the "Danger" SPL about an hour after unboxing it and um, the guy knows what he's doing, you know?
I flashed it within a couple hours after Haykuro first posted it and luckily didn't have a problem, but if I had waited until everyone started bricking I might not have been so eager. It's definitely a roll of the dice, but that's part of the fun, right?
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haha ya as soon as i heard cyan bricked it i wouldn't touch the dangerspl. thats when i stopped reading all the threads to insure i didn't get a brick lol
but he did flash the dangerspl after people said that it wouldnt flash with his recovery just to test it... so theirs still a chance i might do it lol
please note that there are apparently different versions of the 26I radio. Make sure you flash the one haykuro posted for safetys sake
Should I wipe before I flash the Radio and stuff from haykuros google page?

Which SPL?

which spl is the best to use?
im rooting a new g1
I don't know why you would ask seeing as you have experience with modding already.
HardSPL if you don't want hero
Danger SPL if you want hero.
evilkorn said:
I don't know why you would ask seeing as you have experience with modding already.
HardSPL if you don't want hero
Danger SPL if you want hero.
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well didnt know what the difference was but now i know its just with all these bricked g1s by the danger SPL but i guess i'll try my luck 1 more time
as long as you have the new radio it won't brick, if you're using cyanogens recovery remember to physically press alt-s, home+back, don't use the trackball. That goes for radio and spl, not roms.
AdrianK said:
as long as you have the new radio it won't brick, if you're using cyanogens recovery remember to physically press alt-s, home+back, don't use the trackball. That goes for radio and spl, not roms.
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i cant use cyans recovery since the download is unavailable since the good C&D letter >:[
AndroidFiend said:
i cant use cyans recovery since the download is unavailable since the good C&D letter >:[
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even his recovery has been removed?! Check your PM's in a few minutes ;-)
AdrianK said:
even his recovery has been removed?! Check your PM's in a few minutes ;-)
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i need it too
i was gonna switch to cyans rom from haykuros when the next stable version came out
The recovery may be effected by the C&D because of nandroid. Cyanogen removed everything until the details are provided by google.

OMG I just flashed my SPL Before my radio >.<!!!!

I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
what radio did you have? if it was the latest radio to begin with, you are all good. if not, you probably screwed the pooch
Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<
Why is it that every other day someone starts a new thread on bricking their phone?!?! SEARCH! Either way you have a brand new paperweight...I suggest to all that brick their phones...DON'T MONKEY WITH IT! Get a new phone and stick with stock. Cheers
Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
matthenry87 said:
Old radio. I was in the process of rooting and thought to myself, "Oh better update the SPL" damn I'm an IDIOT!!! I knew better!!!! >.<
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matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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You should return that phone anyway, the Nexus or some new andro with snap dragon will be released or maybe phone with sense?
Seems you lack common-sense for doing what you did. When you think about it that spl is only for spec roms, so things like cyan dont need it.
bestwebs said:
Hi,
Did you already root your phone and flash a modified recovery?
Then copy your firmware to a sdcard as update.zip and you should be able to flash from recovery.
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Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.
matthenry87 said:
I just got a new phone from T-Mobile to swap out for my defective unit and I just flashed my SPL before my radio!!! I fuxxed up!!!! Is there anything I can do!????!!!!!??????
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i tells you what you can do. this worked for me. i did the same **** on my replacement g1. i said "when i got the replacement it was running 1.1. i was prompted to update, and i did so. when the phone rebooted it never went past the g1 screen. u have to make big stink about this
i did that and they shipped me one next day air. being that that was the third replacement they sent me within 1 week, and i never had to make an embarrassing thread about bricking my phone
Thanks b0ricuaguerrero that makes me feel a lot better about the phone call I'm bout to make to T-Mobile.
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P
matthenry87 said:
Why does every thread have big-headed flame-whores who just need to feel superior to others?? We all make stupid mistakes and I knew better than to flash the SPL before the radio. I had a stoner moment I guess you could call it. I haven't used a stock rom since I bought the phone when it came out and I don't plan on using one in the future.
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I agree. I very nearly bricked my phone when first I flashed the new spl. Back then, I was using the old CM recovery (where you had to rename to update.zip), and flashed the update, then renamed the spl, and was about to flash it, but then something told me to double-check... and I realized that the first update I flashed was not the latest radio, but was, in fact, a different update.zip. I was one click away from brick. The thing is, you don't have to be an idiot to brick when you play on XDA.
matthenry87 said:
I was also thinking.. maybe Armon could add something to the confirmation process of the flash and if the file is *spl*.zip it would remind them they absolutely must flash their radio first. I know some of you might proceed to flame me more, but that probably would have been enough to remind me. Then maybe these brick threads would pop up every week instead of every day XD
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You SHOULD suggest that idea to Amon-RA about the reminder for anything with spl in it. Sounds stupid, and sure, idiots shouldn't root their phones, but they do. It would certainly help keep the forums cleaner.
matthenry87 said:
I did however post my thread in the correct section though! =P
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Thank you, times a million, for not posting in Development!
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
pjcforpres said:
Dude, if you flash the danger SPL before the radio you can't get past the G1 screen, ie can't get into recovery, fast boot, anything at all! Hence it being the most notorious way to brick's one's G1.
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bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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He flashed the spl BEFORE the radio, that always causes a brick, no questions asked. If you flash the spl wrong you cannot get into the OS, Recovery, or Bootloader- essentially you have a very nice paperweight that has a very nice screen
bestwebs said:
HI,
Actually it depends on the mother board in the phone also.
That could be why he can't get into recovery mode.
I was able to get into recovery after flashing the danger spl 8 months ago.
So it can be done sometimes.
Exactly what does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
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And what exactly does your comment add toward helping this member revive his phone? Nothing.
OP, really am sorry to hear you made a mistake you knew better than. Hopefully you can get T-Mo to replace it for you using the "failed update" method.

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