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Hi,
I just bought my Kaiser 4 days ago.
I am using the bluetooth adn an SDHC card.
My problem is, following: the batter goes every day empty! I unplugged from the charger 4hours (I was using the phone for one our), and the batter is on 34%.
Do you have the same problem or my batter is wrong?
tnx:
Adrián
Wow, really fast battery drain.
No, I dont have that fast drain.
Do you use data connection all the time? Wi-fi? 3G?
Backlight? Power off when device is not used ...
Worth to check.
I switched off the online data connection and the 3G..
I jut pulled off the SDHC card for testing the battery...
I hope it will help..
How often do you charge the battery, and how long do you use the phone per day?
It depends ... between 1 or 2 days ... and I usually charge when it is at 30% - 50%, during evening.
And I use 3G for browsing the internet for now and then randomly also MSN/Yahoo chat.
I suggest to hard-reset, and run your phone without any app installed.
Then see the battery drain.
big source of battery drain for me was the WiFi and the push email.
I have also noticed the battery drains pretty damn fast. Much faster than my wizard it would seem. I am slowly disabling things to see if I can find the source. Otherwise I am calling HTC and getting a new battery.
Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Nope - no bluetooth - no push email. Its very wierd.
sorry i was referring to the OP
I am using the Spb GPRS Monitor.... Does it need extra battery power?
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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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I think that is not correct. Bluetooth hardly has any influence on the battery drain.
You can leave it on for ever.
But do a test yourselve.
1. Load the battery 100 %
2. Set bluetooth on or of and put your baby to sleep for 8 hours.
3. Check the battery situation in the morning, the first time you start using it. You should, in 8 hours, not have lost more that 4 till 5%.
That is with GPRS and no 3G or HSDPA. I did not test that, but...
You will see that a night with, or without, makes hardly any diiference.
But maybe I am wrong.
My personal experience is that using GPRS ( Phone=GSM only) is the most efficient. Especially if you have Messenger on the whole time.
Huib
Hi
When Bluetooth is on the device will not go into standby even if the screen appears dark as Bluetooth needs the OS to be alive to work, so if you have programs loaded that are using CPU cycles the battery will drain quickly as these programs will run continually.
Regards
Phil
The only thing that I am saying is that my phone, in 8 hours, with bluetooth on, uses max 4% of battery drain. With blutooth off I see no difference.
The phone is in sleeping mode, so people can call me. What else can I say?
So I cannot say that Bluetooth drains my battery faster. At least not visible to me.
I tested did a long time ago with several systems. the last one, before my Tytn II came was on blootooth its whole life. And now again I see the same at my little kaiser.
Huib
P.s. and then this.
I see as standbye the situation, that I only can switch it back on with sliding the keyboard or the power switch. If other keys do not react, is in't this standbye? The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
herpi said:
The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
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How rude!
Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Absolutely.
Huib
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
There is no I/R in Kaiser, and BT standby seems to draw very little. I leave mine all the time, I loose about 5% battery overnight. WiFi is a completely different story, it's a power PIG.
austinsnyc said:
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
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I still disagree.
When bluetooth is just ON and not connected to any device it hardly consums power. (IMHO)
Do a simple test and let it on for a night sleep with and without bluetooth.
When connected to a headset or whatever it of course consumes.
Pls tell me the difference.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305518&highlight=battery
Huib
I have had my TyTN II since Tuesday the 25th - so only 2 days now. I pulled the phone out of the charger at 6:50am this morning. I have WiFi turned OFF (only use at night when I am surfing while watching TV). I have BlueTooth off. I do have BB Connect installed and running with 1 BES account and 3 BIS accounts. I was on the phone for maybe 5 total minutes so far this morning - and I surfed for like 10 minutes via EDGE on the way to work. I do have SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 installed, but from what I read it doesn't effect battery life. I have the unit set to shut the screen off after 2 minutes....and my LCD brightness is at like 70% or so.
With all this - as of 10:35am this morning - I am already down to 75% battery. At this rate, the phone will be dead before 5pm....! Not even a full day.
Man - I hope this gets better because I can't run my life with phone plugged in half the day just so it will last me!
Hi.
I don't seem to last a day without recharging my battery (either by USB or Outlet).
I have some useful programs but I'm afraid to use them sometimes because my phone wont last the day.
On a regular day, without extreme program usage (WiFi, GPS, games etc), just regular phone calls (GSM not 3G), my battery power lasts maybe 18 hours.
If i used 1/4 of my installed programs moderetely, my battery power lasts for about 10-12 hours.
I would like your professional advise to better by battery life.
1. Would changing my ROM to a better modified one solve my issue?
2. Is there a backround process (that is not detected my my task manager) working that I should know about?
3. Are there any tweaks (non registry) that I can do to better the life?
4. Are there any registry fixes that can be done to better the life?
5. Do third party cabs (SPB etc.) drain the battery life even if they are idle?
6. Does letting my battery fully drain and then fully charging it over and over really help the overall battery life?
FYI: I have the OEM ROM, my phone had never been Hard reseted before
I have tried all sorts of things, but I cannot manage to get my phone to last more than a day.
I would really appreciate your advise.
Thanks.
P.S please dont tell me that you people go 2-3 days without charging (that would hurt my feelings )
my kaiser lasts about 10 hours if heavily used, I mean 3G internet always on, browsing with opera mini all while listening to MP3s..
With normal usage and 3G coverage (but classic talks, not video ones) it last al least 2 days..
that's strange
Hi,
i managed to have good power after alot of research and tweaks on this forum.
-disable 3g service
-make sure no application auto-enable wifi, make sure its off.
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
on normal days with just afew calls and very little surfing, i my battery life is the same as other non-pda phones!
boojingyou said:
-make sure device is set lock all buttons
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What do you mean with locking all the buttons?
Would updating my RADIO help?
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Would updating my RADIO help?
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Default ROM sucks. The registry is setup completely ineffecient (like all M$ software) so eats capacity and battery.
Best thing to do is check the 'Kaiser upgrading' thread and compare the radio version you have with what's posted there and see if you could improver performance. I'm still on the original radio that it cam with, but trying multiple Rom's dramatically improved battery life. That and speed and performance. Their is much to gain, my friend.
I advise you read the articles about CID and SIM unlocking before attemting to flash anything.
Upgrade your radio to 1.27.12.17/32, turn off 3G and flash some clean ROM (like Q-Mobile - see in my signature )
My phone can survive now more than 3 days on normal usage. Before it could live 2-3 days max.
Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?
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Maybe can you enable alimentation tweaks with KaiserTweak to begin ?
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I dont think and fixes of those kind will do anything
I think what Maarten_0031 and gabriel31337 say is the obly way. I will reseach what kinda ROM best fits my need and let u know
I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...
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I'm using Schap's and very happy with it...
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On average, how long does your bettery last?
2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !
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2 / 3 days... Some phone calls, wifi and 3G
Much better than the HTC ROM !
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Very nice. I think i might try that.
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Battery Power Poor. Any advise?
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Spell correctly, charge it.
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Spell correctly, charge it.
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You spell correctly and keep to the topic
Just got my Kaiser yesterday. Left it to charge all night and removed it by 7:30 am. At 16:00, battery shows 14% left?!?!?!?
What the heck?
Did all the power tweaks from KaiserTweak.
Lets see how it goes without 3G and with the tweaks I did today.
ROM: 1.81.415.4 WWE
Radio 1.27.15.32
Protocol: 22.51.88.13H
it can't be stated enough how quickly your battery will die if you have your mailboxes checking for new mail 'as they come in' or 'every 5 minutes', etc. if you have important emails your expecting then turn it to those settings, but if you don't care if you get your mail only every hour then go that route - it makes a big difference in the battery life.. also make sure you have the disconnect option in kaiser tweak set on - i have mine set at disconnect after 2 minutes.. and finally, if you can get away with using edge then have your phone always set to edge and only set to 3g for web surfing - pulling down your text based email in edge and not 3g is usually a pretty negligible difference.
on a side note, i bought a 3000mAH battery for about $70.. it improves the battery life a decent amount, but the reality is is that if you use the GPS for 2-3 hours without having it plugged in while using the GPS then you can always expect the battery to be dead by the end of the day (or sooner).. if your going to use it as a GPS then have it plugged in..
its all about wifi...turn it off if not needed.
This has been discussed in many previous threads.
All the above are applicable and also get rid of any fancy today plugins that show data state (WiFi-phone) and battery condition as they are constantly running and polling the relevant devices.
You will see a VAST difference when you do that.
Hi Guys
i've heard that you can turn off the gps which would imply its permantley on, is this true? If so, any one know how to turn it off as I can't find what is probably an obvious menu/option.
I need to turn it off as i am only getting six hours of idle on any charge of my phone - have an extended batt on order and it is using push email (constantly connected) which is a must for me.
No real complaints apart from battery (which was expected and being sorted) and seems pretty good so far.
Oh, anyone else ditch touchflo? Thought it was rubbish myself
If GPS was able to be turned off, how much battery might it save? The difference could be transforming!
I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.
mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?
GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.
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I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.
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Good point
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GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.
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do you KNOW that or are you assuming that?
I know I have seen programs that turn it off just as usual, the search on here has let me down. If this was definetly the case, then why would programs like these be written?
Monty Burns said:
mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?
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Yes, it is a known fact that the Diamond heats up when you are charging it (to levels some may find concerning) but HTC have dismissed this as 'normal operation'.
If it was on all the time you would have an instant fix on where you are straight away .
If it was on all the time your battery would last as said around two hours
I think it is in standby mode if this is what you mean but does need software activation to enable it on as in transmit and receive .
Not sure if turning off standby mode would be a good idea but if you google for the chipset name and have a read up it will let you know these kind of things
Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!
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Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!
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if I do this, then im guessing my push email wont work? .... and maybe i am?
Did any feel that the battery life is getting shorter after S2U2? Mind is almost 20% less, how's yours?
any ideas?
Install it yet. On test now!
Whats S2U2?
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Did any feel that the battery life is getting shorter after S2U2? Mind is almost 20% less, how's yours?
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I have same impression.
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Whats S2U2?
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It's a copy of the iPhone lock screen. It works very well on my Hermes - haven't tried it on my Diamond yet.
I think S2U2 is a great application but I also feel that the battery drains alot faster! So I have temporarily changed it to ThrottleLock to test this out.
yes its a sucker for battery life....! i'd say around the 20% mark too...!
s2u2 is really a big drain on your battery..
My battery with S2U2 drained very fast ... It was able to work for 10 Hours ... So i decided to bye bye S2U2 and never again ... 10% per hour ... this is sick !
Krzysiec said:
My battery with S2U2 drained very fast ... It was able to work for 10 Hours ... So i decided to bye bye S2U2 and never again ... 10% per hour ... this is sick !
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Maybe you should go to the developer threat and search for version 1.21c, this solved my power drain problem,
regards,
Daniel
It might just be me, however i have been using s2u2 for a long time now, and dont seem to have the battery drain. Fully charged at 8am this morning, small phone call download imap email. Left turned off most of the time today, its now 15:00 and the batter is still at 90%. Im sitting in a great hsdpa area in Bath. Wifi is tunred off, turned on for email.
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Maybe you should go to the developer threat and search for version 1.21c, this solved my power drain problem,
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Daniel
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But how shall i install it ? First install not beta 1.21? Then replace 1.21c ? like in manual in single post there ?
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But how shall i install it ? First install not beta 1.21? Then replace 1.21c ? like in manual in single post there ?
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There's a new version out (1.22) you should try this.
Hi guys,
ive had my Z1 for 2 weeks now and it seems like im not having much luck with the battery life. Ive seen the topic where others have shared there battery life and im not getting anything close to those. On average I use my phone for dolphin browser, whatsapp and instagram as well as calling/texting. I know my phone doesnt seem to go into deep sleep much but I cannot work out what it is thats keeping it awak. Ive attache some screenshots from BBS.
Can anyone help and give me some pointers on what it could be? Really dont want to have to factory reset the phone and start fresh again.
Thanks
Yeah too many Wakelocks... Turn of all your keyboard sounds +vibrations in sound settings + turn off google now... Also turn off all the locations settings + GPS etc when not using it... battery life will go up ^^^^
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Yeah too many Wakelocks... Turn of all your keyboard sounds +vibrations in sound settings + turn off google now... Also turn off all the locations settings + GPS etc when not using it... battery life will go up ^^^^
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Ive tried turning location settings off, doesnt help at all. I dont use google now, dont know if its running in the background cos ive never set it up. Keyboard sounds are off and gps is only ever turned on when I use maps.
Any other tips on what I can do?
I don't understand you have 8 hours using and still have 49% power left. should your battery normal?!
mine looks more bad than you but I feel ok.
I have google now gmail hotmail hangouts gps sometime bluetooth all on.
Wow, there's something causing serious wakelocks... Can you try freezing/disabling google maps? com.google.android.gsm is the one, and I believe it's something with google maps... Try disabling/freezing/uninstalling it to at least see if that helps...
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Ive tried turning location settings off, doesnt help at all. I dont use google now, dont know if its running in the background cos ive never set it up. Keyboard sounds are off and gps is only ever turned on when I use maps.
Any other tips on what I can do?
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Get this app DS Battery saver... It forces deep sleep... You can manually add programs which don't cause wakelocks and hence won't be terminated when screen is off.. My battery life was much better with this!
paullu said:
I don't understand you have 8 hours using and still have 49% power left. should your battery normal?!
mine looks more bad than you but I feel ok.
I have google now gmail hotmail hangouts gps sometime bluetooth all on.
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THe phone has been on for 8 hrs, but ive only used it for just under 2 hrs (check screen on time). The rest of the time it should be in deep sleep but mine prefers to sit at 300hz and chew up battery.
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Wow, there's something causing serious wakelocks... Can you try freezing/disabling google maps? com.google.android.gsm is the one, and I believe it's something with google maps... Try disabling/freezing/uninstalling it to at least see if that helps...
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I have just frozen it now, with titanium, and will report back the results at the end of the day.
Sean473 said:
Get this app DS Battery saver... It forces deep sleep... You can manually add programs which don't cause wakelocks and hence won't be terminated when screen is off.. My battery life was much better with this!
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I will install this now. Hopefully I maybe able to work out what is causing this wakelock by manually adding programs one by one.
Thanks for the helps guys
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Wow, there's something causing serious wakelocks... Can you try freezing/disabling google maps? com.google.android.gsm is the one, and I believe it's something with google maps... Try disabling/freezing/uninstalling it to at least see if that helps...
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Thank you for this suggestion buddy, Ive frozen Gmaps and it seems my phone is no longer draining battery. My phone will last a lot longer now and I dont have many google wakelocks. :good:
i dont know why so many website (gsmarena...hint hint) or some of you saying the Z1 battery life is terrible, my z1 battery life can outlast almost twice my galaxy s3, and outloast my htc one, i have been using my phone screen time on for 4hours 53 mins with 14 hours standby i still have 15% left, browsing (wifi on most time, gps off, location service on, bluetooth off, data on), emails, txt, little videos, i dont use stamina mode, it seems drains more battery on than have it off