To all the Dutch Telfort / Diamond users: I have a roaming Icon on my screen permanently. I would like to get rid of it but so far I could not find out how. I have one last idea what might cause the roaming icon to apprear but for that to be confirmed I need your input.
So please be kind and let me know the following:
1: Do you have a SIM card that is from before the Telfort-KPN migration? Or after?
2: Do you see a little triangle in the top bar on your screen? (this is the Roaming Icon)
I appreciate your help. I will let you know if my idea was correct if enough data on sims and triangles gets in.
Thanks,
Chris
1: I have a SIM card long time before the Telfort-KPN migration?
2: And also have the Roaming Icon all the time!
Thanks!!!
Any Telfort users from the Post KPN migration era???
Chris
Come on, there must be more Dutch Telfort people here???
I have a Telfort SIM card from Oct '09 (after the KPN-Telfort migration I believe). Unfortunately I'm also stuck with the roaming triangle icon on my kaiser... would love to get rid of it! Any solutions?
I have a sim from sept 2006.
Always have the roaming symbol.
Did notice that i am roaming since i have the Touch diamond.
I am not able to auto sync my mail because of this! Very anoying!
If you hate the icon so much you can hide it by edit/create
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL "DisableRoamingIndicator" to 1
Söderström said:
If you hate the icon so much you can hide it by edit/create
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL "DisableRoamingIndicator" to 1
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Thanks for your kind answer, had no such value in registry, created it, but no luck.
Same problem here....
1: I have a SIM card long, long time before the Telfort-KPN migration
2: And also have the Roaming Icon all the time!
I have done some extensive research on this topic. It turns out that CDMA phones can get rid of their Roaming Icon by tweaking the registry. That is because the phone contains a list of "freindly networks" and roaming is controled in the phone itself.
GSM phones do not have this database. Their roaming is controled by the provider. Therefore the registry tweak does not work. It is for the CDMA phone.
I have also contacted an unoficial "telfort forum" where a Telfort developer told me that Telfort can not fix this problem on their side. Old SIM or new SIM does not make any difference unfortunately.
The only chance that is left is if someone can find in the registry or somewhere in the phone software the exact place where the phone decides if it is roaming or not and change that in some way to make it think it is not roaming.
Too bad, I hate the stupid Roaming triangle.
Chris thanks 4 the effort! indeed very annoying the Roaming all the time..keep us posted if you find some solutions!
Thanks for this clear explanation Chris, i just started to hate this yellow thingy when i stumbled across this taskbar which makes the icon much nicer and less 'present'
BTW i'm using the Gen.Y D2 R2-Rev.Z NLD ROM on my Diamond which is based on WM 6.1
Credits for the taskbar go of course to Tsowen
To Nirak...
I don't think it solves the issue with the roaming icon. It only makes the icon looks nicer and less present..but I don't like it for example that when i want to send/receive mail i'm given a notification that i'm roaming and if i wish to continue..
Enable email during roaming.
For those of you having problems with email:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings
ShowRoamWarning REG_DWORD 0
And within the ActiveSync Settings:
ActiveSync -> Menu -> Schedule -> Enable "Use above settings when roaming"
Works perfectly on my Benq e72, TP1 and now Omnia Qwerty. (Direct push mail send throu a MS Exchange 2003 SP2 box.)
Thanks a lot SMILEX!..
this string didn't exist, but I created it and it works perfect!!
All those solutions help, but the real solution is still not found I guess. Hope the "list" which triggers the icon will be found one day.... Because it's still quite annoying.
Hey all:
I just switched from Ben to Telfort. I don't get the roaming icon, but I do get an annoying warning every time I start a data-intensive app on my HD2. Telfort says there's nothing that can be done, but Ben is able to use T-Mobile's network without all the roaming warnings. Why can't Telfort use KPN's network without these warnings? It's obviously possible.
I have the same problem with Telfort but on HTC Touch HD
I don't want to get rid only from icon, but also from that my phone think that it is roaming, but it is national roaming, which should be handled the same as home network.
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Hey Guys,
I've upgraded my MDA to the latest firmware from T-Mobile and did the soft-reset trick to avoid the installation of the T-Mobile extended rom junk.
The phone works great but it says that it is roaming even though I'm on my home network. It never did this on the old rom. FYI... the phone is unlocked and is being used on the Rogers network in Canada (which is my home network and where the SIM is registered).
Any ideas?
- Tatusmi
roaming update
Well I've made phone calls to Rogers and T-Mobile and here's the verdict.
The phone is not actually roaming, there is no roaming charges applied, the SIM card still knows where it is; however, the new ROM from T-Mobile is a USA based rom and it makes the phone think it's not on it's home network and therfore display the roaming icon.
Fortunatly, a bug in WISBar hides the icon most of the time so I guess I'll just live with it. If anyone has a solution to get rid of the icon I'd love to hear it though.
- Tatusmi
Although I'm a T-Mo USA customer, my MDA always showed roaming as well (without the extended ROM to disable it) because my SIM is from T-Mo's predecessor, "Voicestream" which had a different MNC.
To fix it, use a registry editor and change \HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\DisableRoamingIndicator to "1" and the roaming icon is disabled.
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To fix it, use a registry editor and change \HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\DisableRoamingIndicator to "1" and the roaming icon is disabled.
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If I disable the icon, will it show up when the phone actually is roaming?
Also, you mentioned without the tmo extended rom software to disable it... will this work correctly with the addition of the tmo ext rom? Is there a .cab we can extract to run on it's own?
- Tatusmi
I've had my Kaiser for 2 days now with no probs. Then today, a nightmare. I cannot make any calls longer than 10 secs. For some reason as soon as i make a call it shows the 3g logo then kicks the call, loses the network connection then gets it back. it also shows the E for edge Icon all the time and its this icon that changes to 3g during a call. It also has the triangle icon all the time, which is roaming. i sure as hell hope im not! all other functions in this device work like a charm-texting, gps, wifi- all work great. Im on fido in Vancouver. This is not a supported handset and so i get no help from them( i dont think the 20 year olds that man the tech lines have a clue anyway). I read that it may be due to an old sim card, is this likely? Any help would be appreciated, im at my wits end, and im starting to think of selling. Help!
P.S.
I dont care about data connection other than Wifi, since the data plans are a joke here. So i dont even want these features active.
Try to switch your phone to GSM only (under phone options/band)
Dag Gammit i think this may have done it! -crossing fingers and testing- will play around with this some more and see what happens. thanks for the suggestion.
Yes indeed ID64, has it right. It's not just this phone that tries to seek the strongest band around, but drops the call in the process.
Changing using settings to GSM only works, but you may be in situations where you want the other bands. You can use the same method to switch back, But you might want a nicer/quicker way using Danielherrero's Bandswitch or Commmgrpro application. He's a member here and you can search here or google. The early freeware version is around somewhere.
Mike
Fido and the roaming triangle
I wouldn't worry about the roaming thing, since all of the towers report as rogers since the network conversion.
Here in Winnipeg I'm always roaming and it has never been an issue. I'm even calling long distance (Calgary?) for voice mail.
I haven't tried it since have the all you can eat data plan for $50. but I vaguely recall seeing in the wizard forum that apparently you can get a cheap data plan through fido if you claim your phone is a HipTop. Worth a try if you want data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1135200&postcount=6
hiptop
Umm, just out of curiosity, does the HipTop thing still work? and what is it exactly?
I am about to get a plan and this one sounds intriging..
I'm on Fido with a Tilt too, works flawlessly with my 8 year old sim card. I'm very interested in this Hip-Top data plan. Has anybody tried it yet? someone definatly should and let us know!
any way to get rid of the roaming notifications so we can enable automatic email downloading? feature will not work while roaming and my FIDO phone is always roaming on my home network. can't find a registry hack for the Kaiser for this.
Fido roaming and e-mail
I haven't found a way to turn off the roaming notification. However you can set up e-mail accounts to automatically download even when roaming. Obviously if you do really roam you will be charged mightily so I would use with caution.
for hotmail (windows live) it's option 5 in the options menu item
for other accounts
-Send/Receive Schedule
-- Advanced Settings
--- Use automatic send/receive schedule when roaming
send/recieve schedule when roaming
hondophred said:
for other accounts
-Send/Receive Schedule
-- Advanced Settings
--- Use automatic send/receive schedule when roaming
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My rom will not let me enable the automatic send/recieve when roaming without FIRST defining a send/recieve schedule. The schedule is inconveniant becuase i don't want the phone to stay on 3G connected 24hrs/day or my battery goes dead. I have it set to disconect 3G after 45 seconds but this only works if the phone is ON. When the phone is in sleep state it will leave the 3G on all the time so it opens up a whole other can of worms/problems. Does your rom let you enable this send/recieve while roaming option without first enabling a schedule? if so, which rom you using?
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
Headroom said:
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
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You mean there is not reception icon, or there is icon but it doesnt show 3G? What it shows then?
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Is something missing??
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Having already read the HTC User Manual for the TyTN II perhaps? If you get the pdf from HTCs website (or even search for it) and have a read, you'll see that in areas of 3G coverage, sometimes the device will display a 'H' which is superior to ordinary old 3G.
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
Headroom said:
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
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Can u post screenshot of your screen? What icons do u have there(on the upper bar)?
You may want to look for something like Kaiser Tweak or something else that disables 3g.. Also you can try tapping on the signal icon at the top and make sure that all the data/3g stuff is turned on at the bottom.
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
Kaiser Tweak = under Data
Advanced config = again, under Data.
Tried it...no joy!
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
Does your sim support 3G?
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Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
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Did you check in Advance config to see if just the icons are turned of ? I believe you can just turn the icons off ( because some people find them annoying ) but still call and connect at 3G speed. Are you lacking speed or just the icons. ?
Let me re-state
I've had this Tilt for about a week, my other cell (Samsung A737) indicates "3G" all the time while I'm at work so yes my sim is 3G. This Tilt has never indicated "3G".
I went to Adv. Config under data connections and enabled everything.
What I'm trying to figure out, is this Tilt unable to detect "3G" or is it a missing icon thing.
IF
1. you have a 3g sim
2. Kaiser Tweak and Advanced config don't have 3g disabled
3. you don't have the "nodata.cab" installed
4. 3G data is turned on in the comm manager
5. HSDPA is turned on in /settings/connections/advanced network
6. All the proper info is set for your connection "media net"
and you still don't have 3g.
I would say at the very least do a hard reset or update your ROM.
Anything I'm missing?
Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
Headroom said:
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
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Hehe, when u have wifi enabled the 3G icon changes to the wifi icon, just try to turn of wifi and see if the 3g,H,E or G icon will appear.
That's a thought Mikulec! Tomorrow at work I will try this. I'm home now & reception here is crap!
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Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
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do some research and you will find all the answers you seak.
Say what?
I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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It definitely could be radio rom issue, but ... I am flashoholic, that means I flash almost every rom that comes out. And on most roms that I flashed the 3G icon changes after some time to the X, but after going to the internet via gprs the 3G appears once again. I dont know why is this happining, there was a disscusion about this, but I dont know in which thread.
The funny thing is although I have the X icon, I am in 3G area and I can make video calls and use the 3G cappabilities. So I dontknow why u can not.
" I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro"
So it's possible that the media net info is incorrect. Also, your simple phone that has the 3G show up is just that, a simple phone. This tilt isn't so simple.
if this link works, download the file and run it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70973&d=1203219889
I don't know why my roaming icon is on?
I'm on Fido in Canada... and I'm in Canada right now, but I don't know why my roaming icon is still on? (The inverted triangle)
Because the X1a is an official USA phone. I have my roaming icon all the time with my HTC TyTN II. My X1a will be delivered 01/19.
Actually, it's because Fido uses Roger's towers now, but the companies are still identified separately and therefore it thinks you're roaming.
I have a Fuze and have been trying without success to disable the roaming icon using the posted registry changes.
ic.
this may sound dumb, but we won't get roaming charges right?
I have the exact same problem and I'm using Fido as well~ Looks like need to swtich to rogers sometime~ Thanks for the info~
jchu said:
ic.
this may sound dumb, but we won't get roaming charges right?
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As long as your phone says Fido, you're not actually roaming and will not get charged roaming fees.
Got my X1a 2 days ago and it shows the roaming icon. Don't worry about it.
Is there a way to get rid of this icon on a SE X1?
I have the same problems (Telfort NL uses KPNs network).
When I'm going abroad I always get a text message saying I will be charged extra for roaming so the roaming icon has no use for me.
I have the Same problem. Im on Fido but I have a an unlocked x1i.
And all my received texts are time stamped -3 hours, anyone else getting that?
ReMix56 said:
I have the Same problem. Im on Fido but I have a an unlocked x1i.
And all my received texts are time stamped -3 hours, anyone else getting that?
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To fix the time stamp, you need to apply a registry fix
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting\
Add a dword key “TrustTimeZoneField” and give it a dword value of 0
then soft reset your phone.
Thanks for the info xda_fanboy. Can you recommend me a registry editor? Im new to modding the OS.
Also, is anyone finding the data connection on Fido really dodgy?? I just got a data plan a few days ago, and sometimes get access for half a day.
Thanks.
ReMix56 said:
Thanks for the info xda_fanboy. Can you recommend me a registry editor? Im new to modding the OS.
Also, is anyone finding the data connection on Fido really dodgy?? I just got a data plan a few days ago, and sometimes get access for half a day.
Thanks.
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Data is fine for me. No real issues to speak of.
anyone find a fix to the roaming issue?
Sadly I have never heard of a possibility to deactivate the roaming icon. There is a way to suppress the warning before sending an sms when you are abroad but not for the icon. Or at least I don't know how to do it.
Hello everyone,
Who knows how to prevent the "triangle roaming icon" from appearing in the systray? My provider (Telfort) got bought by another (KPN) so now all Telfort users "roam" on the KPN network. Is there a regedit I can apply?
I have tried:
1) editting [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting] "ONSDisplayRule"=dword:00000004
2) adding [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL] "DisableRoamingIndicator"=dword:00000001
Or is there some way that I can set my home network to 20408 (KPN) instead of 20412 (Telfort)? Or perhaps even add both as my home networks?
Or could changing my "StoredIMSI" help? It currently displays a Telfort number: 20412xxxxxxxxxx.
Thanks so much!
-Menno
PS I'm using Joshkoss's 6.5 (5.2.21929) on my Kaiser.
Not a ROM issue please post in the correct sub forum in future.
Thankyou.
Mods please move
Think it's in the Start, Settings,Personal, Phone area in one of those tabs you can turn off roaming..
And yea moved you over to general as this isn't rom development.
joshkoss said:
Think it's in the Start, Settings,Personal, Phone area in one of those tabs you can turn off roaming..
And yea moved you over to general as this isn't rom development.
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Thanks for your reply's guys.
I'm afraid I haven't made myself completely clear. I don't want to disable roaming. "Roaming" on KPN is the only way I have a connection as the Telfort network no longer exists. What I want to do is either:
1) trick my phone into thinking that KPN is my home network, or
2) disable the distinguishment that Windows Mobile makes between a home network and a roaming network
Any thoughts on how to do this would be much appreciated! Thanks!
I've got the same problem here and I haven't found a solution either. The problem is that Telfort is a virtual provider using the KPN network, so even your 'own' network is a roaming network, meaning you've got that annoying triangle all the time.
I've heard that getting a new sim settles this problem, but Telfort charges €20,- for this.