do i need new radio to update to HardSPL on fresh ADP? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I want to put a new ROM on my fresh ADP. Do I need to put a new radio on before I update to HardSPL?
This thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532719
seems to suggest I might need to, but this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=455860
doesnt mention it.
How can I find out, or is there a simple yes / no ?
Thanks.

If it is hardspl then no you don't need the new radio. If its the new danger spl then yes. But it is a good idea to update your radio anyways.

Thanks.
danger SPL sounds like i might want to leave it alone...
If I was going to update the radio anyway then is the one in the linked noobs guide above the one? Or are there options? Ive had a dig and although its easy to find the SPLs and Roms and other guides, I havent seen much about radios.

flash the radio http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip

without flashing a new radio then bluetooth will not work in then new rom

Thanks for the help everyone. Thats awesome.

er.... is there a way to check if it worked and what radio it's using? It seemed to be so quick I'm not sure if it can have been right?
It only showed the unpacking animation with the open box and the status bar for like a quarter of a second... and then it went back to the triangle with the exclamation mark in it.
I did Home + back to reboot and its loaded up fine all working. But no clue if it did anything...

To check is real easy,
Look under settings> About phone>
It is listed in the Baseband Version. If it ends in 26I you are all good.

Yea its a small file so it won't take long at all to flash. Sounds like it worked.

Thanks guys.
I used the radio marked as most recent:
ota-radio-2_22_19_26I
Baseband version on my phone says:
62.33.20.08H_1.22.12.29
Doesnt end in 26I... Just spotted that radio is shown in fastboot screen and it lists the old one as well.
Odd.

Wierd, It is a small file and shouldn't take long to flash.
You are definitly on the old radio still.

After you update it should tell you to push a key combination to apply the radio.

Turns out my update.zip was called update.zip.zip ... oops. So it hadnt done anything.
Fixed that and the radio update took a few secs and is working fine. Its listed correctly now as you said it would be in the settings / about screen.
Thanks again for the help folks.

No problem. Might want to show extensions on your pc so it don't happen again.

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Scared to post but I am stuck must take your wrath

Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
xeno1 said:
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?

** PLEASE HELP ASAP!! ** Flash Gone WRONG!

I did the hardspl. Then flashed the radio. After the radio flash, it still brings up the AT&T splash screen, but NO sounds. After that loads up...then I get a all fuzzy screen - NO PICS - bunch of different colors. PLEASE HELP ME. What do I need to do??
flash a radio that's compatible with ur rom
How?? And which one? Im using the stock AT&T OEM ROM. I cant get it to connect to activesync or anything. I get as far as that fuzzy screen I was telling everyone about.
why did you flash just the radio. There is a wiki or something around here that tells you what radios go with what rom.
I thought I was supposed to flash the Radio ROM first...then flash the new ROM. I can get it unto bootloader by using the camera key and the reset hole. Gives me the 3 color screen...I just dont know what to do from this point. I'd rather just go back to the stock ROM and be done.
KEEYA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2061457
So thats going to do it? Ok...PLEASE HELP ME with this next noob question.
This is the ROM I was TRYING to flash to:
Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19199 UC RTM
What RADIO ROM do I need with that? The one that put me in my current situation is:NIKI_Radinly_1.58.16.27_CustomRUU
ChumleyEX said:
why did you flash just the radio. There is a wiki or something around here that tells you what radios go with what rom.
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to be honest, all you have to do is use search and some of the words in your question..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349375
also some people have the radios they use in their signatures. Just look around.
Ok. So I'm downloading the 1.27.12.11 Radio ROM right now.
i'll have to go get a micro SD.
How do I run it from the micro SD in bootloader mode with the 3 color's on the screen? It says serial on the bottom.
I REALLY appreciate your help. I have been reading a lot...its just really confusing to me.
Thank you again for all your [email protected]!
I already posted how to do it with the SD card.
I just re-read it again. Thank you! Now...I'll have to do 2 seperate flashes right? 1 for the Radio and the other for the ROM?
yup, hopefully everything goes smoothly. Don't be afraid to try some of the other radios.
Im afraid to try anything now..haha. i just want it fixed then I'm leaving it alone. Obviously...I'm WM-Retarededed
Neh, you just had a bad first time. It gets better with practise. READ READ READ.

notification light

I searched around the forums (LOVE THEM!) and couldnt find the answer so I figured it was okay to ask the question
The notification light on my G1 never turns off, it's always set to show the battery status instead of blinking with a missed call/txt/whatever
ideas?
please post your current ROM, Recovery, SPL, Radio, whether or not you use apps2sd...and anything else that we may need to know to diagnose your problem. Thanks...
-BMFC
This happened even on the stock rom, after I wiped everything clean and rooted... and when I flashed the newest Cyanogen
I've looked around and found no mention of this issue anywhere on any forum that I saw
T-Mobile G1
ROM: Cyanogen 4.1.999
SPL: Hard SPL
Radio: ... I havent touched this? Im not evne too sure what it is, so im assuming default/stock ota? how do I check
Recovery: RA-dream-v1.2.3
ThatsMajor said:
This happened even on the stock rom, after I wiped everything clean and rooted... and when I flashed the newest Cyanogen
I've looked around and found no mention of this issue anywhere on any forum that I saw
T-Mobile G1
ROM: Cyanogen 4.1.999
SPL: Hard SPL
Radio: ... I havent touched this? Im not evne too sure what it is, so im assuming default/stock ota? how do I check
Recovery: RA-dream-v1.2.3
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if you dont know... you should update to the 26I radio
it can be found in the bootloader (cam+power)
for the us g1, last two digits are usually 29 or 26. (26 is the latest)
you can also find this info in the about phone section in settings under baseband
if its happening on the stock rom too, its probably a hardware issue. you wouldnt happen to have any apps that would mess with this setting, would you?
B-man007 said:
if you dont know... you should update to the 26I radio
it can be found in the bootloader (cam+power)
for the us g1, last two digits are usually 29 or 26. (26 is the latest)
you can also find this info in the about phone section in settings under baseband
if its happening on the stock rom too, its probably a hardware issue. you wouldnt happen to have any apps that would mess with this setting, would you?
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yup I had the 26... what exactly is the radio?
but yea, It happens all the time when im flashing, when im in the spl... whenever
the radio manages all the wireless stuff in the phone such as the phone itself, bluetooth, wifi..etc
it also calls the spl, which loads the whole phone up
if its happening all the time, its a hardware issue and you should contact tmobile and see if they replace it. if so, unroot your phone before sending it in
im thinking this has to be some sort of software issue because it works for battery/charging/whatever... and apps can have their notification pop up over the steady green light
well then its an app. go back to complete stock and see if the problem persists. remove all your applications, and go to the stock RC29 image, update to 1.6 OTA and see if it still happens.....
does the light stay on in the recovery (Home+power) or bootloader mode (cam+power) when your phone is not charging? if it does.....its a hardware problem

plz help - Rom install - Failure at line.. Install aborted

I rooted my G1 last night and have yet been able to load a Rom on it.
my radio is 2.22.19261
and I do not know how to check what my spl is. also when I try to install the newest spl to make sure I have it Im not sure how to install it since when I boot up pressing home and power it goes to RA-dream-v1.5.2. not sure how to do the update from here.
The 3 Roms I have tried so far are:
-FastTest2.4.1
-SuperD193-blk-WGKv3beta
-MLIGN-HeroV3.3
fasttest and superD get failure at line 59
MLIGN-Hero gets failure at line 80
So is there something I'm missing somewhere and if its the spl can someone point me in the right direction to update it??
Im still researching, but a lil help would be apprieciated and amazing
It shows the SPL version in your first screenshot. The SPL you need to load the roms you listed is in my signature.
You should be able to flash the SPL without problems because you meet the radio requirement already.
thanks.. I was just logging in to say I already got it figured out..
I thought I still had to rename the spl as update and then get the phone to boot to it wick i couldnt figure out how to do after I rooted it.
I booting it to recovery and then choose to Flash zip from sdcard.. choosing the spl I loaded on the sdcard
Works great now.. im testing out FastTest2.4.1 right now
Thanks again
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I have the exact problem, the pic that this person has is the same thing that shows up on my phone! but it wont let me even get on my phone if i turn it goes directly to android system recovery.. ????????
samanthamaresh said:
I have the exact problem, the pic that this person has is the same thing that shows up on my phone! but it wont let me even get on my phone if i turn it goes directly to android system recovery.. ????????
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I'm going to be nice this time but next time make sure you read on how to root your phone and install either HardSPL or EngSPL. Do not flash Haykuro's/Death/Danger because you'll likely brick your phone (since your first post has such an obvious answer)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480

root/possible brick?

ok here's what i did. downgraded a new phone to rc29. applied amon's latest recovery. flashed latest radio (2.22.23.2). flashed danger spl. haven't even had the choice of putting a rom on it yet. after this reboot screen will only go to g1 screen. will not go into recovery. will not go into fastboot. did i just brick this phone, possibly by using the latest radio?
That is a possible brick my friend. RC29 does not like newer radio's. If you can't boot into recovery or fastboot, then your SOL. See if the phone is recognized by your computer when you plug it in, I remember reading somewhere that you might be able to bring it back if it does, but I can't confirm.
yeah, that's what i figured. no good on the pc. sonofabitch. didn't even think about it when i put the new radio on there. on the other hand maybe i'll give it king. lol!
If it's new why don't you return it and say it just stopped working or something like the OTA update crashed it?
actually gonna try that with tmoblile. didn't buy it new though. wish me luck!
You will need it...because if you didn't buy it from t-mobile then they aren't going to honor the warranty.
....you said you installed radio and then spl....the only thing is....you should have used the radio that was on the same dl page as the death spl...not the newer radio.
Here is the link.
Follow the procedure as its written and then update the radio to the newest one is how I would have done it (or anyone wanting to play it safe). Since you wanted to skip that one step and go to the newest radio immediately, that might have caused your issues...
I wouldn't say its a brick just yet, I would see if anyone knows about the latest radio and flashing the spl on top of it. We already know you can flash the new radio on top of the old radio / death spl already flashed.

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