Hi there,
I got my new TP2 today, and was disgusted when I saw that Vodafone had raped the aesthetics of what I thought was going to be a gorgeous sleek, black interface. So, I jumped online researching what could be done, and eventually came across this site.
From what I have learned, I'm of the understanding that I must obtain the HTC unbranded 'ROM' and flash my phone's software back to the HTC ROM, instead of the tainted Vodafone offspring (I am fully aware this will void my warranty).
I've been looking around to see if the UK ROM is out, but so far I can only find the South East Asian one (posted in this forum) and a topic all about the EU one.
Are the EU and UK ROMs the same? Or am I going to have to wait X amount of time before it's indefinately released?
Or am I talking out of my arse altogether..? I've never worked with XDA/PDA phones before so I've no clue what's going on.
All I know is that Vodafone have screwed me over!!
Much appreciate in advance,
Rob
Rob, welcome to the forums. There is a wealth of information here usually, but as of now, this phone is VERY new. Things are still being worked on to allow the flashing of roms that are NOT provided by the carrier you purchased your unit from. Once this has been fully allowed (SSPL and HardSPL. Basically a hacked bootloader that doesn't check vendorID, allows unsigned roms images, and other things too) we will be able to do as you wish.
Keep watching, and a new thread will be created when it has happened.
Thank you so much for the speedy reply.
Unfortunately, I'm flabbagasted by the amount of words you just used that I do not undertstand
From what I know, SSPL and HardSPL are both some sort of devices used to flash (similiar to a piece of software used on computers to flash BIOS updates). These devices have to be made compatible with the Touch Pro 2 and its ROMs before they can release anything substantial that can solve branding problems. Is this correct?
So i'm waiting on:
1 - The UK ROM to be released in a stable format.
2 - SSPL/HardSPL to be made compatible with flashing these ROMs to a TP2 such as mine.
Thanks again.
Welcome to the forum.
Do some reading about HardSPL and QMAT.
HardSPL is still being developed and will hopefully be ready with in the next few months. So for the moment, you will have to use QMAT but it does have it's limitations.
Once HardSPL is released there will be a whole range of custom ROMs and then you will have many to choose from.
I host a range of ROMs at http://xda.caspersworld.co.uk
A Europe ROM should be World Wide English - WWE (unless specified) and should be suitable.
I dont know if the TP2 will be affected, but early on when people where upgrading the Orange UK Kaiser radio ROMs, there were problems and the phones would then needed unlocking.
VisualOD said:
Thank you so much for the speedy reply.
From what I know, SSPL and HardSPL are both some sort of devices used to flash (similiar to a piece of software used on computers to flash BIOS updates). These devices have to be made compatible with the Touch Pro 2 and its ROMs before they can release anything substantial that can solve branding problems. Is this correct?
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The ROMs used on HTC phones are signed with a certificate. The phone (SPL) checks for the certificate when you try to flash a ROM / image.
When the cooks make a new ROM, they are not able to sign it with HTC's certificate because we do not have access to it.
To get round this issue, we used a hacked SPL named HardSPL. The HardSPL does not check for a valid certificate and will allow flashing of any ROM, signed or not.
The HardSPL needs to be flashed on to the phone, but again, we do not have access to HTC's certificate, so we use SoftSPL which is a temporary SPL that does not care about the certificates either.
There is also a CID you have to worry about. This defines what region / provider the phone is from.
Vodafone have their own version of the ROM for the TP2 (again, this has been signed). Obviously Vodafone do not want you flashing an Orange ROM, or even HTC ROM on to the phone, so the CID is set to only let you flash a Vodafone ROM. HardSPL / SoftSPL will bypass the CID. QMAT is another utility you can use to generate a GoldCard that will bypass the CID checking but not the certificates
Hope that makes it a little clearer. Any more questions that you can not find answers to on the Wiki or forum, just ask and someone will try to help you out
Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I've googled around but have found HardSPL information for various phones and don't want to confuse myself. Though, what you have said has clarified things a little more.
So, to confirm...
When flashing a ROM onto a TP2 the phone checks the certificate to see if it is accepted or denied. For example, flashing a HTC ROM onto a Vodafone certified phone, will be denied due to certificates and CIDs not matching. Conclusively, HardSPL will be able to ignore this certificating process, and allow anyone to flash any ROM of their choice onto the phone.
However, for HardSPL to be installed we have to go through that process in the first place, so SoftSPL has been developed as a temporary solution to install(flash) HardSPL onto the phones.
Right?
VisualOD said:
Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me. I've googled around but have found HardSPL information for various phones and don't want to confuse myself. Though, what you have said has clarified things a little more.
So, to confirm...
When flashing a ROM onto a TP2 the phone checks the certificate to see if it is accepted or denied. For example, flashing a HTC ROM onto a Vodafone certified phone, will be denied due to certificates and CIDs not matching. Conclusively, HardSPL will be able to ignore this certificating process, and allow anyone to flash any ROM of their choice onto the phone.
However, for HardSPL to be installed we have to go through that process in the first place, so SoftSPL has been developed as a temporary solution to install(flash) HardSPL onto the phones.
Right?
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Yes you are right.
Now a answer to your first questions.
I know how much is a pain in the butt to buy a Vodafone Branded Phone (I have Vodafone SIM and because of the branding that they put, I only buy Factory Unlocked Phones).
If you need help, the new rom is available in the HTC UK website, put the following serial: ht968ll00175.
Then download the Europe WWE ROM. To change your firmware you going to need at the moment a registed version of QMAT for creation of the GoldCard.
Then is just install as normal.
Just to See, my phone had arrived with the PTG Rom, I had changed to the Asia WWE and now had the Europe WWE ROM. If you need further help, just send a PM.
VisualOD said:
Hi there,
I got my new TP2 today, and was disgusted when I saw that Vodafone had raped the aesthetics of what I thought was going to be a gorgeous sleek, black interface. So, I jumped online researching what could be done, and eventually came across this site.
From what I have learned, I'm of the understanding that I must obtain the HTC unbranded 'ROM' and flash my phone's software back to the HTC ROM, instead of the tainted Vodafone offspring (I am fully aware this will void my warranty).
I've been looking around to see if the UK ROM is out, but so far I can only find the South East Asian one (posted in this forum) and a topic all about the EU one.
Are the EU and UK ROMs the same? Or am I going to have to wait X amount of time before it's indefinately released?
Or am I talking out of my arse altogether..? I've never worked with XDA/PDA phones before so I've no clue what's going on.
All I know is that Vodafone have screwed me over!!
Much appreciate in advance,
Rob
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Most of the 'stuff' that Vodafone have done to the phone can be undone quite easily without flashing ROMs or unlocking the phone. Most, if not all, of the details are on here in various places.
This thread is probably the most comprehensive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528713&highlight=vodafone&page=2
HTH
stunno said:
Most of the 'stuff' that Vodafone have done to the phone can be undone quite easily without flashing ROMs or unlocking the phone. Most, if not all, of the details are on here in various places.
This thread is probably the most comprehensive
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528713&highlight=vodafone&page=2
HTH
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Thanks for the input and help Stunno, appreciate your efforts.
Black Pheonix and I are half way through creating a goldcard for my TP2 and flashing it to the stock HTC ROM. This way I can flick between the Vodafone ROM and the HTC ROM when/if it has to be serviced or claimed for on warranty.
I've had the phone for a day and I don't particularly like the reviews of things such as the file explorer not working, and the TP2 failing to boot because of the installed theme.
Thanks anyway.
i'd like to jump on this bandwagon , i've got a voda branded phone , i've taken the branding off with the patches mentioned before but would much rather have a 'clean' un-branded rom.... is there a guide for using qmat and creating a gold card for this purpose ? I've had a little search but didn't find anything for this specifically ? Dont mind paying for qmat.
I've had a little ****-around with qmat but i'm guessing you got to know what your doing ..... I'd rather not try my usual 'fiddle with it till it breaks and then try and fix it' way of doing things.
drawflex said:
i'd like to jump on this bandwagon , i've got a voda branded phone , i've taken the branding off with the patches mentioned before but would much rather have a 'clean' un-branded rom.... is there a guide for using qmat and creating a gold card for this purpose ? I've had a little search but didn't find anything for this specifically ? Dont mind paying for qmat.
I've had a little ****-around with qmat but i'm guessing you got to know what your doing ..... I'd rather not try my usual 'fiddle with it till it breaks and then try and fix it' way of doing things.
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OK, guide for QMAT:
1st - Pay it to get the key;
2nd - Buy a microSD Card;
3rd - Install a registry editor in your PPC and change the following key: HKLM\Security\Policies\Policies\"00001001" set to integer 1 (it should be integer 2);
4th - Go to QMAT and do the following:
Select:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Then do the Following by steps:
First - Get SD Serial from WINCE Device (wait until appears a new serial. During the process will appear a message in your Rhodium, say allow or yes);
Second - Choose in the selection box the Rhodium equipment (not Rhodium CDMA in your case, CDMA is for US Rhodiums);
Third - Choose one of the 2 options, I prefer direct copy to the card in the WINCE Device instead of image to your PC Harddrive.
After that is simply download the signed rom you need and patch with the card still inside the Rhodium. Don't forget that you must be sincronized with ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center.
Any more help just PM me.
If you sit tight for a few days I'll be making a tutorial for how to unbrand TP2's using QMAT and Goldcards, in collaboration with Black Pheonix.
Hopefully, it should put to rest the problems for all the people who have the same problem as me!
Check back on the forums in a few days, or check my profile and add me on msn if you want any more info.
Black Phoenix said:
OK, guide for QMAT:
<cropped quote to avoid filling thread with the same **** from two posts ago>
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Thanks for scorcheo reply... exactly what i was after... have some karma.
Im trying to create a goldcard using these instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417930
But I cant get them to work
I just want to flash the new EU rom onto my vodafone TP2 so I can use the HTC rom and subsequent patches without waiting for vodafone to get round to it in 6 months time.
Should this procedure work for my TP2 ? Or does anyone have the correct set of instructions for teh rhodium ?
regards
Alan
AlanMDA said:
Im trying to create a goldcard using these instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417930
But I cant get them to work
I just want to flash the new EU rom onto my vodafone TP2 so I can use the HTC rom and subsequent patches without waiting for vodafone to get round to it in 6 months time.
Should this procedure work for my TP2 ? Or does anyone have the correct set of instructions for teh rhodium ?
regards
Alan
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The procedure that I've done is the same I posted. Worked with me since first time, I already had flashed my rom 2 times using this procedure without any problem, rom, radio and sms update.
Well I was trying to use perl and the xda dev tools to create a goldcard as I dont have QMAT and only wanted a one off upgrade to the HTC vanilla ROM.
I take it your saying the only way to do this at the moment is to use QMAT ?
TIA
Alan
AlanMDA said:
Well I was trying to use perl and the xda dev tools to create a goldcard as I dont have QMAT and only wanted a one off upgrade to the HTC vanilla ROM.
I take it your saying the only way to do this at the moment is to use QMAT ?
TIA
Alan
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I'm not saying that the only procedure to do it is using QMAT. I'm saying that was the procedure that worked with me. Perl may also work, but I do not tested that way.
wootty2000 said:
The ROMs used on HTC phones are signed with a certificate. The phone (SPL) checks for the certificate when you try to flash a ROM / image.
When the cooks make a new ROM, they are not able to sign it with HTC's certificate because we do not have access to it.
To get round this issue, we used a hacked SPL named HardSPL. The HardSPL does not check for a valid certificate and will allow flashing of any ROM, signed or not.
The HardSPL needs to be flashed on to the phone, but again, we do not have access to HTC's certificate, so we use SoftSPL which is a temporary SPL that does not care about the certificates either.
There is also a CID you have to worry about. This defines what region / provider the phone is from.
Vodafone have their own version of the ROM for the TP2 (again, this has been signed). Obviously Vodafone do not want you flashing an Orange ROM, or even HTC ROM on to the phone, so the CID is set to only let you flash a Vodafone ROM. HardSPL / SoftSPL will bypass the CID. QMAT is another utility you can use to generate a GoldCard that will bypass the CID checking but not the certificates
Hope that makes it a little clearer. Any more questions that you can not find answers to on the Wiki or forum, just ask and someone will try to help you out
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thanks checked the Rhodium ROMS but must of the official roms are for WM 6.1
because Mine is WM 6.5 Rom 1.59.502.3 Radio 4.48.25.20, if i am wrong please someone correct me
BABA MAI WUDIRI said:
thanks checked the Rhodium ROMS but must of the official roms are for WM 6.1
because Mine is WM 6.5 Rom 1.59.502.3 Radio 4.48.25.20, if i am wrong please someone correct me
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Older TP2s came with 6.1 ROMs. Mine did too. But official 6.5 updates are available from HTC and from some (but not all carriers), and a lot of TP2s now ship with 6.5 already on them.
Related
Please note, this is a TEST ROM and may not work.
I do not have a G4 version Wizard to test on, so some brave soul with the hardware in question is going to have to give it a try. Be aware, while I have double checked everything and this should work, FLASHING THIS ROM MAY BRICK YOUR DEVICE.
Once this is confirmed working on a G4 version Wizard, I'll update this post.
The contents of this ROM are functionally the same as the standard Mr. Clean ROM. For more information on Mr. Clean please read the original Mr. Clean thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52775
Download:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_2240001a_AKU23_WWE.zip
Readme:
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Mr. Clean AKU 2.3 ROM v2.24.0001a for HTC Wizard (G4 version)
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The ROM of choice for tinkerers and hobbyists is back, and this time the big baldy is ready to take on the G4 variant of the HTC Wizard. Because this ROM is designed specifically for Wizard units with the G4 flash chip it WILL NOT WORK on the original Wizard. If you have an original Wizard, you must use the 2.24a version of Mr. Clean.
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WHAT DO I NEED?
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-A CID Unlocked HTC Wizard with a G4 Flash Chip
-Windows PC with a USB port
-ActiveSync 4.0 or higher installed
-MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_2240001a_AKU23_WWE.zip
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HOW CAN I TELL IF I HAVE A G3 or G4 VERSION FLASH CHIP?
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There is an easy way to tell which version flash chip you have in your Wizard.
Simply look at your boot screen and check the IPL/SPL version.
2.xx = G3 Flash Chip
2.xx.0001 = G4 Flash Chip
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WHAT DOES CID UNLOCKING MEAN?
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A CID lock normally prevents you from using any ROM aside from an official ROM provided by your carrier/OEM. Trying to upgrade a CID locked device with an unofficial ROM can damage your Wizard. DO NOT try to upgrade your Wizard if you have not CID unlocked it.
If you wish to search for a free solution, please check the forums on http://xda-developers.com. Be aware however, that free solutions are only available for certain ROM versions. As of this writing there are no known free solutions for the G4 series Wizard, but this may change in the future.
A viable alternative to waiting for a free solution is to visit http://imei-check.co.uk. This company charges 20 British Pounds (approx 40 US Dollars) to perform a SIM and CID unlock on your Wizard. It claims to handle all versions of the Wizard hardware, so if you have a G4 version, this may be your only option. It is generally accepted as the place to go for SIM and CID unlocks.
*Note - I have NO affiliation with IMEI-Check. I am simply including the information as a service to the reader.
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HOW DO I FLASH THE Mr. Clean ROM?
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1) Unzip MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_2240001a_AKU23_WWE.zip to a folder on your hard drive.
2) Make sure your Wizard has at least a 50 percent charge on the battery.
3) Connect your Wizard to the PC via the USB cable.
4) Run the program ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe in the ROM folder.
5) Follow the prompts to update your Wizard.
6) When you get to the UPDATE screen the version listed should be 2.24.0001a_MRC. If not STOP NOW. You have the wrong ROM.
7) Once you start the upgrade, your Wizard will reset to a rainbow colored screen. This is normal.
8) The Wizard then switches to a blank screen with a progress bar. It may pause for a few minutes at 98%. This is normal.
9) Once the update has completed, the Wizard will reset and present you with the initial configuration.
10) Calibrate the touch screen and let the customization option complete.
11) After the customization completes, the Wizard will reboot a final time and the upgrade is finished.
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WHAT IF I HAVE A WIZARD (G3 VERSION) AND WANT TO INSTALL MR. CLEAN?
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If you have a G3 version Wizard, then you need the file MrClean_RUU_WIZARD_224a_AKU23_WWE.zip.
When i reached step 6 of "How to Flash" i get this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
i should not continue right?
Tried to proceed, everything went ok till the "progress bar" part.. Phone turned to rainbow color, and this is what i got:
About to give this ago.. stay tuned!
no joy! I got Error 300 like the poster above me.
Maybe there's something incompatible with the noid version of the uploader that is refusing to let us upgrade?
allo gamescan;
correct if im wrong:
but if u try to install this rom into a g3 wizard a dont see how it could brick it.
because the rom checks the machine chip before flashing as the official roms that include the 2 versions.
so if u flash this rom into a g3 the only thing that not gets updated its the bootloader.....as it would not be compatible.
are you using the g3 update utilitys in the g4 roms?
because it coud be potencialy fatal.
as the haked update utilitys that we can find were made from roms prior to g4.
for the testers;
unless this rom has a 2.5 or above haked update utility u need to have the device cid unlocked because it will be no way u will be able to install it.
regads
faria
faria: my device is fully CID unlocked with the imei-check solution, as I can flash the 2.x versions of the imate and tmobile USA roms on my tmobile UK device.
sporkguy said:
faria: my device is fully CID unlocked with the imei-check solution, as I can flash the 2.x versions of the imate and tmobile USA roms on my tmobile UK device.
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i wrote above;
unless this rom has a 2.5 or above haked update utility u need to have the device cid unlocked because it will be no way u will be able to install it.
im quite aware that if you have cid unlocked you will be able to install any rom,from any provider. i have flashed my with every possible rom plus my own.
sporkguy said:
no joy! I got Error 300 like the poster above me.
Maybe there's something incompatible with the noid version of the uploader that is refusing to let us upgrade?
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Do you still have the T-Mobile 2.24 BETA ROM that I had you download the other day? If so, I'd love for you to try a few things.
First, upzip the T-Mobile ROM and the Mr. Clean ROM to two separate folders.
Now, make a new folder and *copy* the Mr. Clean ROM installer files to the new folder.
After than, copy the RUUGetInfo.exe from the T-Mobile folder and overwrite the one in the new folder. Click on the RUU Wizard (NoID) and try to run the upgrade.
If that fails, I want you to copy the RUUGetInfo.exe from the Mr. Clean folder and overwrite the one in the new folder. Now, copy the RUU Wizard from the T-Mobile folder into the new folder. Click on the RUU Wizard (DO NOT click on the NoID version) and try to run the upgrade.
If that fails, I want you to once again copy the RUUGetInfo.exe from the T-Mobile folder into the new folder. Click on the RUU Wizard (DO NOT click on the NoID version) and try to run the upgrade.
What were're trying to do here is track down where the version info is getting conflicted. I suspect it is because the hacked RUUGetInfo.exe is setup to always report a low version of the ROM so that the upgrade utility will allow downgrading. However, if the upgrade utility sees a G3 ROM on the device (which it always will with the hacked RUUGetInfo) it'll freak when you try to flash a G4 ROM to the Wizard. At least, that's what I'm going with right now. By swapping out a "normal" RUUGetInfo, I'm hoping that the upgrade utility will be happy because it will see a G4 ROM on the device and know that it is flashing a G4 ROM. The only "catch" that I foresee with this is that because it will be able to read the true value of the ROM, downgrading to earlier IPL/SPL versions will not be possible.
faria said:
allo gamescan;
correct if im wrong:
but if u try to install this rom into a g3 wizard a dont see how it could brick it.
because the rom checks the machine chip before flashing as the official roms that include the 2 versions.
so if u flash this rom into a g3 the only thing that not gets updated its the bootloader.....as it would not be compatible.
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Yes. If someone manages to flash this to a G3 based device IT WILL BRICK. The software should prevent the flashing, but if you manage to override the safety check and force the flash, IT WILL BRICK.
It is foolish to the extreme for someone to try to flash this file to a G3 version Wizard.
As I mentioned earlier, I don't believe the flashing utility is the issue, I believe it is in what the RUUGetInfo utility is reporting to the flashing utility since the hacked version of the RUUGetInfo utility reports a fixed version number all the time.
Hopefully with Sporkguy's testing, we'll be able to successfully package a ROM that can be used by owners of CID unlocked G4 version Wizards. Of course, once the specifics are known, then that will also make it easier for others to package up custom ROMs for the G4 version Wizards as well.
thanks for the reply gamescan.
lets crack this....
it is my belive that there is an eazyest way ....
as far as i know the only diference betwin the g3 and g4 devices is the bootloader ipl/spl ,so we can take any rom and remove the ipl/spl ,therefore the rom would be OS+EXTENDED-ROM+RADIO+SPLASH AND HTC LOGO, and so we would be able to install this rom in any chipset version because we would not touch the bootloader and then we would have 1 rom for all ,and avoid confusion ,specialy to newbies.
the proof of this[as you know] is in the newest official roms ,after we take it apart it contains 2 ipl and 2 spls ,so that tells us that apart from the ipl/spl there is nothing diferent about the roms,since the official rom install in in the g3 and g4 chipsets.
forgive me if im wrong.
If you check the prior thread, you will see that did not work. A flash of GSM + Splash + Ext ROM failed with the same error 300.
The only way anything is going to get solved is with testing and careful deduction. Random guessing or untested assumptions will only confuse things.
gamescan said:
If you check the prior thread, you will see that did not work. A flash of GSM + Splash + Ext ROM failed with the same error 300.
The only way anything is going to get solved is with testing and careful deduction. Random guessing or untested assumptions will only confuse things.
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a just flashed the latest 2.24 rom taken from an official rom that contains the 2 ipl/spls into a g3 wizard without probems[without the ipl/spl].so its not an random guess or untested assumptions. he got the error 300 because the wizard its locked.
i will be posting the rom soon ,i just nedd to finish integrating NETCFv2 into it .this should also work with cid unlocked g4,
godbye.
I'll try the above shortly - i'm just waiting on getting a copy of Sprite backup so I can come back again. (I'm getting tired of reloading all my stuff back onto the device every other day!)
Will let u know how it goes!
gamescan said:
After than, copy the RUUGetInfo.exe from the T-Mobile folder and overwrite the one in the new folder. Click on the RUU Wizard (NoID) and try to run the upgrade.
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Error 300
If that fails, I want you to copy the RUUGetInfo.exe from the Mr. Clean folder and overwrite the one in the new folder. Now, copy the RUU Wizard from the T-Mobile folder into the new folder. Click on the RUU Wizard (DO NOT click on the NoID version) and try to run the upgrade.
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Error 238 - File Read
(The UU Cannot open the requested file)
If that fails, I want you to once again copy the RUUGetInfo.exe from the T-Mobile folder into the new folder. Click on the RUU Wizard (DO NOT click on the NoID version) and try to run the upgrade.
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Error 238 again
Ok, so i've never flashed my device bofore, and i'm dumb and i overlooked the first step of checking to see if i had a 3g or 4g.
I downloaded the program, and updated the rom. It installed, and it loaded up, i saw the pretty MR clean bootscreen (at which point i realized how dumb i was but i looked at the version in the loading screen, and i did say it was 4g, but this was AFTER the flashing of the rom, so i donno if that was just changed cause of hte flashing), and then it started installing the customizations. Then, my mind rests and i chat away for a bit with my friend on aim, and i glance over my phone. Its off, hmm i guess it had to restart, ok lets turn the baby on! umm why aren't you turning on? Huh? No? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! MOTHERFU$()*#&(CKER PIECE OF SHS$(T*( AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Its deAD! It won't turn on! Oh god what have i DONE!!!!!
HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
PS i have a tmobile USA version of the MDA vario
f18viper said:
Ok, so i've never flashed my device bofore, and i'm dumb and i overlooked the first step of checking to see if i had a 3g or 4g.
I downloaded the program, and updated the rom. It installed, and it loaded up, i saw the pretty MR clean bootscreen (at which point i realized how dumb i was but i looked at the version in the loading screen, and i did say it was 4g, but this was AFTER the flashing of the rom, so i donno if that was just changed cause of hte flashing), and then it started installing the customizations. Then, my mind rests and i chat away for a bit with my friend on aim, and i glance over my phone. Its off, hmm i guess it had to restart, ok lets turn the baby on! umm why aren't you turning on? Huh? No? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! MOTHERFU$()*#&(CKER PIECE OF SHS$(T*( AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Its deAD! It won't turn on! Oh god what have i DONE!!!!!
HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
PS i have a tmobile USA version of the MDA vario
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Before looking into it being a more serious problem, do you by chance know what your battery charge was before starting this escapade?
The phone won't charge via USB when it's in bootloader or flash mode, and flashing has a decent current draw, so...could it have hit empty?
heh, it does say several times, in this very thread, that this rom is experimental and intended for G4 chips ONLY.
Hell, we've even been discussing why it doesnt work on my G4 device yet, and you still tried it? Brave, man, brave
I'd Probably try flashing it again by putting it into bootloader mode (take out battery, put back in again and press and hold the camera button whilst plugging in USB) - and sticking an older official rom on there.
Best of luck lol
Yeah i don't think brave is the word, dumb and impatient sounds better i think.
Well i don't think its the battery cause it did load, and I calibrated the screen and everything, and then it started installed the customizations, and then it went blank, so it did have a chance to start charging again.
I did only have a 60% charge though, i'm gonna try to sawp a battery a guy at work who's got a similar phone (its not the same, i hope htc uses the same batteries for its models)
At this point, NOTHING WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No buttons, not plugging in pressing the reset buttons, nada, nothing , zip just a blank dead piece of plastic. I took ou tthe battery countless times, ahh i'm lost
I broke my pretty thing
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Yeah i don't think brave is the word, dumb and impatient sounds better i think.
Well i don't think its the battery cause it did load, and I calibrated the screen and everything, and then it started installed the customizations, and then it went blank, so it did have a chance to start charging again.
I did only have a 60% charge though, i'm gonna try to sawp a battery a guy at work who's got a similar phone (its not the same, i hope htc uses the same batteries for its models)
At this point, NOTHING WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No buttons, not plugging in pressing the reset buttons, nada, nothing , zip just a blank dead piece of plastic. I took ou tthe battery countless times, ahh i'm lost
I broke my pretty thing
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Exactly the same thing happened to mine at exactly the same stage (customizations), my battery was at 100% before flashing and have tried another battery too. It was totally dead, no flashing LED's even when left on charge, couldnt get into the bootloader by holding the camera button and plugging in the USB cable either. Luckily it was swapped over for a new one within a few days....
Oh mine was on the other rom the ""Mr. Clean" AKU 2.3 ROM" but the same result.... so put very bluntly, you are buggered
Exactly the same thing happened to mine at exactly the same stage (customizations), my battery was at 100% before flashing and have tried another battery too. It was totally dead, no flashing LED's even when left on charge, couldnt get into the bootloader by holding the camera button and plugging in the USB cable either. Luckily it was swapped over for a new one within a few days....
Oh mine was on the other rom the ""Mr. Clean" AKU 2.3 ROM" but the same result.... so put very bluntly, you are buggered
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Ughh i don't think i'm going to be able to swap it. This sucks severly. Is there any possible way to access the bootloader? Possible breathe life into this thing?
Hi all.
I've just got my new Orange M700 on contract and have a few basic questions before upgrading to WM6:-
1. Before upgrading is it sensible to backup the existing ROM etc? Are there tools to do this?
2. After upgrading SPL, GSM and ROM and presumably installing the latest UK network wizard software from HTC will the existing SIM just carry on working as before without Orange being any the wiser as to my actions?
3. In the case of a warranty claim or if I just want to go back to factory default for some reason, what's the recommended process (if any) of reverting to the original ROM etc?
I've been reading hundreds of posts here but thought it best to double check before proceeding. Could be useful for other newbies to see the answers to these questions as well I guess.
Thanks
good questions.....
the network manager is a good idea- wonder if there is one for the Aussie market??? Anyone?
from what i have read do a Hard SPL flash first in case of any problems.
No-one has yet extracted the Orange ROM for reinstallation. It is not a simple process! If you don't want to do it yourself, then there's no point in taking backups etc prior to a ROM update, because you can't go back Never try and apply a restore after a ROM update- you risk screwing things up big time!
Orange SIM's will continue working fine, and Orange will be none the wiser about the upgrade.
If you need a warranty repair, you will either have to hope someone has extracted the Orange ROM and posted it for download, or trust to luck that Orange will accept it as it is. A number of people have reported that they have successfully had a flashed device replaced, as long as the fault wasn't due to the ROM update itself.
If you are in any doubt, DON'T DO IT ! The differences from the Orange release ROM in the UK, and the cooked WM6 ROM's are pretty minimal, apart from the cosmetics.
Good info. Many thanks. Time to get flashing.
I'm in the process of dumping and rebuilding an Orange UK M700 ROM at the moment .... so hopefully I'll be able to upload it soon.
the only caution I would add is that you will loose access to the Orangeworld website after flashing, until someone can work out where Orange hide the files that identify the phone and allow the full graphics version of the site. Depends if thats an issue really
just to point out you can't upgrade to official WM6 for Trinity yet- the ROMS are cooked- i.e taken from other handsets and modified to work with Trinity hardware.
I tried many many cooked WM6 ROMS for the Prophet. All had pros and cons, but were too problematic to live with (e.g. wifi and BT setting vanishing, not reliably charging over USB etc).
I'll be waiting for an official WM6 ROM for Trinity - well here's hoping.
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I'm in the process of dumping and rebuilding an Orange UK M700 ROM at the moment .... so hopefully I'll be able to upload it soon.
the only caution I would add is that you will loose access to the Orangeworld website after flashing, until someone can work out where Orange hide the files that identify the phone and allow the full graphics version of the site. Depends if thats an issue really
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Excellent. I was going to have a go myself but haven't managed to make the time yet.
Fingers crossed, good luck etc
Hi there, I've just received a "new" HTC Trinity from Vodafone Portugal and I've some doubts regarding it. The ROM version is pretty old (1.15.410.2) and I was wondering through the HTC support and they have a new generic ROM (portuguese ROM) with GPS enabled and other improvements.
So the risk of upgrading to this new ROM is practically null (is it?) since it is a ROM provided by the vendor, and afterwards I will have the GPS working, but the SIM will remain locked.
Then I can run the batch file provided by pof to unlock the ppc, and there it is : a GPS enabled Trinity that I can use in PT and UK.
Well, is this so linear or am I missing something?
thanks,
and cheers
mouro
download rom removes sim lock?!
if downloading the new rom resets all the settings from the vodafone operator, shouldn't also remove the SIM lock?
well, this might appear a dumb question but it make sense (at least to me )
thanks
1)
If your phone is a Vodaphone, and you install a HTC generic ROM on it, you may lose the benefit of your Vodaphone warranty.
But since your ROM version is so old, I guess it's a second hand phone, not a new one, so your Warranty period has probably already expired.
In this case, you have nothing to lose.
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Flashing a new ROM on your phone doesn't make it a sim unlocked phone.
Besides, if there is SPL/IPL on that so called generic HTC ROM, you may not be able to flash it onto your phone, unless you CID unlock it.
Hard SPL is a wise option, search on the forum, you'll find everything for SIM and CID unlock.
Thanks for the reply.
I've already seen how to unlock the SIM/CID.
I'm gonna try the upgrade to Hard-SPL. If I'm successful then i can change to a recent cooked ROM.
thanks,
i'll let you know if I bricked my ppc
hope not!
cheers
Well I've managed to update the bootloader to SPL 1.20 and the Radio ROM. Now I can see the radio version on the settings panel.
These tools are really something, I didn't have any problem flashing the ROM !!!
Next step is to upgrade to a new ROM, but :
1) Can I use any ROM available (independently of the CID)?
2) Are there any cooked ROMs with GPS software?
3) Is the WM6 a must have, or is it more or less like WM5 with some extra eye
candy and extra overhead ?
4) Can I SIM unlock the phone with the pof tool with the SPL bootloader?
Thanks for the help!
regards,
mouro
Hi Mouro
I also have a P3600 in Portugal. In the begining I also installed the htc rom from vodafone to enable gps.
I think you have to unlock the phone cid (instal super cid) in order to be possible the installationn of any coocked rom.
I´m sure that all the coocked roms have gps enabled.
WM6 has some advantages, especially the htc task manager and maybe a bit more speed... but I think the advantages are not that much when compared with WM5. Anyway, it´s the latest version and we always consider that important...
Yes, you can use the tools provided by pof to unlock the phone.
Mine is working fine and very stable.
Nothing to complaint about.
Best regards
hey nj05
thanks for your reply
I think I'm gonna give it a try.
before installing the HARD SPL I was a little scared because after all, this is an expensive toy but now after seeing all the positive feedback I'm gonna give it a try.
Tomorrow I'll post here the results.
best regards
cheers
mouro
all rigth baby
well,
finally I have my ppc unblocked with an original ROM from HTC with everything running smooth!!!
Thanks to everybody!
keep up the good hacking work!
cheers
Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
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I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
Morning all
I have been offered a swap for my iPhone for a brand new boxed Orange TyTn II and Im just wondering if its worth doing?
I have had previous windows mobile phones and do like the phones so I am considering the trade, I am currently on o2.
The thing is i have read all the posts about unlocking and flashing roms etc and im a little on edge about doing it myself as im sure i will break it lol
I would basically need to sim unlock the phone and remove all the orange software as I think it looks naff!
How much work is envolved in doing what i need and how long would it take?
Sorry if im repeating a post, im not the best at forums and get lost with all this info you guys have!
Cheers
Sy
Absolutely YES!!!
There is no contest. The TyTN II wins hands down!!!
Leave well enough alone. Perhaps get a sim unlocker. Just do a search and you should find something. But don't play around with flashing roms etc. You may regret it.
Use the HTC original apps which you will find on a sticky at the beginning of this forum.
You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
I'm wondering if i should get a TyTn 2 now or wait for a Xperia.
Checked out the TyTn at a store a couple of days ago and i loved it, the only thing i didnt like was that it doesnt have a radio. Then i read around in this forum and came across the driver problems and the touchscreen bug and due to them i'm more inclined to wait for Xperia, but then i checked out Xperia's design and i didnt like the way the keyboard slides to, makes you operate the joystick with the right hand instead of the left and that's kind of uncomfortable.
seriously, who uses radio? I stream my Sirius satalite radio..
Sirius Pwnz AM/FM
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You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
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dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
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dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
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Yes you MUST CID unlock as well (unless it has already been done, which is doubtful if it is on Orange).
My advice...Before even getting the TYTN II, read the sticky's and Wikis in the upgrading ROM section at least 3 times over to ensure you have an idea of what you are going to need to do before even doing anything. when you think you understand it, read them again.
Then go ahead and flash any ROM you fancy and enjoy the benfits of the TYTN II voer the Iphone.
HardSPL is the replacement bootloader that allows you to install an non original ROM.
Im on T mobile and i hav heard that the ROM is not heavily branded. im just worried about bricking it. i already have the MDA viara 3.
reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 doing hardspl, does that automaticly unlock the CID or is there another tool to do that? if so do CID unlock it first and then hardspl?
You will NEED to CID unlock AND HardSPL...Do not consider doing anything untill you are 100% certain of the steps you are performing and why, otherwise you will have a rather expensive paperweight.
EVERYTHING you need to know and more about Rom flashing is contained here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Seriously, ensure you read every link and sub link related to ROM flashing. Even make sure you read the "inspirational reading" bit, that will give you the confidence to try it.
As long as you read you will be fine.
When I was new here I spent 4 days solid reading reading and reading before biting the bullet and flashing my first ROM. At
Thanks for the advice. one small question. if i was to follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1790046&postcount=3 word for word i should be succesful?
there is one question i am still confused about and thats this hardspl/cid unlock. according to the Thread i linked, all i got to do is follow the guide from HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device (4 free) and bam im ready to Flash the ROM?
also what are the major benefits of flashing to a custom ROM?
does the procedure from that last link above hardspl AND CID at the same time?
hi i managed to hardspl my device succesfuly. so im ready to install a new cooked ROM? what are the best ROMS out there that i can try. i have seen dutty's ROM that many have used and was wondering if thats the best one
Does the DUTTY rom improve the camera and video playback?