Hi to all cookers here you have done a wonderfull job so far. What i was wondering is it possible i saw it gsmarena site that the new htc hero is much like iphone the photos or galery and the internet browser are made multitouch. Is it possible somehow to get the drivers of the screen from hero and to make the hd as well multitouch like hero. I know that it is a very hard work and i know how the multitouch works i mean i understand very good i just am not that good a programer to make it my self. But since hd and the hero are alike in almost everything hardware wise i was just wondering if it possible. I know that hero useses android linux and the broweser should be chromo and suports multitouch maybe some programer can make it work in wm as well.
Thanks hope someone does it and make us all very happy
i believe that current resistive screens (like the Touch HD) are not capable of multi-touch at all.
the Hero i think has a capacitive screen (like the G1/Iphone/Magic) and does support multitouch.
i have read that next gen resistive screens will support multitouch but i think its more about the hardware than just the drivers....
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i believe that current resistive screens (like the Touch HD) are not capable of multi-touch at all.
the Hero i think has a capacitive screen (like the G1/Iphone/Magic) and does support multitouch.
i have read that next gen resistive screens will support multitouch but i think its more about the hardware than just the drivers....
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I was always thinking that, its a screem thing rather than software. Winmo should be multi touch by the time of wm 7 i hope.
Resistive Screen to now couldn't be multitouch: it's HW problem.
Maybe you could emulate multitouch but it's hard to do
D'rath
Let me clear one important issue: resistive touchscreen does not exclude multitouch. Resistive screen technically can multitouch and can be much better in terms of sesitivity than iPhone. Technology is out there for a while but sadly for end-users it is not used (and manufacturers have many rea$ons to keep it that way). Current blackstone hardware is limited and cannot provide multitouch.
Hero screen TFT capacitive touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 320 x 480 pixels, 3.2 inches
HD screen TFT resistive touchscreen, 65K colors
Size 480 x 800 pixels, 3.8 inches
It is the same just the drivers are missing from the HD drivers needet for the screen to know when u touch in to plasec at once to calculate not only one touch at the time
Eugh...
Resistive and capacitive are just different technologies for achieving what we know as touch screens. "Multi touch" is purely software. Capacitive is better built and more rugged whereas resistive is cheaper but more precise.
Hi all,
Take a look at this:
http://www.umpcportal.com/2009/02/multi-touch-comes-to-resistive-touchscreens
If I have understood correctly, it could be possible to implement this feacture in a standard resistive touch screen. Perhaps our HD screen supports this feature.
Hope this helps!
roketjack said:
I was always thinking that, its a screem thing rather than software. Winmo should be multi touch by the time of wm 7 i hope.
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it is nothing to do with WM OS is all about hardware
WM is much much advance OS compare to iPhone or G1
I just wonder if WM6.5 can be developed similar to Nokia N97 to have few widgets on main screen and information can be updated automatically.
fredskis said:
Eugh...
Resistive and capacitive are just different technologies for achieving what we know as touch screens. "Multi touch" is purely software. Capacitive is better built and more rugged whereas resistive is cheaper but more precise.
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yes yes bro i am not that good a programer to make it my self that is why i asked if anyone can do it maybe if I was able to find drivers of hero and work some magic in IDE it is all in assembler maybe i can do it the screen just need to calculate the touch right now it wont register 2 touch try to push it in to saperate places in any app that can draw and u will see that the drawing will be in the middle cuz the drivers dont understand what happend they will calculate it in the middle but if we change the drivers make them understand that we are touching to different places to sets of different calculations then it will work
Morphgear 2.4.0.9 WVGA gamepad with Multi-Touch support
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=489147
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Should i wait for Touch pro or just get Diamond?
The specifcation for Touch pro is definately what i'm looking for except "keyboard" and "size"
However, Diamonds has no externmal memory, and flash.
Now i'm really confuse, wheter to wait for Tocuh pro to release or just get diamond now
Many review say this diamond is very interesting.
Thanks for the advice.
If you don't want the keyboard, or the bloated size, then the Diamond's the one to choose.
You can always manage files to keep within the 4gb. You can't leave half the Pro at home when you don't want the size issue.
Kevin
Yep. Get the Diamond. 4GB is more than enough for most people, and a lack of flash will just mean some of your pictures will be lower quality. Meanwhile the extra size and keyboard problems would be considerably harder to solve - you can't compress the phone, but you can compress files!
Keyboard vs no Keyboard should be the main deciding factor.
Memory would then be secondary as the TD DOES have 4gb still...
To be honest I'm gonna miss the qwerty keyboard on this device, but when I sum up the positive and negative sides from both pda's I personally think you're better off with the diamond if you're an avarage user. To sum my (most important) opinions:
Keyboard:
I think the keyboard is very handy, but I don't like the thickness of the Touch Pro. At the moment I have a MDA Vario (wizard). Great device (for it's time) but it's just too gigantic imo. When you look at the new software keyboard it looks like it works like a charm (by the way, does anyone have real experience with it?) and makes the keyboard look very depricated imo.
Memory/SD:
Yeah, upgradable can be very handy. But if you look at the Diamond specs.. I mean, 4 gig.. Isn't that just enough for a phone/pda?
By the way. It's mentioned nowhere that the Diamond has a better VGA screen. While the touch pro displays 65.536 colours, the diamond displays 262.144 colours. More the reason to choose the diamond for me!
Totally agree.
moving from Excalibur to Diamond was quite a challenge for me personaly.
I miss my easy texting on hardware qwerty keyboard I like new touchflo but as soon as Touch Pro is out, I will be switching to Rafael. Diamond is great though. Just not my cup of tea
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Keyboard vs no Keyboard should be the main deciding factor.
Memory would then be secondary as the TD DOES have 4gb still...
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I currently use Artemis,
Actually Touch pro size is not so different from Artemis
Touch Pro: 102 mm (L) X 51 mm (W) X 18.05 mm (T)
Artemis: 108 mm (L) X 58 mm (W) X 16.8 mm (T)
Only 1.25 MM. thicker
However, still i never used any keyboard phone
XDA Mini--> Atom--> Prophet --> Artemis ---> ???
Just wonder, if i keep on Diamond.. is will be the same feeling
I have no conclusion yet, Thanks
geeMc said:
By the way. It's mentioned nowhere that the Diamond has a better VGA screen. While the touch pro displays 65.536 colours, the diamond displays 262.144 colours. More the reason to choose the diamond for me!
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Where did you find this info? This and this state the opposite...
And then, this is like the fifth thread about that. Let's try to keep it all in one place. Anyways, my opinion...
demonizator said:
Where did you find this info? This and this state the opposite...
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I think your second 'this' was meant to be this.
And PDAdb has had inaccurate information in the past, so maybe... *crosses fingers in hope of better screen on Touch Diamond*
Dark Fire said:
I think your second 'this' was meant to be this.
And PDAdb has had inaccurate information in the past, so maybe... *crosses fingers in hope of better screen on Touch Diamond*
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Oops, sorry bout that.
Well since Diamond is already out can somebody confirm if it's a 65k or 262k? Although it's the first time I hear about this difference and afaik 262k is not native for WM devices.
is the Pro 288 MB RAM vs diamond 192MB RAM
I live with my hermes more than 2 years so the size is not the problem (IMO no phone could beat the hermes (Iphone, Kaiser...) but the Touch pro is the killer)
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Oops, sorry bout that.
Well since Diamond is already out can somebody confirm if it's a 65k or 262k? Although it's the first time I hear about this difference and afaik 262k is not native for WM devices.
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Well, I was kinda hoping that it would be true. I'll show you the sources:
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/read.php?id=2917&ch=1 (newsarticle, in dutch)
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/specs.php?id=2521 (spec page diamond)
http://www.gsmhelpdesk.nl/specs.php?id=2522 (spec page raphael)
I assumed these were the right specifications, but hey, you made me doubt myself .
Wouldn't count on that. I guess it's the only site stating that. Check this too. It's absolutely the same display.
http://samsungomnia.com/
Guys this thing is Diamond killer..
firstime911 said:
http://samsungomnia.com/
Guys this thing is Diamond killer..
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the moste important fact for me was the vga resolution on the diamond, the samsung has only a 240x400 resolution...
thats more like a killer armed with a watergun
I have to agree with chaos42. While the Samsung is a slick device, resolution is a HUGE deal. Once you go VGA, you can't go back. Of course, WVGA would be nice...
Also, it looks like the TD is somewhat significantly smaller... Also a huge deal. I love having a phone that does so much more than an iPhone AND is smaller...
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Meanwhile the extra size and keyboard problems would be considerably harder to solve - you can't compress the phone, but you can compress files!
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I'm only just getting onto the whole TP idea (afte considering an Xperia), but I'm currently on a Nokia N95 which is 99 x 53 x 21. The TP/Raphael is 102 x 51 x 18...so for me it'll be smaller!!
See, when you compare an N95, which although big, is a great device, yet still easy enough to put in one hand, you can see that the Pro really isn't huge...
And compared to the old HTC Universal, they're ALL teeny tiny. And compared to my truck - I could carry around a phone-booth and it would be small. I can't think of any phones that wouldn't "fit in a hand". The quest for ever-smaller devices is more about what fits in your pockets than your hand, and to that point - I have found that anything with a physical keyboard is going to be too big.
And my athena too It's tiny compared to that
Im Confused about how Device Resolutions work .
i mean like all new htc ppc devices have a 2.8" lcd yet the resolutions are diffrent like the htc touch hermes kaiser gene they all Qvga 240x320 but diamond also 2.8" but it has VGA how does it work.
the one Asus Smartphone has a 2.0" screen but its QVGA or but the HTC 310 and ipaq 500 voice messenger and maybe mpx200 are QQVGA its so flipin confusing.
So is the resolution set through registry or drivers or what? I read in the typhoon section of a Wm6 cooked rom being able to make the htc typhoon resolution to QVGA.
defcomg said:
Im Confused about how Device Resolutions work .
i mean like all new htc ppc devices have a 2.8" lcd yet the resolutions are diffrent like the htc touch hermes kaiser gene they all Qvga 240x320 but diamond also 2.8" but it has VGA how does it work.
the one Asus Smartphone has a 2.0" screen but its QVGA or but the HTC 310 and ipaq 500 voice messenger and maybe mpx200 are QQVGA its so flipin confusing.
So is the resolution set through registry or drivers or what? I read in the typhoon section of a Wm6 cooked rom being able to make the htc typhoon resolution to QVGA.
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The device resolution is built into the actual screen. The resolution is the number of dots that are found on one row or column of the screen. QVGA has 240x320 dots that make up the screen matrix. VGA (at least) doubles these numbers to 480x640.
If you see devices that have the same SIZE screens (2.8"), but different resolutions, that means the DOTs are different sizes. A VGA screen will often have smaller dots than QGVA, and as such, better resolution that looks clearer to your eyes.
One can use software to emulate a lower-resolution screen on a higher-resolution device, but not vice-versa. So a VGA screen COULD be made to appear as a QVGA screen, but not the other way around.
Hoping this doesn't muddy up the waters for you even more,
-pvs
in simple terms.
qvga (240*320) will consume same amount of graphic memory be it 2" screen or 2.8" or 3.5" or 1 square kilometre!
lcd screens are built with fixed amount of pixels, but density varies with size and resolution.
anda q
Thanks i Get It nw.
Another Question how come all Windowr Mobile device Are 65k none are Greater than that compared to Symbians 16 Million Colours i knw its the os limitation but how ?
defcomg said:
Thanks i Get It nw.
Another Question how come all Windowr Mobile device Are 65k none are Greater than that compared to Symbians 16 Million Colours i knw its the os limitation but how ?
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It's quite a read, but THIS ARTICLE might help you understand. If you need more, an internet search should turn up quite a bit of information ... especially in some of the digital photography forums.
-pvs
That Was Long flip
Yeah i get it now bigger not always better but being as that maybe my hp ipaq 514 compared to the 6110 Navigator the nokia looks better but i think its the brightness anyhow 65k is good. Its True what they say knowlage is power so people who dont know are mislead when the told a device is 262k or better thanks man
I understand that this may be a slightly biased place to ask the question but...
Touch HD vs. Diamond 2....
Specs, speed, software, features please.... I can't decide which one to get.
Bellers said:
I understand that this may be a slightly biased place to ask the question but...
Touch HD vs. Diamond 2....
Specs, speed, software, features please.... I can't decide which one to get.
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You are asking the impossible. Nobody from here can pick a device for you...
Try here ...
K
If you want an official upgrade to Winmo 6.5, and potentially Winmo 7, go for the TD2. Microsoft are christening 6.5 and beyond as "windows phone" rather than "windows mobile" and have specified that windows phones must have a flag button (and presumably other hardware stuff). Going forward, I wouldn't be surprised if the TD2 were to get a winmo 7 upgrade for a fee, but it's looking like the Touch HD will not get any official upgrades. There's always the unofficial ROMs on here, of course, but personally I like to keep to official ROMs for the phone I use for running my business.
Just a thought.
Jim Coleman said:
Going forward, I wouldn't be surprised if the TD2 were to get a winmo 7 upgrade for a fee.
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Personally I'd be astounded. WM7 is a long way off really.
andyturner said:
Personally I'd be astounded. WM7 is a long way off really.
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It may be a long way off, but you have to look at Microsoft's roadmap. WM6.5 and WM7 are both on the same "path" - they are both "Windows Phone" operating systems. The new branding implies a new stance regarding OS updates, and it's this that makes me think upgrades will be offered to all "Windows Phone" owners. The TD2 and TP2 are the first "Windows Phones" on the market, and therefore stand a much better chance of receiving WM7 when it's available than the HD does.
Jim Coleman said:
It may be a long way off, but you have to look at Microsoft's roadmap. WM6.5 and WM7 are both on the same "path" - they are both "Windows Phone" operating systems. The new branding implies a new stance regarding OS updates, and it's this that makes me think upgrades will be offered to all "Windows Phone" owners. The TD2 and TP2 are the first "Windows Phones" on the market, and therefore stand a much better chance of receiving WM7 when it's available than the HD does.
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Nope They will not be upgradable to WM7. Not a single phone avalaible now meets the specs requirements of WM7.
WM7 Chassis 1 Specification
Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size)
Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal
Touch: Multi-touch required
Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements.
Controls: Start, Back, Send and End are required (soft controls allowed as long as they are always present).
Peripherals:
Camera: 3MP+, flash optional, 2nd camera optional (VGA resolution sufficient)
GPS: aGPS required
Sensors required: Light Sensor, Compass (3 axis, 5 degrees, 100 Hz sample rate), Accelerometer (3 axis, 2mg resolution, 100 Hz sample rate)
USB: High speed required, 20 MB/s transfer rate.
BlueTooth: BT2.1 required, must run MSFT BT stack, CSR BlueCore6 or later recommended.
Wi-Fi: 802.11B/G required, must run MSFT Native Wi-Fi stack, Atheros 6002 or Broadcomm 4325 recommended.
Connectors: Micro USB and 3.5mm Audio required.
Options:
FM tuner: If tuner HW is present it will be detected and supported by the Media application.
Haptics
SD Card (Micro SD recommended)
DPAD, qwerty or 12/20 key keyboards all optional
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2752
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Nope They will not be upgradable to WM7. Not a single phone avalaible now meets the specs requirements of WM7.
WM7 Chassis 1 Specification
Core requirements:
Processor: ARM v6+, L2 Cache, VFP, Open GL ES 2.0 graphics HW (QCOM 8k, Nvidia AP15/16* and TI 3430 all meet spec)
Memory: 256MB+ DRAM, 1G+ Flash (at least 512MB fast flash – 5MB/s unbuffered read @4K block size)
Display: WVGA (800×480) or FWVGA (854×480) 3.5” or greater diagonal
Touch: Multi-touch required
Battery: Sufficient to meet Days of Use LTK requirements.
Controls: Start, Back, Send and End are required (soft controls allowed as long as they are always present).
Peripherals:
Camera: 3MP+, flash optional, 2nd camera optional (VGA resolution sufficient)
GPS: aGPS required
Sensors required: Light Sensor, Compass (3 axis, 5 degrees, 100 Hz sample rate), Accelerometer (3 axis, 2mg resolution, 100 Hz sample rate)
USB: High speed required, 20 MB/s transfer rate.
BlueTooth: BT2.1 required, must run MSFT BT stack, CSR BlueCore6 or later recommended.
Wi-Fi: 802.11B/G required, must run MSFT Native Wi-Fi stack, Atheros 6002 or Broadcomm 4325 recommended.
Connectors: Micro USB and 3.5mm Audio required.
Options:
FM tuner: If tuner HW is present it will be detected and supported by the Media application.
Haptics
SD Card (Micro SD recommended)
DPAD, qwerty or 12/20 key keyboards all optional
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2752
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Man I feel sucky already.....
Haha! Fair enough, I stand corrected, looks like a good excuse for a new phone an a year or so then :O)
MAK11 said:
Nope They will not be upgradable to WM7. Not a single phone avalaible now meets the specs requirements of WM7.
WM7 Chassis 1 Specification
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http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2752
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Did you even read the whole blog post? Here are a few snippets you forgot to mention.
Blog title
Could this be the hardware spec for Microsoft's Pink phone?
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First up: A list of what may or may not be the final specs for the Windows Mobile 7 Chassis 1. Chassis 1 seems to be the the heart of the rumored “Pink” Microsoft phone and possibly other Windows Mobile 7 phones made by Microsoft partners.
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Some caveats about this list: Microsoft officials won’t talk publicly about Pink or Windows Mobile 7 (and only selectively about Windows Mobile 6.5) at this point. This information also is at least a few months old and may have changed a bit.
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And then the information you posted. So number 1 its not official, and number 2 it may not even be talking about minimum specs for WM7 but new hardware from Microsoft themselves. In saying all that its extremely unlikely that an official upgrade to WM7 will ever appear for Current phones, or even upcoming ones like the Touch Pro 2, purely because by the time WM7 launches they will be too old.
Haha again! Rumour quoted as truth eh!
Truth is, I'd love a Microsoft phone, at least if there were any probs it'd be all Microsoft's fault - none of this manufacturer-blames-os-maker-and-vice-versa crap!
All this info doesnt help much guys. We need someone who had touch HD and bought TD2 and he is happy for this reasons or unhappy for other reasons.
I have HD and thinking to sacrifice his bigger screen for 1)a new device and a 2)smaller size which makes it look more like a phone
if someone has done this "phone switch" plz make a fast review
I had a HD and lost it two weeks ago. I had it for 6 month and just watched one houre movie at that time. When I bought a new phone I had both of them in my hands and played around to see the difference. First the d2 is quicker and runs smoother. Not even that, the upgrade had added some good functionality in the contacts tab. I really like that you can see all emails and sms you sent or received from a contact. On my HD I used iContact, but dont need that anymore.
The size is also positive. It feels more like a phone than the HD. Feels right in the hand.
The bad part is the loss of the 3,5mm. I had to buy a usb->3.5mm converter and that is big and clumsy. Not good at al. My other concern is that I cant reach thumbcal from a appointment on the today tab.
If I lose my phon again I go for the d2 again. I am very very happy with it, and I was very happy with my old HD.
switched from HD to TD2
Kill_bill said:
All this info doesnt help much guys. We need someone who had touch HD and bought TD2 and he is happy for this reasons or unhappy for other reasons.
I have HD and thinking to sacrifice his bigger screen for 1)a new device and a 2)smaller size which makes it look more like a phone
if someone has done this "phone switch" plz make a fast review
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Hi,
I had the TouchHD for 5 months until I sold it to get the new TD2.
My actual reason was the size, the TD2 is really more like a phone now, whereas the HD was more like a PDA.
- the hardware is exactly the same (some other processor model I think, but exactly the same speed so no changes here)
- actually I liked the all-black design from the HD better, but the TD2 still looks very nice and high-class. The build quality is pretty much very high on both devices but the metal finish of the TD2 simulates better grade of quality. (I personally think that the TD2 is a little bit better built)
- the shipped software is a major improvment on the TD2. I had to install tons of apps and finally flash some really good ROMs (Dutty's Ship V3.3) to get a decent user interface. on the TD2 it's all here...even without the flashing.
- official winmo 6.5 update was very important to me (of yourse, there are cooked 6.5 roms for the touchHD but most of them are still very buggy and bear in mind that winmo 6.5 isn't officially released yet!)
- I love the new "start" key (which is the reason why the HD won't get an official update to 6.5). It makes it so much easier to operate your phone with one hand.
And the 4 hardware keys are now illuminated, which makes it a lot easier when it's dark. (and it's a cool looking white light!)
- I like the new speaker position (on the side instead of on the back). makes it easer to hear when your phone is on a bed/couch...
- the stylus isn't magnetically put into place any more, but I barely use it, so actually I don't care.
- The TD2 is 1mm thicker (not really noticeable)
- I was thrilled about the 3,5mm jack of the HD but I actually didn't use it at all. (there is nothing like an ipod) so it was no downgrade for me.
- I feared that typing on the slightly smaller screen would be harder on the TD2 but you just have to get used to it! So for me there are no issues with the smaller sized screen...not with browsing (I do a lot), not for videos, not for tomtom nor anything else. (the screen was really huge on the HD, maybe a little bit too big for my taste...like I said...more PDA than phone)
And because of the smaller screen size but the same resolution, the images look a little bit crisper in comparison.
- I think that the background illumination is slightly higher on the TD2. In my opinion it's a little bit better to read from in bright daylight.
- It's a new device: nice to have a change and six more months warranty!
I think, I covered all my impressions after having the TD2 for about 2 weeks now. If you have any more questions PM me and I will be happy to answer.
...also see Brandon's comparison video @pocketnow.com
Having a really tough time deciding which to buy...
The TP2 does look very compelling in this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz4TKMypIg4&feature=channel_page
Well... The Diamond 2 has a better camera...
It might be a little smaller... and cheaper
The TP2 has a keyboard, And it has some interesting features for business men
In my country I'd pay 150€ extra for it... Which I wouldn't do.
If you need it for business, Take the TP2, If you just want an excellent phone... Go with the Diamond 2
jeutie said:
Well... The Diamond 2 has a better camera...
It might be a little smaller... and cheaper
The TP2 has a keyboard, And it has some interesting features for business men
In my country I'd pay 150€ extra for it... Which I wouldn't do.
If you need it for business, Take the TP2, If you just want an excellent phone... Go with the Diamond 2
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Agreed. Main factor for me was the size: TD2 is perfect in that respect for my kind of use, and I do not miss keyboard (if I have large amount of text to type, I have a laptop or a workstation anyway). Keyboards had much too much bulk for the advantage they offer imho...
Design-wise, the only think I would change on the TD2 would be a slightly larger screen, if that is possible keeping the overall size exactly the same, and more physical controls (side wheel for scrolling, more remappable buttons). At a led flash, mainly for having flashlight always handy ;-)
IMO People should not be having trouble with this decision.
You either want a phone with a physical keypad and don't mind it being slightly larger OR you would rather have a smaller phone instead of a physical keypad.
There are other differences but they are small.
One thing though .... the TF3D interface is obsessed with scrolling. On the T2 this can be like having to win a game of Teeter to be allowed to call someone or select an application. The physical keypad on the P2 has direction keys. Maybe someone can comment on where (what parts of TF3D) these can be used in.
If you turned off TF3D (escape from Teeter) then this won't be an issue.
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IMO People should not be having trouble with this decision.
You either want a phone with a physical keypad and don't mind it being slightly larger OR you would rather have a smaller phone instead of a physical keypad.
There are other differences but they are small.
One thing though .... the TF3D interface is obsessed with scrolling. On the T2 this can be like having to win a game of Teeter to be allowed to call someone or select an application. The physical keypad on the P2 has direction keys. Maybe someone can comment on where (what parts of TF3D) these can be used in.
If you turned off TF3D (escape from Teeter) then this won't be an issue.
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I agree... not sure why people really have difficulty here....
Absolutely. Turning off TF3D is the best thing I ever did on my TD2. My word does it fly now! And no more stoopid scrolling through enormous lists!
Jim Coleman said:
Absolutely. Turning off TF3D is the best thing I ever did on my TD2. My word does it fly now! And no more stoopid scrolling through enormous lists!
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Hi Jim,
I'm also pretty annoyed by the endless scrolling of TF3D and thinking of replacing it. With which "Home-Plugin" did you replace TF3D?
Is there a way to start the HTC Music player without TF3D?
Thanks and regards,
JTGBDR
jtgbdr said:
Hi Jim,
I'm also pretty annoyed by the endless scrolling of TF3D and thinking of replacing it. With which "Home-Plugin" did you replace TF3D?
Is there a way to start the HTC Music player without TF3D?
Thanks and regards,
JTGBDR
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I use all the standard plugins plus WMP Status 1.0, TodayAgenda and Cash Organizer 2008.
I don't use any "Today replacement" plugins because I actually use the standard Today screen and think it's the best way of getting all the info I want on one screen.
The TF3D music player needs to have TF3D enabled. I use WMP, hence the WMP Status Today plugin.
TodayAgenda is the best thing since the news of Jacqui Smith's sacking.
Check out my new in-depth review of the Touch Pro2.
The review has everything from hardware and gps testing to video benchmarking and gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ
A very detailed review with comparisons to the Touch Pro as well.
Part I: Build Quality, Qwerty Keyboard, Hardware, Speakerphone test
Part II: User interface, Camera, Gaming, GPS Navigation, Video Benchmark and Conclusion
-TheDudeLasse
thedudelasse said:
Check out my new in-depth review of the Touch Pro2.
The review has everything from hardware and gps testing to video benchmarking and gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ
A very detailed review with comparisons to the Touch Pro as well.
Part I: Build Quality, Qwerty Keyboard, Hardware, Speakerphone test
Part II: User interface, Camera, Gaming, GPS Navigation, Video Benchmark and Conclusion
-TheDudeLasse
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awesome review
thedudelasse said:
Check out my new in-depth review of the Touch Pro2.
The review has everything from hardware and gps testing to video benchmarking and gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ
A very detailed review with comparisons to the Touch Pro as well.
Part I: Build Quality, Qwerty Keyboard, Hardware, Speakerphone test
Part II: User interface, Camera, Gaming, GPS Navigation, Video Benchmark and Conclusion
-TheDudeLasse
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i couldn't decide wether to wait a month for the TP2 or go buy the TD2, congratulation you just convinced me to wait
Do you guys believe we will someday have the new Sense interface from HTC Hero for the Blackstone?
http://www.htc.com/de/press.aspx?id=103534&lang=1033
In this article (only in german, sorry) they say that it will be available also for Windows Mobile:
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Neue-Oberflaeche-fuer-Android--/meldung/141053
...dreaming...
/Tommi
yes we can!
lol yes.. i think so but it will sure take some time.. sad but true. altough i am looking forward a lot. android, sense and so on..
You can see it in action here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3yZjYbs6Mo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34B33kcJkP8
The famous multi-touch feature is there aswell.
The Hero looks awesome, but the screen is kinda small.
i was reading up on this on my rss feeds and the article i read said they that are thinkin about possibly porting this over to the windows mobile side which would be nice
in a way it reminds me of pointui a bit but if your lookin for something along those lines for windows mobile right now then ponitui is there
The Sense UI (or as HTC terms it, "user experience") riding a capacitive touchscreen offers a people-centric approach to managing your information that is absolutely dreamy at first blush -- though it shares a lot of TouchFLO heritage. In fact, HTC promises to have a very similar Sense-branded experience for Windows Mobile.
Usually, a new HTC device means new GPU drivers and a few tweaks, but now, we could get a whole new UI! That said, we'll have to wait for a WVGA HTC device with this Sense UI before it will look half-decent on our blackstones.
Half the juice on our phones is taken up by Windows. What would be awesome is if we can port Android. Another interesting thing to note is that Hero has a capacitive screen so I'm guessing it'll be a better experience (with multi touch). All said I can only drool. Wishes and regards to all the great chiefs
I think it includes a software multitouch system, because comparing specs of both devices, in the Screen we see:
HD: 3.8-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with 480 x 800 WVGA resolution
Hero: 3.2-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with 320x480 HVGA resolution
I know that Hero have multi touch because I saw it at the video presentation.
Let's hope that's true
vaurdan said:
I think it includes a software multitouch system, because comparing specs of both devices, in the Screen we see:
HD: 3.8-inch TFT-LCD flat touch-sensitive screen with 480 x 800 WVGA resolution
Hero: 3.2-inch TFT-LCD touch-sensitive screen with 320x480 HVGA resolution
I know that Hero have multi touch because I saw it at the video presentation.
Let's hope that's true
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yep, noticed that too and thought the same...
It does have multitouch, I read it in a review