I use Advanced task manager to kill apps and processes etc. But when trying to terminate things from the processes list, for example IM which I don't use at all, I tick it and click end but when I refresh it generally comes back straight away. It uses quite a bit of memory. Does anyone know why this happens?
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some processes are needed for the system to function correctly..... eg, Im might be tied in with your text messages , so if you kill it , when a message comes in then you have to wait for it to restart , before it gets displayed ,,,then you will report that your texts are slow on incoming ..... Android OS is not like windows mobile , infact if you do a logcat or you have the sdk ,,run the debuger and you will see that all running processes are idle untill called upon... these processes use almost no memory or power while in idle ... Please run these test for your self so you can get a better understanding of the Android OS ,,, hope this helps
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I have tons of apps, but none should be running in background except a few,
Right now Bar control and Sim checker should be only ones running in background. But yet the phone is acting so slow, So I wonder if there's more apps running in background I cant see or something that slowing down the phone
So can someone post the name of any app that can see EVERY SINGLE thing running in background but easily enough someone noob as me at this phone can understand, I had one but was all codes and I could not make heads or tails, I just want to know whats running thats making it act so damn slow
second, does sim checker or bar control take up lot of cpu or memory? or anything? if they do, or does anyone know any other apps that take up a lot of resources from the system so I know to get rid of them or prevent me downloading them in the future
If you install Terminal Emulator you can run the linux command top to get a realtime list of running processes and their cpu usage.
Hi, I'm the dev of SIM Checker. Actually it just checks at boot if the sim card is the correct one, and if so it stops itself. So it's not using any cpu and the garbage collector will kill it when there's need of memory - if you want you can manually kill it.
Well thats good to hear...Sim checker is great app, ok so I did the command in the terminal but wont let me scroll up so I cant see everything
do it on the pc through adb shell
i just uninstalled
wertago phonebook and quickoffice.
they all ran in the background right from the startup which is gay. i would have kept them if they wouldn't restart them self after a reboot or after i close them trhough task manager
How do I run it from adb shell in my pc?
Also ya the advance task manager I have I close everything before I do anything else and the services have no apps running I downloaded so why is it so slow? is there something besides a service that can run in background from an app? even with that "top" command in terminal everything besides like 2 system things are 0% cpu..but does not show memory usage
After switching from Magic to Hero (which is a great improvement!) I've noticed that there are a couple of new recurring processes on the Taskiller list, which I have never seen before on the Magic; eg: com.htc.provider.weather, HTC locatiediens (=localisation service, in Dutch), com.htc.socialnetwork.provider, HTC media uploader; beside TouchInput and Touchflow, which I've already put on my ignore list.
I assume these are specific Sense processes, partly vital for the UI; is there anybody who could give a list of the vital processes, we should put on the ignore list and/ or a list of processes which are safe to kill if system slows down?
I've already contacted the dev of Taskiller; but he says he has no Hero experience, so cannot advice on this issue..
Any advice is welcome, thanks in advance!
Balazs
I have the same question...
It would be great if we know whixh process correspond to what
I fiddled around with this and it's safe to kill everything. The vital processes will just start right up again. socialnetwork.provider and provider.weather are, I'm assuming, to do with Facebook/Google integration and weather widget/applications respectively. If you're going to be killing processes regularly, I'd suggest you put touchflo and touch input in the ignore list, as they need to be running constantly for the UI to work. You can kill them, but the phone will hang for a few seconds while they restart.
I think maybe I'm confused on what a Task Manager/Killer is supposed to do I've tried so many of them & I'm just not finding what I'm looking for I thought that a Task Killer would kill the selected Task ? but again & again, I kill the Task & a few seconds later..... poof, it's back ? Now I know not to kill certain things & bloatware can't be killed (no root) but I mean things like facebook, or IM, or Yahoo mail, or News ? Dumb stuff. Even if I add them to autoKill... poof, comes right back I just don't get it ? Why have a Task killer that doesn't kill tasks ? I've tried task killers on like 3, or 4 different android devices too, not just my Bionic & always with the same results
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I think maybe I'm confused on what a Task Manager/Killer is supposed to do I've tried so many of them & I'm just not finding what I'm looking for I thought that a Task Killer would kill the selected Task ? but again & again, I kill the Task & a few seconds later..... poof, it's back ? Now I know not to kill certain things & bloatware can't be killed (no root) but I mean things like facebook, or IM, or Yahoo mail, or News ? Dumb stuff. Even if I add them to autoKill... poof, comes right back I just don't get it ? Why have a Task killer that doesn't kill tasks ? I've tried task killers on like 3, or 4 different android devices too, not just my Bionic & always with the same results
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This is why everyone who knows anything about android will tell you not to install task killers, they actually slow your phone down and drain more battery because its always reloading apps. There is no way around this if you are not rooted, if your rooted and find that you don't have enough RAM then use autokiller to set the RAM usage parameters.
Does stopping running processes from the Manage Applications settings have any permanent effect on the phone? If I turn off the phone and turn it on again, will it fix whatever I stopped?
It's ok right to turn off processes? Nothing is really deleted right? Sorry, I'm new to android and smart phones in general/
Running processes are running programmes located in the RAM, so turn them off will only stop them running without wipe them from storage.
Not sure why you want to manually stop running processes, it’s likely they will auto restart after a while anyway. Beside Gingerbread is quite good at manage running apps, so there really is not a need to manually terminate running processes.
Nope. It will not have any permanent effect. You'll just clean up your RAM a bit, but everything you stopped will be started again when you turn on your phone or even in a few seconds.
Agree with the user above about Gingerbread app managing.
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In my opinion, the *only* reason to manually stop a process is because it's gone rogue and slowing down your device.
Any form of automatic task killing is ultimately counter-productive!
Regards,
Dave
If you root u device, u can use "Gemini App" to kill apps permanently. Just select them and mark " block", u also can kill processes completely and configure the auto-run
I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?
if you rooted, you can use Autostarts or ROM toolbox from the playstore. it can change the receivers of the apps not to start at boot
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I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?
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The simple answer is that you don't need to stop them!
As you say, Android is already very good at keeping track of background processes, to the extent that if a new program needs more RAM, Android itself will kill a background process that hasn't been used for a while to free up RAM for the new program.
The Cached processes screen SHOULD be full of recently used programs; it shows that Android is doing what it is supposed to do and is shifting inactive processes out of active RAM in case you want to load it again, without completely dumping the process memory.
Now, as for the side effect you mentioned, that would be a significant hit on battery life. By holding programs in RAM as it is supposed to do, the OS can load the program quickly and cleanly and more efficiently by simply reading the RAM rather than reading flash, writing to RAM, then reading from RAM. The general mantra for UNIX based systems is that unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Another thing to note is that if you do not close tabs when switching active programs (including going to homescreen) then the Browser is designed to hold that tab in memory. Even if you close the Browser (excluding closing the tab specifically with the "little x"). Even if you reboot the damn phone, it will still load the tabs/pages you had open last. The pages are not held in memory as such, just what was open and what tab order, so if you do open the browser after a while, it will load the last page from scratch.
TL;DR version: The running and the cached processes will remain exactly where they are until a new program needs more RAM than is available, at which point Android will kill something to make room. You do not need to do this manually. It will cause more power drain by making very inefficient use of RAM/Flash memory. Empty RAM is wasted RAM.
whilst Chaos is right, I notice severe performance drops when ram is filled, despite Androids theoretical advantage. It doesnt work...
Best to prevent from loading altogheter.
Root, lose warranty, backup apps, uninstall or freeze apps so the bloatware is removed.
For others, change autostart settings in Romtoolbox. So they wont start on boot.
Search for safe stuff to delete. There are lists for that
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Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
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Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
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Lol, even then you might still need to remove bloatware lol
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Thanks so much for detailed answers.