Questions about bootloaders/flashing/sim unlocking - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm going to be getting a G1 pretty soon and just wanted to make sure I have the right story before I start flashing things and make a mistake.
1) I know if I want to keep my root access I need to use a custom firmware. It seems like jesusFreke's is the most widely used/best, is that the case? what are my other options and what's the difference between them?
2) Bootloaders: it seems like hardspl is the bootloader most people use, is that the case? What's the difference between the bootloaders (mainly hardspl and the engineering bootloader)
3) Sim unlocking: I get the sense that once the phone has been unlocked with a code it will always stay unlocked no matter what else I do to it, is that the case? Also is it the case the T-mobile (USA) will only give me an unlock code if I'm a t-mobile customer (which I'm not). Also I gather there is no way to unlock other than getting a code, is that so?
4) Any other good resources? I found the wiki here at xda helpful, are there any other good resources for hacking up a G1, especially for someone new to the scene?
Thanks,
Luke

1: Jesusfreke's roms are possibly the most stable and are basically just a plain ROM, not much done to them, perfect if you want to stay basic. Cyanogen's are my favorite, alot faster, more features, and mostly stable, ideal if you're one for added features and coolness. Hero ROMs tend to be a little slow, and some features don't work such as bluetooth and they require the "danger" SPL, which leads me onto...
2: Hard SPL is definately the safest bet, if you follow the root instructions posted all over the forum you will have hard SPL. you can however take a risk and install the "danger"SPL, but you need a PVT board, and the latest radio installed before you even think about it, not sure if you have a PVT board or latest radio? not sure how to check? don't bother, it has a chance to brick your phone. advantages of the special SPL are more space so you you can flash a hero ROM, and just generally more space.
3: unlock can only be done by codes at the moment. safest way to get unlock code is to be a t-mobile customer and ask t-mobile for it. there are other sites out there claiming they can give you the unlock code, but use these at your own risk.
4: there are other forums, i'm not linking to any because i can't remember most of the addresses, but XDA will always be the best. there was a post a few days ago about a new forum starting up, but that seems dead to me, so i'll not bother telling you more.
hope i answered all your questions to a satisfactory level... i'm sort of a n00b, but this info is basically everything that i understand

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i tried to update G4 rom using the Molski... now only rainbow screen

I cant do anything with it anymore. when i first turn it on the cingular screen comes on and then it goes into the rainbow (bootloader?). how do i fix it from here now?
nimski62 said:
I cant do anything with it anymore. when i first turn it on the cingular screen comes on and then it goes into the rainbow (bootloader?). how do i fix it from here now?
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You really need to post more information. Phone 'G' version, what ROM you were on before, service provider, whether or not you are certain your phone was unlocked (CID, etc). Otherwise, it is like asking 'why does it rain mainly on the plain in Spain?'
--M
How did you know it was a G4? Did you follow the instructions to the letter?
peraltah said:
How did you know it was a G4? Did you follow the instructions to the letter?
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I was pretty sure that i had seen this username before. If you look for the thread labeled "Please fix the link. Rom is needed." you will find this user asking for the link to be fixed and in the next post you see somebody (brooks.nl) providing him/her with a link to a G4 ROM. I'd say that the OP didn't know that there were G3 and G4 phones out there and now we see the results. Just another case of RTFM. Sad really
Kirby
if you are in rainbow (color mode) = bootloader, then it shows to you IPL and SPL
If you have in the ednd of it .0001, then your device is still alive.. Just download any official ROM for your Device and connect it via cabel with PC and the go just like it is connected via Active Sync.
Active Sync is not running, but the flash would be OK and your device alive again
And what if the IPL and SPL are 1.03...... I've tried to downgrade to unlock the sim, but it failed. Since than I have got the rainbow screen.
Can anyone please advice me what to do.....
I know.........RTFM.......
If it was a G4...
If the IPL/SPL before you started had .0001 on them then you have flashed an incompatible bootloader into your G4 device and have bricked it.
If your device was 1.03 to start with then it is a G3 and you flashed a 2.xx rom into a 1.xx bootloader which again doesn't work (G4 safe roms do not include the bootloaders.) In this situation you can recover your device by installing an official 2.xx carrier rom into your phone. And never mix bootloaders again Once this is done if you are CID unlocked then you will be able to install a custom 2.xx rom of your choice.
G3 and G4 bootloaders are not interchangeable. More G4 phones have been bricked on this forum than really should have been for this very reason, read, read, read and when you think you have read enough, read some more. If you have a G4 device the only way that I have read on these forums to CID unlock was to pay a fee to a website to do it for you - Which many people have done and report that it works well.
If your device was a G3 to start with then you might be able to re-flash an official carrier rom (from your carrier) into the phone to revive it. Check their customer service/support website for that information on where to download a release. If you are a Cingular customer you can download this rom from the HTC website (don't know about other carriers)
Things you really should know before you flash:
1. Is my device a G3 or G4?
2. Is my device a G3 or G4?
3. Is my device a G3 or G4?
4. Is my device a G3 or G4?
5. Am I willing to have a failure that will leave me with a worthless piece of electronics?
6. Do I have a real NEED to upgrade or change roms?
7. Have I read and understand how to unlock my phone (if not going with a carrier rom from the carrier to which your phone is locked.)
8. Do I know how to boot into bootloader mode?
9. Do I have a backup plan for re-charging the battery if it becomes discharged completely -- Shouldn't be necessary but lots of people including me have made a mistake and gotten their phones in a state where it will not charge.
10. Do I understand how the flash process works, where will it pause, how long will it pause, can I go without my phone for this period of time?
11. Have I spent a good deal of time reading as many threads on upgrading/flashing/unlocking/identifying as I can in a 2 week period. If you just got your phone.
12. Have I backed up all the information on my phone that I may or will need once the flash is successful?
13. Have I read the entire thread on the rom that I wish to install to see what issues others have encountered while downloading, installing, running/using and how they fixed or worked around them?
14. Is my device a G3 or G4 and do I have the appropriate rom?
Really, the people here aren't trying to be rude or jerks, the problem is that most newcomers to the boards jump in with both feet without reading all of the very well written tutorials and fully heeding the warnings included with them, and invariably they all ask THE SAME questions, because they either A. don't know how to search (yes, we all know the built in search function leaves alot to be desired. -- Use Google) B. are too lazy to search/read and want to be spoon fed. C. really believe that they are the first person to have said issue.
The sad fact is that most people that brick their phones have no good reason to have upgraded in the first place.
I hope your phone was indeed a G3 to start with and you can revive it with a carrier rom. If not then this is a very expensive lesson, and I am sorry that you had to learn it like so many others this way.
Zzan said:
If the IPL/SPL before you started had .0001 on them then you have flashed an incompatible bootloader into your G4 device and have bricked it.
If your device was 1.03 to start with then it is a G3 and you flashed a 2.xx rom into a 1.xx bootloader which again doesn't work (G4 safe roms do not include the bootloaders.) In this situation you can recover your device by installing an official 2.xx carrier rom into your phone. And never mix bootloaders again Once this is done if you are CID unlocked then you will be able to install a custom 2.xx rom of your choice.
G3 and G4 bootloaders are not interchangeable. More G4 phones have been bricked on this forum than really should have been for this very reason, read, read, read and when you think you have read enough, read some more. If you have a G4 device the only way that I have read on these forums to CID unlock was to pay a fee to a website to do it for you - Which many people have done and report that it works well.
If your device was a G3 to start with then you might be able to re-flash an official carrier rom (from your carrier) into the phone to revive it. Check their customer service/support website for that information on where to download a release. If you are a Cingular customer you can download this rom from the HTC website (don't know about other carriers)
Things you really should know before you flash:
1. Is my device a G3 or G4?
2. Is my device a G3 or G4?
3. Is my device a G3 or G4?
4. Is my device a G3 or G4?
5. Am I willing to have a failure that will leave me with a worthless piece of electronics?
6. Do I have a real NEED to upgrade or change roms?
7. Have I read and understand how to unlock my phone (if not going with a carrier rom from the carrier to which your phone is locked.)
8. Do I know how to boot into bootloader mode?
9. Do I have a backup plan for re-charging the battery if it becomes discharged completely -- Shouldn't be necessary but lots of people including me have made a mistake and gotten their phones in a state where it will not charge.
10. Do I understand how the flash process works, where will it pause, how long will it pause, can I go without my phone for this period of time?
11. Have I spent a good deal of time reading as many threads on upgrading/flashing/unlocking/identifying as I can in a 2 week period. If you just got your phone.
12. Have I backed up all the information on my phone that I may or will need once the flash is successful?
13. Have I read the entire thread on the rom that I wish to install to see what issues others have encountered while downloading, installing, running/using and how they fixed or worked around them?
14. Is my device a G3 or G4 and do I have the appropriate rom?
Really, the people here aren't trying to be rude or jerks, the problem is that most newcomers to the boards jump in with both feet without reading all of the very well written tutorials and fully heeding the warnings included with them, and invariably they all ask THE SAME questions, because they either A. don't know how to search (yes, we all know the built in search function leaves alot to be desired. -- Use Google) B. are too lazy to search/read and want to be spoon fed. C. really believe that they are the first person to have said issue.
The sad fact is that most people that brick their phones have no good reason to have upgraded in the first place.
I hope your phone was indeed a G3 to start with and you can revive it with a carrier rom. If not then this is a very expensive lesson, and I am sorry that you had to learn it like so many others this way.
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Congratulations you get it. This is a very well written piece that I hope all newcomers to this site read. Heck maybe we should make them read it before they can move forward. Just a thought.
Kirby
Zzan said:
If the IPL/SPL before you started had .0001 on them then you have flashed an incompatible bootloader into your G4 device and have bricked it.
If your device was 1.03 to start with then it is a G3 and you flashed a 2.xx rom into a 1.xx bootloader which again doesn't work (G4 safe roms do not include the bootloaders.) In this situation you can recover your device by installing an official 2.xx carrier rom into your phone. And never mix bootloaders again Once this is done if you are CID unlocked then you will be able to install a custom 2.xx rom of your choice.
G3 and G4 bootloaders are not interchangeable. More G4 phones have been bricked on this forum than really should have been for this very reason, read, read, read and when you think you have read enough, read some more. If you have a G4 device the only way that I have read on these forums to CID unlock was to pay a fee to a website to do it for you - Which many people have done and report that it works well.
If your device was a G3 to start with then you might be able to re-flash an official carrier rom (from your carrier) into the phone to revive it. Check their customer service/support website for that information on where to download a release. If you are a Cingular customer you can download this rom from the HTC website (don't know about other carriers)
Things you really should know before you flash:
1. Is my device a G3 or G4?
2. Is my device a G3 or G4?
3. Is my device a G3 or G4?
4. Is my device a G3 or G4?
5. Am I willing to have a failure that will leave me with a worthless piece of electronics?
6. Do I have a real NEED to upgrade or change roms?
7. Have I read and understand how to unlock my phone (if not going with a carrier rom from the carrier to which your phone is locked.)
8. Do I know how to boot into bootloader mode?
9. Do I have a backup plan for re-charging the battery if it becomes discharged completely -- Shouldn't be necessary but lots of people including me have made a mistake and gotten their phones in a state where it will not charge.
10. Do I understand how the flash process works, where will it pause, how long will it pause, can I go without my phone for this period of time?
11. Have I spent a good deal of time reading as many threads on upgrading/flashing/unlocking/identifying as I can in a 2 week period. If you just got your phone.
12. Have I backed up all the information on my phone that I may or will need once the flash is successful?
13. Have I read the entire thread on the rom that I wish to install to see what issues others have encountered while downloading, installing, running/using and how they fixed or worked around them?
14. Is my device a G3 or G4 and do I have the appropriate rom?
Really, the people here aren't trying to be rude or jerks, the problem is that most newcomers to the boards jump in with both feet without reading all of the very well written tutorials and fully heeding the warnings included with them, and invariably they all ask THE SAME questions, because they either A. don't know how to search (yes, we all know the built in search function leaves alot to be desired. -- Use Google) B. are too lazy to search/read and want to be spoon fed. C. really believe that they are the first person to have said issue.
The sad fact is that most people that brick their phones have no good reason to have upgraded in the first place.
I hope your phone was indeed a G3 to start with and you can revive it with a carrier rom. If not then this is a very expensive lesson, and I am sorry that you had to learn it like so many others this way.
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DING DING DING, we have a winner!!!! Well put.
--M
WOW guys.. i didnt brick anything. It IS a g4, but i wasnt aware of the CID stuff. I guess it just did the bootloader thing bc those roms needed the device to be CID unlocked. i installed wizard love's rom onit and it seems to be working perfectly. I would just like to know if there is any other roms with a different radio version.. bc sometimes if i randomly look at my device it will have 0 bars. would a diff radio version fix this?
nimski62 said:
WOW guys.. i didnt brick anything. It IS a g4, but i wasnt aware of the CID stuff. I guess it just did the bootloader thing bc those roms needed the device to be CID unlocked. i installed wizard love's rom onit and it seems to be working perfectly. I would just like to know if there is any other roms with a different radio version.. bc sometimes if i randomly look at my device it will have 0 bars. would a diff radio version fix this?
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Glad you got it working.
There are radio only roms that you can download and install but, I am not sure if you need to be CID unlocked to install them.
The latest Official Cingular radio and the one I am currently using (see my sig) are the ones I recommend.
These roms do not contain bootloaders, OS or extended rom so your settings are preserved when installing them and should be safe to install on a G4. But as always I would talk to someone/search through here for someone that knows more about flashing a G4 to see if you need to pay to get your CID unlocked.
you can flash the radio rom i flashed 2.47 radio rom and use the wizard love flash
okay so where exactly can i get the 2.47 radio rom?. also cant i use the risidoro ROM with my CID locked g4? or is that impossible?. where exactly would i find the 2.46 radio rom?

Can somone please, going to cry in several seconds

my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
jawnsixteen said:
my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
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reset and hold the camera button,you will see a 3 color screen...connect to the PC it should say usb in the bottom of the device screen....now install the latest update from your carrier.
PS
for future reference if you device is ended CID unlocked you do not need to use shelltools...just use the update utility provided by the rom.
also this info has been posted 1 trilion times
..........
Its not that hard to look at the stickies (thats were the really important stuff is located).
Here's a great post for you to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and when i powered on it wasn't your rom it was the one i had on it before with some things different, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the shelltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
jawnsixteen said:
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
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A really useful thread (besides the WIKI is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613 it, by the way, is the very first item on the WM6 forum, this forum has Dr. P's EXCELLENT thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 plus other useful stickies) It seems that your phone is 'working' after flashing the TMo 2.26, the first thing you need to do is find out if you have a G3 or a G4, then CID unlock appropriately. Skip the shelltool stuff for now, if you don't understand what phone you have, you will be on the road to "brick city".
--M
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
jawnsixteen said:
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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CID unlocking (as far as I know) won't void your warrantee--at least it hasn't voided mine (TMo US), but YMMV. That said, it isn't a bad thing to ask for help, (cross posting is generally frowned on) we like to help people who aren't lazy or stupid.
When you do post for help, generally the more info provided the better, but I sense you know that. If your phone is a G3, I am not really sure why you are seeking help in the G4 forum....anyway.
IMHO, Faria's WM6 works really well, and I haven't had serious issues with it. There are others that love different ROMs or will cook their own, great! Nottoosmart has a good looking ROM (a Mun derivative ROM) everyone will have an opinion, I know what works well for me. So "what is the best"? Hmm Faria's WM6 (for me).
--Mark
jawnsixteen said:
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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While keeping your phone CID Locked does keep you from voiding your warranty in that respect, flashing a custom rom on your phone will technically void your warranty also (although unless do something nasty to it, you should be able to get it back to the official rom and with it still CID locked then you should be fine). Example: You flash the latest and greatest WM6 on your phone and then your USB connector breaks and your SD slot doesn't work. You now can't get back to WM5 so they will know if they look. Far fetched, but I'm just throwing it out that if you are really concerned about your warranty, flashing custom roms may not be a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you not to do it, I'm just saying that doing pretty much anything in the upgrading and WM6 forums here is basically voiding your warranty. But I think in most cases, the carriers don't look that close.
And please ask for assistance when you have issues. There are so many posts though, its hard to tell who has really read and who hasn't sometimes. Just remember that the stickies at the top of the forums are your friends and there is really good info there to help you get unstuck (most of the time).
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Should I get a TyTn?

Morning all
I have been offered a swap for my iPhone for a brand new boxed Orange TyTn II and Im just wondering if its worth doing?
I have had previous windows mobile phones and do like the phones so I am considering the trade, I am currently on o2.
The thing is i have read all the posts about unlocking and flashing roms etc and im a little on edge about doing it myself as im sure i will break it lol
I would basically need to sim unlock the phone and remove all the orange software as I think it looks naff!
How much work is envolved in doing what i need and how long would it take?
Sorry if im repeating a post, im not the best at forums and get lost with all this info you guys have!
Cheers
Sy
Absolutely YES!!!
There is no contest. The TyTN II wins hands down!!!
Leave well enough alone. Perhaps get a sim unlocker. Just do a search and you should find something. But don't play around with flashing roms etc. You may regret it.
Use the HTC original apps which you will find on a sticky at the beginning of this forum.
You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
I'm wondering if i should get a TyTn 2 now or wait for a Xperia.
Checked out the TyTn at a store a couple of days ago and i loved it, the only thing i didnt like was that it doesnt have a radio. Then i read around in this forum and came across the driver problems and the touchscreen bug and due to them i'm more inclined to wait for Xperia, but then i checked out Xperia's design and i didnt like the way the keyboard slides to, makes you operate the joystick with the right hand instead of the left and that's kind of uncomfortable.
seriously, who uses radio? I stream my Sirius satalite radio..
Sirius Pwnz AM/FM
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Audio said:
You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
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dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
jonneymendoza said:
dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
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Yes you MUST CID unlock as well (unless it has already been done, which is doubtful if it is on Orange).
My advice...Before even getting the TYTN II, read the sticky's and Wikis in the upgrading ROM section at least 3 times over to ensure you have an idea of what you are going to need to do before even doing anything. when you think you understand it, read them again.
Then go ahead and flash any ROM you fancy and enjoy the benfits of the TYTN II voer the Iphone.
HardSPL is the replacement bootloader that allows you to install an non original ROM.
Im on T mobile and i hav heard that the ROM is not heavily branded. im just worried about bricking it. i already have the MDA viara 3.
reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 doing hardspl, does that automaticly unlock the CID or is there another tool to do that? if so do CID unlock it first and then hardspl?
You will NEED to CID unlock AND HardSPL...Do not consider doing anything untill you are 100% certain of the steps you are performing and why, otherwise you will have a rather expensive paperweight.
EVERYTHING you need to know and more about Rom flashing is contained here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Seriously, ensure you read every link and sub link related to ROM flashing. Even make sure you read the "inspirational reading" bit, that will give you the confidence to try it.
As long as you read you will be fine.
When I was new here I spent 4 days solid reading reading and reading before biting the bullet and flashing my first ROM. At
Thanks for the advice. one small question. if i was to follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1790046&postcount=3 word for word i should be succesful?
there is one question i am still confused about and thats this hardspl/cid unlock. according to the Thread i linked, all i got to do is follow the guide from HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device (4 free) and bam im ready to Flash the ROM?
also what are the major benefits of flashing to a custom ROM?
does the procedure from that last link above hardspl AND CID at the same time?
hi i managed to hardspl my device succesfuly. so im ready to install a new cooked ROM? what are the best ROMS out there that i can try. i have seen dutty's ROM that many have used and was wondering if thats the best one
Does the DUTTY rom improve the camera and video playback?

New to my diamond, interested in a cooked ROM

Hi there, im fairly new to my Telus Diamond, i love this phone but its giving me some grief with the Touchflo3d being laggy etc...
Anyways I heard you can flash new ROMS that are custom and more stable and help out the phones performance a lot but i have a few questions before I flash.
Here's my phones specs before i ask my questions.
ROM Version: 1.06.661.1 (old i believe)
ROM Date: 07/21/08
Radio Version: 0.99.90v
Hardware Version 0080
and i dont think the rest is important.
And im usuing WM 6.1
ok now here are my questions:
1) If I flash to a cooked ROM, i heard it Erases EVERYTHING, so with that in mind, im a telus customer, does it effect my service plan, ex: can i still use my phone like i bought it and make txt msgs, emails, msn, phone calls etc.. or do i have to set it back up again?
2) Do i have to use the same Radio Version?
3) would my Current network number and Cureent Channel be changed? If so how does that effect my phone?
4) umm with my programs that are on my phone, ex: office mobile, WMP, MP3 trimmer remote desktop etc... will i still have those? Or will i loose the registration for them.
5) this is my last question i believe, would I have to dump my current stock ROM for a backup? Like is that recommended or is there a backup of my ROM already on this website.
I appreciate any help, and sorry for being such a noob. The only thing i've flashed before was a custom firmware on my PSP lol and that was reallly easy...
1)Yes it erases everything the easiest way to explain it is like this: "rom" stands for read only memory.... kind of like a cd rom. And the outcome is the same also, when you flash a new rom it is like writing a new cd image.
2) no you don't have to use the same radio version, but some roms will require certai n radios (most roms come packed with radios though so you shouldn't have to mess with it)
3) Flashing a new rom changes your phone but not your network (your number would still be the same)
4)You will lose anything you installed unless you back it up. Depending in the rom, office mobile and stuff like that might be preloaded.
5) There should be a backup on the website, a dump should not be necessary.
Again on the backup thing you will want to back up are your contacts sms emails ect anything you want to keep before flashing.
Flashing isn't hard, you just need to read the directions MAKE SURE YOU READ BEFORE YOU FLASH. like i said it isn't hard but if you don't read everything before you flash you may turn your phone into a very expensive paper weight.
PS here is a good place to start your reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Alright sweet thank you very much
Im not going to upgrade just yet though because i still want to learn more
about it and im iffy about it mainly cuz i still want to be able to make phone calls lol and i dont see anyone posting anything for the telus versions.
Oh and one more thing before I upgrade the ROM do i have to upgrade the HardSPL first? or can i just use the CID lock, then the ROM?
no, you defenetly would want to cid unlock first, otherwise you will trash your bootloader and brick your phone
ok so Cid unlock, HardSPL, then flash the rom
hard spl is cid unlock after unlocking you are free to flash away
Oh ok, gotcha haha
.. i hope
One more thing lol sorry...
Um that link you sent me for the steps
"[TUT]Complete upgrading guide (HardSPL+Radio+ROM) NOT FOR CDMA USERS!!!"
Well i dont know what CDMA means but Im pretty sure im a CMDA user. So is it safe to still fallow those directions? or must i need to do something different.
read post #4 in that thread, you can't miss it.
is it alright if my Diamond says DIAM500? on all the guides they say DIAM100, when you check the SPL, mine is stock and in the tri colored screen it says:
Security Unlocked
DIAM500 <------ (Do i have to find a ROM specific for this modle?)
SPL-0.57.0000 <------ (I dont see this ver. on the forums anywheres)
MircoP-Diam (LED) vB
PSOC-Diam STAGE_EVT v20
Serial
(its blank)
I didnt run any CID unlockers or anything, any insight?
Dang Telus...

Flashing with out a HardSpl,

It seems that it is possible to flash the HD2 with with out HardSpl, Is it possible to do this with the Tilt2/TouchPro2's ?
Anyone interesting taking on this project ?
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty..
This is worth reading, it is possible to flash without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, Here is the thread discussing it, hopefully this will be possible on the tilt2 in the near future.
HD2 ROM Development
[SSPL] HowTo flash cooked ROM without HSPL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
Credit goes to bebe for developing this for the HD2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=270777
I don't know. HSPL is superbly easy, and if your device is too broken to see what the SPL is, you don't have to worry about the repair center seeing what SPL is loaded. If it's still a usable albeit somewhat borked device, just find the stock SPL/ROM/radio and flash that mofo befo' shippin' it off. Hell, you're in USA and on AT$T, too. Phone insurance for thew win, dude. Went from kaiser to rhodium for $125, and free after customer service fu*ked with the wrong mofo.
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
BTT it seems that is a good bit of success of flashing without Hardspl, but it is on the HD2, if it can be done on the HD2 then is should possible on the Tilt2 / touch Pro or any other HTC phone..
I will offer up a donation to those make this a realty.
F2504x4 said:
Bumping causing solving this will making trying new roms a whole lot easier ....
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HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
This is an easy way to flash unsigned OS images to the HD2. It should not void your warranty like HSPLs do, because it does not change your SPL. I know for a fact, that repair centers are advised to check the SPL version number on the device.
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and it would be "free" except for all the Voluntary donations the chef would receive from this..
F2504x4 said:
If you had taken the time to read the link i provided, you would have seen this..
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I don't see how that makes things a "whole lot easier". It looks to be about as complex a procedure as installing HardSPL, except it has to be done every time you flash, whereas once you have HardSPL:
1) Flashing via USB requires fewer steps
2) Flashing from MicroSD is possible
3) You can flash radios
So tell me how it is a "whole lot easier" when the initial step is approximately the same complexity, and subsequent ROM flashes do not have the reduction in complexity that HardSPL provides?
The problem with the HardSPL is that it many people are having problems and they do not respond to support requests anymore, even with donations. That is why were looking to do it without HardSPL.
sounds like a coup is about to happen!
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
DaveShaw said:
I never see the point of anything but Hard SPL. I like that I never have to worry about bricking my device, no matter what I flash.
Flashing ROMs via SSPL is has always been reported as unstable. For that reason no-one has created SSPL's that allow ROM flashing in the past. Cotulla must have found something new, or everyone got lucky.
A more practical approach might be the USPL aka SplXploit (assuming that's not what Cotulla did). stepw has plenty of information regarding it on this forum, as does itsme on his personal site.
It's not going to be easy, and will require a lot more hacking ability and time than I have.
Dave
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What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
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What would be the stability of a ROM that was flashed after hardSPL was installed with softSPL?
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So long as the SPL you have (Hard or Stock) matches closely with the original one HTC intended for that ROM, you will be fine.
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
tonev said:
HardsSpl DOES NOT WORK FOR me AND NOBODY WANTS TO HELP ME
wish i could do it without HARDSPL but no
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Please see the HardSPL sticky thread, which is the correct place for this, and where I have tried to help you.
redpoint73 said:
HardSPL takes about 3 minutes, and you only have to do it once. So I don't see how being able to skip it would make it "a whole lot easier".
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No I CANT HARDSPL MY phone so it does not take 3 minutes it takes 3 days 5 hours ( and still counting )
Gunstar_Hero said:
I wonder if anyone has even though about doing a port of this for the Rhodium... It would be great because it wouldn't void warranty (as far as I can tell) and nobody and use HardSPL for crap anyone because the tick system isn't checked and donating doesn't work.
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So you are saying that even if I donate for hardspl it won't work?
90% chance that if you're having problems installing HardSPL, this approach is as likely to (if not more likely to) fail for you.
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
Entropy512 said:
The only issue I've seen with HardSPL is that on some phones (such as stock Tilt 2s), you can't install it without first installing enablerapinew.cab (or something like that, I forget the exact name). This is mentioned in the HOWTOs for HardSPL, and would likely affect this approach too.
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Must do automatic flash while synced with pc also.
I asked about this a while ago and got the same kinda responses

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