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I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
I own a Anycom BH-100 and it shows constant hissing as soon as connected to any device (PC USB dongle, HTC Magician / Hermes / Diamond).
Good thing is, when the music plays it's nearly gone ( = can't hear it anymore).
Hm, I suppose it bluetooth really is that bad. It hisses when I try to connect to my HP portable too.
My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
So you wanna tell us, that you don't experience any difference between your headset being switched totally off and being on but no actual music playing?
3030 user here.I'd described the hissing present but not so much bothering. Not that I have much BT HF experience before, used entry level Jabra BT135 with N6120c. There I'd say was little bit of less hissing.
tha_rami said:
My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
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Well lag/slight stuttering I would understand since it is wireless, but this is a constant background hiss independant of any lag.
Well f**k me sideways on a wheelbarrow!
The Diamond is not at fault at all. Its the Jabra that STINKS.
I tested a DS200 here at work at its got nothing of the hiss on the 3030. On the 3030, I clearly hear when its activated (*ELECTRONIC CLICK*hsssssssssss...) and likewise when it goes to sleep. On the Sony, I hear *nothing*. Its utterly silent. Well, aside from the music.
I'm getting this exchanged ASAP. And to think I was blaiming the Diamond
no problem with my diamond!. excellent quality both with my stereo headphones playing music or with car BT device. the connection is instantaneous and no background noises.
i must be lucky...lol. i have no lag with iGO8, my camera is taking good pictures and generally speaking i have nothing to complain about i am embarrassed...feeling left out
I thought I'd resurect my thread with an update... It appears that its NOT the Jabra at fault. I got it exchanged for a new one (the store didnt have a DS-200 at this time) and my conclusions stands at this:
- Listening closer to the Diamonds top speaker (like putting my ear to it, not good to do lol), it has the exact same type of noise. Its just that the volume of sound is so much greater its immiedietly drowned out. In other words, the Diamond behaves like this.
- Listening closer to the Diamonds package wire HF, it once again has the exact same type of noise, but here it is considerably lower and you really have to listen hard to it to hear: its not really noticable during playback even on lower volumes. So once again, this is how the Diamond sounds.
- The Jabra 3030 exaggerate the noise 10x, hence why its so annoying and with poor quality. Listening on low volume is drowned out by noise.
I got to see if I can try my buddies DS-200 again, listen closer this time... I'm starting to suspect that its a matter of how good the signal processing is on the Jabra, due to the Diamond sending out a noisy signal. If the DS-200 handle audio like the wired HF (same behaviour, much less noise), then its obviously "as good as it gets".
Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
poedgirl said:
Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
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I suppose that's possible... But did you listen real close? I cant hear the noise from the speaker unless I stick my ear to it and the wired noise is very subtle, unnoticable during playback. Maybe I just got sensitive ears
I have tried the DS-200 again and got a background noise level that's much closer to the wired level, though a little notch higher. And its far, far lower than the Jabra. In particular, the electronic sound on turn on/off is not that noticable while the Jabra make my ear twitch.
murklor said:
I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
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I have a Jabra BT3030 and it works just fine in fact its perfect... Are you using a stock rom by anychance... if so what version...? you may want to use a cooked rom with the latest O/S.. as this does solve alot of BT problems...!
I am using the latest official (1.93 I believe it is). I dont quite see how a cooked rom will change the bluetooth performance of the handsfree (as a sidenote, I have tested removing those two bluetooth variables in the registry that according to another site would vastly improve quality: it did absolutely nothing)... But granted, I may just try it tonight if I ever do figure out which one to use, lol.
I received my O2 Ignito (their version of the Diamond) yesterday and am generally impressed, even with the stock ROM. However, despite hearing that the speaker volume was a little low I wasn't prepared for how bad mine is. I have upgraded from a Moto V3i and the lowest setting on the Moto is louder and clearer that the highest setting on the Ignito. When I listen closely as I adjust the volume using the keys on the side the sound is distorted at all levels and the 80% level is louder than the 100%, which seems to clip.
Are they all this bad or do some lucky ones have well-performing speakers with decent volume and a clean sound?
Well, my speaker is working just perfect. Clear sound, and i usally use it at 40-60%. Otherwise its too loud for me. But thats subjective. I know there are some sound comparison videos on Youtube. Maybe u check them out to see if you have a bad speaker.
IMO, the Diamond's speaker system is its weakest point. It has about the worst audio quality that I have encountered with any phone. My Diamond comes with 1.93 ROM and I have used the Schaps Adv Config tweaks. Sound level is still low and quality remains awful. Maybe I am missing something?
My speaker is low too. It also distorts slightly. I wouldn't say it bothers me though...
my speaker is low too .. actually as low as the Se w880i ... sincerly i cant use the speaker, i miss that from my touch
Same for me - speaker to low. All patches I've applied have not changed anything on the internal-speaker volume.
4 out of 5 replies to say the speaker volume is too low. Not looking good. Are we all deaf or are those that are happy with their speaker not bothering to reply? There are plenty of people that are happy with their Diamond so is that despite the poor speaker volume in most cases?
It seems to me that in developing an all-singing, all-dancing handset HTC have forgotten that it is also a phone and you can't answer the phone if you can't hear it ring
I have to say my ringtone volume is quite loud and mp3 playback is also quite loud,the only problem i have with the sound is the lack of bass and a little bit of distortion on the highest volume setting.
Same here - I am happy with the speaker/ringtone volume - distortion on the highest level is a problem.
My complaint would be the loud speaker during a call. It's almost non-existent and not useable - at all.
I also find the loudspeaker a little quite, but after the mod I read here about putting a small bit of clear tape over the speaker and put the back cover back on, it made big improvement to the sound quality and for me was a little louder
Indigo speaker level
I have had my Indigo from o2 for just over a couple of weeks, overall ringtone volume is ok, & volume during a call also exceptable although not as loud as my previous XDA Orbit. When on hands free the volume level is low, when used hands free in car callers are hardly audible, i have tomtom 6 installed and the volume level from the speaker then is fantastic, i can even lower it from the highest level, this suggests to be that there must be a registry tweak that can be applied as the speaker can produce a good volume level with third party software. Does anyone know of an edit to increase the speaker volume level when in hands free mode?
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Well, _all_ phones will produce distortion at highest level, the companies don´t care. They want it that way... High volume, lowprice speakers.
The ringtone/message alert volumes are fine and quite loud but on the MP3 player its very low, which is a disappointment as I dont want to always have to use headphones to listen to songs.
I do find the speaker poor.
I often don't hear the SMS alert, and it's not easy to listen to a call in a noisy place. My previous XDA Orbit was much better.
Is there a "fix", or do we just live with it?
There is a fix somewhere on here.
The 'Search' button IS your friend!
dgr said:
I received my O2 Ignito (their version of the Diamond) yesterday and am generally impressed, even with the stock ROM. However, despite hearing that the speaker volume was a little low I wasn't prepared for how bad mine is. I have upgraded from a Moto V3i and the lowest setting on the Moto is louder and clearer that the highest setting on the Ignito. When I listen closely as I adjust the volume using the keys on the side the sound is distorted at all levels and the 80% level is louder than the 100%, which seems to clip.
Are they all this bad or do some lucky ones have well-performing speakers with decent volume and a clean sound?
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You should possibly check to see if your Audio Booster settings is switched on (you will find this in the Programs menu). Please note that your headset will be needed when trying to enable or disable the Equalizer. When disabled the sound is vastly improved.
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quality is just poor. volume is low but ok IMHO
Take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428170&highlight=audiopara3.zip
I have the U.S. version of Diamond and I find the earpiece speaker to be very good. I've had quite a few phones to compare to. External speaker is a different story though.
Just got one of these diamonds, unlocked it, put dutty's rom on it etc. Now i have been using an orbit for the past year or so and obviously got used to the speaker sound which was loud and quite punchy.
But i find the speaker on the diamond very bright and tinny sounding. It seems like it needs to go louder as well, i know there are some modified audiopara3 files to up the sound level.
I've been trying tomtom today and because the female voice is bright anyway it sounds very bright indeed now. Also was getting lockups while navigating home today, may have to flash the 08 radio rom later.
I did compare my diamond to another one at work and it sounded exactly the same, so i know it's not my diamond at fault as such.
Just wondered why i don't see anyone else comment about this ?
Ta.....
Ofcourse we all commented mate.
Check this bro, this may help you to make your speaker gets louder.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428170
I recommend you install the lighter boost cab.
yeh thanks i did just get that lighter boost one, so i have a bit more volume now, but tomtom is obviously still very tinny etc.
thanks anyway for the link.
Okay guys, hello to all!
I have the same problem as SergeyBE told here:2-3 month ago I got installed "IncreaseVol.cab", it's was better sound during the call, but twoo weeks ago it's beginning rattling and noising. Now I can hear just durring the call just if I push the button "Speaker", if I play mp3, it's sounds like it have to be.
So my speaker (which one when I listening to someone during the call) so it blowed up Yeah, there is noise and really bad bad sound But that speaker which is for when phone is ringing or listening to the music works fine after the boost! Now my phone is repairing but I want to increase a ring volume and volume when listening to the music (or watching video) without increasing volume parametres for the speaker which is working during the call!
So can anyone help me here? Does anybody here have original audiopara3 file with increased only Ring volume and Multimedia volume? or can somebody here make it for me? thanks a lot in advance
so nobody here can help me?!!
really maybe you know what parameters do I need to change for boosting only ring speaker?
I think i have the same problem. After playing with some roms, especially the udk syrius HD rom (beta 4 and 5) wich boost the volume - i now have troubles with the speaker during a phone call.
The strange thing is:
- they hear me fine; so the mic is not the problem.
- if i use a bluetooth carkit, the reception is fine. No noise in the call.
- if i play music or watch youtube, the speakers are fine.
- but if i make a call, i get noise to a terrible extend that i can hardly understand what the other site is talking about.
yeah the same and I had - so you need only to change the speaker
but I don't now what to do now - I don;t want to blow my speaker again, so I wanna just an audiopara3 file to boost ring volume and that is all
If you are talking about German O2 Xda Daimond (like mine), I had the same problem after month of usage - my speaker first started cracking and then sound disappered at all. I got it fixed under warranty, they replaced it. Looks like it is some sort of hardware flaw.
so after this case you have changed again your audiopara3 file and now the sound is boosted yeah? during the call and when the phone rings?
I called HTC and they said it needs repair. By now the speaker looks totally broken.
Nice thing is that UPS picked up the phone at my house.
what is UPS?
maxkit said:
what is UPS?
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easy... highly modded audiopara3.cvs can broke (partially) the small speaker membrane... it's not a issue of the modded file itself... but the membrane is very thin so a too high volume can make damages on long run
okay so how I know there is 2 speakers in Diamond - 1. External - for listening to the music, watching videos, when the phone rings
2. Internal, when you are listening to somebody during the call
so I want to know how to increase in audiopara3 parametres only for increasing external speaker, when the phone rings
is it possible?
this might sound funny, but i made my first ear-to-earpiece voice call yesterday on the Z3c, after having the phone for a couple of weeks. up to then, i've only used speakerphone for calls.
call quality is, frankly, BALLS. my gf sounded like a Transformer the other night. there's some awful digital treatment or filter or something. equalizer didn't seem to make much difference.
strange thing is: speakerphone sounds great, if a little softer than what i was accustomed to using. and the stereo speakers in general, for music, videos, etc. are great -- especially when you take into account the size of the phone and speakers.
so, i'm curious: what have you done in terms of settings to make non-speakerphone calls sound better?