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Paid CID unlock

Just out of curiosity:
If I buy unlock code from say IMEI Check and CID unlock my device, would I ever need to run Hard SPL or Soft SPL to upgrade/downgrade my Trinity? Then going forward, can I just run any custom/cooked/original ROMs without worrying (since my device is permanently unlocked)? Please don't ask me why I want to pay for this when there are so many free alternatives - I don't know the answer
Last but not least, which method of unlocking preserves the warranty? Can the device be locked back just in case I need to take it to service?
Thank you! (I know these qns have been answered many times in this forum, but I just want to reassure myself that I got it all correctly)

As far as I know, IMEI-Check will completely unlock the device, allowing ROM upgrading etc without the need for additional hard SPL or softSPL.
Unlocking in itself doesn't affect the warranty, so you could simply use IMEI check to unlock for use of another SIM card. Further than that, flashing a new, unofficial Radio or OS ROM will technically invalidate the warranty. Most of the free unlockers actually work by flashing the Radio ROM, so in that case IMEI Check is safer as it retains the original ROM.
Once unlocked, there is no way to relock a device, but as long as you have the Operators own ROM in place, the lock status won't be looked at.

dim4x4 said:
If I buy unlock code from say IMEI Check and CID unlock my device, would I ever need to run Hard SPL or Soft SPL to upgrade/downgrade my Trinity?
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Yes, you'll also need to use SSPL / HardSPL if you plan to flash cooked roms (unsigned) in NBH format using the RUU updater.
You'll not need to use SSPL / HardSPL if you plan to flash shipped official ROMs (signed) using the RUU updater or if you you extract the *.nb files from the NBH upgrade and flash from mtty using LNB command in imei-check's MFG bootloader (which doesn't check signatures). You won't be able to flash unsigned code with the standard RUU Updater or SD card using imei-check's bootloader.
dim4x4 said:
Then going forward, can I just run any custom/cooked/original ROMs without worrying (since my device is permanently unlocked)?
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Original roms yes, you can flash them without worrying, but you'll have to re-run imei-check's unlocker everytime you want to flash your device with an original rom not matching your CID as CID unlock is not permanent (it disappears when you flash the radio).
As for custom/cooked roms, no, you'll have to worry about a) using HardSPL/SSPL or extracting the *.nb from NBH and flash from mtty, as it's the only way to flash unsigned code with imei-check's bootloader.
dim4x4 said:
Last but not least, which method of unlocking preserves the warranty?
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- imei check, as long as you replace the bootloader with a standard one before returning your device
- free unlocker, as long as you don't check the "superCID" option when you run it and you flash a standard radio back into it after SIM unlocking.
dim4x4 said:
Can the device be locked back just in case I need to take it to service?
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Depending on why you have to take it to service, but basically yes if it's working.
NeilM said:
As far as I know, IMEI-Check will completely unlock the device, allowing ROM upgrading etc without the need for additional hard SPL or softSPL.
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It will SIM unlock, but the CID unlock will only stay as long as you don't replace the RADIO after unlocking. If you flash another radio, then you'll need to re-run imei-check's unlocker again to have it CID unlocked again. And remember that for flashing a cooked rom you don't just need a CID unlocked device, but also need to bypass signature checking.
NeilM said:
Most of the free unlockers actually work by flashing the Radio ROM, so in that case IMEI Check is safer as it retains the original ROM.
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But it replaces the SPL on the device by a 1.01MFG SPL, so the warranty is technically void. And it also modifies the radio, but keeps the existing version.
NeilM said:
Once unlocked, there is no way to relock a device
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That's not true
NeilM said:
but as long as you have the Operators own ROM in place, the lock status won't be looked at.
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That's true in most cases.

Thanks Pof

Thank you very much, pof! That's clear and exhaustive answer!

Please verify my Supercid installation.

I just installed the Supercid and I wanted to make sure I have it installed properly. where can I check it? the reason I am asking, because instruction stated I should see the unlockcode on your monitor and your Kaiser is being restarted automatically. I do not see the unlockcode and device did not restart, but it that give me this message.
=== Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker (c)2008 by jockyw2001
=== Donations happily accepted, paypal to [email protected]
[] Done, your device should now be superCID and Security Unlocked
[] Your device is unlocked and you can change anything anytime
[] Don't forget to flash your original radio
Press Enter to exit
Please advise. Thanks in advance
Anchim

anchim said:
I just installed the Supercid and I wanted to make sure I have it installed properly. where can I check it? the reason I am asking, because instruction stated I should see the unlockcode on your monitor and your Kaiser is being restarted automatically. I do not see the unlockcode and device did not restart, but it that give me this message.
=== Kaiser SuperCID and Security Unlocker (c)2008 by jockyw2001
=== Donations happily accepted, paypal to [email protected]
[] Done, your device should now be superCID and Security Unlocked
[] Your device is unlocked and you can change anything anytime
[] Don't forget to flash your original radio
Press Enter to exit
Please advise. Thanks in advance
Anchim
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All looks good, but...
To verify security unlock, you can check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2580429&postcount=198
To test sim unlock use this command with ATCommander:
Code:
Enter into ATCommander:
[B][email protected]?40[/B] ---> check phone sim lock
Results
[B]@SIMLOCK= 00[/B] ---> means phone is unlocked
[B]@SIMLOCK= 01[/B] ---> means phone is locked
I can't remeber where to test CID unlock. If the above 2 are true, your probably OK.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
I can't remeber where to test CID unlock. If the above 2 are true, your probably OK.
Ta
Dave
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Depending on what Unlocker you use. Boot into Bootloader, (Press the Camera Key all the way in and Press your Stylus into the Reset Hole.)
Then Check at the top that it says "Security Unlocked"

JimmyMcGee said:
Depending on what Unlocker you use. Boot into Bootloader, (Press the Camera Key all the way in and Press your Stylus into the Reset Hole.)
Then Check at the top that it says "Security Unlocked"
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I know that !
In the link I posted there's a AT command to test for "security unlock".
I can't however remeber how to check if the CID lock is on or not, I suppose it depends on the SPL, Hard SPL's wont have a CID check, OEM ones will.
Ta
Dave

OP- Search and ye shall find the answer to almost any question you can come up with. They have all been asked already.

Thanks everyone for your respond. The only thing that worry me is, I didn't see the unlockcode and the device didn't restart on it own like the instruction said. This is the tool I used, Kaiser-SuperCID-tool. This info from the bootloader screen.
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.oliPof
CPLD-8
Thanks

anchim said:
Thanks everyone for your respond. The only thing that worry me is, I didn't see the unlockcode and the device didn't restart on it own like the instruction said. This is the tool I used, Kaiser-SuperCID-tool. This info from the bootloader screen.
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.oliPof
CPLD-8
Thanks
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Yeah, you'll be fine, go forth and flash a ROM.
Disclaimer, I am not always right.
Poirot said:
Despard: I suppose even you have failed?
Poirot: The last time was twenty-eight years ago
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Dave

Be aware of your SPL version. It will probably need to be updated. Search for JockeySPL for the expert advice. I think all 6.1 ROMs need to be version 3.xx SPL. Anyway, search it out to avoid issues. Sounds like you are on your way to ROM goodness.

kimtyson said:
Be aware of your SPL version. It will probably need to be updated. Search for JockeySPL for the expert advice. I think all 6.1 ROMs need to be version 3.xx SPL. Anyway, search it out to avoid issues. Sounds like you are on your way to ROM goodness.
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kimtyson means the Hard SPL's from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922.
Searching for JockeySPL return's nothing much use
Dave

Thanks for the assist Dave. You are the man!

DaveShaw said:
Yeah, you'll be fine, go forth and flash a ROM.
Disclaimer, I am not always right.
Dave
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Thanks again for your reply. I have been using [Apr 29] Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700 since I installed SPL-1.0.oliPof. everything seem fine. should I need to upgrade it and which version to install?
Thanks
Anchim

anchim said:
Thanks again for your reply. I have been using [Apr 29] Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700 since I installed SPL-1.0.oliPof. everything seem fine. should I need to upgrade it and which version to install?
Thanks
Anchim
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Flash and SPL from here if you are using WM6.1.
The ROM chef normally suggests the exact version. Anything 3.* will be OK.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
All looks good, but...
To verify security unlock, you can check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2580429&postcount=198
To test sim unlock use this command with ATCommander:
Code:
Enter into ATCommander:
[B][email protected]?40[/B] ---> check phone sim lock
Results
[B]@SIMLOCK= 00[/B] ---> means phone is unlocked
[B]@SIMLOCK= 01[/B] ---> means phone is locked
I can't remeber where to test CID unlock. If the above 2 are true, your probably OK.
Ta
Dave
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Thank you, Dave. Again.

Determine your Hard-SPL Version

How can i know if my Hard-SPL is unlocked without upgrade anything ?
(i use a prototype phone)
Thanks in advance for your response.

Dancorp said:
How can i know if my Hard-SPL is unlocked without upgrade anything ?
(i use a prototype phone)
Thanks in advance for your response.
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You won't have Hard SPL.
Carriers don't ever make Hard SPL's, xda-developers do.
Some prototypes are SIM unlocked or Security unlocked, but they will still have an SPL that requires a signed and matching CID image before it will flash it.
Thanks
Dave

Thanks for your response
And...Yes, my phone is SIM unlocked or Security unlocked

re flash the stock rom

how to re flash the stock rom and how to get my device locked again

hoss_n2 said:
how to re flash the stock rom and how to get my device locked again
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You can follow this thread. See the steps at the end of the post.
I'm not sure what you mean by locked again though. As long as you install the stock rom, radio and spl the phone is back in it's original condition unless you did a security unlock of the phone of course, in which case I believe that is irreversible. If you just used uspl or hspl to flash, there is no need to "lock" the device again.

ClydeB1 said:
You can follow this thread. See the steps at the end of the post.
I'm not sure what you mean by locked again though. As long as you install the stock rom, radio and spl the phone is back in it's original condition unless you did a security unlock of the phone of course, in which case I believe that is irreversible. If you just used uspl or hspl to flash, there is no need to "lock" the device again.
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Actually you can reverse security unlock. cmonex has a re-security locker on her site, link here.
CID unlocking can also be undone (see the Hard SPL thread).
SIM unlocking, won't affect the warranty

Fallen Spartan said:
Actually you can reverse security unlock. cmonex has a re-security locker on her site, link here.
CID unlocking can also be undone (see the Hard SPL thread).
SIM unlocking, won't affect the warranty
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Thanks m8, never too old to learn something new, and that on your 5,000th post.

How can I find out if my phone is flashed Hard-SPL?

Hey guys, I can't remember wheather my phone is flashed Hard-SPL, or not.
I've switched sent back my phone (For insurance) quite a few times, and installed the t-mobile updates, ect..
Now I can't remember if my phone is flashed hardSPL, because I want to flash my phone.

b4 this gets locked or killed:
just go into bootloader, if you see the word 'Olinex' anywhere in the first 3-4 lines, you've unlocked it via HardSPL before...

Ok thanks. I guess it is unlocked..
Question; When I send my phone back for insurance. Do they go into bootloader mode to check if it's unlocked? If so, is there any way get it back to what it was originally?

Rickmasta said:
Ok thanks. I guess it is unlocked..
Question; When I send my phone back for insurance. Do they go into bootloader mode to check if it's unlocked? If so, is there any way get it back to what it was originally?
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yes, they will probably check, i'd say odds of 99/1..there are threads that explain what stock versions of the radio and rom you need for your given phone and the HardSPL thread should explain how to go back..

the stock SPL is in the attachments, flash with the SPL provided

Rickmasta said:
Ok thanks. I guess it is unlocked..
Question; If so, is there any way get it back to what it was originally?
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absolutely. your biggest help is this forum and it's search facility. it can do wonders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560519

Rickmasta said:
Question; When I send my phone back for insurance. Do they go into bootloader mode to check if it's unlocked? If so, is there any way get it back to what it was originally?
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They don't even need to do that, when you turn on your phone it comes up with four lines of red text at the bottom of the screen. That's a dead giveaway it's been HardSPL'd, the stock SPL doesn't do that. I doubt they dig any deeper than that, so I'm pretty sure any stock SPL will do.

steviewevie said:
They don't even need to do that, when you turn on your phone it comes up with four lines of red text at the bottom of the screen. That's a dead giveaway it's been HardSPL'd, the stock SPL doesn't do that. I doubt they dig any deeper than that, so I'm pretty sure any stock SPL will do.
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Stock SPL does that too. It gives the ROM version, Radio version, and some other info (can't quite remember) in red text at the bottom of the screen every time you soft-reset.

As stated search my friend!
Also post these questions in the already open HARDspl thread instead of opening a new one.
Peace,
Joshua