First off, here is where we are putting al of the files for this project:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Harrier/WM5 Project/
For those who don't know, the HTC Apache is the first CDMA WM5 phone. Being that the only Blue Angel form factor available ROM is GSM based not CDMA Harrier based, in order for us to make WM5 work on a CDMA Harrier we are going to be taking the files we need from thr Apache.
Now, on the server right now is a complete file dump from an Apache which should contain all of the needed files. It's a file called "Apache 1.03.00 WWE File Dump.rar" and located here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Apache/
We are working with Apache owners right now to also get the EVDO Radio from the Apache also uploaded. We already have an EVDO-Radio PRL and it is uploaded under the file name "PRL 10026 Modded 4 EVDO Radios.rar". We are going to try and use the EVDO Radio from the Apache and if we can this PRL should work until we get the 20215 PRL from the Apache. If we can't use the Apache's radio, this PRL will work with the non-Apache EVDO Radio. It's uploaded in a file called "Harrier EVDO Radio HA01_151.rar". This 10026 PRL is simply modded to be EVDO Radio compatible, it will NOT give you EVDO. We are also going to get the Apache's ExtROM uploaded so we have all of the SPCS carrier specific apps and features that we need.
Ok, the only I think we are going to be able to do this, is to have a knowledgable BA owner like Buzz, mamaich, ramram, and others, help us Harrier owners like me. We need a BA owner to help us get the current BA WM5 ROM to boot on a Harrier. Right now we get a "NO GSM" error and it won't boot. Hopefully one of these knowledgable GSM guys will help us figure out which files in the BA ROM are causing this and take the needed files to fix this from the Apache file dump and copy them on a GSM BA and then get that on an SD card and uploaded so we can atleast get it to boot. Then I think us Harrier guys can figure out most everything else and patch it using the Apache's files so we don't have to bother the BA guys anymore.
So, are there any BA guru's willing to help on this project?
Also on the server are the following needed files which are Harrier specific:
2003SE ExtROM Resizer.rar
2003SE ExtROM Unhide & Unlock.rar
Harrier EVDO Radio HA01_151.rar
mamaich's 5.03.02 WWE (Patched v2).rar (BA ONLY right now!)
mamaich's Fix's.rar
Missing Files from Apache 1.03.00 WWE.rar
Missing Files from HIM WM5.rar
PRL 10026 Modded 4 EVDO Radios.rar
ROM Dump Apps.rar
WM5 File Dumper.rar
WM5 ROM Installer.rar
I've also posted this topic here:
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&Itemid=59&func=view&catid=17&id=4664
WOOT
Im here to help...
what can I do?
Bump.
Any news yet?
Ill jump in and see what I can do to help
any news?
BUMP!!
I have an extra device I can beat up on
if there is anything I can do...I have an extra vx 6600 (don't ask) that I can beat up on, Load, Reload as many times as needed. I can't make phone calls or test the quality of phone call, but I can test signal strength.
if I can help...Let me know,
Matt
Ditto on the "extra" XV6600 tip... If people need stuff tested over and over, I can do that. Have flashed my old T-Mobile Wallaby dozens of times using SD Card method, happy to do the same to my "other" XV6600.
Still nothing?
Alright...
Is there a thread where we can petition HTC to make a WM5 device with stuff we want so we can quit waiting on this to come out?
cludwig said:
Ditto on the "extra" XV6600 tip...
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word up...
straight out of compton
LOLOLOL
WTH! lets do something with this project! cdma phones are just as deserving as gsm phones.
Anyone able to get hands on cdma wm5 roms?
I see there are some apache files... will these work with the harrier?
Anyone have a spare ppc to test them out on?
I would but I only have 1 ppc and I cant afford to wreck it!
The only way to do it is if we can unlock the BA's ROM which no one seems to be able here to do. We can only unock the ExtROM...
havnt the gsm guys had to do this for their phones? if so ... why can't they help us do that to ours? not enough time for us? hmmmm
it would appear that way...
copenhagen said:
havnt the gsm guys had to do this for their phones? if so ... why can't they help us do that to ours? not enough time for us? hmmmm
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I hope not, because i'm awaiting WM5 too!!
Others? Speak uo, please.
Ill be following this thread to upgrade my phone to WM5, im new I just need to make sure, should I even attempt this upgrade on my Sprint PPC 6601?
VZ Harrier want WM5
How are we comming on this. I really would liuke to try it. Don't care if I wreck my phone :twisted:
da project -
Hi, yeah got a imate PDA2k EDVO CDMA live in Australia hanging to get this mobile 5 going for some reason. (heard its crap) but yeah. Keep the dream alive team.
Bounty over at PDAPhoneHome
There is currently a bounty being offered at PDAPhoneHome for a working CDMA WM5 Rom. With mamaich's and gmap's recently released apps this shouldn't be to hard. The link is http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60026&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
I'll offer my CDMA device up for testing if one of you BA guys wanna try.
by the looks of that "bounty being offered" thread... things are getting VERY CLOSE! if anyone can offer any assistance in completing the final steps please come forward... we need YOU!!
I have a feeling someone will be recieving that bounty REAL soon.
Good luck to the individuals who are making the dream transition from wm2003se to wm5 on our harriers a realisation.
Thanks in advance
-cope
Yeah... keeping the dream alive till it becomes a real nightmare
They're making progress, and it actually looks like there's some hope.
In the meantime I'm gonna go get a newer rom and try that... things been acting up on me lately.
WM5 fix? HA! Not for 4-6 months after we get it... How many bugs were in the GSM version? :shock:
But there is hope. And I'm all for a good nightmare.
I'll be one of the first to try the upgrade and make my phone useless.
I was there the night the GSM one got posted and may have been the first CDMA person to see the "No GSM" screen.
Someone make me take a programing class so I can be more useful :roll:
Currently on ftp there is a WM5 Harrier romdump but only 2MB. Is there a WM5 OS ROM extractor/romdumper that works?
Hi,
Will the PH20A2 CDMA Verizon (audiovox vx6600) have an upgrade to the latest win 5.0 version? There is some chatter on the rest of the internet but the version posted here specifically excludes the US CDMA Version.
Any help or insight is greatly appreciated.....
Thanks....
:roll:
I read on another forum that people were trying to cook a PPC-6700 ROM for the CDMA BAs. They couldn't use the GSM ROMs because it kept trying to find a GSM radio.
:?
I think we should get multiple users to voice needs and interest to Audiovox as well as Verizon. i will be happy to draft and post the letter but we'll need some consensous among the partners. I just hate to see Audiovox or Verizon push a new device down our throat because they are too lazy or incompetent for the simple OS upgrade.
can we upgrade or not
You should follow this thread.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60026
:x
you've got to be kidding me... do you understand the english language ? i read your other post and i dont think you could even perform the upgrade if someone was kind enough to provide it here....
ANYONE CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE A DIAMOND WORKING ON THE 850 3G BAND FOR ATT?
I have been told that the "DIAM130" diamond will work for the 850 3g att band but I am yet to have anyone confirm this! I really wanna get a diamond but 3g is a must for me, so please let us know ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
Please spend more time searching and less time double posting.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414492
Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
These are the answers I give to anyone who wants to post the same question over and over all across the forum. Good luck Lewi!
GEEZ
Thanks you all so much for your kindness, yes I have double posted about this and I continue to get a mixed review. If you would spend more time helping then being a jack [email protected]# then maybe you would not only help me but others as well. For the record here are the replys to my threads:
poedgirl posted: I've got 850MHz on 3G here with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM which came on my device (works on Telstra NextG here in Australia which is 850MHz HSDPA).
MrCalico posted: just got my Diamond Touch today and it came with the
RADIO: 1.00.25.05
ROM: 1.93.456.2 WWE Dated (7/10/08)
O/S: CE 5.2.19965 (Build 19965.1.2.3)
I'm only getting (E)dge on AT&T
No (G) or (H)
My upgraded TILT/TYN II connects to G3 and H at my location here in Los Angeles.
I hope someone figures out a way to get at least a G3 and 850Mhz radio.
Does it just need to be unlocked ??
I have read the many many threads that have been posted about this topic and like most everyone else I am still on the fence as to if there is indeed a DIAMOND that works for the us 3g 850 band! In the same threads that you guys have blasted for me not reading I have seen that supposly there is a "DIAM130" that gets the 850mhz hsdpa 3g band. I am just trying to get someone to confirm it. I am sorry if I have offended anyone, I am just trying to clarify something not just for me but for everyone else!
I think this statement is not only stupid but rude, as I am just merly trying to clarify something:
Black93300ZX said:
Is this guy serious? Can we just like, vote to ban him now? 2 posts in the Diamond section asking the exact same question, so here's the answer you get.
Yes, I HAVE MY DIAMOND RUNNING ON 3G ON BOTH AT&T FREQUENCIES, 850 AND 1900. It runs perfect with no issues whatsoever. So Lewi, all you have to do is buy any tri-band or quad-band Diamond and not modify it one bit, it'll work flawlessly in the United States. Go get it buddy, it's yours for the taking!
(note: for any user besides lewi, this will not work. don't waste your money.)
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Black93300ZX I AM NOT GOING TO STOOP TO YOUR LEVEL AND DOWN YOU IN ANYWAY, I AM GOING TO PRAY AND ASK GOD TO BLESS YOU!
Remember these threads are here to help others and maybe this will answer the same ? for someone else and save them the HARD ACHE AND BLASTS that they may recieve!
I would like to say thank you to everyone in these forums that continue to help and make this a great place to gather info.
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Also, your subject is misleading with the ! instead of ?
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Lewi, I would reiterate what jomo says here and ask that you please update the title of your thread to include a question mark instead of an exclamation point. I for one know that I opened the thread very excited thinking that I was getting new info on a subject that's been discussed so much for the past few weeks.
Thanks.
You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
jomo25 said:
You think we are only trying to be obnoxious in our replies. You misunderstand. This thread only serves to FURTHER THE CONFUSION. If everyone would just keep the conversation in the limited number of threads, then there won't be so much mis- or incomplete information.
I posted the links to the other relevant and fully vetted threads. Answering the same questions here will not serve any purpose and increases the chances of conflicting information.
Whether you believe it or not, my direct and abrupt post was meant to improve your chances of getting the right answer.
And yes, for the love of all that is good, you shouldhave at least changed the thread title. Or let's just let this one die and keep the conversation in the other, original threads.
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Never mentioned you being obnoxious jomo25, I actually thank you for posting the already posted threads for those who havent read them just wish I would have done it first =o)... I am sorry if i mislead anyone on the title description and I just changed it, apparently alot of people still are like me and really cant wait to have some one verify WE DO HAVE A 850 3g diamond that will work for the US! (Noticed the 168 views already for this tread)
lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
lewi - thanks for asking about this. I have a Diamond with the .05 radio and it is working on EDGE with AT&T for sure. I'd love it to work on 3G! It's not at all clear to me a) whether it would switch to 3G automatically if it could, or b) if it would need some configuration. Moreover, it's not clear to me how one can tell which frequency the radio is currently operating on.
landshark said:
lewi1032 -
Your example of the two posts with contradictory information is a perfect example of why your creation of a new post to discuss an issue already covered in other posts is a problem.
If just ONE post exists and people reply rather than create a new post, contradictions such as you experienced will be apparent and can be rectified. If there are multiple posts, there is a good chance people following only one of the post threads will only see half of the discussion and contradictory information will not be apparent and so not rectified.
This is a problem in this forum since many people are posting in a hurry without searching first to see if their question has already been asked. Continuation of this pattern will diminish the usefulness of this forum, to everyone's detriment. This is a BIG concern for long time posters who are trying to help people like yourself get answers, so as episodes of this behavior increase, their tempers flare.
It is considerate to understand the informal and formal rules of any group of people and abide by them, including a newsgroup, especially if you are asking for something. Not doing so sends the message that you don't care about something they value - don't be surprised if they respond negatively.
You can also try doing resarch outside this forum - for example, if you're interested in finding out about the existance of a US 3G Diamond, you might want to try searching using Google. You might be surprised what you find.
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Thank you for your great post, I have been on google and have done a ton of research outside of these forums, and like i have posted in one of the forums I have not seen anyone saying they have a diamond working here in the us on 3G! It is so hard to go by what "websites" say on the specs because so much of there information is just cut and pasted and usually wrong. For instance COMP USA had on there site where they were selling the diamond that worked for US 3G and they got so many orders and calls on it that they finally relized that they were wrong and it didnt actually work, so they changed it.
here is the link about that http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/...-surfaces-at-compusa-with-quad-band-connecti/
here is a link saying that there isnt any diamond that is compatible with the hspa 850 band at this time:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/07/25/diamond.gets.gsm.850.edge/
THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THEY ARE ONLY GETTING GSM (EDGE)
but here is also another link saying that the fcc has approved the us 3g band diamond:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/2...ts-fcc-approval-with-us-3g-hsdpa-support.html
BUT THIS WOULD EXPLAIN THE PEOPLE SAYING THAT THERE IS A 3G BAND DIAMOND "DIAM130"
AS YOU CAN SEE I HAVE DONE ALOT OF SEARCHING AND STILL IT IS HARD TO GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER.
Thanks for all the input from everyone and maybe one day we will get someone to actually post "I HAVE A DIAMOND IN THE US AND ITS WORKING JUST GREAT ON 3G" =o)
Until then I guess I will just have to live without the beautiful VGA screen and make do with my tilt.
Okay, Lewi, you want a PERFECTLY CLEAR CUT AND HONEST ANSWER...
Here we go, it's been said a million times...
THE NEWEST ROM FOR THE DIAMOND...
ENABLES 850MHZ GSM ONLY...
THEREFORE...
YOUR DIAMOND NOW HAS...
850/900/1800/1900 GSM....
900/2100 UMTS...
WHICH WILL NOT WORK ON AT&T'S 3G BANDS OF 850 OR 1900.
Case closed, no matter how many times you ask in this section, the ROM development section, or any other for that matter, this is what is known.
Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
lewi1032 said:
Thank you for your POSITIVE reply =o) So does anyone have any news on this http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29...a-support.html or when it might be available?
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Black93300ZX said:
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
RavenGirl said:
http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well THAT'S a disappointment. Just confirmed that no Diamond, unless made for the US, will work with US 3G bands ever. Good luck to those people who bought European versions to have them early.
Howeverrr, if I do recall, I think the Touch Pro has all radios in it... Didn't someone post on here about the project leader for the Diamond saying how they had to remove the US radio to make it so slim? Hmm...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2471618&postcount=54
It seems he's right.
And things just get curiouser and curiouser... Why doesn't the Touch Pro FCC test mention WCDMA? Is it because the ROM is locking it like 850 GSM in the original Diamond, or was it left out of that too?
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http://www.intomobile.com/2008/07/29
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Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
I just don't understand at all how this phone works on Telstra NextG (850MHz HSPA) with the 1.00.25.05 radio ROM and yet it doesn't work on the US carriers, doesn't make sense to me.
US TD
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=23369
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Well that might be good for some US folks. But doesn't cut it for me. I need tri-band 3G. I travel to Asia way too much to go without 2100 3G. Heck this new phone won't even work in Korea or Japan. Sad how they are taking a step back in functionality here. My current TC works almost everywhere in full 3G glory. No TD will be able to do that. Truly disappointing if true. Between this and the Omnia drama, I might be done with WM.
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The Touch Pro should work everywhere with 3G... If it still has the radio like we suspect it does.
Hi everyone!
Just got mine Rhodium from Telus
Cant wait to get my phone cleared of that "telus" stuff
Read few pages and use search but cant find much info about Hard-SPL for CDMA release date or progress status....
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=79102 - not much info
does anyone know more ?
thanks and sorry if this topic already exist (i didnt found)
70 views no 1 respond, nice!?
hun-dred views
ya, spread fast
so when?
the Hard Spl for CDMA does not exsist yet, though Olinex are working on it! Give it time, it will happen! Sorry I cant be more help!
It's not out yet, and a seperate TP2 CDMA forum will appear on xda-devs to avoid confusion with GSM models .
Dave
????
what does everybody own a gsm version?
all the cdma owners hang out over at ppcgeeks.com lol
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=67
one could conclude that 80% of all wm issues people have are in no way related to what phone network they use and as such then can find help and programs in other forums then the one made for the phone they own
Supply and demand I guess... GSM coverage far outweighs that of CDMA.
Like Rudegar said, a lot of us simply hang out in the regular Diamond forums because not much is really carrier/network specific.
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all the cdma owners hang out over at ppcgeeks.com lol
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=67
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Thanks alot! You weren't kidding. The amount of info on PPCGeeks.com forums regarding the CDMA Touch Diamond is phenomenal! They have this one sticky on How unlock/flash/upgrade radio, its great