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Hi,
I just bought my Kaiser 4 days ago.
I am using the bluetooth adn an SDHC card.
My problem is, following: the batter goes every day empty! I unplugged from the charger 4hours (I was using the phone for one our), and the batter is on 34%.
Do you have the same problem or my batter is wrong?
tnx:
Adrián
Wow, really fast battery drain.
No, I dont have that fast drain.
Do you use data connection all the time? Wi-fi? 3G?
Backlight? Power off when device is not used ...
Worth to check.
I switched off the online data connection and the 3G..
I jut pulled off the SDHC card for testing the battery...
I hope it will help..
How often do you charge the battery, and how long do you use the phone per day?
It depends ... between 1 or 2 days ... and I usually charge when it is at 30% - 50%, during evening.
And I use 3G for browsing the internet for now and then randomly also MSN/Yahoo chat.
I suggest to hard-reset, and run your phone without any app installed.
Then see the battery drain.
big source of battery drain for me was the WiFi and the push email.
I have also noticed the battery drains pretty damn fast. Much faster than my wizard it would seem. I am slowly disabling things to see if I can find the source. Otherwise I am calling HTC and getting a new battery.
Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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Nope - no bluetooth - no push email. Its very wierd.
sorry i was referring to the OP
I am using the Spb GPRS Monitor.... Does it need extra battery power?
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Are you leaving Bluetooth on? That will drain the battery pretty quick
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I think that is not correct. Bluetooth hardly has any influence on the battery drain.
You can leave it on for ever.
But do a test yourselve.
1. Load the battery 100 %
2. Set bluetooth on or of and put your baby to sleep for 8 hours.
3. Check the battery situation in the morning, the first time you start using it. You should, in 8 hours, not have lost more that 4 till 5%.
That is with GPRS and no 3G or HSDPA. I did not test that, but...
You will see that a night with, or without, makes hardly any diiference.
But maybe I am wrong.
My personal experience is that using GPRS ( Phone=GSM only) is the most efficient. Especially if you have Messenger on the whole time.
Huib
Hi
When Bluetooth is on the device will not go into standby even if the screen appears dark as Bluetooth needs the OS to be alive to work, so if you have programs loaded that are using CPU cycles the battery will drain quickly as these programs will run continually.
Regards
Phil
The only thing that I am saying is that my phone, in 8 hours, with bluetooth on, uses max 4% of battery drain. With blutooth off I see no difference.
The phone is in sleeping mode, so people can call me. What else can I say?
So I cannot say that Bluetooth drains my battery faster. At least not visible to me.
I tested did a long time ago with several systems. the last one, before my Tytn II came was on blootooth its whole life. And now again I see the same at my little kaiser.
Huib
P.s. and then this.
I see as standbye the situation, that I only can switch it back on with sliding the keyboard or the power switch. If other keys do not react, is in't this standbye? The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
herpi said:
The rest of the discussion I prefer to leave to better specialists on this forum
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How rude!
Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Lol... i think he meant others than himself not the other poster.
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Absolutely.
Huib
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
There is no I/R in Kaiser, and BT standby seems to draw very little. I leave mine all the time, I loose about 5% battery overnight. WiFi is a completely different story, it's a power PIG.
austinsnyc said:
For Best battery life you should make a false Push email and set it to check manualy there is info on google about how to do this. thats only if you dont use exchange. Also NO bluetooth yes it does suck lots of juice! Also make sure you dissable the IR connections that also sucks juice. there are also power saving reg tweaks in the registy that you can find in the Wiki
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I still disagree.
When bluetooth is just ON and not connected to any device it hardly consums power. (IMHO)
Do a simple test and let it on for a night sleep with and without bluetooth.
When connected to a headset or whatever it of course consumes.
Pls tell me the difference.,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305518&highlight=battery
Huib
I have had my TyTN II since Tuesday the 25th - so only 2 days now. I pulled the phone out of the charger at 6:50am this morning. I have WiFi turned OFF (only use at night when I am surfing while watching TV). I have BlueTooth off. I do have BB Connect installed and running with 1 BES account and 3 BIS accounts. I was on the phone for maybe 5 total minutes so far this morning - and I surfed for like 10 minutes via EDGE on the way to work. I do have SPB Mobile Shell 1.5 installed, but from what I read it doesn't effect battery life. I have the unit set to shut the screen off after 2 minutes....and my LCD brightness is at like 70% or so.
With all this - as of 10:35am this morning - I am already down to 75% battery. At this rate, the phone will be dead before 5pm....! Not even a full day.
Man - I hope this gets better because I can't run my life with phone plugged in half the day just so it will last me!
Hi Guys
i've heard that you can turn off the gps which would imply its permantley on, is this true? If so, any one know how to turn it off as I can't find what is probably an obvious menu/option.
I need to turn it off as i am only getting six hours of idle on any charge of my phone - have an extended batt on order and it is using push email (constantly connected) which is a must for me.
No real complaints apart from battery (which was expected and being sorted) and seems pretty good so far.
Oh, anyone else ditch touchflo? Thought it was rubbish myself
If GPS was able to be turned off, how much battery might it save? The difference could be transforming!
I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.
mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?
GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.
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I personally don't think that GPS would be permanently turned on.
Maybe the interface, which "looks" if a demand on GPS data exists...
IF the GPS would be permanently turned on, the battery drain would
be very high, and the device would get assumingly very hot.
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Good point
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GPS is only 'on' when it is called for by any external program. If it were on all the time the phone would be flat in about two hours regardless what you did with it.
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do you KNOW that or are you assuming that?
I know I have seen programs that turn it off just as usual, the search on here has let me down. If this was definetly the case, then why would programs like these be written?
Monty Burns said:
mine eats battery more than a fat bird eats bugers and mcdonalds and yes, its very hot as well .. although, this could be coz its pretty much always plugged in.... ?
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Yes, it is a known fact that the Diamond heats up when you are charging it (to levels some may find concerning) but HTC have dismissed this as 'normal operation'.
If it was on all the time you would have an instant fix on where you are straight away .
If it was on all the time your battery would last as said around two hours
I think it is in standby mode if this is what you mean but does need software activation to enable it on as in transmit and receive .
Not sure if turning off standby mode would be a good idea but if you google for the chipset name and have a read up it will let you know these kind of things
Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!
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Are you sure you guys are not getting confused with GPRS, not GPS?
That can drain battery life, and by disabling GPRS Auto Attach using Advance Config tool, can extend your battery by around 40%!
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if I do this, then im guessing my push email wont work? .... and maybe i am?
I know this was an issue an issue in the past for older phones. With the recent high tech phone/smartphones/battery, I am just wondering if this is still an issue today.
The reason I am asking, I experimented and let my HD7 stand still without using it with the wi-fi on then and wi-fi off for almost a day for both and appears that I have the same battery remaining. I wish I could see the percentage use but looking at the icon itself appears the same to me.
Any other thoughts?
So, a pretty nifty thing about this phone/OS, is when the screen turns off, it automatically kills the WiFi. When you turn it back on, it connects again.
This is how they're able to conserve battery life. The only downside, is if you were downloading say a big game, via WiFi, and the screen times out, WiFi dies and so does your download unfortunately. I was able to get the download to resume once, but usually not.
gasanpride said:
I know this was an issue an issue in the past for older phones. With the recent high tech phone/smartphones/battery, I am just wondering if this is still an issue today.
The reason I am asking, I experimented and let my HD7 stand still without using it with the wi-fi on then and wi-fi off for almost a day for both and appears that I have the same battery remaining. I wish I could see the percentage use but looking at the icon itself appears the same to me.
Any other thoughts?
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i think wifi doesnt consume any battery at all when its "just connected", only when a upload or download is going on , you might find the difference...
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i think wifi doesnt consume any battery at all when its "just connected", only when a upload or download is going on , you might find the difference...
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No, you are wrong. Even stay disconnect, the Wifi Module will keep searching for the new wifi spot and it kills the battery a lot. Than why i usually switch my Wifi Off (both my HD7 and my old HD2) when i am not going to use it
For the first time with a smartphone I've been leaving the Wifi on all the time, since it doesnt seem to really impact the battery that much. I'd only turn it off if I know I'm going to be a day or two out of Wifi coverage, just to save me having to grab a charger.
With my TD2, having Wifi on all the time not only shagged the battery but also slowed down the UI and made the phone hot as hell.
With Android I would have to keep my Wifi off because it would kill my battery but on my HD7 I leave my Wifi AND bluetooth on all day and I still get pretty good battery life. I only charge once at the end of the day.
the wireless radios, bluetooth & wifi, are so much more polished and refined as compared to the those in WM5/6. With WM, used to flash new radios posted on xda to acheive better reception/power consumption performance. WP7 does it right out of the box...
btw, you can set 'notify when new networks found' to off. If not needed by you, probably save some juice.
cheers
HD7 hw0002
aquanaut88 said:
the wireless radios, bluetooth & wifi, are so much more polished and refined as compared to the those in WM5/6. With WM, used to flash new radios posted on xda to acheive better reception/power consumption performance. WP7 does it right out of the box...
btw, you can set 'notify when new networks found' to off. If not needed by you, probably save some juice.
cheers
HD7 hw0002
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I believe the only thing that changes is that it doesn't tell you when it finds new networks, but it's still always on and searching. So it shouldn't make much of a battery difference on or off.
That being said, this is the first phone where I have left Wi-Fi on at all times and I get awesome battery life. Actually, my battery period has just been great. No complaints about how long the phone lasts. Much more than any Android or Windows Mobile phones I've used in the past.
If I leave Bluetooth on 24/7, but don't have any devices connected, how much is the battery drain?
Also, how much drain is leaving FoxFi Bluetooth tethering enabled, but don't have any devices connected?
I'm wondering if it's worth turning Bluetooth on/off as needed versus leaving it on 24/7 (including FoxFi Bluetooth tethering)...
With BT 4.0 I'd say it is not worth switching it on and off, so assuming that BT on HTC is as good if not better as on Iphone (have BT on it 24/7) keeping it on 24/7 will not affect standby time to much
I personally keep wifi active 24/7 on HTC (which I think is more power hungry than BT) and still get close to 2 days from the battery
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With BT 4.0 I'd say it is not worth switching it on and off, so assuming that BT on HTC is as good if not better as on Iphone (have BT on it 24/7) keeping it on 24/7 will not affect standby time to much
I personally keep wifi active 24/7 on HTC (which I think is more power hungry than BT) and still get close to 2 days from the battery
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Wifi isn't power hungry actually, as it uses Wifi for data instead of 3G/4G which requires more power based on signal ect.
Also Wifi has alot of power saving protocols especially when in standby, more so then normal data.
Yeah, WiFi connected in a battery saver. WiFi disconnected but on doesn't drain much. BT drains a ton, but I don't know if that is fixed in BT4.0 or not.
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Wifi isn't power hungry actually, as it uses Wifi for data instead of 3G/4G which requires more power based on signal ect.
Also Wifi has alot of power saving protocols especially when in standby, more so then normal data.
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I'm positive he meant he leaves Wifi on even when he's not connected to a network.
I've had BT left on for months on my samsung note 2 and now my HTC One for a week and the battery effect is minimal as i monitor via betterbatterystats.
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I've had BT left on for months on my samsung note 2 and now my HTC One for a week and the battery effect is minimal as i monitor via betterbatterystats.
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If I leave BT on my SideKick4G my phone drains from 100 to 15 in about 3 hours. If I keep it off, my phone lasts 15+ hours. It was about the same with my T-Moible G1 before that as well. That is awesome news though, that they fixed that on newer phones.
Hey guys I got a question;
My wi-fi router seems to be broken, wi-fi signal drops too often (not just on my one, it also happens on my nexus 7 and one s so I think it is broken). My question is; does that make battery drain faster? I mean phone is constantly having on and off wi-fi.
Does the whole network get no data incoming, or are you connected to a WiFi that drops it's connections but still broadcasting it's SSID?
I loss incoming data completely. It happens to often, I mean maybe 6-7 times in a minute. And I noticed my phone's battery draining too fast even without me making a call or using an app or anything. So I suspected if that broken wi-fi causing it. If it is not my battery might have some problem too, which I hope not.
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I loss incoming data completely. It happens to often, I mean maybe 6-7 times in a minute. And I noticed my phone's battery draining too fast even without me making a call or using an app or anything. So I suspected if that broken wi-fi causing it. If it is not my battery might have some problem too, which I hope not.
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WiFi shouldn't drain any more than usual if incoming data is lost as long as you remain connected to the WiFi. I might be wrong though. Install GSAM Battery Monitor and see what's draining your battery the most. If you need a more detailed one, try Better Battery Stats (it's free for XDA users, it's in the App forum )
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WiFi shouldn't drain any more than usual if incoming data is lost as long as you remain connected to the WiFi. I might be wrong though. Install GSAM Battery Monitor and see what's draining your battery the most. If you need a more detailed one, try Better Battery Stats (it's free for XDA users, it's in the App forum )
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I can't find it.
And the thing is im not connected to wi-fi all the time, that's the problem. Maybe dropping off and connecting back all the time causes battery to drop low faster than usual, that's what I'm wondering.
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I can't find it.
And the thing is im not connected to wi-fi all the time, that's the problem. Maybe dropping off and connecting back all the time causes battery to drop low faster than usual, that's what I'm wondering.
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As long as you can see the WiFI logo on your phone it shouldn't matter whether there is a connection or not for battery drain.
BBS is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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As long as you can see the WiFI logo on your phone it shouldn't matter whether there is a connection or not for battery drain.
BBS is here
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WIFI logo disappears too.
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WIFI logo disappears too.
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Then yes it will drain. Your router is dropping the network as well as the connection, so that will drain a lot of battery cos the phone is constantly scanning for available networks when your router is down.
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Then yes it will drain. Your router is dropping the network as well as the connection, so that will drain a lot of battery cos the phone is constantly scanning for available networks when your router is down.
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Thank you sooo much. Now I can ask to my ISP for a new router. Thanks again.
Dharkan said:
Thank you sooo much. Now I can ask to my ISP for a new router. Thanks again.
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You're welcome