What are all the different spls for Dream Aka G1? i keep hearing like danger and hard spl?
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htcclay said:
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Thanks for the link i tried searching but couldnt find it.
That covers the "safe" SPLs, though in theory a bad flash with any bootloader can brick a phone. If you're interested in the "Danger" SPL, which is also known as the Haykuro SPL or the "newest" SPL, check the link in my sig. This SPL really isn't a problem to flash if you have a PVT board and if you make sure to flash to the latest radio first. It also frees up more room on your device, because it takes up less space and repartitions your device accordingly.
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Hey all,
I have a HTC Dream that has the following setup:
"Android on Skateboards" SPL
Maxishma's OS Build (4/Aug/09)
512MB Apps2SD EXT2 Partition
32MB Swap Partition
I'm thinking of installing this build on my HTC Dream, but it says something about needing a new SPL and Radio. I didn't want to risk bricking my phone, so I wanted to ask the community first.
On bootloader mode, I get the following:
DREA110 PVT 32B
HSPL10.95.3000
CPLD-4
RADIO-1.22.12.29
Oct 20 2008
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In the radio and SPL flashing guide, it said something about it having to be DREA100 or something. I wasn't sure.
Could someone please guide me the steps? I'm eager to try some of the Hero builds, and I'm just wanting to play it safe and not end up with a brick.
Thanks in advance,
Coburn64.
you have a pvt board so you should be good as long as you follow directions and FLASH RADIO BEFORE SPL. mayble one more time for the people in the brick seats. thats radio before the spl. but i digress. you should be all set as far as phone requirements. just make sure to read up on it so that you know all the steps and you to can run hero.
Yep just like David said your phone meets the requirements but read and reread before you do anything. Radio first then spl. And after you load spl you will have to flash a new rom cause the spl overwrites your existing rom. Just to let you know so your not freaked out.
Thanks for all the tips and info! I'll try this tonight and report back with any problems.
I've done a nandroid backup as well, does it save all your emails/contacts, etc?
Thanks again.
Nand saves your exact image including emails/contacts/messages?app settings. It will not save anything that's on your SD card so if you format your card you will need to re-download everything.
Good luck
I need to know whats the best spl with the highest range of compatibility because hardspl isnt going to cut it forever, or is it one of the best? and whats the difference between death,engineering(the developers i believe?) hryoken (dont know how to spell it) and hard spl?
there are 4 spls, stock, hard, eng, and the spl of many names though technically the 1.33.2005 spl. basically you will either use the hard spl or the 1.33.2005 spl. the 1.33.2005 spls opens up more space in /system and /data so that you have more room for roms and themes. it can also brick the phone when flashing it. you really didn't search very much before making this did you?
I think haykuros danger spl is the best but its danger to flash this spl
david1171 said:
there are 4 spls, stock, hard, eng, and the spl of many names though technically the 1.33.2005 spl. basically you will either use the hard spl or the 1.33.2005 spl. the 1.33.2005 spls opens up more space in /system and /data so that you have more room for roms and themes. it can also brick the phone when flashing it. you really didn't search very much before making this did you?
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so hard and engineering spls are pretty much the same thing while all the other spls that can possible brick your phone, dont add anything? just more space?
Read the wiki, it lists them and what they are.
Can i install the danger SPL on the dream100 pvt or i'm risking to brick the phone? i didn't saw somewhere the guide for this kind of phone....
Thanks in advance
atsic said:
Can i install the danger SPL on the dream100 pvt or i'm risking to brick the phone? i didn't saw somewhere the guide for this kind of phone....
Thanks in advance
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There is *NO BENEFIT* to it (despite what all the MORONS will claim, it is NOT required for ANYTHING), and regardless of your hardware, there is ALWAYS a risk.
Fact is that the deathspl is NOT COMPATIBLE with ANY HTC DREAM, so don't be using it!
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There is *NO BENEFIT* to it (despite what all the MORONS will claim, it is NOT required for ANYTHING), and regardless of your hardware, there is ALWAYS a risk.
Fact is that the deathspl is NOT COMPATIBLE with ANY HTC DREAM, so don't be using it!
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it means that if i would like to install a version of eclaire where everywere is requied a danger spl i don't need this spl? I can install it with any sort of problem without the update of the spl?
thanks
atsic said:
it means that if i would like to install a version of eclaire where everywere is requied a danger spl i don't need this spl? I can install it with any sort of problem without the update of the spl?
thanks
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All it means is that the rom dev was REALLY LAZY. All you need to do is a VERY MINOR modification and resign to the update.zip. Move some files into /cache and symlink them back.
Or, you could simply use a rom where the rom dev(s) aren't so lazy and actually made the thing to intelligently move files around...
i.e. this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629932
or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624545
(note re the second one: the requirements list shows DEATHSPL. This is NOT the case.)
lbcoder said:
All it means is that the rom dev was REALLY LAZY. All you need to do is a VERY MINOR modification and resign to the update.zip. Move some files into /cache and symlink them back.
Or, you could simply use a rom where the rom dev(s) aren't so lazy and actually made the thing to intelligently move files around...
i.e. this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=629932
or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624545
(note re the second one: the requirements list shows DEATHSPL. This is NOT the case.)
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Im confused. Im not trying to offend you (as maybe Im not getting something), but are you saying that Dwang and Cyanogen ar lazy? After all, they are responsible for Super D 1.8 (which I hear is AWESOME) and it requires the danger spl.
Or is there a better way to flash Super D?
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Im confused. Im not trying to offend you (as maybe Im not getting something), but are you saying that Dwang and Cyanogen ar lazy? After all, they are responsible for Super D 1.8 (which I hear is AWESOME) and it requires the danger spl.
Or is there a better way to flash Super D?
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They are not responsible for Super-D but rather their work is the base for it. I don't agree with lbcoder but I understand what he is saying. Lazy is not the choise of words I would choose to use.
billquinn1 said:
They are not responsible for Super-D but rather their work is the base for it. I don't agree with lbcoder but I understand what he is saying. Lazy is not the choise of words I would choose to use.
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Gotcha. Im assuming then that you have nothing against using the Danger SPL when required (and if the hardware matches)?
Lazy, ignorant, how about a FAKE.
99.9% of rom cookers haven't the FAINTEST idea what they're doing. They haven't written a single line of code in their LIVES and all they do is mix and match APK files in the update archive, put their own personalized B.S. in the build.prop file, and resign the archive.
So "lazy" *IS* the right word. Too lazy to actually learn something of any significance. Note: the work needed to get ANY rom onto a STOCK SPL is quite literally *TRIVIAL*. Drag a few files around, add a couple of lines to the update-script, done.
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Gotcha. Im assuming then that you have nothing against the Danger SPL when required (and if the hardware matches)?
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The only hardware that it matches is HTC MAGIC, which is where it was copied from.
lbcoder said:
The only hardware that it matches is HTC MAGIC, which is where it was copied from.
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Wow. Ok, now I'm a bit paranoid to flash Super D tomorrow on my G1 (waiting on Class 6 micro), as I haven't heard this issue brought up before.
The forums have been chock full of anger lately. Not sure where it all comes from except maybe the weather has people down.
I think the WG roms do not require the Danger SPL so that would be a good choice. Our phones are a very tight fit but some roms do fit just fine.
I am running out of here with my head down! Good Luck.
So no answers that are clearing the situation. Is possible or not to install Danger SPL/ Death SPL over the DREA100 PVT version???
atsic said:
So no answers that are clearing the situation. Is possible or not to install Danger SPL/ Death SPL over the DREA100 PVT version???
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Yes just follow this guide and you will be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
Joe333x said:
Yes just follow this guide and you will be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625886
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The problem is that on my phone is showed DREA100 PVT and not "DREAM PVT" as the guide says to be. Can i flash anyway?
atsic said:
The problem is that on my phone is showed DREA100 PVT and not "DREAM PVT" as the guide says to be. Can i flash anyway?
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Which SPL are you currently using? You should be fine since you have a PVT board, its just the DVT boards that cannot use the Danger SPL. When I reboot holding the camera button this is what the top line says
"DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF"
What does yours say?
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Which SPL are you currently using? You should be fine since you have a PVT board, its just the DVT boards that cannot use the Danger SPL. When I reboot holding the camera button this is what the top line says
"DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF"
What does yours say?
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holding camera and power button appear
DREA100 PVT 32B
HBOOT-0.95.0000
CPLD-4
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
This in in the upper left corner.
More down and centered is also written Seria10
Hope that is useful.
Are you still on the stock SPL? I just did a little googling and it seems that DREA100 PVT 32B is normal to see on the stock SPL. The key is to know that you have a PVT board, which you do. I would say you should be fine. Check out the link in my sig and ask in that thread and maybe someone else will weight in. The dev section gets a lot more traffic than the q&a section.
Don't let lbcoder scare you, if you know what your doing, DEATH spl is completely safe. Follow Joe's guide, its easy to follow and guaranteed not to screw you up. I've been using death spl for the last few months and my G1 is still running It makes life a helluva lot easier for you just to have it installed, then you won't have to worry about a rom not fitting in your phone. GL
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Are you still on the stock SPL? I just did a little googling and it seems that DREA100 PVT 32B is normal to see on the stock SPL. The key is to know that you have a PVT board, which you do. I would say you should be fine. Check out the link in my sig and ask in that thread and maybe someone else will weight in. The dev section gets a lot more traffic than the q&a section.
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Yes of course is the stock SPL.
I posted on the other 3ad too. Thanks anyway!
Sorry I posted this in the wrong subforum, so I'm reposting it here:
theunlockr.com/2010/04/26/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-htc-g1-dream/
I used this site to root my g1, while it claims the SPL on the site is the Hardspl, I believe it's the danger spl, can someone confirm this for me?
My phone says
HBoot - 1.33.2005
radio 2.22.19.26I
danger, hard, soft, death. haykuro are all the same thing more or less, they all work for the same purpose.
just sorta nick names for them since flashing them have the greatest chance of bricking your phone if done incorrectly. originally it was just Haykuro's
Hi everybody
I rooted a G1, I downgrade it with 29RC, then I made the installation of the recovery-RA-dream-v1.7.0 following the flashed the radio (G1-radio-2_22_23_02 and the spl (Latest G1 SPL). I used the 1.6 DRD 3611745 test-keys rooted firmware.
Everything is working well, but when I try to install a firmware as update-cm-6.0.0-DS-RC3-signed, Chromatic 4.4 or extreme-froyo an error showed:
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getprop("ro.bootloader")=="1.33.2011" II ( this message is repeated on the G1)
E:Error in /sdcard/update-cm-6.0.0-DS-RC3-signed (Status 7)
Installation aborted.
Also I tried to update it with update-cm-5.0.7-DS-test3-signed and it was accepted but it does not boot, it stay with the G1 logo.
What could be wrong?, I restore with my rooted backup (1.6) and it work again without problems.
Your comments with be appreciated.
bengar
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getprop("ro.bootloader")=="1.33.2011" II ( this message is repeated on the G1)
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Since no one else has answered I'll give it a try. The 1.33.2011 bootloader line sounds fishy on a G1. What does the actual bootloader screen say? (Camera+Power startup)
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Since no one else has answered I'll give it a try. The 1.33.2011 bootloader line sounds fishy on a G1. What does the actual bootloader screen say? (Camera+Power startup)
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Thank you oldnoob for the response. Well it looks like this:
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DREA100 PVT 32B
CLPD-4
RADIO-2.22.23.02
Oct 20 2008
Ok what he is mainly asking you is in bootloader you see the spl. That's what he's saying looks fishy. The rest of what you got looks ok. So tell him what spl your reading in bootloader. And what your bootloader looks like.
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Xx12thANG3LxX
Thank you, the spl read as follow:
HSPL10.95.3000
Ok well you know you flashed the radio if it says 2.22.23.02. You have the pvt goin on. So now for the scary part. 1.33.2005 danger spl. As long as you have that radio your good. But make sure ya hear me!!!! When you flash rc29 it will downgrade that radio. So you have to reflash it. BEFORE danger spl 1.33.2005
Good luck may the force be with you!!!
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So just make sure you go into bootloader holding camera+power button together. Make sure you have radio 2.22.23.02 then you may flash the 1.33.2005 danger spl. Then when you go back into bootloader you'll see the new spl. And the bootloader will have three android skateboarders on it. Then you know your good. And then boot recovery. Wipe. Flash the rom .zip from sdcard. See the problem your having is the spl you have right now. Can't handle the size of the rom your trying to flash.
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Xx12thANG3LxX said:
So just make sure you go into bootloader holding camera+power button together. Make sure you have radio 2.22.23.02 then you may flash the 1.33.2005 danger spl. Then when you go back into bootloader you'll see the new spl. And the bootloader will have three android skateboarders on it. Then you know your good. And then boot recovery. Wipe. Flash the rom .zip from sdcard. See the problem your having is the spl you have right now. Can't handle the size of the rom your trying to flash.
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Thank you very much, that was the problem as I see I used a wrong spl. But when I hold the camera+power button together I have the three android skateboard on it. Right now I have the G1 with the 1.6 version rooted. In order to make it works for future firmware versions I will need to unroot the G1 with downgrade it again to the RC29, then downgrade the original radio and spl and start from scratch. Or only reflash the new radio and reflash spl but using the danger version.
PD
This G1 is not my is from a friend, but compared with my G1 and it has the danger spl, I will need to reflash the danger spl to my friends' G1.
regards
bengar
Xx12thANG3LxX said:
Ok well you know you flashed the radio if it says 2.22.23.02. You have the pvt goin on. So now for the scary part. 1.33.2005 danger spl. As long as you have that radio your good. But make sure ya hear me!!!! When you flash rc29 it will downgrade that radio. So you have to reflash it. BEFORE danger spl 1.33.2005
Good luck may the force be with you!!!
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Why you guys want to install always DangerSPL? It's never needed, there are much more flexible and more secure ways to get enough space for FroYo-ROMs.
Only my 2 cent.
Andisa has a point. Not super needed anymore. But its just what I run. And once you got it the first time. No headache or chances after that. But no when you change roms you do not need to go and do that all over again to answer your question. So now if you have the proper radio and spl. You installed a custom recovery. Now go ahead put zip file on sd wipe and flash. You should be good to go.
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Xx12thANG3LxX said:
Andisa has a point. Not super needed anymore. But its just what I run. And once you got it the first time. No headache or chances after that. But no when you change roms you do not need to go and do that all over again to answer your question. So now if you have the proper radio and spl. You installed a custom recovery. Now go ahead put zip file on sd wipe and flash. You should be good to go.
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Xx12thANG3LxX
In my own G1, I have the danger spl installed too and never have had any problems with it, in this case, when I was flashing this G1 I knew that I was using the last radio but when I was ready to flash the spl I saw that I had two versions, the Latest G1 SPL, and haykuro_new_spl-signed.
I had selected the Lastest G1, After that I flashed with the last roms mentioned above and here I am trying to fix this. All the ways, the 1.6 is running smooth. Thank you for all and I am very happy to all your help.
bengar
No problem. I'm glad we got it working for ya
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