As many of you are probably aware, Windows Mobile 6.5 or as M$ calls it lately, Windows Phone 6.5 is only a stepping stone on the way to a real mobile OS designed for fingerfriendly devices.
WinMo 6.5 is actually in many terms only a "visual" upgrade of WinMo 6.1 which makes WinMo more fingerfriendly and makes it look more sexy but in the end, it's still Windows Mobile as we know it. (If you disagree just look at the calender application in 6.5 )
What Microsoft is preparing to fight Android, Blackberry OS 5.0 and iPhone OS is Windows Phone 7. Rumors have it that it will be designed from the ground up and will be designed from the beginning for the use on touchscreen devices, designed for input using nothing but your finger. Windows Phone 7 and 6.5 will be marketed parallel, meaning high-end devices will get Windows Phone 7 and lower-end devices will get the 6.5 version.
So what has it all to do with the Rhodium ROM forunm ?
Simple: Since the Rhodium is pretty much a (very)high-end device I am aware that many people will want to use Windows Phone 7 on it, once it is released. You may say: the relese of Windows Phone is due in 2010 and thats a long, long time from now, but most people buy phones to use them at least 2 years and the Touch Pro 2 being such a great device I can easily imagine sticking to it for even longer. (There arent many similiar phones at the time which offer the same build-quality, the same high-res screen or the great 5-row qwerty in one package, and I guess I am lucky if there is 1 new device like this on the market every year.)
But now to my question. Since those rumours say Windows Mobile 7 will be built from the ground-up, do you guys think it will be possible to get this working on the Rhodium ?
I know a lot of this will be speculation but I want to know your opinion.
If the kernel is completely new will it run on the Rhodium ? Will there be any1 even interested in 1-2 years porting this to the Rhodium ?? etc, etc
As I understand it's still a very long way of, Q4 2010, which means it could easily end up being Q2 2011 or something. Haven't seen any screen shots or really solid info. I'm better it will be quite some time before we see a TP2 rom based on WM7, or I guess WP7.
In true MS style (now don't get me wrong I'm an MS guy all the way, forget mac, forget linux, forget android, I only use win Mo, and win OS), I'm sure that when 7 drops you're gonna need snap dragon processor or better, just like when 6.5 finally droped most 6.1 mobiles could run it, but not very well. infact ngrz28 ROm on the tp2 is the first device/6.5 rom that it actaully ran smooth on.
back in the day, it use to be the The Software was tryin to keep up with the hardware, then it became the hardware trying to keep up with the the software (say crysis 2 ms os...etc).. But the truth is it will always be the software tryin to keep up with with the software, beacause the hardware companies, intel,TI,SYsop, only release the hardware that has been already developed , and moth balling, when the software has caught up enough... MS ain't **** without Intel, its a sysmbosis between the hardwae developers and the software developers, and a Conspiriousy. Long story short the release of a winmo 7 would me you have to upgrade your hardware, so lets worry about getting the most out of 6.5 and enjoying it
when i bought my tp2 last night the guy at the tmobile store said i can upgrade to windows 7 but i wont have my favs cuz tmobile doesnt support windows 7. JUST A FYI.
Enlefo said:
As I understand it's still a very long way of, Q4 2010, which means it could easily end up being Q2 2011 or something. Haven't seen any screen shots or really solid info. I'm better it will be quite some time before we see a TP2 rom based on WM7, or I guess WP7.
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here some pic`s
the people at T-mobile, will tell u anything.
check this example, I always just call Tmobile, tell the the phone I want and it goes on my account. I called for the TP2, and the guy said we have it can ship today, but if u go to a T-mo store they can break the payments up so I don't have to pay the full $400 something price on the next bill worse case secanario I'd have to pay the fist payment on in at the store., I said ok, let me check this out if nothing else I'll get the phone today. went to my local T-mobile store, guy said I had to pay 300 something today and and that I had had a 120 dollar credit, and that would be split over the next 4 bills. I said Peace and got my phone 2 days later no money outta pocket?
Windows Phone (Moible) 7 only runs on two processors - Snapdragon from Qualcomm and Terga from Nvidia.
In 7 there is a concept of a Chassis - A defined hardware specification which is consistant across all 7.x devices. This will allow MS to brings high end computing (read Xbox) to Moible devices.
http://www.engadget.com/tag/windows+mobile+7+chassis+1/
In Short... The only device which is public today and capable of running 7 is the Zune HD. No other hardware in market has the defined spec 7 needs.
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the people at T-mobile, will tell u anything.
check this example, I always just call Tmobile, tell the the phone I want and it goes on my account. I called for the TP2, and the guy said we have it can ship today, but if u go to a T-mo store they can break the payments up so I don't have to pay the full $400 something price on the next bill worse case secanario I'd have to pay the fist payment on in at the store., I said ok, let me check this out if nothing else I'll get the phone today. went to my local T-mobile store, guy said I had to pay 300 something today and and that I had had a 120 dollar credit, and that would be split over the next 4 bills. I said Peace and got my phone 2 days later no money outta pocket?
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I did the exact same thing on 8/12. I called a local store and they told me about the $120 credit and that I didn't have to pay out of pocket if I ordered it from the 800 number. So the guy put the order through for me and all i had to do was call t-mo and tell them to ship it. I asked them about the $120 credit and they told me that instead of paying the whole 400 it could be broken up. 270 something on next bill and 40 on the following 3 bills. I received the phone on 8/14 and still haven't started to pay the for phone yet.
i didnt care i just wanted a new phone i hated the dash3g. but i should of known he didnt know crap of what he was talking about cuz he tried to tell me about skyfire but instead said a different named LoL
I don't understand there end game, I'd rather have it put on my my next next bil via the phone order, cause I over paid this bill, and I'll pay the balance next bill, u don't get any advantage going to the store, At&t use to put everything on my bill, even assecories when I went to the store
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I did the exact same thing on 8/12. I called a local store and they told me about the $120 credit and that I didn't have to pay out of pocket if I ordered it from the 800 number. So the guy put the order through for me and all i had to do was call t-mo and tell them to ship it. I asked them about the $120 credit and they told me that instead of paying the whole 400 it could be broken up. 270 something on next bill and 40 on the following 3 bills. I received the phone on 8/14 and still haven't started to pay the for phone yet.
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i didnt care i just wanted a new phone i hated the dash3g. but i should of known he didnt know crap of what he was talking about cuz he tried to tell me about skyfire but instead said a different named LoL
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I agree, if I hadn't bought an unlocked a Fuze, I would have stood on my head to get what I wanted LOL.
No but seriously, I grabbed the G1 when T-mobile dopped it, hacked it, finally bricked it beta'ing for JF, sold it, and bought an older Glofiish to to have the Winmo back, but I'm use to having my hardware put on the account, a couple of days wait ain't gonna kill me
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Thanks for the shots, but it's pretty ugly! I guess I would have to see how it looks ON my Rhodium.
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Thanks for the shots, but it's pretty ugly! I guess I would have to see how it looks ON my Rhodium.
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personally, I FREAKIN want wp7... get the touch phone what it was meant to be, touch, with winmo....
hey Heavy C, how do u like FutureROM? Thinking about trying it....
Thoughts?
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personally, I FREAKIN want wp7... get the touch phone what it was meant to be, touch, with winmo....
hey Heavy C, how do u like FutureROM? Thinking about trying it....
Thoughts?
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Sent you a PM...
I am not too much worried as i will probably be using Touch Pro 3 or 4 by then
hmm
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I am not too much worried as i will probably be using Touch Pro 3 or 4 by then
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hehe yea.. .
but anyway if they say WinMo Chassis is Tegra or Snapdragon, in 2010/2011 those will be pretty antique by then i guess...
I just got the TMo TP2 on a new 2 yr contract. I'll be sticking with it and 6.1/6.5 until I'm a free agent again. Then I'll be looking for a TP3 powered by the Snapdragon 2 and WinMo 7.5. Or maybe wait out a 3rd year for the TP4 and WinMo 8.
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By the time it is out, the TP2 will be old news at a guess.
Never the less I'm sure devs here will give it there best efforts to run it on as many devices as possible. Until we actually start seeing Win Mo 7 builds tip up, we arn't going to know.
P.S. I wouldn't take those screen shots as much, have you seen the number of changes to the 6.5 UI in the last month?
Thanks
Dave
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By the time it is out, the TP2 will be old news at a guess.
Never the less I'm sure devs here will give it there best efforts to run it on as many devices as possible. Until we actually start seeing Win Mo 7 builds tip up, we arn't going to know.
P.S. I wouldn't take those screen shots as much, have you seen the number of changes to the 6.5 UI in the last month?
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Dave
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Yes, and actually I just think theyre conceptual, made in Photoshop...(I'm a grafics artist myself and do things like that too..)
The shot with the Office in it looks like if a shot of Office on PC was taken and scaled down to fit into it...
aspect ratio just aint right...
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Yes, and actually I just think theyre conceptual, made in Photoshop...(I'm a grafics artist myself and do things like that too..)
The shot with the Office in it looks like if a shot of Office on PC was taken and scaled down to fit into it...
aspect ratio just aint right...
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Plus, if they're meant to be making it more finger friendly, that version of office definately does not look finger friendly to me... lol
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I really like the Tilt, but the WM OS is just not for me. I really, really just hate it.
BUT, before i get rid of it, i wanted to know, is there any hope for the near future of running a custom Andoid rom on this thing? not running it within WM, i'm talking about full blown Android stand alone?
Because if thats the case, i might just throw it in my closet for a few months.
if not, it better start packing its bags tonight!
Sorry for OOT, but I have the same feeling towards the OS, bro.
I hate all M$ product so much (make it PC or PPC), but in the end I HAVE TO USE THEM WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.
Just for the sake of compatibility with so many other person I live and interact with everyday.
You gotta learn to face it mate, hence, the frustration. I knew the feeling.
Actually there are alternatives like palm and apple, but only few uses or supports them. Which will make, in the end, worse frustration.
Android
Hi. See this link if you haven't yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
I'm sure it's a question of time 'till a standalone version comes out.
Cheers,
Draco
Android will be further down the road but it will be even later when we see a full-blown OS for the Tilt/Kaiser.
Once an Android OS is available though I will be flashing. I cannot stand WinMo either.
Curious but are you going to the iPhone instead?...I don't believe there are any other choices unless you're just going with a regular, non-smart/ppc phone.
Its going to be at least as long as it takes to release the first Android Phone to the general public, once thats done then the platform will open up more and be more accessible to us devs. I think Android is going to be amazing once its up and running properly on the MSM7200 chip set. But your best bet would be to hold on to your kaiser and put it in a drawer some place and buy another phone if you don't like the OS and the GUI that comes with it, if you can afford to do so. I am not a fan boy but if you don't need your phone as a business tool then the new 3G Iphone is the way to go in "MY" opinion (please do not turn this into an Apple VS Mac thread) Bottom line is HTC makes great business phones that they did a great job marketing as a general consumer "media" device which it is in some ways. But if your holding onto your kaiser in hopes of Android making everything perfect then your bubble needs to be burst..
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Curious but are you going to the iPhone instead?...I don't believe there are any other choices unless you're just going with a regular, non-smart/ppc phone.
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There are many other phones out there beside the HTC and Iphones Nokia makes some amazing phones that would blow the kaiser and Iphone out of the water! Also the new Sprint "Instinct"(i think thats the name) is also a really cool touch screen based device! Soon everything phone is going to be touch screen only, the way that the general consumer thinks touch screens are so High tech and cool....
Apple sold 1 Million phones in 2 days so people must like something about it. Personally if they upgraded the camera and some other things I would be dropping my kaiser in a second for it but I'll wait for the 3rd generation its going to be sick! Last note and I'll stop! Windows Mobile 7 is going to be a radical change for the kaiser and other Windows Mobile based phones so It may be worth it to hold on to your kaiser until that is released
Thanks for the replies fellas. I have been a very happy Symbian S60 user for about 1.5 years now. I bought a Tilt a few months back because i love to tinker, and the Tilt is the Closest competition to the N95, so of course i had to get it. My first and last WM phone though.
My main phone is a Nokia N95-4, and i swap out every once in a while with an N82.
You hit the nail on the head when you say that this is a "i get emails all day, and need to open word documents while on lunch" persons phone. but for me, its so damn frustrating and boring, i want to rip out my eyes. Thing is, take all that away, and your left with a not very good phone.
I just hope there is interest in the Tilt still for someone to make an Android rom by the time it comes out.
All im going to say is that if it werent for XDA-DEV, i would have chucked it out of my window, because the factory HTC roms are for the birds.
Have to comment on this one!
well, first of all i'm not sure our Kaisers can handle WM7 when it comes out. I don't like the current OS we're using and wanna say that i had a chat with a couple of people here on the forums and decided not to get an iPhone (although i still like it) and hold on to my Kaiser and wait for Android. It will take time, though..
I wish i needed a second phone.
I'd love my Tilt even more if the screen was just a little bit better about where i touch it... I do IT for a small company and there are 3 iphones, a lot of junk phones and my Tilt... Tilt does the most, iPhone is the easiest to use.
If you could buy a better screen for the Tilt, I'd throw down an extra $200 on it.
Back to the topic, I'd also recommend saving it, with stuff like this you will never get what it is worth from anyone and if nothing else, you have a tinker toy.
If you dont like kaiser and can afford, u might as well sell it off now. Its nearly an year since its release and that is the approximate life of a handset ( in terms of specification) .Futher down the year htc pro will be released, with better specs and that handset will be better suited for wm7 or android. Both these OS may not work great in kaiser. ( but for me kaiser has been the best handset ever ( thanks to this forum and hang.tuah)
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There are many other phones out there beside the HTC and Iphones Nokia makes some amazing phones that would blow the kaiser and Iphone out of the water! Also the new Sprint "Instinct"(i think thats the name) is also a really cool touch screen based device! Soon everything phone is going to be touch screen only, the way that the general consumer thinks touch screens are so High tech and cool....
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D'oh!...forgot Symbian phones.
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<snip>You hit the nail on the head when you say that this is a "i get emails all day, and need to open word documents while on lunch" persons phone. but for me, its so damn frustrating and boring, i want to rip out my eyes. Thing is, take all that away, and your left with a not very good phone. <snip>
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Well - obviously everyone sees something from a different perspective.
As a phone - the tilt is no better or worse than any other phone i have had. Remembering of course that cell signals have gotten better and more prevalent over time (I was an original Cellular One customer).
I do support for software so I need access to email on a pretty constant basis - I would have to get to the hotel immediately and check email - I would constantly have to have my laptop with me to check email to see if there were any problems brewing. I no longer have that "attchment" to the laptop. I have a freedom with this phone that I have never had before.
The fact that I can take it to the gym and listen to bluetooth headphones and get my music PLUS!
The fact that I can watch videos on the plane PLUS!
I can text and take and send pictures PLUS!
The fact that I no longer have to carry TOMTOM with me (the unit) when I am on the road and I ALWAYS have TOMTOM with me PLUS!
The fact that I can now whip out my phone and play a game when i am stuck for a few minutes and bored PLUS!
The fact that I can now find the local theater and see what is playing easily or the local Mexican restaurant PLUS!
The fact that I can get weather anywhere in the world easily PLUS!
The fact that I can get/add/change airline tickets easily PLUS!
The fact that I can add new programs to the phone easily PLUS!
So - from MY perspective - this is a drop dead incredible wonderful cannot do without it tool that makes my life better and more fun. It will only get replaced when there is something better available that does it truly better/faster/cheaper than my TILT.
From my vantage point,
Bill
Somehow, i really really doubt that... WM7 might use graphics a whole lot, and our phone doesnt have acceleration... We can just hope people can cook WM7 with drivers... Plus its still 6 months away, android is our best latest choice...
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Have to comment on this one!
well, first of all i'm not sure our Kaisers can handle WM7 when it comes out. I don't like the current OS we're using and wanna say that i had a chat with a couple of people here on the forums and decided not to get an iPhone (although i still like it) and hold on to my Kaiser and wait for Android. It will take time, though..
I wish i needed a second phone.
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Thanks for the replies fellas.
My main phone is a Nokia N95-4, and i swap out every once in a while with an N82.
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Have to ask, if you have the better nokia phones, why not just link a N810 tablet to your phone via bluetooth ? They aren't bad little devices. Except they run a version of linux. But there are apps that let you do alot of what you need a PPC/Laptop for.
I am actually fed up of everyone raving about the 'new windows phone'. I know its a good thing it just starting to bug me a little. All I hear my friends saying now is OMG I want a windows phone! And Im just there thinking I've had one for the last 6 months! They've been around for years! Theres nothing new!
Atleast the ad campaign in working though!
Anyone else fed of people thinking windows mobile's are new?
i agree mike, theres a lot more apps for winmo than there is for apple iphone
but the advertising hasnt let the people know
i myself am the only person at work with one of these phones (touch hd)
and now both my supervisor and his boss want winmophones
A worry for me now is everyone will expect them to be a computer and then this forum will slowly fill up with stupid morons trying load XP on it.
As for mike's point about advertising that is so true. If Microsoft did advertise (or Htc) then they would sell 10x more because 'Windows' is on there.
Haha! Agreed 200% with everything said so far.
Here is one for the MEGA ANNOYING "there's an app for that" adds:
http://e-strategyblog.com/2009/05/theres-an-app-for-that-iphone-parody-ad/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsutt87jOck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGAAsbgxAMA
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A worry for me now is everyone will expect them to be a computer and then this forum will slowly fill up with stupid morons trying load XP on it.
As for mike's point about advertising that is so true. If Microsoft did advertise (or Htc) then they would sell 10x more because 'Windows' is on there.
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Too late for the morons part. We saw that when the Tilt came out and they basically gave it away for free. Using a 'Windows Phone' is really quite a different experience and these phones are light years away from being idiot proof. That's why I love them.
anyone else seen this yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F92k35PIro
Windows phone ad imo its really really odd...
Saw it in the uk last night, without the at&t bit at the end
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anyone else seen this yet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F92k35PIro
Windows phone ad imo its really really odd...
Saw it in the uk last night, without the at&t bit at the end
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Hadn't seen it but don't think it's odd infact a advert that doesn't go we can do this, we can do that and still gets the point across
Just good to see advertising as it's long awaited.
Well windows phone is light years ahead of the so called I-Prone ... even a win mo released around 05 can beat the I-Prone.... and the one thing that I-Prone can never give is the customization that we get from win mo... we can select the brand the ram, processor, screen size, design but with I-Prone there's no specialty....
And i think they should also have a app to show different screen resolutions or may be different brand name LOL...
Definately, thats all I hear WINDOWS PHONE WINDOWS PHONE
Someone was telling me about the 'windows phone' about 1 hour ago, and pulled out my Touch HD, got onto the settings menu and showed him device information - Windows Professional 6.1 lol.
I guess with the TouchFLO 2 people are thinking it is some other software.
Talking to an iPhone owning friend yesterday "Windows is getting into mobile phones now" he said. I nearly fell off my chair laughing!
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Talking to an iPhone owning friend yesterday "Windows is getting into mobile phones now" he said. I nearly fell off my chair laughing!
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HA HA HA even i nearly fell of my chair laughing 'that windows phone is getting into mobile phone' ... ... Dude it's i phone who is new in market... windows been there for years but all those tech-blind person can never spot one.... so for them it's new LOL...
Now HTC http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC?blend=2&ob=1#p/a awesome finally the advertising starts
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Now HTC http://www.youtube.com/user/HTC?blend=2&ob=1#p/a awesome finally the advertising starts
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Thats a very good advert!! Now they need to put it up on TV!!
i dont know about you all but in Latvia Iphone was advertised on TV , nokia also, but no sign of HTC!! I didnt knew about HTC until the end of 2008, when I wanted to buy a Dell Axim, but my dads cousin suggested HTC cause theyre good(he works with computers and follows the news about technology)- thats how I got familiar with the name HTC, and bought myself a Touch HD!! Only thing Im dissapointed about is- when I bought Touch HD I didnt knew about SE X1- if I would have known then it would be a much harder choice for me (between HD and X1, not HD and Touch Pro) But still - Im happy with HD
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Thats a very good advert!! Now they need to put it up on TV!!
i dont know about you all but in Latvia Iphone was advertised on TV , nokia also, but no sign of HTC!! I didnt knew about HTC until the end of 2008, when I wanted to buy a Dell Axim, but my dads cousin suggested HTC cause theyre good(he works with computers and follows the news about technology)- thats how I got familiar with the name HTC, and bought myself a Touch HD!! Only thing Im dissapointed about is- when I bought Touch HD I didnt knew about SE X1- if I would have known then it would be a much harder choice for me (between HD and X1, not HD and Touch Pro) But still - Im happy with HD
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I just seen it earlier on UK TV, went to youtube to find it
Finally when i harp on to people about HTC they will know what i'm talking about
The night before last, my wife and I were watching T.V. and the new HTC commercial (the one showing the Hero, but without saying what model or service) came on and she said, "Wow, that's cool. Too bad it's only for Sprint." I said, "No, HTC phones are available for most carriers." She replied, "No, it just said 'Sprint'." I answered, "That's the HTC Hero, and it's available through Sprint. Other HTC phones are available on other carriers." She asked, "Then why don't you have one?" I picked up my Imagio and showed her where it says "HTC" on the back cover.
ETA: I've had WinMo phones since the XV6600 with WM2003
HTC phones have been out for ages now, but with this new advertising campaign and their new sense UI type handsets I think its going to quickly make it to the top. Ive been seeing more and more people on the street with HTC's and smart phones in general a good trend.
Would it be possible to update Imagio to WinMo 7 when it is available?
Thanks,
Mark
No. If I read right the min requirements for 7 Series is a Snapdragon. That's a 1GHz CPU, the Imagio only has a +500MHz CPU. I'm sure once we get an HSPL someone will be more then happy to cook a rom. But It will run like crap, if at all.
no update even the hd2 will not get it
no 6.5 hardware is capable of running 7.
Thanks for all the clarifications. Appreciate that!
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LOL The HD2 will get it. That's like the only phone that will.
What really gets my panties in a bunch.... wait... did I just type that out loud? ... is I was assured at the time of purchasing the Imagio that it would most definitely have winmo7 available for it when it was released. It was repeated over and over that winmo6.5 was simply an interim solution until 7 was released. It was THE determining factor for purchasing the Imagio and signing a 2 year contract. As for Microsoft... I'm through with buying any phone containing windows mobile OR phone... Winmo6.5 is the Windows Vista of the PDA.... a complete POS considering it was released to compete against the iphone and the droid.
Thanks, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Man I don't even care about WinMo 7 anymore lol.
Not a fan of the interface.
Do want 6.5.3 though.
I'm looking forward to WinMo7. I just hope that we can get this unlock bull**** taken care of before it comes out - which I'm sure won't be for quite a while yet if I know Microsoft! Yeah, I know that they're saying it'll be out soon, but I seriously doubt it. On the other hand, I love this Imagio so much that I'm not really missing the hard unlock. So, lots to see about....
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What really gets my panties in a bunch.... wait... did I just type that out loud? ... is I was assured at the time of purchasing the Imagio that it would most definitely have winmo7 available for it when it was released. It was repeated over and over that winmo6.5 was simply an interim solution until 7 was released. It was THE determining factor for purchasing the Imagio and signing a 2 year contract. As for Microsoft... I'm through with buying any phone containing windows mobile OR phone... Winmo6.5 is the Windows Vista of the PDA.... a complete POS considering it was released to compete against the iphone and the droid.
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weeelllll.. now hang on a sec. i dont think it was ever designed to be a competitor of iphone, per sey. that said, i think that *every* smartphone/ppc is positioned to compete w/the iphone. as for it not being able to run winmo 7, who cares?? just get another phone once it comes out..u do realize that it's going to be some time before it does finally make it to the hallowed shelves of verizon - i don't care *what* they say. w/verizon and microsoft it's always 'i'll believe it when i see it'. as for droid, haven't seen it yet but am planning to make it into a verizon store this weekend - very much doubt it but that's the plan as of this second!! so stick around m8.. u may be pleasantly surprised..
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What really gets my panties in a bunch.... wait... did I just type that out loud? ... is I was assured at the time of purchasing the Imagio that it would most definitely have winmo7 available for it when it was released. It was repeated over and over that winmo6.5 was simply an interim solution until 7 was released. It was THE determining factor for purchasing the Imagio and signing a 2 year contract. As for Microsoft... I'm through with buying any phone containing windows mobile OR phone... Winmo6.5 is the Windows Vista of the PDA.... a complete POS considering it was released to compete against the iphone and the droid.
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Why would you ever believe a saleperson from any cell provider? Specially on Minmo7. Odds are heavily in favor of you knowing way more than they do, even if you know nothing about nothing.
Most of the dudes that work in the VZW stores are lucky to remember their names.
I did read on a MS blog that WM7 would not be available for the phones that preceded the WM7 phone.
7 wont be on 6.5 phones. no matter what, it isnt happening.
its PHYSICALLY not possible.
hope for 6.5.whatever and be thankful if you get it.
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weeelllll.. now hang on a sec. i dont think it was ever designed to be a competitor of iphone, per sey. that said, i think that *every* smartphone/ppc is positioned to compete w/the iphone. as for it not being able to run winmo 7, who cares?? just get another phone once it comes out..u do realize that it's going to be some time before it does finally make it to the hallowed shelves of verizon - i don't care *what* they say. w/verizon and microsoft it's always 'i'll believe it when i see it'. as for droid, haven't seen it yet but am planning to make it into a verizon store this weekend - very much doubt it but that's the plan as of this second!! so stick around m8.. u may be pleasantly surprised..
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Man! I'm self employed and still don't have the disposable income that a fair amount of people have in these forums. In the current state of the economy who can afford to purchase phones every time a new one comes out? I sure can't.
Regarding Win 6.5.... loaded the most recent update to it and it's made a ton of difference regarding the use of the phone, speed, and the constant lockups I was experiencing prior. At this stage I have settled into the Imagio and have loaded a ton of apps that make it much more convenient in just about every aspect of my day. Figure since Win7 will never be available I'll take the plunge soon and load one of the new roms on it. Also curious to try out the droid OS now available.
Still... while there was a great deal of initial enthusiasm regarding the Imagio... it looks like that enthusiasm has died off really quick which would seem to translate to less being done to continue to enhance the product on all fronts... including here.
Time will tell.
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Man! I'm self employed and still don't have the disposable income that a fair amount of people have in these forums. In the current state of the economy who can afford to purchase phones every time a new one comes out? I sure can't.
Regarding Win 6.5.... loaded the most recent update to it and it's made a ton of difference regarding the use of the phone, speed, and the constant lockups I was experiencing prior. At this stage I have settled into the Imagio and have loaded a ton of apps that make it much more convenient in just about every aspect of my day. Figure since Win7 will never be available I'll take the plunge soon and load one of the new roms on it. Also curious to try out the droid OS now available.
Still... while there was a great deal of initial enthusiasm regarding the Imagio... it looks like that enthusiasm has died off really quick which would seem to translate to less being done to continue to enhance the product on all fronts... including here.
Time will tell.
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Yeah, I hear you. It does get quite expensive. But think of it as a hobby.. That might help justify its cost. Or, stick w/what you have and love it. All these phones have serious sweetness creds. Before I bought the Imagio, I was using a 3 year old Touch. It suited my purposes fine and I bought the Imagio only bc my Touch was all scratched and generally messed up.
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Yeah, I hear you. It does get quite expensive. But think of it as a hobby.. That might help justify its cost. Or, stick w/what you have and love it. All these phones have serious sweetness creds. Before I bought the Imagio, I was using a 3 year old Touch. It suited my purposes fine and I bought the Imagio only bc my Touch was all scratched and generally messed up.
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Oh, and as for WinMo7...meh. But if it really *is* something great and wonderful, that could make a difference for me. But I highly doubt it.
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weeelllll.. now hang on a sec. i dont think it was ever designed to be a competitor of iphone, per sey. that said, i think that *every* smartphone/ppc is positioned to compete w/the iphone. as for it not being able to run winmo 7, who cares?? just get another phone once it comes out..u do realize that it's going to be some time before it does finally make it to the hallowed shelves of verizon - i don't care *what* they say. w/verizon and microsoft it's always 'i'll believe it when i see it'. as for droid, haven't seen it yet but am planning to make it into a verizon store this weekend - very much doubt it but that's the plan as of this second!! so stick around m8.. u may be pleasantly surprised..
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well good thing that you doubt it. I tried out the kin two with win mo 7 and i have to say.. it is a huuge adjustment. One thing that bothered me the most... there is no apps for the phone. yea u heard me
I have purchased windows based smartphones since it was the ONLY player in the market with Windows CE 1.0. I have probably purchased 12 to 15 different variations of a windows based smartphone over the last 10 years. I have developed apps left and right for win ce and winmo. The fact that Microsoft has created immediate obsolescence on every winmo 6.5 phone by not allowing forward migration is the final straw for me. Particularly with an OS that effectively will have NO support when it's released for 3rd party apps. I really believe microsoft has lost what ever clout and status they had in the pda market for good. I will NEVER purchase another MS based smartphone again. Bill Gates can sit on them and spin. In the end I have to say that the Imagio, while giving the promise of longevity, expandibility, and all around blissfulness, has turned out to be the worst, bar none, pda purchase I have ever made. And I am still stuck with 14 months left on this *&*^*) assed 2 year verizon contract on it.
Purchased my first Droid the other day. The Droid X. MAN what a beautiful pda! This thing does mega circles around my Imagio and winmo. With the 60,000 plus apps available for it... my ability to build apps around it as well... and the shear elegance of the unit... this may very well be the last pda I ever purchase.
As the Imagio fades into "paper weight" status... Homer Dokes rides off into the sunset with his Droid X at his side.... tomorrow will be a good day!
Wow
You must of had some Really Great phones before the Imagio if that is your worst one ever! What were they?!!! I want to get one!
I have done all my research on the new HD7. I currently have the HD2 and love what WM7 lacks right now. Such as cut and paste and tethering. I use those all the time! But, I HATE my HD2. It freezes like crazy, always lagging, I have to soft reset 1-2 times a day. So I"m ready to upgrade to WM7. I've owned an Android before, g1, and loved it, but I like WM a bit more. I started to look at the MyTouch4g, but I keep getting pulled ot the HD7. So my dilema ow is, should I upgrade to the HD7 from my HD2. Is the current WinMo7 worth it? Has anyone has a change to play around with the new system. I've read so many good, and some "ok" and many just an HD2 with a new outfit.
I also know it's a personal choice by far. But what are YOUR opinions. What do you like/dislike compared to others.
I have to say I'm loving mine and think it's a good thing (in a funny way) that there are features missing. We get to look forward to updates to a system that has really great foundations.
Having said that there is a bit of a danger in thinking that every missing feature and every imaginable improvement will make it into imminent updates. MS are in this for the long haul and some improvements won't materialise over the lifetime of the initial batch of phones.
Copy/paste will be coming soon but we just don't know other features. We can just hope. So, if you can't live without tethering it might be worth waiting until early next year to see if news emerges on a timescale.
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I have done all my research on the new HD7. I currently have the HD2 and love what WM7 lacks right now. Such as cut and paste and tethering. I use those all the time! But, I HATE my HD2. It freezes like crazy, always lagging, I have to soft reset 1-2 times a day. So I"m ready to upgrade to WM7. I've owned an Android before, g1, and loved it, but I like WM a bit more. I started to look at the MyTouch4g, but I keep getting pulled ot the HD7. So my dilema ow is, should I upgrade to the HD7 from my HD2. Is the current WinMo7 worth it? Has anyone has a change to play around with the new system. I've read so many good, and some "ok" and many just an HD2 with a new outfit.
I also know it's a personal choice by far. But what are YOUR opinions. What do you like/dislike compared to others.
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I still have my i637 jack. I suggest you wait like me, We got to atleast see if Microsoft is gonna even mention addressing the other issues besides the ones they say they will fix in early 2011. Although im personally seeing are they gonna stay true to their words by listening to their supporters.
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I have done all my research on the new HD7. I currently have the HD2 and love what WM7 lacks right now. Such as cut and paste and tethering. I use those all the time! But, I HATE my HD2. It freezes like crazy, always lagging, I have to soft reset 1-2 times a day. So I"m ready to upgrade to WM7. I've owned an Android before, g1, and loved it, but I like WM a bit more. I started to look at the MyTouch4g, but I keep getting pulled ot the HD7. So my dilema ow is, should I upgrade to the HD7 from my HD2. Is the current WinMo7 worth it? Has anyone has a change to play around with the new system. I've read so many good, and some "ok" and many just an HD2 with a new outfit.
I also know it's a personal choice by far. But what are YOUR opinions. What do you like/dislike compared to others.
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You have 14 days with T-Mobile to return the phone and get a new one or reverse your upgrade if you choose to. You pretty much have nothing to lose. Rather than asking everyone else what they think, the best thing to do is always to just get the phone yourself, try it out and see if you like it.
That being said, the HD2 ran an unfortunately unfriendly and antiquated operating system that was not designed for nor optimized for the HD2. Even HTC's Sense could not save it. Sad because its still a top-notch phone hardware wise. Which is why Windows Phone 7 was built from the ground up and optimized for hardware matching the HD2 and beyond. If you've seen any videos online, you should notice how dramatically smoother and seamless the whole experience is.
When people talk about about how the HD7 is just an HD2 in a new outfit, that is totally correct. It is the HD2 essentially, hardware wise. But the outfit is just as important as the hardware, and Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile 6.5, not by a long shot.
Try out the phone, if it turns out that its not for you, then please take advantage of the return policy and try out a different phone. That's the only way you'll really get a real opinion.
I will be jumping ship on November 8 over to the HD7 and T-Mobile. The Evo, as awesome a hardware as it is, simply does not have the 'outfit' to match it. Windows Phone 7 provides the polish, features, and speed that I need, and I can't wait.
I'm going to get the HD7 on Nov 8th as well. I've used Android since the G1 and ave had just about every Android phone T-Mo offers (except the Behold 2). Right now I have the myTouch 4G, and while it is an awesome phone, it's not doing it for me. I really like how WP7 looks. I also have a Zune HD, and I like the software on it, and WP7 is very similar.
If you are prepared to wait for the new OS to mature and for "jailbreaks and hacks" to become available then go for it. If you want to be abe to tweak from day 1 and have every possible feature that is out there then stay with 6.5 or go for android. I have a horrible feeling these forums are going to fill up with people moaning about lack of this that or the other feature. I myself like the interface so much that I want to be part of the WP7 thing from day 1 hence I have my HD7 already and am lovin it warts an all!!
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You have 14 days with T-Mobile to return the phone and get a new one or reverse your upgrade if you choose to. You pretty much have nothing to lose. Rather than asking everyone else what they think, the best thing to do is always to just get the phone yourself, try it out and see if you like it.
That being said, the HD2 ran an unfortunately unfriendly and antiquated operating system that was not designed for nor optimized for the HD2. Even HTC's Sense could not save it. Sad because its still a top-notch phone hardware wise. Which is why Windows Phone 7 was built from the ground up and optimized for hardware matching the HD2 and beyond. If you've seen any videos online, you should notice how dramatically smoother and seamless the whole experience is.
When people talk about about how the HD7 is just an HD2 in a new outfit, that is totally correct. It is the HD2 essentially, hardware wise. But the outfit is just as important as the hardware, and Windows Phone 7 is not Windows Mobile 6.5, not by a long shot.
Try out the phone, if it turns out that its not for you, then please take advantage of the return policy and try out a different phone. That's the only way you'll really get a real opinion.
I will be jumping ship on November 8 over to the HD7 and T-Mobile. The Evo, as awesome a hardware as it is, simply does not have the 'outfit' to match it. Windows Phone 7 provides the polish, features, and speed that I need, and I can't wait.
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Kind of what he said. Buy it and see. I'm getting it because I want to be part of the new revolution of Winmo. And honestly, have found myself not to concerned about what it's lacking as hell, it still the basic things you expect in a smartphone and I'm willing to give up some the apps I've used on Winmo and Android ports to the HD2. Most of them are just because I wanted to do something and not really needed. But with a browser, slingplayer coming soon, office, phone calls, text, and Slacker for streaming radio. That pretty much rounds up the stuff that I use on a regular basis (oh just need a golfgps app) and that's it. But, I'm planning on keeping my HD2, juuust in case there is something I need. My advice, jump into and see what you think and try not to think about the very minor things you'll be missing. You might actually find that you start finding more time for real life as opposed to your virtual phone life that's wasted from having billions of apps to check. I know I will and I'm looking forward to it!
That's everyone for your opinions. I am usually one to get the new "it" thing as soon as it comes out, usually the day it comes out (well only phones) But not so much when a new phone comes out, just the next biggest thing. In this case, WinMo7. I've owned 3 Win Mo phones (SDA, Dash and HD2) Android (G1) and iPhone along with all the other basics before the SDA, and I can surely say, I like WinMo the best. I do like to completely customize my phones. I found WinMo to have the best broad range to do this. I'm not one to load my phone with apps, except to customize, which is why I don't mind the almost nothing there marketplace for WinMo.
I will probably be one of the ones jumping on the bandwagon and getting the HD7 on Monday as well. I do like their return policy, but don't like their $10-$20 restocking fee that you have if you return it. I'm sure I will end up liking the HD7. For the most part I have a love/hate relationship with my HD2. I think what I hate is WinMo6.5 because after customizing it was perfect for me. I'm sure over time the developers here will come up with ways to customize the HD7. I think I can wait. Plus, I would get the "new phone" feeling with HD7, vs getting an android which seems to never change it's basics.
Also, how is everyone getting their phones?
I'm thinking about getting it at WalMart since their price is $150 with a new 2 yr contract, (have to verify if an upgrade counts)
T-Mobile's is $250 with a 2 yr contract with a $50 mail in rebate (which I always seem to forget to mail out on time!)
Do Not Buy A W7 phone
I have had an HTC HD 2 phone from when they came out and a week ago bought an HTC HD7 WHAT A MISTAKE I have put it in the bin. Any one that says it is better than (shudder to think an iphone) is not in the real world,
No File transfer using Pc You have to use Skydrive long winded.
very basic functions and its display looks s***t
Best advice is go into a phone shop and have a play but be aware that what you see is all you get!.
I am 52 years old and have been involved and used computers from being about 25, and have found windows has always been the best platform and have hated Apple for there lack of user input it has always been thats what you get like it or lump it, but I will certanly be buying an apple or android in the next 2 weeks.
So microsoft stuff it!
J9HOB said:
I have had an HTC HD 2 phone from when they came out and a week ago bought an HTC HD7 WHAT A MISTAKE I have put it in the bin. Any one that says it is better than (shudder to think an iphone) is not in the real world,
No File transfer using Pc You have to use Skydrive long winded.
very basic functions and its display looks s***t
Best advice is go into a phone shop and have a play but be aware that what you see is all you get!.
I am 52 years old and have been involved and used computers from being about 25, and have found windows has always been the best platform and have hated Apple for there lack of user input it has always been thats what you get like it or lump it, but I will certanly be buying an apple or android in the next 2 weeks.
So microsoft stuff it!
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Are you saying you don't like it?
J9HOB said:
I have had an HTC HD 2 phone from when they came out and a week ago bought an HTC HD7 WHAT A MISTAKE I have put it in the bin. Any one that says it is better than (shudder to think an iphone) is not in the real world,
No File transfer using Pc You have to use Skydrive long winded.
very basic functions and its display looks s***t
Best advice is go into a phone shop and have a play but be aware that what you see is all you get!.
I am 52 years old and have been involved and used computers from being about 25, and have found windows has always been the best platform and have hated Apple for there lack of user input it has always been thats what you get like it or lump it, but I will certanly be buying an apple or android in the next 2 weeks.
So microsoft stuff it!
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You write and complain like a child. So I am going out on limb and say that you are not 52 years old and you haven't handled one yet. Since the screen resolution is exactly the same as HD2 and from what I have read it has the S-LCD so its even better. You are the first that I have seen to complain about the screen especially since you are an HD2 user. I guess you have the special HD2 screen no one else has.
I also doubt if you have been in and around computer for 25 years. Your complaint about Apple leads me to believe you are not being honest. Are you complaining about your HD2? You fail to mention that. You don't like Apple and believe that MS is the best platform yet you are moving away from WM6.5 and WP7 and getting an IPHONE or ANDROID?
So in conclusion you tried out an HD7(alleged) and thought the SAME EXACT SCREEN AS YOUR HD2 was crap? The WP7 OS and the Screen was so horrible that you went into a trance like state fueled by your anger towards MS that you decided to tell MS to stuff the SOLE PLATFORM you have been using for the past 25 years? Then you just tucked it away into a BIN instead of returning the phone because you could no longer stand to touch or have it in your sight.
Ahh that makes SENSE!
Please tell us more...
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You write and complain like a child. So I am going out on limb and say that you are not 52 years old and you haven't handled one yet. Since the screen resolution is exactly the same as HD2 and from what I have read it has the S-LCD so its even better. You are the first that I have seen to complain about the screen especially since you are an HD2 user. I guess you have the special HD2 screen no one else has.
I also doubt if you have been in and around computer for 25 years. Your complaint about Apple leads me to believe you are not being honest. Are you complaining about your HD2? You fail to mention that. You don't like Apple and believe that MS is the best platform yet you are moving away from WM6.5 and WP7 and getting an IPHONE or ANDROID?
So in conclusion you tried out an HD7(alleged) and thought the SAME EXACT SCREEN AS YOUR HD2 was crap? The WP7 OS and the Screen was so horrible that you went into a trance like state fueled by your anger towards MS that you decided to tell MS to stuff the SOLE PLATFORM you have been using for the past 25 years? Then you just tucked it away into a BIN instead of returning the phone because you could no longer stand to touch or have it in your sight.
Ahh that makes SENSE!
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I think you have this guy nailed.
Will the HD7 has complete functionality as it does in other countries...
Like the HTC Weather tabs, the Zune full screen photo backgrounds etc etc...
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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hello,
where did you get your Htc hd7, i live in Bangalore, been to few shops the price is around 28.5k to 30k. is it worth? or shd i wait for few weeks and get htc mozart?
im placing pre order for htc Mozart?
if u know any HTC authorized dealers in Bangalore, pl link me the address.
ty
Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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HI thanks..i didnt get your 'kaccha' (unripe) comment..could u elaborate this for me a bit..i am asking for this cause as it is I am going a little over my budget...so I dont want a phone that is useless..(IM SICK OF WINMO 6.5.X)
taruian said:
hello,
where did you get your Htc hd7, i live in Bangalore, been to few shops the price is around 28.5k to 30k. is it worth? or shd i wait for few weeks and get htc mozart?
im placing pre order for htc Mozart?
if u know any HTC authorized dealers in Bangalore, pl link me the address.
ty
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HI...if u go to the HTC.com/in, see 'where to buy' section...and its not 28 in Mumbai..officialy its 27..i can confirm..waitng for it to dip a little more, around 24-25 and then gonna grab it...im done with Android...
circleofomega said:
HI thanks..i didnt get your 'kaccha' (unripe) comment..could u elaborate this for me a bit..i am asking for this cause as it is I am going a little over my budget...so I dont want a phone that is useless..(IM SICK OF WINMO 6.5.X)
HI...if u go to the HTC.com/in, see 'where to buy' section...and its not 28 in Mumbai..officialy its 27..i can confirm..waitng for it to dip a little more, around 24-25 and then gonna grab it...im done with Android...
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been to few shops today, the price offered for htc hd 7 is 28k at Bangalore, thinking of getting the fone by this sat. i guess the price will dip if omnia 7 & htc 7 Mozart is available at the stores, may be it will take around 2 months. kinda long waiting time
so im still waiting to get ma hands on hd 7
taruian said:
been to few shops today, the price offered for htc hd 7 is 28k at Bangalore, thinking of getting the fone by this sat. i guess the price will dip if omnia 7 & htc 7 Mozart is available at the stores, may be it will take around 2 months. kinda long waiting time
so im still waiting to get ma hands on hd 7
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U thnk just like me brother..im also gonna wait for a couple of months...see if things turn in my favour...otherwise..
circleofomega said:
U thnk just like me brother..im also gonna wait for a couple of months...see if things turn in my favour...otherwise..
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flipkart have started pre-booking of the handset, estimated release will be 11 Jan. more info on the below link.
the price offered by flipkart is Rs. 25499
http://www.flipkart.com/htc-mozart-m...bctf99bdnmg2fz
will wait for few more days, the price of hd7 might drop down to 26-27k.
still the price of hd7 at Bangalore is 28k.
how bout the sound quality of hd7 in compared with Mozart? :s
Mozart available at univercell for price of Rs.25,192 + 5% VAT. link below
http://www.univercell.in/mobiles/displayMobileDetails.action?productId=28432
goin to get this fone by this week.
taruian said:
flipkart have started pre-booking of the handset, estimated release will be 11 Jan. more info on the below link.
the price offered by flipkart is Rs. 25499
http://www.flipkart.com/htc-mozart-m...bctf99bdnmg2fz
will wait for few more days, the price of hd7 might drop down to 26-27k.
still the price of hd7 at Bangalore is 28k.
how bout the sound quality of hd7 in compared with Mozart? :s
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Again..just the same question in my head...Will Mozart be better when it comes to sound?
I actually don't even mind Mozart>>
taruian said:
Mozart available at univercell for price of Rs.25,192 + 5% VAT. link below
http://www.univercell.in/mobiles/displayMobileDetails.action?productId=28432
goin to get this fone by this week.
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Superb man!!! all the best and lemme know ur experience!!
I would recommand you wait it out.
If you are ready to Shell out 25-26k
You rather Get the Galaxy S or Nexus S comes to around Rs. 27,500
better functionality .better features.
If you are only interested in Screen size then go for the HD7.
Nothing is really good as far as Im concerned.
So please do your research before purchase.
(Im currently regretting it)
Honestly, i dont see any point in waiting its not like the hardware is going to get better. Microsoft is releasing an update to Windows phone 7 at the end of the month that makes the phone even faster, preserves battery life and adds copy and paste among others.
Theyve done a really good job for a 1.0 OS release, however it is clear that there are several small features missing(like msg forwarding). If this isnt going to hinder you too much i would urge you to go with the hd7
Dont be swayed by the emergence of dual core phones, there are no dual core ready apps yet, and that will take time.
As for the HD7, it has the biggest screen out there, and it is really really fast. I love the responsive UI and the front panel which actually looks quite subtle and modest(as opposed to the flashy samsung omnia which looks gaudy).
Sorry for the delayed reply.
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I would recommand you wait it out.
If you are ready to Shell out 25-26k
You rather Get the Galaxy S or Nexus S comes to around Rs. 27,500
better functionality .better features.
If you are only interested in Screen size then go for the HD7.
Nothing is really good as far as Im concerned.
So please do your research before purchase.
(Im currently regretting it)
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I agree with you on the screen size bit. And NExus S and all I think is out. For some very strange reason, I am done with Android..Don't like it at all after seeing WP7...don't ask y
Razultull said:
Honestly, i don't see any point in waiting its not like the hardware is going to get better. Microsoft is releasing an update to Windows phone 7 at the end of the month that makes the phone even faster, preserves battery life and adds copy and paste among others.
Theyve done a really good job for a 1.0 OS release, however it is clear that there are several small features missing(like msg forwarding). If this isnt going to hinder you too much i would urge you to go with the hd7
Dont be swayed by the emergence of dual core phones, there are no dual core ready apps yet, and that will take time.
As for the HD7, it has the biggest screen out there, and it is really really fast. I love the responsive UI and the front panel which actually looks quite subtle and modest(as opposed to the flashy samsung omnia which looks gaudy).
Sorry for the delayed reply.
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Hey thanx for ur reply...But I have a little disconnect with your opinion of Omnia. I honestly think that the colours on Omnia 7 are bright and colourful and HD7 lacks that.
Look at this pic:
http://gallery.me.com/o.khademi/100025/HD7 v O7/web.jpg?ver=12896154820001
The fuschia pink looks like fuschia pink on the Omnia. But on the HD7 it looks like baby pink.
And this is the case with all the reviews I have seen on YouTube and elsewhere.
So I think I have changed my mind and am mostly going to but Omnia 7 (WHEN it hits India that is).
But thanx anyways.
Razultull said:
Yes, i own the HD7, have been for a few days now. Everything seems to work like in any other country. The UI is fantastic even though it seems a bit Kaccha(unripe). Of course its 7.0 so
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I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.
Asheesh said:
I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
Just my 2 bit along with some facts.
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hey dude...I got my HD7 and believe me, everything works like a charm.
Here is one thing you have to keep in mind: MAKE Sure all all the accounts have the country as 'US (United States)' May it be your phone's country, your Live account's country, your computer's country...
Try resetting your phone (u might lose data) and when on the next startup it asks (it asked me and I was clever to click US) just click on United States...everything else will follow...
Cheers! Hope I was helpful...PM me if you have any questions...
Asheesh said:
I'm sorry but nothing works in India. Whenever I try to use/download an app through zune or through marketplace on the handphone....I get the message that this feature is not available in your country.
Zune suggested making another live account in the US & asked me to change my region/location on my PC....even that did not work. Dunno why did they launch this phone in India.
I simply hate what they have done with WMP7 in the process of trying to mimic iPhone. Even iPhone users have access/connectivity to outlook & this does not have it. I was a hardcore user of windows phone for the last maybe 15 odd years, but not after this. Cannot sync with outlook, cannot copy excel files, cannot browse the phone for files directly, cannot customize stuff etc. etc. Better to go with iPhone or any other phone than with WMP7.
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HTC has actually launched these phones in India before Microsoft has launched WP7 here, hence the problems.
If you have everything set to U.S. accounts, it works perfectly. I've had my TMoUS HD7 (which I picked up back home in NY) on Vodafone in Mumbai since November.
guys,
got one in dec for 15K on Craigslist from the US.. T-mobile.. since it is us, i can even use all market apps here.. couldnt be happier...
I have got a T-Mobile branded HD7 and wanted to know if any of you guys have tried 3G on HD7 (T-Mobile)?
HD7
Hows the overall build quality ?
Hows the Music and VIdeo quality also ?
ANd hows the Battery life also ?
devjadeja said:
Hows the overall build quality ?
Hows the Music and VIdeo quality also ?
ANd hows the Battery life also ?
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Build quality's pretty solid. Just a slight notch below the HD2, but still almost on par with the best in the industry.
Audio's pretty good (download HTC's Sound Enhancer app and you can enable SRS Enhancement- makes a big difference) and video's great (as you'd expect on such a large screen). The screen's not quite as eye-popping as the AMOLED or Super LCD panels in some other WP7/Android phones, but I still prefer having the larger screen size.
Battery life is about average for a big smartphone. I typically charge it at night, so as long as it lasts for a full day of moderate to heavy use (which it does), it's fine for me. If I forget to charge, it'll last through most of a second day (of light use).