Does anyone know if the TYTN II works on the new T Mobile 3g network in New York City? Woule likr to hear from someone who is actually using this 3g network.
Does anyone know if the TYTN II works on the new T Mobile 3g network in New York City? Would like to hear from someone who is actually using this 3g network.
it wont work for 3g. att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network.
the tilt will only work in 2G.... EDGE and regular GPRS
My phone is not the Tilt it is an HTC branded TYTN II unlocked phone from HTC Hong Kong that I have on T Mobile
useradmn said:
it wont work for 3g. att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network.
the tilt will only work in 2G.... EDGE and regular GPRS
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what do you mean the tilt will only pick up 2G..att's tilt is a 3g phone..i have one, but i am on t-mobiles service..i had to unlock the phone to do this first...and i can switch back and forth between 3G and tmobiles edge with the diamond commmanger app....ii just cant use att's 3g because i have a tmobile sim in my phone
Doesn't work.. I'm using TyTN II for NYC T-Mobile.. no 3G
It doesn't work because it uses different FREQUENCIES.
Look at it this way:
You want to call your friend, he has an htc touch. Let's call him, Lenny.
Then you change your mind, and you want to call your other friend, who also has an htc touch. Her name is Michelle.
If you dial Lenny's phone number, you won't get Michelle just because she has the same phone.
ATT 3g and T-mobile 3g are the same TYPE of network, but they use different frequencies. Just like Lenny and Michelle have the same phone, but different phone numbers.
Make sense now?
The TYTN II and it's Variants were not designed to operate on the frequency that T-mobile 3g operates on.
useradmn said:
it wont work for 3g. att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network.
the tilt will only work in 2G.... EDGE and regular GPRS
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lets break this down a bit better for him so that he may undertand your post.
"it wont work for 3g. "(That is a period for a very short sentence, and he meams )
It won't work on tmobile 3g.
"att and t-mobile are on separate frequencies that the tilt wont pickup for tmobile's 3g network."
This one is more straight forward now that you have a better version of the first sentence.
It should go something like this
It won't work on the Tmobile 3g because att and and tmobiles frequencies for 3g are totally different from each other and the tilt doesn't support the tmobile one (as you know it supports the att one), BUT it does support edge and gprs..
Can the radio in the TYTN be changed to the new T Mobile frequency.whats there now is 1900/2100 and needs to be 1700/2100.
leon sprouse said:
Can the radio in the TYTN be changed to the new T Mobile frequency.whats there now is 1900/2100 and needs to be 1700/2100.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390575
I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
Macmee said:
I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
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From what I can tell, the telus/bell hspa network is 850/1900 and ONLY supports 3G, i.e., there is NO EDGE FALLBACK. This means that you *MUST* get a device that supports hspa 850/1900, which means you need a ROGERS HTC DREAM. An ADP1 or tmobile-branded DREAM will NOT work on telus/bell.
Note: Do NOT hold me to this info, do your own research to verify that these statements are accurate.
As for getting a data connection, that is simply a matter of plugging in the correct APN info that matches your network. But quite frankly, at $40 for 500MB, I would stick with WiFi for data.
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
Macmee said:
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
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Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
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Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
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Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
Macmee said:
Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
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Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
AverageCanadian said:
Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
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Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
Macmee said:
Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
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The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
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The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
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So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
Macmee said:
So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
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I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
AverageCanadian said:
I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
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I have no idea how to get in touch with retentions, or what I could say to them. I just know I would burn through 500mb of data in several days
Thanks for this information though, certainly worth looking into.
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
stanelie said:
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
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In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
lbcoder said:
In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
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Good that's what I have
is all I have to do put my sim card in, or do I have to like, configure the device to use Bells dial 777 for data thing?
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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Read my lips... ***ROGERS*** dream.
Macmee said:
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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lol like lbcoder says, rogers has their own frequency phone (with the proper crystal to work on rogers network). and that link is for the htc hero, its a whole 'nother phone
Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
Okay thanks guys. I tried the apn info on my Vogue which is on android, and they worked, so I can only assume theey will work. On the dream
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Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
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I can confirm the Rogers Dream works with Telus also. It always shows as Roaming but still works fine, just have to enable data connection when roaming.
Telus' APN settings are:
TELUS SP:
APN = sp.telus.com
Proxy = 74.49.0.18
Port 80
Username = <not set>
Password = <not set>
Server = <not set>
MMSC = http://aliasredirect.net/proxy/mmsc
MMS proxy = 74.49.0.18
MMS Port = 80
MMS Protocol = WAP 2.0
MCC = 302
MNC = 220
APN type = default,mms
Also, anyone plannning to run CyanogenMod on their Dream or Magic should consider this tutorial for installation, it allows you to keep the 3.22.20.17 radio image that is stock on the Rogers phones and improves the data connection. There is also this bit of info that enables full UMTS support when running CyanogenMod.
[Q] Unbranded unlocked Milestone cannot connect to data service on AT&T or T-Mobile
I bought a M1 off Amazon about 5 months ago. I don't have a data plan in my home country as my SIM is company provided without data. I get by with wifi most of the time. Over Christmas while in Miami, I tried my nephew's T-Mobile SIM from his HTC and I tried an AT&T SIM with $5 data - and neither would connect to EDGE or 3G. The phone could still make calls though. Anyone have any idea why that would be? I have no clue as to what region the phone would belong to -so I do not know what GSM frequencies it operates on. Motorola's website specs says that the GSM version operates on 850/900/1800/1900 MHz - and supposedly AT&T 3G operates on 850 7 1900 MHz -so I can't figure it out. Could it be something software/firmware related?
It's a APN issue if you can make calls but cannot connect to mobile data. Check your provider's APN configuration. (Just google it.)
yeah. check your apn. for stock rom and some other mods apns cant be configured automaticly
I picked up a used Samsung Galaxy S i9000 that was on Virgin (CDMA?). I rooted it, and put JB on it. From another device, I have a Telus data plan that is on 4G. Looking at the i9000 specs, it says it supports GSM and 3G. This where I get confused. The Telus plan I am on is 4G LTE (data). Does this mean that this Sim could fall back to 3G if I use it in my Samsung? I have ran a number of unlock tools (including the Samsung Galaxy S Unlocker) and think that my phone is unlocked, but the radio shows that there is no connection. When I ran the unlocker, it completes but does not say "its done". I can see that I now have the correct APN setting for Telus. The phone sees my SIM and my phone #. And I have the nv_data.bin file ( was not there before running the unlocker). When I look at the phone details, it sees my SIM, knows my phone number etc. It just won't connect. It also has the correct APN settings. If I try to dial a number or use the data, it does not work. Wondering if there are other settings I am missing?
I think the issue is that the sim only runs on Telus 4G and does not fall back to 3G (what the phone is capable of), but again, this is where I am green. I don't know how this works. Does the phone 'ask' the Sim to fall back, or does the network and Sim dictate to the phone what network it will use?
Area of coverage: Burlington Ontario (GTA). Sorry if this has been discussed, but my search terms did not find anything.
HI, GUYS,
so I just got this unlocked HTC ONE from HTC shop
and I am currently using T-mobile, but I have issues with 3g
i used to have HTC desire z and 3g works fine,
and I went to shop, change my sim card to micro sim card so that i can use it in HTC ONE
BUT, everything works perfect excepted 3g
mobile network only can find T-mobile 2g network and at&t 2g/3g/4g network when i search the network operators
and i am not going to do roaming.
I tried to change VPN but it doesn't work
I also tried tweakker, but for some reason, it kept saying my wifi didn't connect to internet but it did connect to internet..
so could somebody help me
i didn't root my phone yet, and the rom is official rom
Software number 1.29.1540.16
thanks
You're not going to like this answer, but the unlocked HTC one lacks the 1700 band needed for T-Mobile 3G. The good news is T-Mobile is in the process of reforming their network so your phone should get 3G by quarter 3 2013. Until then you could try an AT&T mvno or return it and buy one from T-Mobile that has the required bands.
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