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BlueAngel Total Failure - Request for advice.

Hello,
I believe I have a real 'tough' scenario:
My BA (WM2003) was running normally till yesterday where it simply 'froze'. I tried restarting it, (soft and hard) and it kept stalling on the (IMate) splash screen and didn't proceed to WM. I left it to battery drain completely.
I came to work this morning, and literally tried everything:
Standard Upgrade using the Imate original exe (PDA2k_WWE_14000_176_11200). doesn't recognize the phone anymore.
Tried the MaUpgradeUT_noID with the nbf files (radio, ms and nk). In all cases the upgrade starts and gets interrupted in the middle with a 'weird' error and the BA display fades as the signal led goes RED (constant, no blink). I have to take the battery out, back in.
Tried the mtty set 14 0 / task 28 sequence with no result. (The info commands return a garbled sequence which makes me assume that my bootloader got corrupted).
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
W.

wzaatar
Read in another post that you got no reply on this one.
Well it seems like nobody can come up with anything that would make more sense than what you have done.
My wording is when everyting else falis go back to the original rom and start from fresh.
If you can't flash an original rom in the ship.exe or the extract form you need to send it in.
Does your device react to hard reset ?? at least you should get a boot screen.

Have you tried Bootloader mode?
I know that this is a really stupid idea.. but have you tried putting it in bootloader mode, and then trying to upgrade? Or maybe throw a WM5 rom on there, and downgrade again! Worth a try until you send it in!

Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate the help.
I figured out that I had two distinctive problems:
1. The constant red led light, after a lot of research, it turned out that the battery was defective. Changing it solved the problem.
2. Now, I am able to flash the ROM (Tried it a couple times so far) with the orginal or another one. It flashes correctly, but only if I use the NoID flash program, else it will return a MODEL ID error. And when I reboot it, it stays stuch on the 'Imate' or the bootscreen and I don't get the WM to load (As if it freezes)...
3. I don't think I can upgrade to WM5 as I need to shrink the EXTROM size? Can this be done through some 'task' or other command in mtty for example?
Thanks for your suggestions.
Cheers,
Wadih.

upgrade fails

Hello,
I`m trying to get latest lvsw wm6 to the device.
I own the phone since today.
I made the following steps:
Execute ROMUpdateUltility (Hard-SPL)
->Next->Next->Update
From: Image Version 1.16.407.2
to: Image Version 1.20
->Next -> Next
On the phone:
Enterbotloader.exe
"blabla"
YES
On the computer:
ERROR[246]: Device not responding
On the phone:
IPL-SSPL by Des
SPL-1.07.ds
ok,
trying to run ROMUPdateUltility again...
next next next... he shows me the progress bar --> finished! YES!
Rebooting the phone --> same software version as before the update?
trying to update for 2 hours... just to use gps as advertised

please help, i tried the official Update from HTC -> successfull but effects! programs, contacts etc still there, same version number!

messiah said:
please help, i tried the official Update from HTC -> successfull but effects! programs, contacts etc still there, same version number!
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I've the same problem [246] upgrading unofficial roms like
GSM_1.41.00.11
and
ROM_ING_WM6_2.27
The only upgrade I make successfully is original
htcp3600-RUU_Trinity_HTC_ITA_1-23-408-2_103_6275_1-38-00-11_108
what's wrong ?
P.S.
I test it using activeSync 4.2 & 4.5

Messiah..... Have you read the very first post in the LVSW ROM thread?
I am NOT having ago, just checking, seems you may have miss-understood.
Grab ALL 3 downloads listed there.
Apply first one, and yes there IS NO real visible change to the phone apart from it has been hard SPL'd
Now apply Second one, will go through the same process BUT the Radio ROM is changed and updated
Now Apply the Third and WM6 is installed
The failure you describe is the computer dropping Activ Sync and then "seeing" the phone in Bootloader mode, which is why it take 2 bites of the first cherry, after that all "should " be ok.
I managed to get mine on the first attempt so it is "Me Proof"[TM] and "Just Works" (c)..... however report back if this hasnt helped

yeah, the process you described tells me that you've loaded hard-spl on your phone.. that's all. No WM6 yet...

I have the same problem.
I have Hard-SPL'ed my Orange M700
Then reboot and reestablish Active Sync
Then I have updated the Radio Rom
Then reboot and reestablish Active Sync
and now it's 1.41.00.11 in settings/system/device information
but when i apply
20070527_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1 it uploads then i power on my device and it's still WM5 ?
What am I doing wrong??
Any help appreciated.

This may be a stupid question but have you SuperCID your device before running the updates?
If you go:
Start -> Settings
System
Device Information
What does it say under Radio version? (Just checks the second step has been completed successfully).
Also when you enter the bootloader what does it say on the screen?

akirainblack said:
This may be a stupid question but have you SuperCID your device before running the updates?
If you go:
Start -> Settings
System
Device Information
What does it say under Radio version? (Just checks the second step has been completed successfully).
Also when you enter the bootloader what does it say on the screen?
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I thought you didn't need to SuperCID the device (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1245390&postcount=70)
My radio Rom shows 1.41.00.11

TBH I don't know. But it can't hurt to try it, I SuperCID mine and it flashes perfectly each and every time.
I'm merely trying to make suggestions that may get a result.
Oh, you didn't tell me what the bootscreen said and what version of Activesync do you have on your PC?

While doing the SuperCID upgrade i was wondering: After flashing any of the ROMs do I reboot or power On manually or wait for the device to reboot itself as the message in the SupoerCID tool suggests:
If radio upgrade went fine, wait until your phone reboots and make sure
ActiveSync is enabled again (you should see green icon in system tray)
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Stupid Q: How can i make the boot screen stay long enough so i can write it down?
My ActiveSync is 4.5 on WinXP

Rummage around in Start--> Setting --> device ID, and version and stuff...... they are there and you get the same info as on the boot screen... and it stay on longer ;-)
Sorry if a little vague but away from phone at the moment......... erkkkkkkkk
/me runs off to find it so this may get edited

akirainblack said:
TBH I don't know. But it can't hurt to try it, I SuperCID mine and it flashes perfectly each and every time.
I'm merely trying to make suggestions that may get a result.
Oh, you didn't tell me what the bootscreen said and what version of Activesync do you have on your PC?
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I didnt Super CID just followed the instructions in LVSW 's first thread, applied each DL in order and "it just works" (c)

Thanks. That's where i got the infroramtion from b4. I just thought it might be different in the boot screen.
I now did the SuperCID unlocking and did the 3 upgrades again. after the 3rd upgrade i still have:
- WM5.1.342 Build 15096.3.0.0
- ROM 1.23.61.5
- Radio 1.41.00.11
Q again: Do I need to wait after the flashing or do i immidiately press power
(that's what i do when it says finish) or do i soft reset? Or what else?
Thanks for your help.

Hmmmmm just got me phone....... dont ask
Right CE OS 5.2.1413 build 17745.0.2.3
ROM 2.0.1.1
Radio 1.41.00.11
Sooooo.......
a) are you using LVSW (just to be sure)
b) have you grabbed the latest version posted on page 1 of the upgrading thread?
c) I let it restart it self after it finished flashing, it then reclibrates the screen etc etc
Also looks like you havent upgraded anything just yet ... follow the instructions to the letter and it "should" be fine

a) yes
b) yes
c) there might be the problem i waited 2 mins ans as it wasn't rebooting i just used the power button. How long should i wait aftr the WM6 install?

I soft reset mine directly after the screen goes black. So that should be fine.

Maybe it has to do with my boot loader:
When i go to bootloader i see:
IPL-0.50
SPL-1.07.0000
then it starts fading quickly. is this normal? I have the same fading effect when i install ste 2 the radio ROM. but i still have the new radio rom on as it displays as 1.41.00.11
I again tried to use the 2.0.1.1 it uploads very quickly (maybe 2min) and then it's still the "orange" screen and WM5 on reboot and i still have all my data.
What a I doing wrong?

No. Mine stays there right up until the upload to the phone starts.
Then I get a grey background with a blue progress bar.
What happens if you run Enterbootloader on the phone. Then connect it to the PC.
Then run the install program on the PC.
The first process didn't work.
You should have:
TRIN100
IPL-SSPL by Des
TRIN100
SPL-1.07.ds

Hmmmmm if all else fails try a hard reset on your phone and see what versions of what you have after that.
Did you use ANY form of unlocking prior to using LVSW rom?
/me suspects this might be casuing issues
The radio rom zoooooomed up to my phone and likewise the WM6
I cannt remember reseting the phone after flashing.... IIRC it just worked as in it finished then re-started and way hey off it went.
Also FWIW I just used the DL's in the thread without bothering with anyother boot loaders etc... ie extract flies in first DL into 1 folders, run them, ditto DL's 2 and 3.

BLANK SCREEN AFTER ATnT Screen and 3G screen..HELP

So i just attempted to flash my tilt.
These are the steps i did.
Used Jump SPL 1.56 Kais
Then flashed a Kaiser Custom RUU.exe
everything was good at this point.
I then attempted the Kaiser SUperCID tool
when i did the unlock radio is when the problem occurred. After initializing and completing the screen turned black and does not display anything after the 3g sreen. I have done several soft resets and am attempting to do a hard reset with the soft keys but all it does is restart the phone....
i am not able to do a hard reset via sys>clear storage since no screen is displayed
this is what my phone does show
the tri color screen is this
kais1*0
spl-3.28.Hard
cpld-8
and it says security unlocked above all of that.
The ATnT screen shows this
R 1.70.Olinex
G 25.65.30.04h
D 1.62.00.00
please help

You need to follow step 0. Too late know. Which includes having an actual "RADIO" ready.
1.70OliNex is not a Radio. Thusly the Device can't load the Phone. Find a Radio and Flash it
Oh And Count this as your Freebie. Next time Search for your answer. And if you don't find the answer this should have been posted in the SuperCID thread.

Thank you kind sir. Off to look for a radio

Ghxoxst said:
Thank you kind sir. Off to look for a radio
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Before you go off.
Here's something to try. The SIM/CID Unlocker do not work with the stock rom and you should have put hardspl on there.
Setup activesync and make sure that it detects your phone. As long as activesync works, you should be able to flash the stock rom and radio on the phone (even if the display is blank).
1st use jumpspl
then put on hardspl (read and follow the hardspl instructions)
then upgrade to 6.1 ROM
Then Unlock
then reflash with the rom of your choice with the matching radio
you should be good to go.

well i finally figured out the hard reset, which i did. It booted up and i was able to do the screen alignment etc, but once i was on my actual home screen it CUSTOMIZED and loaded a bunch of who knows what and back to the blank screen...
well i do have hard spl 3.28. I will try again....Im also not sure if my phone is 6.0 or 6.1

Ghxoxst said:
well i finally figured out the hard reset, which i did. It booted up and i was able to do the screen alignment etc, but once i was on my actual home screen it CUSTOMIZED and loaded a bunch of who knows what and back to the blank screen...
well i do have hard spl 3.28. I will try again....Im also not sure if my phone is 6.0 or 6.1
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If you have hardspl on there, then just flash one of the cooked roms on the phone. I loaded the L26 Rom and it works great. It will include a radio firmware and is compatible with the SIM/CID unlocker.

the question i have is how do you flash without being able to execute the program from the phone? How am i able to execute it from the active sync?

Ghxoxst said:
the question i have is how do you flash without being able to execute the program from the phone? How am i able to execute it from the active sync?
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Have you connected it to the computer via usb? Does activesync see the phone? You won't see anything on the phone itself until you correct the problem. As long as the computer activesync sees the phone you should be able to flash it from the computer.

I had the same issue
Just follow the steps
get the SIM unlock code from the computer
then flash a "real radio"
Once it finishes and boots up
it will ask you for the sim unlock code
AND VIOLA!!!

got it going
flashed it from my mini sd card after fat32 formatting it.
works like a charm
Thanks to everyone

I Think I just Bricked my AT&T Tilt

Uhh......yea......I was trying to upgrade my Rom to Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588. I was using the instructions from Flash-Your-Tilt . I got to Step 4 CID-Unlock it installed 100% rebooted and then nothing. Now the phone will only play the intro with no sound, then go black. It shows in the lower right hand R 1.70.02iNex, G25.65.30, D1.62.00.00. The phone will allow me to do a hard reset but after it it goes through the intro with screen alignment and installs the extra apps, it reboots and then goes black. I did a ton of reading through the wiki's if someone could point me in the right direction or tell me if its toast, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks

Be strong. I think it's only bricked when you can't power it on.
I have a poor net connection and not time atm. So a suggestion if you haven't already, search the forum for the word bricked. I'm sure this has happened before..
There are several tricks that people know so you might be ok. good luck.

Calihoe said:
Uhh......yea......I was trying to upgrade my Rom to Dutty's Diamond V1 Build 19588. I was using the instructions from Flash-Your-Tilt . I got to Step 4 CID-Unlock it installed 100% rebooted and then nothing. Now the phone will only play the intro with no sound, then go black. It shows in the lower right hand R 1.70.02iNex, G25.65.30, D1.62.00.00. The phone will allow me to do a hard reset but after it it goes through the intro with screen alignment and installs the extra apps, it reboots and then goes black. I did a ton of reading through the wiki's if someone could point me in the right direction or tell me if its toast, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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Flash an OEM Rom/Radio Combo. Also it wont hurt if you already CID unlocked to to go ahead and flash a new SPL to it. Should fix any and all issues as your phone is still actually booting and Not bricked

Installing windows the 6.1 ROM from HTC's site worked. Thank you very much for the great advice. If I wanted to now put Dutty's ROM on my phone can I go straight to that, or do I need to restart the whole ROM flashing process(installing Jump SPL, Hard SPL and CID) ?

If you have unlocked it, just put duttys onto the SD card and rename the .nbh to KAISIMG.nbh
Put the phone into bootloader and install Its the fastest most successful method. No worry about a data cable coming out mid flash ( happened once to me....not fun )
Shouldnt have to install hardspl again ( or use JumpSPL )
Just make sure that if you are installing a WM6.0 rom that you have a WM6.0 radio. If not, the flashing process for the radio is the same ( rename to KAISIMG.nbh )

Is there a way to see if I the hard SPL install and CID unlock worked ? Can I just restart the whole process regardless. Sorry for the noob questions.

Calihoe said:
Is there a way to see if I the hard SPL install and CID unlock worked ? Can I just restart the whole process regardless. Sorry for the noob questions.
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Go into bootloader. If your screen says hardspl somewhere near the top then you're good to go. Check which version because you can have radio problems if you use a WM6.0 spl with a WM6.1 rom. Most recent roms are WM6.1 so try HardSPL 3.29 or higher.
If you don't have hardspl, get it here for wm6.0 roms or here for wm6.1 roms.

many thanks, your advice with the links were invaluable. I read and read and read, but i guess i did not read enough. This site rocks.

Stuck in bootloader loading screen.

Im about to flash my ROM from original 1.56 to Duttys new, but when i enter bootloader the white loadingscreen gets stuck in my face. Nothing happens and i need to remove the battery to shut down device. Anyone? Freakin frustratin´.

Before I flashed my first rom, I read wiki.xda-developers.com to make sure I understood what I was doing, and used the search button, instead of risking turning my phone into a paper weight.
Since then, Crackwhore has written a very helpful post at the top of this forum about how to use HSPL and USPL to allow you to flash roms.

yeah i know all that. not my first time flashing a phone but the first time it got stuck loading the bootloader. and specially when i´ve only used the HTC update.

darfor said:
Im about to flash my ROM from original 1.56 to Duttys new, but when i enter bootloader the white loadingscreen gets stuck in my face. Nothing happens and i need to remove the battery to shut down device. Anyone? Freakin frustratin´.
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you mean you couldn't get to boot loader page?

So you already have HSPL 1.56 installed (or have SPL1.54 and used USPL)?
If you have HSPL you could try renaming the .nbh file to blacimg.nbh and copying it to the SD card and entering bootloader

Same problem here. Stuck in bootloader mode. Loading progress indicator never moves beyond 0%. Have always used the card method (blacimg.nbh), but this time it doesn't work and nothing flashes. No matter what I do the system goes to tricolour bootloader screen and says ROM update error. Have tried 3 microSD cards, all in working order, so this isn't the problem. The full problem description is here. Help!

AFW said:
Same problem here. Stuck in bootloader mode. Loading progress indicator never moves beyond 0%. Have always used the card method (blacimg.nbh), but this time it doesn't work and nothing flashes. No matter what I do the system goes to tricolour bootloader screen and says ROM update error. Have tried 3 microSD cards, all in working order, so this isn't the problem. The full problem description is here. Help!
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try dnloading the rom again amd try.
the file might be corrupt

Have tried that many times. File is not corrupt. I'm getting really worried this is now a brick...

OK, if you can get phone into bootloader, it is not bricked
What does your SPL say in bootloader? Do you get any errors when trying to flash rom? Are you using USPL or HSPL? If USPL, you have to use it before every flash to new rom or radio. If HSPL, are you using correct version?

Was on Dutty's 3.9 XT, but decided to revert to standard WWE 1.56. I flashed the Std 1.56 ROM successfuly, and then tried to restore the ship SPL 1.54 using the card flash method. This failed, and now I'm stuck on the bootlader screen forever.
No matter what I do the THD always goes to bootloader (red-green-blue-white screen), with following text:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.54.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (LED) v6
Upgrade ROM code error
Please try again
USB
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When I start blac_uspl.exe (USPL 2.5), a window flashes (Vista64) for a split second and then nothing else happens. The Vista64 system's USBs work with THD and have been used to sync over past few months.
When I try to run HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.exe and step through the preliminary screens, the Verify that you want to update ROM version screen has the From Image Version as blank and the To Image Version as 1.56.Olinex. When I click to commit the flash the THD screen switches to white with a progress indicator that always stays at 0% until it times out. Recovery does nothing and the same thing always happens. Using Vista64. .Net installed and fine. I can't use the card method (BLACIMG.NBH) - the system also stays on "Loading .... 0%" and nothing else happens.
When I try to flash anything (have tried HSPL1.56, Dutty's 3.9 ROM, stock 1.54 spl) using the card method, the system says "Loading . . ." and hangs there forever without a progress indicator showing.

Your SPL says 1.54.0000. When you try and run USPL.exe have you remembered to disable your antivirus?
Have you tried usb method instead of card for flashing rom?
I know you have said that youi have used usb for syncing, but when in bootloader does it change from 'serial' to 'usb' when you connect HD to PC?

Fallen Spartan - I want to thank you for taking the time to help me resolve this problem. Very much appreciated!
1. Yes, anti-virus disabled and indeed removed from the PC.
2. Yes, have tried the USB method at least 20 times.
3. Yes, the bootloader changes from Serial to USB. It then goes to the progress indicator screen and hangs on 0%. The progress indicator on the RUU on PC also stays at 0% and eventually times out. I've gone through the Recovery routine at least 20 times, with no luck.
When I try to run SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe it says "not a valid Win32 application".

I'm a bit perplexed by this.
You have obviously successfully flashed Duttys V3.9 so drivers are fine, you know how to use USPL, both flashing methods (SD card and usb/pc), disabled anti-virus, phone in bootloader.
Have you tried to reflash 1.56 rom or possibly performing a hard reset before trying to use USPL or HSPL. I doubt this would make a difference though.
Have you tried cRaCKwHoRe's USPL GUI v 2.5 Application?
You don't get any code errors?? I'm struggling to find a solution here.

Yes, this is most vexing. I've flashed innumerable times before and never had an issue. I suspect the SPL is fine, but somehow the actual WM ROM image is corrupted. Will now try to load Std 1.56 ROM image again...

Success! The 3rd attempt at reflashing stock 1.56 ROM worked. I don't know why the system bombed out before. Perhaps one of those inexplicable brain farts..
Anyway, all seems to be fine now. Fallen Spartan, you have my endless gratitude for at least responding. Let me know if you need accommodation at next year's FIFA World Cup in South Africa (though I'm a rugby fan).

AFW said:
Success! The 3rd attempt at reflashing stock 1.56 ROM worked. I don't know why the system bombed out before. Perhaps one of those inexplicable brain farts..
Anyway, all seems to be fine now. Fallen Spartan, you have my endless gratitude for at least responding. Let me know if you need accommodation at next year's FIFA World Cup in South Africa.
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No accomodation required, just glad you got it sorted

Im still stuck. When i installed HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex my screen changed colors but would go back to normal when i would turn the screen off and back on so i didnt see it as a problem. I installed the EnergyROM BLACKSTONE 20090608 Standard an tried to go back stock using RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.14.405.0_Radio_52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship but it gets to 1% then says this update utility cannot be used for you PDA phone. Please check your update utlity.
Then the phone boots up and at the black smart mobility screen in the bottom corner it says
R 1.09.25.14
G 52.49A.25.26U
D 1.14. 21010
the phone boots up with the funny colors again and goes to align screen but it keeps staying there even after i align it.
The bootloader screen says
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.54.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (LED) v6
USB
Am i tryin to install the wrong stock ROM. I purchased the HD from phonesource-usa if that helps also

can anybody help me at all

Adamsville: perhaps you're stuck in bootloader mode because the WM ROM image flashed on your system has become corrupted or disabled, ie the only thing the system can boot into is the bootloader.
Try flashing a new compatible WM ROM image and see if that works.

AdamsvillE said:
Im still stuck. When i installed HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex my screen changed colors but would go back to normal when i would turn the screen off and back on so i didnt see it as a problem. I installed the EnergyROM BLACKSTONE 20090608 Standard an tried to go back stock using RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE_1.14.405.0_Radio_52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship but it gets to 1% then says this update utility cannot be used for you PDA phone. Please check your update utlity.
Then the phone boots up and at the black smart mobility screen in the bottom corner it says
R 1.09.25.14
G 52.49A.25.26U
D 1.14. 21010
the phone boots up with the funny colors again and goes to align screen but it keeps staying there even after i align it.
The bootloader screen says
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.54.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (LED) v6
USB
Am i tryin to install the wrong stock ROM. I purchased the HD from phonesource-usa if that helps also
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a hardreset followed by a 1.54 base rom will solve all ur probs.
or lower spl to 1.14 cos ur stock rom is a 1.14 base as suggested by th name..
cheers