Dimming the brightness even further? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have the brightness set to zero, but I still find the screen too bright especially at night when the lights are off. Even at the lowest setting, the browser will light up the entire room and its very hard on the eyes. Is there a way to lower the brightness even further? Is there a hack available that will do this?

scrappyabs2 said:
I have the brightness set to zero, but I still find the screen too bright especially at night when the lights are off. Even at the lowest setting, the browser will light up the entire room and its very hard on the eyes. Is there a way to lower the brightness even further? Is there a hack available that will do this?
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You can wear sunglasses while looking at your phone at night.

supremeteam256 said:
You can wear sunglasses while looking at your phone at night.
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I wish that were true, but unfortunately I don't own prescription sunglasses.

you could hit the end button so the screen goes off

gridlock32404 said:
you could hit the end button so the screen goes off
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But then you can't see anything, that's almost as mental a suggestion as layering up 3 or 4 mirror screen protectors.

Instead of suggesting **** you could try to answer his question in a real way.
I think there is a way via setprop..
Try this in terminal (after su)
setprop settings.display.brightness 0

Sunsglasses sounds like a good idea.

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Instead of suggesting **** you could try to answer his question in a real way.
I think there is a way via setprop..
Try this in terminal (after su)
setprop settings.display.brightness 0
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Thanks for chiming in with an actual suggestion. I tried changing the setprop setting to 0, but it didn't decrease my brightness any further than what I can achieve in the Settings menu. It's too bad, I wonder if an app could be made to force the phone's brightness to decrease even further.

You know what... I like this suggestion. I am one of the few people that sometimes uses the phone as an alarm clock and have it sitting next to my bed. I work nights but get off work at 5 in the morning. When I get home I sleep. It's nice to wake up and look at my phone without having to reach over and hit a tiny ass button just to check the time but keeping it on means that I have a night light shining while I'm trying to sleep. So I like this idea and would like to see it dimmed by at least another 50%.

Binary100100 said:
You know what... I like this suggestion. I am one of the few people that sometimes uses the phone as an alarm clock and have it sitting next to my bed. I work nights but get off work at 5 in the morning. When I get home I sleep. It's nice to wake up and look at my phone without having to reach over and hit a tiny ass button just to check the time but keeping it on means that I have a night light shining while I'm trying to sleep. So I like this idea and would like to see it dimmed by at least another 50%.
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I agree. I often grab my phone in the middle of the night to view new emails or google search random thoughts. My eyes get scorched though even when the brightness is turned all the way down.

I like the sunglasses idea!
how about putting on a darkened screen protector?

shaolinx said:
I like the sunglasses idea!
how about putting on a darkened screen protector?
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Do you have a link to one?

Me too.
I do alot of surfing in the middle of the night with the wife and baby in the bed and its pretty dam bright even when set to 0.
I run the brightness widget (not sure wich one) and I also use Timerific to auto dim to 0 after like 11m.
Sometimes I will see that the brightness is set to -8. Even though it doesnt seem any dimmer than normal, its jsut an observation.
I think that If we want to go dimmer its gonna take some sort of kernel hack.
I tried setting it with a - value and it didnt work, although none of the other set prop stuff worked either I think the apps i have set are blocking it somehow.
Ill mess around with a fresh rom and see if it will go into negative.
I also noticed that sometimes when its auto setting thebrightness levels it will go below what looks like 0 brightness for about a half second before it sets to 0 so I know its physically possible for the screen to go at least a little dimmer.

i know there was a way of getting it to -13 % by playing around with the settings on the brightness widget and useful switers..

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RunGPS on diamond

Hi all
I have some troubles with rather GPS soft like RunGPS Trainer, that cannot control diamond power mode
when i switch off screen, gps and wifi modules switched off too, so I cannot record tracks in RunGPS.
RunGPS can lock screen, but hardkeys still work and screen work too so charge is over too short
anyone use RunGPS? How I can recording tracks with screen blank off and keys locked?
In Run.GPS I just press lock screen (the little lock at the bottom) and it keeps power on but backlight minimal. Or I just use a Bluetooth GPS which is more accurate anyway.
I know about lock button and write about it
but as i wrote, hardkeys stil work! I cannot lock device normally
Your advice about external GPS is unusable too
-you must have it every time you want to use RunGPS (walking in the park for example)
-you must buy it
may be anyone knew program that can lock device completely but disable turn off? Something Like S2U2 but without poweroff?
Or may be we can disable automatic gps off? Wifi disables too by default, but I can tweak it
Go into Settings - Configuration - general settings - When application is locked - lock keys also, use center key for start/stop
Hey, guys
maybe you try to read all I wrote? in diamond this setting is not working! It is not lock even power button
and screen stil work!!! this is not solution! I wrote about it in my first post
Hi,
Works fine on my MDA Compact. Did you check the site for the manual configuration of the GPS. I had to set this to get it to read altitude.
Regards
I use this program about 3 years and I know all it settings
Works fine on MDA Compact? Great, but this is Diamond topic!
AFAIK there is no GPS on MDA Compact (this is Qtek s100, correct?), so there is no problem with built in GPS, you can just turn off device!
And I repeat - lock device button didn't turn off screen
this is stupid solution. Battery lifetime in diamond is small and with powered on screen it is minimal
A simple solution would be just to keep it differently, like in a running armband or on your belt. With the little lock button battery consumption is minimal.
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Here is my Diamond armband
I tend to start off, turning on my music, then start up Run.GPS, hit the start button, then press the little screen lock on the Run.GPS screen, I have Run.GPS speak to me every 30 seconds to tell me, Pace, Distance and speed.
If the device screen turns off, you just hit the top stand by button once to turn on screen again.
Generally I just run, listen to music, let Run.GPS tell me the rest...
The Belkin Ipod Classic armband is perfect
If the device screen turns off, you just hit the top stand by button once to turn on screen again.
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oh, this great
I must check device every time I use GPS software?
and how about ride my bicycle? Regullary stop to check screen?
A simple solution would be just to keep it differently, like in a running armband or on your belt
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I keep it differently
but I can accidentally press any key when I get it from it case. And screen work too!!!
I repeat: this is not solution
I don't want: check screen every time I use GPS software / buy mda compact / use dim backlight instead / use music player to turn off screen
enough those answers!
there is two ways to solve this problem as I say
-find tweak to keep GPS on while device is in stand by
-small utility that can lock device and turn off screen, but keep device on (and GPS too)
do you can tell something about those two ways?

Active display while driving, walking, in pocket?

To my understanding the active display sensors use the accelerometer to judge when to turn on - I'm not talking about when it is 'breathing' after you have received and email/text/etc.
Its an awesome feature not having to go to the home screen to see this stuff. (Though when you do unlock the phone from active display you get a brief flash of the home screen - I wish it would skip it completely)
However, I'm not convinced it really does 'turn off' in my pocket since when I carry it in my hand and walk a few feet, it is constantly going on and off due to any motion. Same with inside my car. Any bumps, stops, acceleration, etc that causes the phone to jiggle even a little (usually its in a cup holder or something like that) lights up the display. I know the battery drain is supposed to be very small with it.
What are your thoughts on this? On one hand its an awesome feature that I don't want to turn off but wish it wasn't so quick to wake in the vehicle or presumably in your pocket. In any kind of city driving it will be constantly going on and off, on and off.
Also, does the active display count as screen on time? I read somewhere that its only reported under Android OS?
Try this:
Cover your sensors, wait couple of seconds move it (without uncovering them) and try to activate active display, it should not do anything.
Thats exactly what happens in your pocket (I THINK)
It's very touchy and I wish I could turn off the motion sensing just because the time flashing on and off is annoying. It barely uses battery though. Less than 1% according to my gsam stats on a full discharge
You can disable Moto Actions to stop the motion sensing.
Ally Android said:
You can disable Moto Actions to stop the motion sensing.
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I'm pretty sure what you're talking about only disables the hand approach motion turning it on. (which is also annoying as of anything moves over your phone the screen turns on).
He is talking about movement of your phone turning display on which I believe is annoying too, perhaps more annoying than a hand motion to turn it on.
Opzon said:
I'm pretty sure what you're talking about only disables the hand approach motion turning it on. (which is also annoying as of anything moves over your phone the screen turns on).
He is talking about movement of your phone turning display on which I believe is annoying too, perhaps more annoying than a hand motion to turn it on.
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Your right. The movement sensor appears to be a part of Moto Display. When I disabled that, the screen no longer turned on with the phone movement.
I'd like to know if the motion thing can be disabled separately as well. I like being able to wave my hand over the motion sensor to activate the ambient display, but don't like that the thing comes on every time I accelerate in my truck.
The "proximity sensor" that turns the screen off when you hold the phone to your cheek during a phone call is supposed to disable to the Ambient display, so when the phone is in your pocket, or upside down on your truck car seat, the display shouldn't be coming on, or turning on from phone movement. Try it - cover up the top 1/4" of the phone (where the camera is etc), and then try and wake the phone - I can't get mine to do anything.
I have a cubby hole in my truck where the phone fits nicely and I can still see the screen face up. Sometimes while accelerating the ambient display comes on. That's what makes me think the ambient display acts on the accelerometer as well as the front facing motion sensor.
Yep the accelerometer is the issue. After reviewing battery logs since I've started using this phone I can see there isn't much drain from the time/black display lighting up all the time and it really doesn't seem to come on in the pocket unless you make sudden movements.
However any time there is acceleration or deceleration at a sharper rate and bumps in the road it lights up. Very annoying. Can't imagine how it is on long drives, etc. And it's stupid to just say "Oh turn it over" most people have their phone in a cup holder or some cubby on their vehicle.
Proximity sensor prevents the display from activating in your pocket, period. Move all you want, the display isn't activating
Display acfivates off movement uncovered as a feature anticipating you're picking up the device to look at it. Those activations are an extremely small fraction of battery usage, not nearly enough to affect you.
I find the sensor extremely annoying and I wish I could disable it. I have the phone next to my laptop and every time I move close to it the time lights up. Very poor design if they didn't anticipate the annoyance factor and no way for one to control it.
DevilDoc_3 said:
I find the sensor extremely annoying and I wish I could disable it. I have the phone next to my laptop and every time I move close to it the time lights up. Very poor design if they didn't anticipate the annoyance factor and no way for one to control it.
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You can disable it. Why do you think you can't? Why don't you turn it off instead of complaining about it? While it's on, it's doing exactly what it's supposed to do. Personally, I keep it turned on, because I like it.
Turn off the "wave your hand" feature if you don't like it. Wave works from even from a foot away sometimes. Turn it off, and your phone won't light up when it senses movement.
In CM/LOS based ROMs you turn off the WAVE highlighted feature you see, in Quark Ambient Display:
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Just turn off the Wave. (This screenshot was for another post a long time ago, so do not turn off the other setting highlighted.)
Various custom ROMs (Lollipop, Marshmallow, Nougat) have that setting in different places. Usually it's in Gestures, but Settings has a "search" feature you can use if you don't see it immediately.
If you are not running a custom ROM and are still on stock, I assume that setting is still somewhere on stock Moto Display -- because in the periodic debates we have people insist Moto Display has the same level of control as Quark Ambient Display.
Doing a Google Search -- which is quite easy if you want to try it sometime -- I found two answers turning off Wave in Moto Display. See what works for you:
Go to Settings -> Moto -> Actions -> disable 'Approach for Moto Display'.
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Go to settings, accessibility, dexterity and interaction, air wake up. Your problem should now be fixed!
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[ISSUE] Fingerprint always unlocks phone, even though proximity sensor is triggERRRR

Well, you read it. It's not a feature, it's a bug.
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I like to keep my hands in my pockets because of reasons, and since this phones fingerprint sensor is so sensitive(well, good, actually), I'm constantly unlocking it, while in my pocket. Any solution to this? And no, I won't change my lock style, because this one is the fastest and most useful all around.
Have you tried just putting your phone in your pocket screen side out, probably not the greatest idea without a tempered glass screen protector, but thought that may be a funnier answer.
One a more serious answer, isn't that what touch disable mode is used for in smart assistance. To stop random presses or functions when in a pocket or bag, I would assume that uses the proximity sensor to detect its in your pocket, I know my phone vibrates when I put my hand in my pocket and I touch the fingerprint sensor, but it never comes on until its out side the pocket.
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Have you tried just putting your phone in your pocket screen side out, probably not the greatest idea without a tempered glass screen protector, but thought that may be a funnier answer.
One a more serious answer, isn't that what touch disable mode is used for in smart assistance. To stop random presses or functions when in a pocket or bag, I would assume that uses the proximity sensor to detect its in your pocket, I know my phone vibrates when I put my hand in my pocket and I touch the fingerprint sensor, but it never comes on until its out side the pocket.
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Even with Touch-Disable, fingerprint still unlock the phone. I just tested, covering the sensors and unlocking with fingerprint,but i don't know if inside the pocket it's using some other sensor.
I consider it a bug, but maybe Huawei decided to go this way for other reasons (flip covers maybe?).
DANIELWHITT said:
Have you tried just putting your phone in your pocket screen side out, probably not the greatest idea without a tempered glass screen protector, but thought that may be a funnier answer.
One a more serious answer, isn't that what touch disable mode is used for in smart assistance. To stop random presses or functions when in a pocket or bag, I would assume that uses the proximity sensor to detect its in your pocket, I know my phone vibrates when I put my hand in my pocket and I touch the fingerprint sensor, but it never comes on until its out side the pocket.
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I literally can't understand **** you're saying, but whatever, it's a bug. Yeah your phone vibrates when it detects a wrong fingerprint, but that's not what I'm asking.
Way to speak to someone offering a reasonable answer, sort it out yourself then bud.
DANIELWHITT said:
Have you tried just putting your phone in your pocket screen side out, probably not the greatest idea without a tempered glass screen protector, but thought that may be a funnier answer.
One a more serious answer, isn't that what touch disable mode is used for in smart assistance. To stop random presses or functions when in a pocket or bag, I would assume that uses the proximity sensor to detect its in your pocket, I know my phone vibrates when I put my hand in my pocket and I touch the fingerprint sensor, but it never comes on until its out side the pocket.
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I tried n it unlocked even this feature turn on - is a bug.
Same issue with regular mate 10. Screen gets unlocked while the fingerprint gets activated in pocket even with the smart settings on. May be update will fix it
0rigin said:
Well, you read it. It's not a feature, it's a bug.
I like to keep my hands in my pockets because of reasons, and since this phones fingerprint sensor is so sensitive(well, good, actually), I'm constantly unlocking it, while in my pocket. Any solution to this? And no, I won't change my lock style, because this one is the fastest and most useful all around.
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erichkooi said:
I tried n it unlocked even this feature turn on - is a bug.
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vaas2000 said:
Same issue with regular mate 10. Screen gets unlocked while the fingerprint gets activated in pocket even with the smart settings on. May be update will fix it
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Unless I use my thumbprint I set up the screen won't turn on.
If the screen is on but not yet unlocked, it says unblock phone to unlock.
I'm thinking it's working pretty well since the screen won't come on draining the battery without my print. Also assuming more battery savings are made by keeping the sensor asleep when the screen is off? Just a thought.

Is dark mode dangerous for the screen?

I've seen a youtube video where author says that dark mode in S9+ killed his phone screen.
He said that when you use app that is not affected by dark mode (stays white) and this app uses keyboard (black in dark mode) it causes screen fatigue when you open keyboard and than close it.
Of course it depends on usage but in his example (using this app few times a day) his screen died after two weeks or something like that.
Is it even possible?
If I understood him correctly it wasn't usual screen burn in.
whatever caused the screen to malfunction wasn't use of dark mode
raul6 said:
whatever caused the screen to malfunction wasn't use of dark mode
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It seemed WEIRD but I decided to ask. I've thought abut it like a light switch.
On bright screen when we turn on black keyboard it will make pixels black. Maybe doing this a lot could be harmful.
Well... I like dark mode so I might turn it on again someday
Thx
860lacov said:
It seemed WEIRD but I decided to ask. I've thought abut it like a light switch.
On bright screen when we turn on black keyboard it will make pixels black. Maybe doing this a lot could be harmful.
Well... I like dark mode so I might turn it on again someday
Thx
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its like saying that driving your car is bad for the car because when you were driving it failed.
Dark mode doesn't kill displays
freeza said:
Dark mode doesn't kill displays
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randomness of the QC does.
860lacov said:
It seemed WEIRD but I decided to ask. I've thought abut it like a light switch.
On bright screen when we turn on black keyboard it will make pixels black. Maybe doing this a lot could be harmful.
Well... I like dark mode so I might turn it on again someday
Thx
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On Oled screens, the sections of the screen that are black are actually turned off completely. So so those pixels aren't even being powered.
I think that idea behind "problem" is :
When you have bright screen and you turn on keyboard with black elements than turn keyboard off it will work like power switch.
To be honest I choose to believe people from xda and assume that if I'm not unlucky than my screen is gonna be fine .
I feel that dark mode has got to much bright elements like icons . They should be grey or something
860lacov said:
I think that idea behind "problem" is :
When you have bright screen and you turn on keyboard with black elements than turn keyboard off it will work like power switch.
To be honest I choose to believe people from xda and assume that if I'm not unlucky than my screen is gonna be fine .
I feel that dark mode has got to much bright elements like icons . They should be grey or something
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What do you mean "it will work like power switch"? And please explain why "work like power switch" is bad for the screen.
Jammol said:
On Oled screens, the sections of the screen that are black are actually turned off completely. So so those pixels aren't even being powered.
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What do you mean "it will work like power switch"? And please explain why "work like power switch" is bad for the screen.
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Imagine Light bulb.
When switch is on there is light. When off there is no light.
If I'm correct light bulbs burn when you turn on power . Not while emitting light.
I have no idea if this comparison is even near the truth but this is what came to my mind .
860lacov said:
Imagine Light bulb.
When switch is on there is light. When off there is no light.
If I'm correct light bulbs burn when you turn on power . Not while emitting light.
I have no idea if this comparison is even near the truth but this is what came to my mind .
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sounds logical to me.
let's see if an engineer can disprove it.
im not one but i know that incandescent bulbs and oled are pretty different. the burning filament part of a bulb has a high peak uppon power on and and just the nature of the "burning" makes it much more prown to burnouts. plus the AC current switching created by 50 or 60 hz must be a big part of why bulbs break more...just the strain of it switching polarity back and forth and there is no capacitor to smooth it out. Oled being part of a DC electronic device and natively consuming much less, has all sorts of controls and capacitors to smooth everything out and moreover, it is constant.. but id bet if there is some sort of app that could strobe between full max brightness and blackout real quickly, I'd presume failure faster than we might think.
LED works differently than light bulbs... if LED is near to dead... it won't produce the correct light colors which is nearly happens when there's a screen burn on any OLED screens... it will display colors differently
Correct me if I am wrong but that's how I see it
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Maybe some conclusion ??
Dark mode and normal mode are the same for the screen ?
Oleds are designed to turn off the pixels that are not neded, so no, using a dark theme wont damage the screen.
and the power switch theory is very far from beeng anything, everything you turn on works like a "power switch" and you dont see everything on fire
in the case of the phone, is best for the pixels to be off because they have a sort of fixed lifetime, you will extend that lifetime using them only when needed.
A friend of mine used their S8+ in light mode at 80% brightness and after 18 months the screen was badly burned in. There was a brown haze affect over the entire screen and the status and Navigation bars were heavily noticeable on videos.
Dark mode saves battery and is easier on the eyes. Samsung has done well at preventing burn in, whereas LG is still questionable.
LEDs are diodes. A diode is a pn junction (a one-way valve), which is also what you find in transistors. These things are designed to switch on and off thousands of times a second, and do so for years with zero issues. LED brightness can also be driven with pulse width modulation, switching hundreds of times a second, with a modulated duty cycle that varies the LED brightness. Also note that while you are watching a video on your phone, five million LEDs are getting their brightness modulated 30 times a second. These things are designed exactly for this stuff. Nobody on YouTube will convince me these OLED screens are damaged by normal use.
NORMAL USE.
That said, these screens get VERY bright, to accommodate infrequent use under full sunlight. But some people complain that they can't stand (or even read from) their phone if the brightness is any less than full blast. My wife has it this way even in a dark room, or worse, while DRIVING at night. It's ridiculous! Auto-brightness is the way to go. My Auto-brightness varies from about 10-50% in normal indoor lighting, and it's very comfortable on my eyes while saving battery. I've just finished my normal 16 hour, day and I'm have 79% charge left (seriously). I last took my phone off the charger 16 hours ago.
Download and run the OLED tools app to see how bright your Note9 can go. You have an enormous amount of brightness headroom that you should never need to use for very long.
Dark mode actually helps prolong the life of AMOLED/OLED displays. As pixels which display black are turned off, so only the pixels which display color on the display are active.

Screen issue

Hi i've noticed on my a71 screen a black spot on the top corner right of the screen when i turn the brightness low....this stuff happens on the grey backgrounds idk if it is a problem or not?
Ilyas1r said:
Hi i've noticed on my a71 screen a black spot on the top corner right of the screen when i turn the brightness low....this stuff happens on the grey backgrounds idk if it is a problem or not?
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I noticed sth like that in the top left corner. Not sure what that is but it's not visible all the time so I'll keep observing.
So sir you mean that is not a problem? Cz this thing doesn't happen all the time...only in the low light brightness.....so idk what should i do?
Ilyas1r said:
Hi i've noticed on my a71 screen a black spot on the top corner right of the screen when i turn the brightness low....this stuff happens on the grey backgrounds idk if it is a problem or not?
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i have same problem. like you said, this is happening at dark mode only and low brightness
especially, if background is grey color it is more obvious
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Hi i've noticed on my a71 screen a black spot on the top corner right of the screen when i turn the brightness low....this stuff happens on the grey backgrounds idk if it is a problem or not?
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Is it your problem like this? I've noticed it always in the right top corner, specially with the blue light filter on.
The interesting part is that if I get the brightness any higher it disappears.
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So sir you mean that is not a problem? Cz this thing doesn't happen all the time...only in the low light brightness.....so idk what should i do?
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Well it's not a faulty pixel, the screen is not damaged or anything. You can try to use your warranty but in my country warranties don't work for such negligible and insignificant issues. Heck, in my country you try to use the warranty for a minor issue and Samsung service refuses the repair saying your phone was "pickled" with water while it never was.
I'm gonna keep it that way.
i dont think samsung uses dc dimming, so on a pwm screen it shouldn't have that kind of distortion. Sounds like a screen issue.
All A71 and S10 lite appear to have this defect. I already changed mine twice and both have the defect. I've seen cases where the device has been changed 3 times, and came with this defect every time. But it is a difficult problem to detect, so many people claim that their devices do not have this defect. The problem is usually only visible in some shades of dark gray, such as the image shown below. To check it is necessary to decrease the brightness to between 5% and 10%, go to a dark room and put this gray image in full screen.
My screen is just same as yours

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