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Blue Angel - A2DP Bluetooth

Hi all
I have got Blue Angel:
ROM: 1.42.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
BT: 3900
Last week I upgraded to the T-Movbile 1.42 Rom. I then installed the A2DP profile patch and was amazed that my Omiz OMS600 headphones were actually working using the high quality audio profile, and they were working very well.
The other day I did a hard reset to sort out a few things and left it at that. Later on when I came to reinstall my A2DP it wasn't working, nor was using the headphones as just a normal headset. I tried all sorts, including downgrading my ROM because at that point I was wondering whether or not it was actually on a previous version that I had it working.
Anyway... eventually I decided it was the headphones that had an error so emailed Omiz who were very helpful and sent me the download for their firmware flashing utility. This upgraded the ROM of my headphones from 1.06 to 1.25. I can now pair my headphones as a headset but not as High Quality Audio. I can get it to add a High Quality Audio shortcut in BT manager but when it trys to connect it says: "connection failed". Before it was also saying "service unavailable on device" or somthing similar.
Any assistance would be good.
Thanks a lot.

s_t_harvey said:
I then installed the A2DP profile patch and was amazed
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Can you, please, tell me where to find this patch?
Someone knows if it works for wm5??
Thanks!

A2DP & WM5
Hi there,
I got the patch from: ftp://xda:[email protected] Upgrades/BT profiles for build 3500/
But I'm not sure if it will work on WM5, I think I have read that it will not, this is my main reason for not moving to WM5 yet... although at the moment while i can't get A2DP working I am not much better off.
How are you finding WM5? Is it reliable enough to compete with WM2003 yet, or is there still a bit of work needed?

It doesn't work under WM5. WM5 has a Microsoft bluetooth stack, this patch does not apply.
WM5 on the BA is quite stable if you have the time to work with it. I am not going back. If somebody comes up with a BT fix for the stand-by problem that does not drain the battery, all of my issues will be fixed.

A2DP on WM5
Thanks for that... I might consider upgrading one evening when I have nothing better to do!
Do you rekon we'll ever see A2DP on the MS bluetooth stack?

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s_t_harvey said:
Thanks for that... I might consider upgrading one evening when I have nothing better to do!
Do you rekon we'll ever see A2DP on the MS bluetooth stack?
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Yeah I think so. Apparently it's not out in the wild yet, but w/ BT 1.2, a lot of people will be looking to do more with it.

shuffle said:
WM5 has a Microsoft bluetooth stack, this patch does not apply.
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Did you mean: "the mamaich rom has microsoft bluetooth stack". I really hope we can get WM5 with the same stack I had on w2003. (Broadcom, I think). Maybe it is out there but I can't see it...
shuffle said:
WM5 on the BA is quite stable if you have the time to work with it. I am not going back.
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I agree. By the moment, I'm very pleased with the performance of WM5 on my BA. It actually runs faster than w2003! And I'm beeing very objective, believe me!
I'm having a big annoyance with writting (sms, word, etc) as the spelling isn't allways what I wrote. On the SMS window, it seems the screen gets redrawn all the time and it loose some words...
The other big is not having A2DP. I think is very frustrating having such a nice machine without a good software that makes all its goodness work! :?
Some delayings on the screen repainting and (I'm using Pocket Informant) slow performance on the everyday tasks as opening the contacts list, or changing toanother program, for example...
shuffle said:
If somebody comes up with a BT fix for the stand-by problem that does not drain the battery, all of my issues will be fixed.
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What do you mean? To have the BT on a low-power mode more or less?
cheers...

looking 4 answers: ad2p & bluetooth & wm5
somebody with an answer to this theme?
WAS: ad2p & bluetooth & wm5
It is somehow possible?
Anybody there? :roll:

Answer is no, not possible yet.
And to the poster above - yes, just need the bluetooth connect issue solved where it drops connection when it goes into stand-by mode. The fix that drains the battery by keeping the unit out of standby mode really isn't a fix for me.
Not that I am complaining - I'm happy to be an early adopter along for the ride..

shuffle said:
Answer is no, not possible yet.
And to the poster above - yes, just need the bluetooth connect issue solved where it drops connection when it goes into stand-by mode. The fix that drains the battery by keeping the unit out of standby mode really isn't a fix for me.
Not that I am complaining - I'm happy to be an early adopter along for the ride..
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some URLs????
Thanks!

How do I enable A2DP on my BA??
Hello!!
I have searched the forum many many times and visited wiki, but I could only find 2 threads which is close to what I need to know. This is 1 of them.
I have got Blue Angel:
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.12.00
BT: 3900
This configuration came from the recently rom upgrade from o2.
It seems to me that it's possible to enable A2DP on a BA running on WM2003 SE, which allows me to stream music to a bt headphones??
However I just could not find a thread which has an instruction on how to do it. Not even on wiki. After reading some threads, I came to my own conclusion that I need to upgrade me BT to build 3900 and install a patch??
So this was what I did,
Since my BT is already 3900 "offical" version, thus I didn't do anything to it.
I d/l this file BA_OEM_AudioGW (1.33g.00).CAB (83KB) and ran it on my PPC. I then got the audiogw.dll in my windows folder.
That was all I did. It didn't work of course. I have another file, BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab but didn't use it as I'm already on 3900??
So I was just hoping that someone who has done it and was successful, could point me in the right direction!!! Thanks a lot!!!

anyone tried running both cab loacted at
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/BlueAn...age BT 1.0.0.3900 and audiogw.dll - 1.33g.00/
if it works, do let me know. I currently do not have a bluetooth headphones to test with.

I have Omiz headset (with MP3 and radio FM) and due to work with my Magician I had to manually change some registry entries. Point was that my PDA was not correctly identified as a A2DP device (only HF). I paired my PDA with normal BT dongle with A2DP profile, found registry entries with dongle mac adress and copied manually keys coressponding with a2dp service to folder with my headphones profiles. After all that it was possible to chose headphopnes in BT menager as stereo audio receiver.
Maybe its similar and u should look in registry...

jarekt, can you post those registryvalues please?!

Can't get streaming audio to BT headphones
I still have had no luck with the BA_OEM_AudioGW (1.33g 00) Cab or any registry settings under WM5.

BT a2dp WM5
have you tried the file (.cab) i uploaded in BlueAngel under uploads, it let me pair BT Stereo under wm5. Nevermind I looked someone deleted it dont know why. PM me and i can send if you want, I tried to reupload but Uploads appears broken.

I am on thesame situation of errorist.
My machine is on Broadcom 3900, and I want to make A2DP work.
If anyone can shed a light on how to make it work, I'd be very very grateful.
BTW, I have a Motorola HT820.
UPDATE:
I have installed the 3900 stack + audiogw dll even though I had a factory-installed 3900 stack, and I managed to connect in handsfree mode.
I still have not found out how to connect in A2DP mode though...
Any help is appreciated.

Hi All
I dont know how useful this is going to be, but i spent ages doing research to get my ht820 and my 02 xda 2s working properly, and when i did, i wrote a semi bad guide here
http://www.corecodec.com/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=29&expv=0&topic=2840.0
if its any use i'd be tempted to maybe write it up proper and put in in the wiki, either way, try some of the steps or files ive listed (most of them are from here)
but it gets it working with TCPMP aswell, which is a lot better than WM10 anyhow
good luck

BTW: ivans rom uses the broadcom stack, so the patch may work, however i dont have the headphones to test it with

i've onstalled this two cabs too, but new profile didn't appeared. Bay Be some registry values didn't appied? who did this patch?

BroadComm Bluteooth Stack

For any who wants to upgrade their existing PPC's Bluetooth stack to BroadComm stack...download from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/67820520/WidcommBluetooth.rar

ather90 said:
For any who wants to upgrade their existing PPC's Bluetooth stack to WIDCOMM stack...download from here : http://rapidshare.com/files/67820520/WidcommBluetooth.rar
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That's great...
But - have you try it on your Hima? If so... then it's fantastic

sorry i ahvent because my chraging block is broken..and i dnt have a card reader..will sold tomorrow

OK then... I'll try to check it tonight. Plus, I'll recombine this with a patch to a single cab.

gud and thnxx

BT
...for me working corectly great work. thx

Sweet! Finally, i can get rid of that crappy MS stack in my ROM.
Thanks ather & Helmi
EDIT: Stack works perfectly! File transfer is back to what it should be and everything's sweet!
2 questions tho.
1: Does this stack have A2DP? I've put off buying BT headphones cos the MS stack didn't support it, if this one does i'll probs go pick up a pair.
2: Know of any good bluetooth IM clients? A few mates of mine have XDAs and it'd be pretty sweet to chat to each other over bluetooth instead of using GPRS (we all work in the same vicinity (diff rooms) and at times, it'd be handy to send a quick bluetooth IM). I'm thinking if we were all on the same bluetooth personal / public network, the client'd be able to communicate with another client. In which case, it wouldn't need to be a specific bluetooth client (as the stack should, theoretically, transmit inet data over the bluetooth network), just a network client.

NxJay said:
Does this stack have A2DP? I've put off buying BT headphones cos the MS stack didn't support it
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MS BT stack under WM 5.0 and 6.0 supports A2DP without any modification.
Works great on my Himalayas.
Sascha

NxJay said:
2: Know of any good bluetooth IM clients? A few mates of mine have XDAs and it'd be pretty sweet to chat to each other ...
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Do you mean voice chat or txt chat? (I'm not an IM expert)
It sounds to me like we could theoretically use our devices more or less like good old walkie talkies

u can get it here : http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/btchat/

ather90 said:
u can get it here : http://www.mulliner.org/bluetooth/btchat/
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that website tells me it's only for Linux. It looks like it's only txt based?

Found this link
http://www.eurescom.de/~pub-deliverables/P1100-series/P1118/D3/VoiceOverBluetooth.html
Only readable in MSIE, horror in Firefox

Maggy said:
Do you mean voice chat or txt chat? (I'm not an IM expert)
It sounds to me like we could theoretically use our devices more or less like good old walkie talkies
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I was reading something last night about a user who'd hacked MS portrait to run as a PTT (push-to-talk) app over a bluetooth network, looked interesting. [url='http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=371262]Blog article[/url] | [url='http://winmobiletech.com/portrait/]MS portrait hacking link[/url]
Another app (currently in beta) is one from hipvoice.com. Apparently it's designed entirely for PTT over any network (bluetooth, wifi, gprs-etc)
TBH either text or voice IM would be good. It'd certainly be a helluva lot cheaper than SMSing friends in different rooms at work/college.
Lastly, anyone know why BT shuts off the second the device goes into standby? I used to have a widcomm stack on WM5 (a long LONG time ago) that didn't have this problem. I used to be able to start BT transfers and leave the device in my pocket (they'd still transfer even if the device standbyed). Now, the second the device turns off, all file transfers are instantly cut.
[url='http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1072976&postcount=9]Here[/url]'s an old forum post i dug up showing that widcomm used to work in the background on WM5. Any reason why it won't do the same on WM6?

did u try the Broadcomm stack

8Mb of program my god!!! that too resting inside the \windows . the Hima shall crawl and sleep..

ather90 said:
did u try the Broadcomm stack
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Same difference. Widcomm got taken over by broadcomm, so it's basically the same stack.
Yeah i'm using the stack on page 1 of this thread, works like a charm (apart from turning off during device standby).

Problems..
Hi there!
Tried and works great on my hima WM6..
Except 1 thing: i can not connect to my gps... I tried 1000 ways and no solution... It seams the com port part of the stack is wrong...
BTW i wanna uninstall... i tried and it doesnt worked... after uninstall the original bluetooth progs says there is a problem with ure hardware...
How to get back the "old" crappy MS bluetooth??
Thx..

I get this error:
The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insufficient driver memory available.
You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio.
First i install the stack, then the install do a soft reset and then i install the patch.

I've just switched for the PAN. everything is working fine, except for the SerialPort. I Think this stack need's some tweaking/hacking.
When I tested with my BT GPS, the GPS LED stopt blinking = it means the GPS is connected.
But for some reason the software/application can't find the BT GPS.
BTW does anyone know if it's possible to keep booth stack's on the device? I Love PAN, but still need SerialPort.
Thanks.

I am too stupid to use your software. With your WM6 ROM active sync not working and with other ROMs i get this error using this BT stack:
Error

Can the Tilt/Kaiser Bluetooth Stack be replaced?

I've been having some issues with my Tilt and my car's hands free setup (see: http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=105410). The problems seems to lie with the Microsoft bluetooth stack on WM 6.1. HTC is no help with this issue so I want to take matters into my own hands. Is there a way to replace the default Microsoft bluetooth stack with another, more reliable compatible stack from a reliable company (not Microsoft or HTC)? I don't want to get rid of my Tilt, but I need it to work right in my car. I'm thinking of staying away from purchasing WM 6.1 smartphones because of this.

frustrated...
Wow, no one has answered my post here, at ATT, at Kenwood, or on tiltsite. HTC answered only to tell me that compatibility doesn't necessarily mean that it would work (bs). This is very frustrating. I've read post all over xda developers and the rest of the internet about tilt bluetooth problems yet no one has an answer. I've completely giving up on trying to get bluetooth to work right with any of my devices (car, computer, etc). I can't imagine buying another HTC product. Good luck to everyone else out there struggling to get bluetooth to work on their tilt while the motorola, blackberry, lg, samsung, and other phone users watch with amazement and pity. Keep fighting the good fight. Hopefully one of you will win. I've completely lost!

That's a pretty strange story you've got there, because I have zero problems with my Tilt and bluetooth pairing to all manners of devices... on a regular basis, I connect my Tilt to my car's Pioneer stereo deck, to my laptop and desktop, and to my wireless headphones and I've had little to no difficulty. Actually, the easiest pairings so far have been between my Tilt and Pioneer Stereo Deck... At least for basic features - in order for the phone book entries to show on the deck's LCD display it required an upgrade from WinMo 6.0 to 6.1 and then in the deck itself I have to manually download the contact book. But that's the only troublesome thing I have to do, which is mostly an advanced feature any way that I could live (but prefer not to) without.
Sucks that you're having problems, all I can suggest is make sure you're doing everything properly... I've had no problems I couldn't overcome with my Tilt and bluetooth capable devices, especially since Windows Mobile 6.1 came out.

Hi,
I'm having the same problems, also when disconnecting from the BT carstereo after a phonecall, the device freezes up.
Anybody found a solution for this problem yet ?
Ny the way, my car stereo is a JVC KD-BT1
GRTZ,
Niels

@k4ever: Have you checked out this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
From what I can tell, they've ported the Widcomm BT stack to the Hermes and TyTN, so I imagine it's not far off from the Kaiser/TyTN-II, if it doesn't already work (my BT is working fine, so I'm not too likely to mes with my phone to find out-- but I hope this helps!)
-Weasel5i2
EDIT: Here's a CAB from the newer threads of the above post:
http://rs38.rapidshare.com/files/30721150/broadcomm_bt_stack.CAB

Thanks
Wow, thanks for the replies.
@ceosion
I got it working with a Pioneer deck in Best Buy. I was actually debating buying one, but I paid $500 for my Kenwood setup. All of my other phones work with it, to include other WM phone (not from HTC). I contacted Kenwood, but I have not recieved a reply.
@Weasel5i2
I tried the Widcomm stack when I used the stock ATT rom. It completely disabled bluetooth on the Tilt. I will try it with the PDA Corner rom I'm currently using (the best!) after the holiday weekend.
Thanks again for the replies!

k4ever said:
Wow, thanks for the replies.
@ceosion
I got it working with a Pioneer deck in Best Buy. I was actually debating buying one, but I paid $500 for my Kenwood setup. All of my other phones work with it, to include other WM phone (not from HTC). I contacted Kenwood, but I have not recieved a reply....
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I am experiencing Bluetooth connection issues between the Tytn2 and a kenwood DNX8220BT As far as I've heard from kenwood the Tytn2 is only supported with the older version of Windows Mobile (6.0)
I've also tried the Kenwood with my wife's Touch Diamond (Also HTC but other CPU, don't know about the BT radio though) but that one is also experiencing trouble. I didn't get any indication when they would have a new firmware version ready.
You did indicate that you also tried another WM phone, which version of WM does that one operate on?

@Mautje
The other WM phone was a Samsung Blackjack II running WM 5. I downgraded my Tilt to the default WM 6 Rom from ATT, but I had the same problems. I'm running the PDA Corner WM 6.1 Rom now. Does matter which ROM I use, I get the same results on the Tilt.

widcomm stack a no-go
I tried the Widcomm stack. It did not work at all. Kept getting error that "there was not enough memory to run, please reset device" or something to that nature. Could not uninstall so I had to re-flash my ROM. Back to square one.

k4ever said:
The other WM phone was a Samsung Blackjack II running WM 5. I downgraded my Tilt to the default WM 6 Rom from ATT, but I had the same problems. I'm running the PDA Corner WM 6.1 Rom now. Does matter which ROM I use, I get the same results on the Tilt.
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To bad. I was also looking into the other roms on this forum but it wil probably not work..
Kenwood is reporting that it should work with the rom version mentioned in the compatibility sheet.
In the sheet for version 1.43 firmware there is no mention at all of a rom version just the Tytn2.. I guess that's the WM 6.0 version

Cooking MS Bluetooth stack into rhodium...?

Not sure if anyone out there is aware, but a lot of people (myself included) have been having some problems with the Widcomm bluetooth stack that is being used in the Rhodium (touch pro 2, tilt 2) and i possibly the Topaz (Touch Diamond 2/htc pure). Does anyone know if it would be possible to take a the MS bluetooth stack that has been used in other phones in the past, such as the touch pro from last year, and cook it into the newer touch pro 2 ROMs?

Bump. I'm interested in this question as well.

i am interested 2 because older htc bluetooth stacks are working for me

Count me in. I would also like to see this cooked or even some solution for those of us who want to change to older one.

I don't think that drivers are available. I'm not sure, but I don't beleive any Rhodium ROM (even the early dev builds) had M$ stacks.

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I don't think that drivers are available. I'm not sure, but I don't beleive any Rhodium ROM (even the early dev builds) had M$ stacks.
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Hey Sleuth!!!! Good to see ya, been awhile!!!
You may bve able to use the different stack. There are other BT stacks that were installable via cab for devices past. However, as Sleuth pointed out, unless you have access to device specific drivers it will take a bit more work than just cooking in an available package from a previous device package.
Give it a try. If you know about disassembly, try to compare the stacks. Just remember that there are not just the BT drivers you need to worry about, but also all of the shared resources that the driver uses or is used as for some audio functions, in example.

Just a note, but plenty of people had problems when they switched to the Microsoft stack in the titan, TP, etc. The fact that they switched back to the Widcomm stack was a blessing for A LOT of people who weren't able to use their last gen devices with many Nissan and Infiniti vehicles with both bluetooth and navigation. It just didn't work for us before the TP2 came out, unless you kept your old HTC Apache for this long.

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Hey Sleuth!!!! Good to see ya, been awhile!!!
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yeah, I was almost ready to jump ship to android or even iPhone but then the Rhodium appeared. This is a bonafide cool gizmo the likes of which I have not seen since my Palm TT3.

MS BT Drivers
I would also love to have the MS BT drivers in the Rhodium. with Widcomm the voice dialling does not work properly, the phone does not connect to my Win 7 laptop. All this worked just fine with my TyTn II.

Yep, would be nice...
Driving a Volvo with BT, and up to now, I could pair it with my O2 Atom Life, HTC TP and a lot of other phones & PDA's.
Since i have the TH2 though, i can't get the sound working while trying to do a hands free call.
Recently I found a workaround by disabling the Data Connection in Comm. Manager, but this still stays a cumbersome solution.
I would appreciate the old MS BT stack of the TP on my TP2 as well

Iam not sure... about this but what i know is the devices which use generic bluetooth stack (microsoft) has bthuart.dll in oem drivers and bluetooth packeges in sys atleast thats what i have in my device..

Is there anybody can Change/Update BT drivers for TP2

Is there any professional Engeneer can Change/Update BT drivers for TP2 when using handset in Voice Commander?
I want to use BT earphone and hold(lone press) botton to run Voice Commander when driving.But someone said that this problem is because TP2 use this driver "Widcomm BT stack" .If we change to "MS BT stack" may fix this problem.Is that possable?.....

No, this has been discussed by some of the best ROM cooks, and it cannot be done AFAIK. The problem is that the Bluetooth chipset in the Rhodium won't work with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack unless someone can get the proper drivers, which will likely never happen. It's a shame too, many other people also dislike the Widcomm Bluetooth stack because of its poor compatibility with third party products.

Existing discussion on this is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558932&highlight=Bluetooth+Stack
Dave