Is there anybody can Change/Update BT drivers for TP2 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

Is there any professional Engeneer can Change/Update BT drivers for TP2 when using handset in Voice Commander?
I want to use BT earphone and hold(lone press) botton to run Voice Commander when driving.But someone said that this problem is because TP2 use this driver "Widcomm BT stack" .If we change to "MS BT stack" may fix this problem.Is that possable?.....

No, this has been discussed by some of the best ROM cooks, and it cannot be done AFAIK. The problem is that the Bluetooth chipset in the Rhodium won't work with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack unless someone can get the proper drivers, which will likely never happen. It's a shame too, many other people also dislike the Widcomm Bluetooth stack because of its poor compatibility with third party products.

Existing discussion on this is here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=558932&highlight=Bluetooth+Stack
Dave

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So many new WM5 releases... Still no bluetooth fix?

So many new WM5 releases... Still no bluetooth fix?
Hi
Unfortunately - yes.
But good guys are working on it.
It's matter of short time when Ivan's ROM will have it.
It's the only thing that keeps me staying on WM2003...[/b]
Dont count on it being fixed, not with the MS stack anyway.
lets all cross our fingers and hope that widcomm 1.7 works
i doubt there would be a fix with MS Stack, unless we can get broadcom or widcomm stack running.. then everything, including A2DP should run just fine.
I'm currently testing the broadcom/widcomm 1.71 stack, result are still inconclusive, but its better than the M$ one
Everything apart from bluetooth voicedial.......
Hi
Most of you already know this, but:
The newest relase of Ivan's ROM has the BT disconnect issue resolved permanently.
Have fun with it
Yes it is a step in right direction, but still have nasty bug with most BT Headsets, no voce in call. I am sure that mamaich ivan and Midget_1990 will find a solution for this bug soon. We will just wait and see
any progress?
I have widcomm stack 1.7 in my ipaq 6965, and I can control audio input/output over bluetooth by press of button on the headset (press and hold for 2 sec it'll trigger a redial AT command I think) but it just can't trigger an application like voicecommand in the pda. What's fustrating is that there's no documentation of widcomm sdk, so there's no way to figure out what's required in the registry (plus what dll needs to be develop) in order to handle the AT+CPR200 (I think that's the AT command for bluetooth button press) event.
If somebody has some clue or progres, please share here and hopefully more brains can be put together and fix this once and for all!
I do not know what is the problem with your ipaq, but the bt bug is fixed now, you can search the forums for it
xplode said:
I do not know what is the problem with your ipaq, but the bt bug is fixed now, you can search the forums for it
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hi, my problem is not about auto-disconnect or no sound. everything works perfectly fine with 1.7 widcomm stack except that I can't do voice dial. specifically, I can't activate a voice cmd application with the press of bluetooth button. When I press the button, the audio streaming is turned on (and mic is working over bluetooth) but it just doesn't start the voice cmd application, which I have to manually turn it on from the pda device.
if your BA's widcomm can enable the voice dial, I would like to request if you can share your registry and the necessary dLL
we dont use widcomm anymore because someone fixed the M$ stack.

Widcomm BT

Is there anyway to install the Widcomm BT on the 8125?
And if so how?
Thanks
That will be just great, MS Bt stack just sucks!!!
No one has a clue??
That would be very illegal. You would have to hack in the stack into the phone, then hack the license to allow for the different hardware.
However, there is a good thread about doing this at http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=114983

Put Microsoft Bluetooth Stack back into Touch Pro2?

I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
I had this issue and moved to NRG's Genesis 6.5 rom. everything works fine.
I have not seen a 6.1 rom that works tho.
My TMoUS TP2 works perfect with my Motorola S9's when using the MSVC that came on the stock ROM.
S
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
asango said:
Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
I wanted to do this, for my own as well. I think the problem we're facing is... drivers. The phone has a slightly different bt/wifi/radio module, therefore required the broadcom drivers. I'll look into making it work with the MS BT stack though... although I'm not too optimistic.
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
asango said:
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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asango said:
Finally someone who has the same problems as I have.
There are also other annoying side effects of this Broadcom stack:
- As we all know the stereo output is nothing compared to for example an IPhone. Therefore I always used WOW SRS as a sound mixer which closed the gap at least to some degree on my Kaiser.
But now with the TP2 and its Broadcom stack as soon as WOW SRS is installed (I know about the different settings and driver versions to get it working, so this is not the cause) the BT stack is only connecting the hands free profile after this and the stereo profile is simply not working any more.
With the old MS stack this was not a problem.
So I'm back to the old crippled stereo output again
- One could imagine using the integrated HTC sound mixer/booster, but here another even more annoying thing comes into play:
The internal sound mixer (and also the FM radio by the way) are not working with BT at all!!!
Both are only working with a cabled headset and I found no way of getting the FM radio sound to the BT headset or using the sound mixer function on BT.
Together with the non working voice command thing this whole BT integration is so dilettantish that I can hardly believe HTC is selling it as a "professional smartphone".
If someone has any workaround for the above things I would highly appreciate it.
And of course if one of the chefs could implement the old MS BT stack in a cooked ROM this would also be a great thing, but I have not seen one so far.
But even if, I can only hope that some HTC people are reading these comments and that HTC is putting some more professionality into this issue and will soon get it together as a working whole and not as this amateurish implemantation it is currently
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p-slim said:
I to am having bluetooth problems. I have a sprint tp2. on the opposite end of you i like to use my stereo bt with my pioneer bt deck. with the tp1 i had no problems but now i cant end the call from the deck anymore, it lags when picking up the call, and some other minor bugs. the sound quality is still good.
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ruinertt said:
What Pioneer headunit/Pioneer bluetooth unit are you using?
I have an AVIC-D3 with the Pioneer CD-BTB200 module for bluetooth. I have zero issues making it connect with the CD-BTB200 module. I can make calls, receive calls, play bluetooth stereo, etc. The ONLY issue that I have is that when the phone rings on an incoming call, I only hear the ring through my phone's speaker, not the speakers in my SUV. This was not an issue with the M$ Bluetooth stack, however. Go figure. If I can figure out how to make the phone sounds play through my speakers (yes, I have the send notifications/sounds box checked in the advanced bluetooth properties), everything will work 100%.
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I am using a JVC deck and it connects great. Sound quality is a bit better than from my Wing; my only problem is that when I disconnect from the call it takes my TP2 2-3 minutes to show that the call is actually ended, it runs slower than molases like I have 50 programs running and all trying to access the internet and downloading large files. After the 2-3 minutes the phone has returned to normal like nothing was wrong. I am thinking of flashing to one of the good looking 6.5 roms that our wonderful chefs have cooked up for us, but I cant decide which one to try first!
asango said:
The worst thing in my opinion is the described fact that the internal FM radio and the equalizer/booster can not be used with any hooked up BT device.
Therefore listening to FM radio with BT headphones is simply not possible.
By the way I think this was also an issue in older models, so I don't think that this is a newly introduced thing with the TP2 and the Broadcom stack.
Does anyone of you guys see a solution for sending the FM radio output to the BT channel?
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In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
mastermarv said:
No, because the cable of the wired headset is used as antenna. even if you manage to fool the radio application to start with the wired headset not connected you won't hear anything but noise.
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The point is that I want to be able to use the wireless BT headset with all the audio sources on the device. This would only be logical.
Having to use the wired headset as antenna is of course the other annoying thing in the hardware design of this device (since I think HTC should also have been able to get FM reception with a built in antenna or even the phone frame. Don't know why they have not done this in order to at least allow using the radio in situations where one has got no headset at hand, especially with the TP2, which has got no 3.5mm jack)
But apart from this issue still the only consequent thing would be to be able to use all audio sources with the attached wireless headset. That's what is it for...
pimppoet said:
In the stock tmobile tp2 there is a app in the windows folder labeled btfm.exe I started it up but I I was only able to get about 15 seconds of audio play using my h500 motorola headset....no bt headphones to test out.
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Yes, this first seemed to be an option to me also, but on my TP2 if I open the btfm.exe I get absolutely no sound, no matter which speaker setting in the software. Not on the wired headphone, not on the internal speaker and also not on the BT headset, even though it is successfully attached with the stereo profile.
Have tried this with several ROMs, always the same problem: No output at all.
And on some it even won't start (error message Unable to extract skin template)
But since HTC has included this exe in the ROM but has not put a link in the start menu I think they know about this lack of functionality, but have not solved it.
Does anyone know more about btfm.exe and a way to get it working?
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
Cyberon speed voice dial
Please need help to activate CSVD over BT in TP2
gompf said:
Hi Guys,
That is my first real complaint I have about the Touch Pro2 ! All is fine but the Widcomm stck it a bummer, my JetwareMobile Extension is now rendered useless, no more callername in my Bluetooth headset and lost some funtionality compared to befor too, but I have to be fair I gained some too, but if I need thoose that is a different topic.
Chris
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I feel your pain. I miss having JetwareMobile to help interface with my car's head unit.
adamz said:
I'm using a T-Mobile Touch Pro2 which includes the Broadcom Bluetooth stack and Microsoft Voice Command 1.6.2105. The problem is the Bluetooth software is not compatible with Voice Command and I hate it.
Voice Command is unable to announce TTS events via any bluetooth headset despite having the option for that turned on. Also, activating Voice Command via a bluetooth headset button is either very slow, or unstable (doesn't work sometimes).
Has anyone been able to create a Rhodium ROM that uses the normal Microsoft Bluetooth stack, which has been known to actually work with 3rd party programs?
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Check out this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562161
it appears to do what you want.
Yes, and also the latest of NRGZ28's ROMs does have the BT triggered VC:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
Seems like realls HTC has managed to get back this functionality into the latest BT stack version, even though there seem to be some bugs still in conjunction with the current V 1.6.21040 as I wrote here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4578993&postcount=30
Hi everyone, I have a similar question related to the Microsoft bluetooth stack. I have an ATT Tilt2 (stock ROM still) and have downloaded the Office 2010 beta programs from the Marketplace. A new feature (at least I think it is new) is the Presentation Companion for PowerPoint which allows you to control a PowerPoint presentation using your phone.
When I try to set up the Presentation Companion, however, it gives me a message about not being able to find any bluetooth devices. The instructions from Microsoft say that you must have the Microsoft bluetooth stack installed on the phone and the computer you want to control to get this functionality. I never get to the point of connecting to my computer so I figure it must be the phone.
Has anyone else had similar issues or tried the Presentation Companion? I tried applying the .CAB update listed earlier in this thread but it did not help.
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
monkeyboy0076 said:
On a side note, with the stock bluetooth stack I have had no issues connecting to my Pioneer headunit in my car for hands-free and A2DP stereo streaming. I have not tried to use the controls from my radio to control the playback, so I'n not sure if that works. The headunit I'm using is the DEH-710BT.
Thanks!
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I have a Pioneer AVIC-D3 and have no issues with playback (or the controls) using the BT stack in the Rhodium. This, of course, was tested with Windows Media Player. I can do forward, reverse, pause, stop, play, etc.

Broadcom Bluetooth Stack For X1

Can Anyone Help Me To Find An Working Broadcom Bluetooth Manager Stack For My Xperia?
any wm5+ version would work
I'd suggest you search the forum with those keywords
but to tell you the truth I haven't come across any braodcom stacks
since wm2003SE so not 100% sure there are any but haven't really looked that hard
Out of curiosity, what functionality are you hoping to gain by switching stacks?
will
i tryed hard looking for keywords using google and i have seen many CABs but they didnt work because of the license,
and sonus i think that Broadcom Bluetooth Stack its much more professional than the normal ,i think Broadcom Stack has much more bluetooth plugin`s than the other plus you feel free when using it
so anyone have a idea where i can download it free and it must be for wm 6.1 or 6.5
There was a working cab to change Dell X51v MS BT stack to Broadcom. But you probably need some hacking in order to make it work for other device. Broadcom stack has more profile but also has it's own problems (e.g. system volume control is not working over A2DP). Do a search on TP2 forum (since it's using broadcom stack) and you will find out.
Why would you want a Broadcom stack? I spent 2 months trying to get a Microsoft Stack on my A696 which only supports Broadcom. It was a frustrating and fruitless exercise, though I did manage to get an upgraded version of Broadcom working at one point it didn't work very well and didn't do anything my old version didn't do already. None of the Microsoft ones would run at all though, and I tried just about every trick possible.
With the Microsoft Stack you can use fun things like Bluetooth Mice and Keyboards - something not yet supported by Broadcom stacks. I'd stick with that imho - its quite fun and useful
That search to try to get a bluetooth mouse to work with my A696 PDA is why I'm registered as pdamouse...
Peter
guys
guys i still want that bluetooth stack no matter just any working broadcom bluetooth stack for windows mobile 6.1,
i just love how it works and it gets information ,it has many profiles that are not in the normal bluetooth stack and it provides many options at the same time so pls guys do anyone have any idea where i can find such stack to download it and use it for free?
same question as error man
Hi Guys, is there a good stable bluetooth stack for the TP2? i have lots of issues getting it to work properly with my volvo v70.
sonus said:
Out of curiosity, what functionality are you hoping to gain by switching stacks?
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It might help solve the disconnect issue with WM devices and several handsfree devices.
I just tried one of the WM 6.5 Roms on my Kaiser (TYTN2).
It will still disconnect the headunit in my car (Kenwood DNX8220BT) after a call is finished. I was hoping WM6.5 would improve the Bluetooth stack.
I also have an Experia X1 which is exhibiting the same issue
Mautje said:
It might help solve the disconnect issue with WM devices and several handsfree devices.
I just tried one of the WM 6.5 Roms on my Kaiser (TYTN2).
It will still disconnect the headunit in my car (Kenwood DNX8220BT) after a call is finished. I was hoping WM6.5 would improve the Bluetooth stack.
I also have an Experia X1 which is exhibiting the same issue
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I INSTALL THE BROADCOM STACK and the system dont boot again, i must to make a hard reset.
pdamouse said:
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With the Microsoft Stack you can use fun things like Bluetooth Mice and Keyboards - something not yet supported by Broadcom stacks. I'd stick with that imho - its quite fun and useful
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Not wanting to came across as a seller, but have you heard of Teksoft BlueInput?
They're almost there!
How do I know this? I'm the one who asked Teksoft to build such a a program!
Been using several HID devices with my MS bluetooth stack WM phones, last years. Even a Logitech diNovo Mini, a "small" keyboard with touchpad.

Cooking MS Bluetooth stack into rhodium...?

Not sure if anyone out there is aware, but a lot of people (myself included) have been having some problems with the Widcomm bluetooth stack that is being used in the Rhodium (touch pro 2, tilt 2) and i possibly the Topaz (Touch Diamond 2/htc pure). Does anyone know if it would be possible to take a the MS bluetooth stack that has been used in other phones in the past, such as the touch pro from last year, and cook it into the newer touch pro 2 ROMs?
Bump. I'm interested in this question as well.
i am interested 2 because older htc bluetooth stacks are working for me
Count me in. I would also like to see this cooked or even some solution for those of us who want to change to older one.
I don't think that drivers are available. I'm not sure, but I don't beleive any Rhodium ROM (even the early dev builds) had M$ stacks.
Sleuth255 said:
I don't think that drivers are available. I'm not sure, but I don't beleive any Rhodium ROM (even the early dev builds) had M$ stacks.
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Hey Sleuth!!!! Good to see ya, been awhile!!!
You may bve able to use the different stack. There are other BT stacks that were installable via cab for devices past. However, as Sleuth pointed out, unless you have access to device specific drivers it will take a bit more work than just cooking in an available package from a previous device package.
Give it a try. If you know about disassembly, try to compare the stacks. Just remember that there are not just the BT drivers you need to worry about, but also all of the shared resources that the driver uses or is used as for some audio functions, in example.
Just a note, but plenty of people had problems when they switched to the Microsoft stack in the titan, TP, etc. The fact that they switched back to the Widcomm stack was a blessing for A LOT of people who weren't able to use their last gen devices with many Nissan and Infiniti vehicles with both bluetooth and navigation. It just didn't work for us before the TP2 came out, unless you kept your old HTC Apache for this long.
GSLEON3 said:
Hey Sleuth!!!! Good to see ya, been awhile!!!
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yeah, I was almost ready to jump ship to android or even iPhone but then the Rhodium appeared. This is a bonafide cool gizmo the likes of which I have not seen since my Palm TT3.
MS BT Drivers
I would also love to have the MS BT drivers in the Rhodium. with Widcomm the voice dialling does not work properly, the phone does not connect to my Win 7 laptop. All this worked just fine with my TyTn II.
Yep, would be nice...
Driving a Volvo with BT, and up to now, I could pair it with my O2 Atom Life, HTC TP and a lot of other phones & PDA's.
Since i have the TH2 though, i can't get the sound working while trying to do a hands free call.
Recently I found a workaround by disabling the Data Connection in Comm. Manager, but this still stays a cumbersome solution.
I would appreciate the old MS BT stack of the TP on my TP2 as well
Iam not sure... about this but what i know is the devices which use generic bluetooth stack (microsoft) has bthuart.dll in oem drivers and bluetooth packeges in sys atleast thats what i have in my device..

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