Is there a difference between the two or are they identical?
If identical then i'll just install
http://db.androidspin.com/android_developer_display.asp?developerid=21
would save the trouble of unrooting
hawee8 said:
Is there a difference between the two or are they identical?
If identical then i'll just install
http://db.androidspin.com/android_developer_display.asp?developerid=21
would save the trouble of unrooting
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1st is myfave in OTA if you dont have myfave in your account then it's basically the same
Feels like beating a dead horse saying this is posted in the wrong forum. There's a q&a section and general...
Anyways, ota updates are tmobile based. They have myfaves, are labeled as a g1 device, and are usually odexed. Adp updates are aimed at a dev phone, they are labeled as such, don't come with myfaves or other propprietary software, and are usually not odexed. Both are signed with different keys
ADP1 doesn't have tmobile spam.
ADP1 has root.
ADP1 doesn't waste data by downloading OTA updates behind your back.
My concern is different. I use the one-click method to root the phone, namely the recovery flasher. I understand that it uses a hole that it patched in newer Unix OS. So my question is whether accepting Donut over the air will include a patch that would disable the one-step rooting of the phone?
Rooted phones don't receive ota's, hope that's not unresponsive
Yes, we know that, but right now my phone is unrooted and I am pondering whether to accept the OTA 1.6 or to reject it because it might be preventing future rooting.
There may be many unrooted users as of this moment and we need guidance whether we should accept or reject a 1.6 OTA.
EDIT: From the official announcement, "Android 1.6 upgrades the Linux kernel from 2.6.27 to 2.6.29". So the real question is whether the kernel pdate renders one-click rooting impossible.
donut patches that lunix exploit for the one click root hack. so yes if you accept that image you will have to root it the old fashion way by reflashing the rc 29 image and using telnet and whatnot.
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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If you don't have the expertise to root your phone the old fasion way. Then you SHOULD NOT be rooting your phone at all. Just accept the ota update and leave it at that.
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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okay why dont u just hurry up and root..then install one of the custom 1.6 roms
yes the OTA 1.6 will patch up the "hole" needed for the 1-click root.
from what i figure out if you already have OTa 1.6 then downgrade to OTA cupcake and then try 1 click root. or root the LOONG way.
If you cannot root by downgrading to rc29 ,then how do expect to solve any problems your phone gives you after you root it?
starscream00 said:
If you don't have the expertise to root your phone the old fasion way. Then you SHOULD NOT be rooting your phone at all. Just accept the ota update and leave it at that.
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highly untrue. i dont have "expertise" in doing root the long way.
i dont even remember EVERYTHING(mostly commands in terminal) since i only rooted ONCE the long way. and its been a loong tim since i rooted. so i am no expert
so i think u need to stfu. what you said wasnt being very constructive and very much false.
david1171 said:
If you cannot root by downgrading to rc29 ,then how do expect to solve any problems your phone gives you after you root it?
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i agree thats y i dnt like the one click method. it just brought a flood of noobs who didnt understand what they were doing by rooting it. i mean i was a noob when i rooted but i did it the old way by dwngrading and such.
pistol4413 said:
i agree thats y i dnt like the one click method. it just brought a flood of noobs who didnt understand what they were doing by rooting it. i mean i was a noob when i rooted but i did it the old way by dwngrading and such.
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Same here. Though I like to do things the easy way, the 1-click got many people who don't even understand what root access is nor the dangers of having root access on their phone.
I only hope that they learn the details of how to use and maintain rooted android fast
i root an unroot for meditation...
rbrahmson said:
1) So shouldn't someone post a big warning to unsuspecting users not to accept 1.6 OTA automatically?
2) Is anybody going to create an alternative one-click method. Not everyone out there (and that includes me) has the expertise to do the more complex rooting process ...
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But.... have found that certain builds lack that credentials i.e internal storage or market access for apps.... so i have found that the (holiday updates for the adp1 work the best for me!)
Not everyone will agree with me at this time, and yes ive had all the jf and cm mods on my devices, but i care more about internal storage and warranty than all that crazyniess!
And even after getting hero on my pda, i still went back to the adp1 1.6 and lost root!
Now the minute somebody figures out who to gain root after donut/1.6 applying hero wont be hard at all!
tommyinhi27 said:
But.... have found that certain builds lack that credentials i.e internal storage or market access for apps.... so i have found that the (holiday updates for the adp1 work the best for me!)
Not everyone will agree with me at this time, and yes ive had all the jf and cm mods on my devices, but i care more about internal storage and warranty than all that crazyniess!
And even after getting hero on my pda, i still went back to the adp1 1.6 and lost root!
Now the minute somebody figures out who to gain root after donut/1.6 applying hero wont be hard at all!
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Most, if not all, custom roms have 100% market access. All donut builds have support for using internal ROM for apps only. You warranty is null if you have the ADP image installed on a T-Mobile G1
ADP1.6 still has root.
We all know how to gain root after donut.
Read the stickies
Advise needed.
I've had my G1 for over a year & i'm going to root it now.( cause until i found this forum i didn't know you could). Now i am a novice, but if i brick my phone it's my own fault. (plus i got it free anyway).
just wanted to check a few things. I'm running 1.6 Donut. I'm under i impression
i need to downgrade to 1.5 cupcake b4 i can root it?? Is this correct??
Build number DRC92.. I'm in the UK
And can i partion my SD card without a card reader?? Also i've got a 2GB SD card will this do or should i get a larger one before rooting??
Thanks in advance for your help.
i rooted my g1, and i seriosly didnt know wot i was doing, but i did it anyway, but i want to know if i could ''take the root off'' its not benifiting me in anyway and i dont understand the roms and so on, so any help in getting my fone so it was like the way i bought it, would be great,
Thanks
You'll want to find the DREAIMG.nbh file for your region US or EU
Make sure your sdcard is formatted as FAT32, place the file on your card
Turn off your phone
Boot your phone with camera + power
Allow your phone to flash the file
Now you're back on stock android RC29 for US or RC7 for EU
Wait..... for your OTA updates and eventually you'll be back on 1.6
Hey Guys, This is one of my first posts here, although I've been browsing this forum for months now. Thanks a ton you've made my hero experience 10 better.
Today I got a new class 6 sd from New egg. So I setup everything to be switched out from one card to the next, shut down, put in my new card, and rebooted like every other day.
When it booted it said invalid sd card.
So I shut down and tried to get the card out and its stuck. I think the spring mechanism is toast or something.
I have coverage thru Bestbuy, and I'm positive they will replace or fix it, I'm just worried they won't be happy about the root status.
So is there a way for me to push the non root rom to my phone with ADB?
How bout the boot loader?
I'm running Sprint Hero CDMA with DamageControl 2.08.1 with God Mode .29 kernel.
I really don't want to have to break my phone just to get it serviced. If anyone can help Thanks in advance.
just run the ruu it can restore the phone to factory state and remove all traces of root.
the ruu's are posted on the development thread.
Thanks nfinitefx45 you da man!
Ok, this might be a dumb question but i'm a G1 noob so forgive me!
I have a 1.6 G1 which I have rooted and I can get a serial using adb so I guess i am just about set to flash it, the Q is, what do i gain from flashing it, it the newer android much better & does it unlock the phone?
thanks
Jon
i'm not sure if my answer is most accurate or correct, but i think flashing allows your to have custom ROMs fitted for your phone.
If you consider Froyo and upgrade from Donut, then yes, you'll get the new android and much better.
It will not unlock the phone, you'll still need to buy an unlock code.
AdrianK said:
If you consider Froyo and upgrade from Donut, then yes, you'll get the new android and much better.
It will not unlock the phone, you'll still need to buy an unlock code.
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thanks for the reply,
So if i want Froyo then do I need to flash Donut 1st then? Is it right that once I have done that i can store apps onto the sd card as well?
The unlock part was a side q as I wondered if it was like my old xda's. not too worried tho as i have a ghost sim which does the job at a fraction of the cost
gsxf711 said:
thanks for the reply,
So if i want Froyo then do I need to flash Donut 1st then? Is it right that once I have done that i can store apps onto the sd card as well?
The unlock part was a side q as I wondered if it was like my old xda's. not too worried tho as i have a ghost sim which does the job at a fraction of the cost
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You do not need to flash Donut first, you just need to follow the instructions provided by the ROM developer, they are all a little bit different. ROMs since Android 1.0 have been able to store apps onto the SD card, it just depends what ROM you have. But yes, you will get Apps to SD on Froyo.
Just bear in mind that the G1's hardware is limited compared to today's standards, Froyo will not run as fast as 1.6 does.