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Is it possiable to have apps2sd w/o having root? Can I use my sd card as flash memory on my unrooted g1? I dont want to root my g1 untill i know for certain they are not going to be upgrading it. Plus i tried once but i kind of messed up but got lucky and got a new phone from htc. thanks.
No, you cannot
well being worried about an update is pointless because things come out here before they come form your carrier (aka over the air). and its very hard to f up your phone unless your trying to put hero on it. but no you cant have a2sd without root sorry. if u feel brave read one of the 12 or so tutorials and try it again.
I've been on XDA today for atleast 3 hours and havent gotten anywhere, I have owned my G1 since dec. 08, rooted it, and kept the firmware at 1.1. I have jesus freak recovery 1.41.
Like I said, I've been on XDA forums for 3 hours already and haven't had any clarity what so ever and am just frustrated right now. Without being 100% I managed to upgrade to 1.6 withy cyanogen 4.2.15.1 I lost everything that was on my phone, it hurts but I'm just frustrated to the point right now that the phone is functioning slower than before and theres lag between the screens and functions. With the upgrade, all of the phones original fucntions "contacts, alarm clock, calculator, etc." force closed and nothing worked, i tried to factory reset and because of the stupid sync issue from the begining skrewed me and about half of my info saved to my google account. I'm so frustrated right now.
I need to know how to install the newest recovery to hopefully work with Nand because I had to Manually rename the DRC83_base_defanged to update.zip and then had to manually rename update-cm-4.2.15.1-signed to update.zip to install each one at a time without having the ability to freely choose what zip i wanted to install.
I haven't been able to find what issues there are with using another phones firmware on the G1, i've seen the Hero firmware, the home screen looks gorgeous and runs like a dream, but I haven't been able to find anything saying that it is okay or a BAD idea to attempt to install it, also I havent been able to find any info on finding the newest g1 firmware or any mods to be able to make the g1 firmware look like the hero, or any other android platforms. I have just found constant cooked firmware after firmware with a hard time decyphering why one may be better than the other. If someone could help me, I would GREATLY appreciate it.
I continute to run into threads "how to root" or "down load this, and download this, and assuming you have something with options you dont have, make it work like this"
Please someone help.
First you need to upgrade your recovery b/c the one you have is very very Ancient with a capital A....You have to wipe before you flash the defanged then flash cyan w/o rebooting.
I want to upgrade my recovery, but I haven't found anything that can help me upgrade the thing. any links to tell me how to do it? and is there no order that I have to install the firmware? instead of having to go from 1.1 to 1.5 to 1.6, can i just go from 1.1 to 1.6 in one hit?
step 1: search the development forum for amon ra's recovery. read the instructions to flash it.
step 2: go to cyanogenmod.com and read the instructions for upgrading from scratch.
once you've done those two things, you'll be much happier.
maniacallyhappy said:
I want to upgrade my recovery, but I haven't found anything that can help me upgrade the thing. any links to tell me how to do it? and is there no order that I have to install the firmware? instead of having to go from 1.1 to 1.5 to 1.6, can i just go from 1.1 to 1.6 in one hit?
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You don't re-root when you need to change roms you just wipe in recovery mode
You need amon_ra
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4647751#post4647751
Like the other guys have said, upgrade to Amon_RA recovery. This allows you to flash updates from any filename, not just update.zip. The link is in my signature, or it's on the G1 Dev Forum in the sticky threads.
After that, boot into recovery and go to the Wipe section. Wipe all the things there, not just data. I never used to wipe everything either and I found that was the source of alot of my problems when changing ROMs. Obviously if you have your SD card partitioned and you choose to wipe your ext then you will lose what is on there.
Cyanogen has good instructions on his Wiki, but basically you want to flash DRC83_base_defanged, DO NOT reboot, and flash CM over the top straight away, then reboot your phone and you'll have a nice clean CM install.
This flashes the HTC Developer image which includes legal Google apps (Gmail, Maps, etc) and then flashes CM over the top which includes all his cool changes but does not delete the Google apps which we aren't supposed to distribute because it's illegal. Perhaps you are not aware, but Cyanogen got a Cease & Desist letter from Google, which is why we now do the defanged base method. More ROMs are moving to this method as time goes on, Pay's ROM and Super D are two which do this.
As an aside, I have found CM is not the fastest ROM. Some people have had better success with a ROM called Super D which is quite popular and includes many of the Eclair bits and pieces which CM does anyway. I personally use Dwang's ROM which is a much more plain Donut image however it absolutely flies. Both of these are linked in my sig, and are usually within the first few pages of the G1 Dev Forum anyway.
Thank you guys so much! I really appreciate how helpful the community has been. I've been having some issues with the the upgrading and maintaining because of my memory card slot dying out. A lot of the times the system will not register that I have my micro sd card in it or it'll say the sd card is blank. I just hope the phone lasts the extra 6 months till the end of my contract
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maniacallyhappy said:
I've been having some issues with the the upgrading and maintaining because of my memory card slot dying out. A lot of the times the system will not register that I have my micro sd card in it or it'll say the sd card is blank.
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I used to have this problem too, but it went away when I moved to 1.6 (coincidentally the same time I replaced the SD Card that came with my phone with a new Class 6 card). So either the upgrade of the OS or the SD Card fixed it.
In going to have to try the new men card cause the system is already at 1.6 but the phone is still trying to kill itself.
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Hey Guys, This is one of my first posts here, although I've been browsing this forum for months now. Thanks a ton you've made my hero experience 10 better.
Today I got a new class 6 sd from New egg. So I setup everything to be switched out from one card to the next, shut down, put in my new card, and rebooted like every other day.
When it booted it said invalid sd card.
So I shut down and tried to get the card out and its stuck. I think the spring mechanism is toast or something.
I have coverage thru Bestbuy, and I'm positive they will replace or fix it, I'm just worried they won't be happy about the root status.
So is there a way for me to push the non root rom to my phone with ADB?
How bout the boot loader?
I'm running Sprint Hero CDMA with DamageControl 2.08.1 with God Mode .29 kernel.
I really don't want to have to break my phone just to get it serviced. If anyone can help Thanks in advance.
just run the ruu it can restore the phone to factory state and remove all traces of root.
the ruu's are posted on the development thread.
Thanks nfinitefx45 you da man!
Ok, this might be a dumb question but i'm a G1 noob so forgive me!
I have a 1.6 G1 which I have rooted and I can get a serial using adb so I guess i am just about set to flash it, the Q is, what do i gain from flashing it, it the newer android much better & does it unlock the phone?
thanks
Jon
i'm not sure if my answer is most accurate or correct, but i think flashing allows your to have custom ROMs fitted for your phone.
If you consider Froyo and upgrade from Donut, then yes, you'll get the new android and much better.
It will not unlock the phone, you'll still need to buy an unlock code.
AdrianK said:
If you consider Froyo and upgrade from Donut, then yes, you'll get the new android and much better.
It will not unlock the phone, you'll still need to buy an unlock code.
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thanks for the reply,
So if i want Froyo then do I need to flash Donut 1st then? Is it right that once I have done that i can store apps onto the sd card as well?
The unlock part was a side q as I wondered if it was like my old xda's. not too worried tho as i have a ghost sim which does the job at a fraction of the cost
gsxf711 said:
thanks for the reply,
So if i want Froyo then do I need to flash Donut 1st then? Is it right that once I have done that i can store apps onto the sd card as well?
The unlock part was a side q as I wondered if it was like my old xda's. not too worried tho as i have a ghost sim which does the job at a fraction of the cost
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You do not need to flash Donut first, you just need to follow the instructions provided by the ROM developer, they are all a little bit different. ROMs since Android 1.0 have been able to store apps onto the SD card, it just depends what ROM you have. But yes, you will get Apps to SD on Froyo.
Just bear in mind that the G1's hardware is limited compared to today's standards, Froyo will not run as fast as 1.6 does.
So we just bought a nook color and she is still new to it. Obviously, she reads lots of books and I... well, want to make this into a tab and play w/ it. She might want to do web browsing and install some games/apps, but primarily will be used as an e-reader.
What rom (if any) do you suggest I flash? Or will I be better off just rooting the device and leaving it as is (w/ market)? She has no patience for developmental stuff so looking for something stable but also something I can play with
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So we just bought a nook color and she is still new to it. Obviously, she reads lots of books and I... well, want to make this into a tab and play w/ it. She might want to do web browsing and install some games/apps, but primarily will be used as an e-reader.
What rom (if any) do you suggest I flash? Or will I be better off just rooting the device and leaving it as is (w/ market)? She has no patience for developmental stuff so looking for something stable but also something I can play with
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Root the Stock and leave it. its the most stable rom.
Make your own SD card, running Nookie Froyo or CyanogenMod. When you take the card out and reboot, her machine is completely back to normal, or so I'm told. You both get to have what you want.
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!? if so... sweet, I saw sum tuts but still educating myself. Rooting and leaving stock is also a good idea, however I heard B&N is able to update your device thus losing root... Is this true?
For her, it sounds like just rooting would be the best option, since it has the market, all of the B&N features, and is stable. As mentioned above, running a ROM from the sd card is a good option for you. After rooting it, you could format the sd card used to root, and then load a ROM such as CM7, Froyo, or Honeycomb from the SD card to play with.
This way, she has her mostly stock setup, and you have your tablet setup that you can load by just popping in the sd card and rebooting. When you're done playing with it, power down, pop the sd card out, reboot, and it's back to her setup.
If you do decide to run a ROM from the sd card, make sure to get at least a class 4 (sandisk class 4 4GB works well for me). Then, if you find something that would work for both of you, you could look at flashing to internal EMMC for better speed/performance. Another option is dual-booting between ROMs, which you can find more about in the development section.
stevedawg85 said:
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!? if so... sweet, I saw sum tuts but still educating myself. Rooting and leaving stock is also a good idea, however I heard B&N is able to update your device thus losing root... Is this true?
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There is a thread in the dev section on how to block the updates. Here's a link to the sd card version of CM7 you asked about. You don't have to root first, but you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
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As suggested I'd root the stock software for the wife, and when you want to play choose a ROM that can run from the sdcard and you will be good to go.
Currently I run 4 different setups. Stock rooted on internal mem. Then I setup 3 different sdcards to mess around with Honeycomb, CM7, and Froyo from time to time.
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There is a thread in the dev section on how to block the updates. Here's a link to the sd card version of CM7 you asked about. You don't have to root first, but you can.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=989637
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You do not have to root it first. All you have to do is create a live SDcard with Clockwork ROM manager put the SDCard in and boot it up holding the n and the power button in > wipe > flash CM7.
With this device reading off the SD first you do not have "antonoot" first.
I've ran CM7, Honeycomb and a few others. My personal choice is stock rooted device is perfect.
stevedawg85 said:
I can run CM from SD card w/o rooting the device!?
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I know! I couldn't believe it was that easy either. I'm going to add a notice to my signature. This kind of great capability should be right in people's faces..
Nookiefroyo runs great off an SD card for me.
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Thanks for everyone's input...
She gonna be using it 75% of the time, so I decided to root and leave it as is. Everything works good. I tried to do nookie froyo off SD card but had too much trouble w/ adb, i'll save it for another week. But for now, stock root works good. Got Zeam and Home switcher to help both of us out
I wanted to point out the only downside of rooted stock is that she cannot use in the in-store B&N features! If she plans on using that (i've heard they have not only the hour of reading free, but also sometimes offer deals and events) then you might wanna not be rooted and use the SD card. I know this is a little late to tell you as you already did it, but I thought I'd let you know anyway.
stevedawg85 said:
Thanks for everyone's input...
She gonna be using it 75% of the time, so I decided to root and leave it as is. Everything works good. I tried to do nookie froyo off SD card but had too much trouble w/ adb, i'll save it for another week. But for now, stock root works good. Got Zeam and Home switcher to help both of us out
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I'll throw this in for whenever you feel like creating a bootable SD CARD to play with. I've found that higher class sd cards make a much bigger difference in how fast/well the rom operates than you might think.