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Question on using the extended ROM properly

I'm just starting to get into the depths of my PDA2K and this site is GREAT!!!!!!! Since I'm just one step up from "The Village Idiot", I have a couple questions for all you pros.
After reading about using the extended ROM, and unlocking it and seeing what's in there, I think I've figured it out. Whatever CABs are listed in the config file will be installed upon a hard reset....correct? If true, and since I have only 3.5MB left in Ex ROM, can I put the other CABs I wanted installed in say /storage/CABs, list them in the config file and upon a hard reset they will be installed? Is there any reason to put them into Extended ROM rather than Storage? Is it alright to put CABs in from like games, Resco Explorer, WebIS Mail, etc.? Lastly is there a way to set the programs up where I don't have to go back and enter all the registration numbers again?
Thanks a ton for your help!!!
Tom

In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.

cruisin-thru said:
In extended rom they are not taking up your precious storage space on the device.
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is it possible then to keep the installation cabs on storage card,
and also, can that path be set in the config file in ext rom?
what happens if a particular cab is not found after hard reset?
is the installation stuck or it just gives a warning and keeps on going to the next cab listed in the list.

Have a read of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=83119#83119
It might be a bit to deep but should help you along the way.
1) You can keep a cab anywere you want
2) make sure your cab is read only as it can delete itsself after install.
3) to run a auto install from a differnet storage place you need to hack the reg (see thread).
In all if you have a sd card you could leave your EXt rom empty.
Hack the reg to the new postion and run the Autorun from there.
Have fun

Thanks for all the infor everyone! From what I've read in other threads I need to make sure that TPdisabled is set to off so that when programs like WebIS Mail and SplashID get installed I can touch the screen to make sure they install into the right place and other things. Correct? If this is correct, should I just remove TPdisabled all together?
Thanks again,
Tom

TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem

MDAIIIUser - Thanks for the link! I looked at it and you're right, it's pretty indepth and I'll have to read it more closely at a later time....like at work.
Question1: leochan2005 had a follow-up saying "why not use backup"? While I agree this would be easier, I'm assuming that by using your method one would get a much "cleaner" install than backing up all the crap that was on the system prior to the hard reset...correct?
Question2: It took me a long time to get my TMo settings setup on my PDA2K and I don't want to go thru that again. Is there a way to backup those settings so that they can be auto-configured at a later time? I read about making a personalsettings.CAB but haven't done it yet.
Thanks,
Tom

MDAIIIUser said:
TPdisabled can't be set off, its either run or not run. So dump it and you wont have a problem
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Thanks! I take it it should be at the beginning of the config file so that I can access it. Correct?

q1)
Well the short of "why not use backup" is you can if you feel that:
1) Restoring Regedit values from a lower rom version
2) Restoring system applications form a lower rom version such as BT
are called for, wanted or even needed.
I fail to see that point as a upgrade is an upgrade and a backup is a backup. Now you could do a restore of your system data also (which you could also sync and that would be clean
Q2)
Most fo those settings are part of T-mobile.cabs found in Extrom, the rest would have been reg entries that you are going to have to hunt for and copy.
So sorry no way around reading the other thread (personalsettings.CAB)

MDAIIIUser - Maybe I should state what I'm trying to accomplish and you could give me a clue as to how to do it. A couple days ago I upgraded by BT on my PDA2K (generic from Expansys) to 1.0.0.3900 (or what ever the latest is) and I'm currently looking at upgrading my radio to 1.12, but that would require a hard reset. I'm not in the mood to go thru all the program installs and SMS/MMS tweaking again, so I'm trying to figure out the best way to get all my programs and configurations back after the hard reset. I thought by incorporating the personalsettings.cab (for my Tmo settings) and your method I would be up and running pretty quickly. Yes? I have Sprite Backup, but I'm not sure if that's going to overwrite anything after the radio upgrade????
Thoughts?
Thanks!

Well my logic (that could be wrong) would say that a restore of your backup would get you to were you are now.
That you would need a restore as you have to do a hard reset after the 1.12 radion install.
But I can't answer the question will the radio be restored as well,
I don't know, I don't know the settings in the backup application, so am sorry I will have to let somebody else answer this one.

Upgrading to NBD 9.0, need to backup contacts

hello all!
Im upgrading to nbd 8.0 today and Ive backed up my pda with spb and spirte. my question to you all is, I need to backup my contacts and all that jazz for the upgrade. what's a good pim backup that will restore after a rom upgrade?
EDIT: I apologize about the title, I submitted without reviewing and had a typo in the title, which I cannot correct. thank you
Thank you all,
Flip
ps. contacts and sms, tasks/appt are the only things I wanna restore on the new rom

First, the title of the thread says NBD 9.0 which doesn't exist. it might not be a big deal but may lead some to read this thread by mistake (maybe that's what you want )
Second, doing a little search wouldn't hurt. http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=4015233 i just used two words (PIM* AND backup)
It's called "PIM Backup" by dotfred (v2.5 by now) and it can be considered a standard application as most cooks include it in their ROMs. It's filled with options, scheduling, etc...

mestrini said:
First, the title of the thread says NBD 9.0 which doesn't exist. it might not be a big deal but may lead some to read this thread by mistake (maybe that's what you want )
Second, doing a little search wouldn't hurt. http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=4015233 i just used two words (PIM* AND backup)
It's called "PIM Backup" by dotfred (v2.5 by now) and it can be considered a standard application as most cooks include it in their ROMs. It's filled with options, scheduling, etc...
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LMAO the title I didnt do on purpose it was an honest mistake.
as for pim backup, I knwo there are plenty and plenty of apps that do pim backup out there. my question really is, can I restore it on nbd 8.0 even though I will no longer be on the official 2m5 cingular rom and all?
Thank you very much

No! Don't use backup programs to backup PIM from WM5 to WM6 (At least for SPB Backup), it doesn't work and the contacts will not show correctly in WM6.
You should use PIM Backup or ActiveSync+Outlook.

Upgrading to MW6.1. Any problems with back-up?

I plan to update the OS of my TyTN II from WM6.0 to 6.1.
I regularly back-up my files with Sprite Back-up.
My question is, will there be any issues (incompatibility etc) with restoring my back-up files to the new OS?
On that note, will the programs I used to have in WM6.0 (e.g. TCPMP, TouchFlo cube from XDA forums etc) be still compatible with WM6.1? Will I be able to re-install them without issues?
TIA
rigel

Only if you have a new enough version of Sprite Back-up
rigelstuff said:
I plan to update the OS of my TyTN II from WM6.0 to 6.1.
I regularly back-up my files with Sprite Back-up.
My question is, will there be any issues (incompatibility etc) with restoring my back-up files to the new OS?
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There will be issues unless you get (possibly at cost) a new enough version of Sprite backup. The freebie version included on the HTC CDROM may complain if you try this and only handles restores and backups within the same OS. Someone posted about exactly this issue here on 23/7.... will search for that thread.
***Edit*** Here is that thread but read what it mentions about cross OS back-ups and restores not working with everything (except things like personal folders, contacts etc).
Problem after installing WM6.1
Personally when ever I upgrade an OS on any device I always reinstall software from scratch and check the software apps compatibility with the new OS before doing so at the software publishers website.
***Edit 2*** Changed subject and content to reflect possibly not the very latest version still being OK. Latest post after this one (to check manual) is good advice.

I have Sprite 6 and it is fully compatible with WM 6.1. If you have Sprite WM2005 I THINK you can still do a back up and restore but need to go through a process of getting an upgrade file first. IIRC the Sprite User Guide details the process under 'Advanced Mode'. If not, the Sprite site has it under their FAQs re WM2005.

Hi!
May I join in ?
has anyone discovered any other issues?
I use CE-Star, and check email via an Exchange Server.
Is ugrading to 6.1 really beneficial ?
Back to my searching...
ofiaich

Now that I've thought about it...
Much thanks Flying Kiwi
After thinking about it, and reading that other thread, I'm thinking I don't really need the Sprite backup. I mean, the really important stuff (contacts, e-mail, tasks/schedules/calendar) are already in my laptop, and I could just do a sync after I upgrade to 6.1, right?
Come to think of it, what other stuff exactly is in the Sprite backup file? All the other stuff like music, pictures and whatnot are in my memory card. Will 6.1 recoginse all those files in my microSD? Or do I have to sync all my music from WMP all over again?
I don't mind having to re-install all the other applications. I'm also just wondering if they would also be compatible with 6.1.
Pardon the "amatureish" questions. I'm all new at this
Flying Kiwi said:
There will be issues unless you get (possibly at cost) a new enough version of Sprite backup. The freebie version included on the HTC CDROM may complain if you try this and only handles restores and backups within the same OS. Someone posted about exactly this issue here on 23/7.... will search for that thread.
***Edit*** Here is that thread but read what it mentions about cross OS back-ups and restores not working with everything (except things like personal folders, contacts etc).
Problem after installing WM6.1
Personally when ever I upgrade an OS on any device I always reinstall software from scratch and check the software apps compatibility with the new OS before doing so at the software publishers website.
***Edit 2*** Changed subject and content to reflect possibly not the very latest version still being OK. Latest post after this one (to check manual) is good advice.
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I'm on a mission to update my ROM, and I've been reading/thinking about it, and I have come to the following conclusions.. Hopefully if I'm wrong on any of them, someone can say so..
I'll backup my SMS and PIM data. PIM data should sync back over, SMS will not, so I'll need to restore that.
Update HardSPL. I don't know what version I have, but I'll put the latest suggested for WM 6.1 (3.56 I believe)
I'll take Sprite Pro, and download a copy of my stock ROM and Radio and put those three files on my SD card, so if all else fails, I can just go right back the way I was. (Right??)
Write down all of my *must have* apps, make sure I have their cabs and put them and licensing info on my SD card for easy reinstall. And what ones I can save settings on or write down the settings, do that so I have it.
Hard reset, install new ROM (I think I'm going with ROMEOS) and Radio (1.65.20.xx I think it was I decided on for GPS, battery etc), hard reset again.
Tilt specific settings will go away, but there's a thread on that by redbandana that's great. So restore some cabs there to fix that back.
Install my minmum required apps and reconfigure them, make sure it's all working, configured, get synced back up with Outlook, etc.. Once that's done, make a backup with Sprite Pro.
Reinstall auxillary stuff, but I'm going to try (my best!!) to minimize this, as it makes a mess and seems to cause problems. Right now my Tilt has no notifications (not Opera related), no LEDs (thus TT7 doesn't work), and some general weirdness sometimes.
Hopefully by doing this I'll have two complete setups.. the WM6.1 setup installed and backed up on the SD card. Also my current WM6.0 setup that I could return to by hard reset, install 6.0 ROM and radio and run backup file if all else fails.
So in the end, I could swap between my current WM6.0 and new WM6.1 without a lot of hassle if I needed to, but hopefully I won't need to.
Hope this isn't considered thread crapping, but seems relevant to most people migrating to 6.1 and are unsure about the process (as I am stll myself)

Free Backup Tool?

Hi...
This is probably a very "noob" question, but I was just wandering if there were any free tools for backing up my phone (want to update my ROM, but dont really want to shell out for a tool to back up)
All I want to back up are my contacts, pictures, programs and possibly SMS(if that's possible?

PIM Backup - Contacts and SMS
Pictures - Are they not set to Internal Storage by default. Which is not touched by ROM upgrades
Programs - Install to Internal storage and keep cabs in a directory in Internal Storage. I have found that in the main a reinstall of a cab to Internal picks up settings

boch501 said:
Hi...
This is probably a very "noob" question, but I was just wandering if there were any free tools for backing up my phone (want to update my ROM, but dont really want to shell out for a tool to back up)
All I want to back up are my contacts, pictures, programs and possibly SMS(if that's possible?
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Even though you might call yourself a "noob" you can still search for answers, before posting something you know has been discussed plenty.
PIM works great for contacts and sms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299705
Enjoy!

As the answer was easy to find; and also provided by helpfull members:
Thread closed.

How to easy upgrade to 6.5 or pay for it

LS
Being a high-end user of telephones, I would like to upgrade my X1 to WM 6.5. But I am not a programmer, do not understand many of the 'slang' being used and... work on a Aplle Macintosh. So, without experience of "flashing" and "ROMing" and with absence of a Windows computer, I wonder what the best and easiest way is for me to update to WM 6.5
- I can make a backup of the phone
- I can acces the Micro-card
- I would like a very (!) clear discription of what-to-do with plug-and-play links and so
- I also am willing to pay someone (in NH Netherlands) to update the phone.
Hope to hear from one,
greetings Frank

it needs no programming skills
please see here for nice video tutorials on how to flash a rom
its dead simple
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497511

you WILL need a windows computer to Hard-SPL
however flashing roms and radio after that can be done through the memory card!

for the process of flashing view the video tutorials posted above.
You have to do a backup of all your saves, stats, documents etc. on the internal phone Memory. Registry Entries have to be saved, too. For saving contacts use PIM Backup. thats the most common.
Its like getting a new pc but you can keep your hard drive.
There are programms like Sahimi that do automatic backups of all your files, registry entries, etc. but you have to write a config file and know where everything is saved. thats more for "advanced" users.

fpd5 said:
LS
Being a high-end user of telephones, I would like to upgrade my X1 to WM 6.5. But I am not a programmer, do not understand many of the 'slang' being used and... work on a Aplle Macintosh.
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Hmmm... why being a "high-end user" make you want to flash (i.e. modify your Operating System) a 6.5 ROM? From the business-man point of view, I do not see any advanced feature, nor I see if you are a heavy caller.
Moreover, flashing a 6.5 ROM will void your warranty. Please remember that 6.5 is not official for X1, and you can have some bugs (99% of time you won't, but...).
So I really recommend you to stay with your 6.1 ROM, unless you can point out the main, great advantages of having a 6.5 ROM for a business use.
P.S.: you will need a Microsoft PC to Hard-SPL (i.e. make your phone accept non-official ROMs)
P.P.S.: flashing a ROM is REALLY easy:
1)download a 6.5 ROM
2) rename it Kovsimg.nbh
3) transfer it to your SD card
4) switch off the phone
5) press simultaneously the power button and the two volume buttons on X1 right
6) That's all!