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Tmobile wing programs

What programs do you have on your T-mobile Wing?
I have HTC Home Customizer, Pocket Brush, Sbp Time, Picsel Browser, S2U2, PocketCM Keyboard and Contacts, psShutXP, and Battery Status

I just got my phone replaced yesterday, so I haven't installed everything the way I want it yet... but so far ..
BatteryStatus
Memmaid
PocketMechanic
Minimo
Opera
Pocket XM Radio
Lovely Shot
Resco Explorer / Registry
Spb mobile Shell
Spb Phone Suite
Spb backup
Spb Clone
Spb Finance
Spb GPRS monitor
Spb Imageer
Spb Insight
Spb Time
Spb Traveler
Spb Wallet
Spb Weather
Currently experimenting with :
Fring
Webmessenger

SPB Weather, Battery Status, Softkey Changer, um, i think thats it right now. how does that HTC Home work? i see all this stuff about it but i never see any links to (except modded 5 tabs or more ones) or how to install it. is it just a cab or does it require modding?

wyldstallyns2589 said:
SPB Weather, Battery Status, Softkey Changer, um, i think thats it right now. how does that HTC Home work? i see all this stuff about it but i never see any links to (except modded 5 tabs or more ones) or how to install it. is it just a cab or does it require modding?
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Just read this. It's a cab file that you need to install. Its near the bottom of the post (the htc home plugin). I used the customizer to change the default music player to htc audiomanager. But you can customize everything with HTC HOme customizer.

Huh. Duprade, i don't know about minimo. It's more than a little unstable and uses ALOT of memory. If you're not opposed to paying money (as evident from all your SPB programs), you should use opera.

fzzyrn said:
Huh. Duprade, i don't know about minimo. It's more than a little unstable and uses ALOT of memory. If you're not opposed to paying money (as evident from all your SPB programs), you should use opera.
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He has that in his list too.

Oh. i guess i sorta assumed he meant opera mini. Full blown Opera is the way to go. Dunno why one would have Minimo AND Opera, though. I would never even USE minimo, not after the mini disaster unpleasantness.

fzzyrn said:
Oh. i guess i sorta assumed he meant opera mini. Full blown Opera is the way to go. Dunno why one would have Minimo AND Opera, though. I would never even USE minimo, not after the mini disaster unpleasantness.
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I agree minimo is a disaster and the worst memory monger I have ever seen and yes opera is the way to go

S2U2, TouchFLO, BatteryStatus, Ilumni Screen Capture, PIE Plus

S2U2, Batterystatus, Magicall, PHM, HTC audio manager, PocketCM

opera is my main browser.
I just have minimo for the hell of it. I've always supported mozilla products, and I just like to play around with it, but I agree it isn't all that good. But as Mike pointed out, if you look thru the list, Opera is on there.
first of all, you're assuming they are all registered. My original post says I just had my phone replaced yesterday, so they could all be under trial.
second, assuming they were all registered, maybe :
I'm loaded
I make good money where I work
I'm a trust fund kid
Mom & dad are loaded...
Maybe I own SPB
Maybe I'm a psychic, and I guess the serial numbers...
hahaha...the possibilities are endless..

duprade said:
opera is my main browser.
I just have minimo for the hell of it. I've always supported mozilla products, and I just like to play around with it, but I agree it isn't all that good. But as Mike pointed out, if you look thru the list, Opera is on there.
first of all, you're assuming they are all registered. My original post says I just had my phone replaced yesterday, so they could all be under trial.
second, assuming they were all registered, maybe :
I'm loaded
I make good money where I work
I'm a trust fund kid
Mom & dad are loaded...
Maybe I own SPB
Maybe I'm a psychic, and I guess the serial numbers...
hahaha...the possibilities are endless..
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Duprade, I believe that you're the filthy rich loaded psychic owner of SPB that has a second job that also pays you alot of money, which your loaded parents feels proud that they've given you several trust funds just in case if you made less than a quarter of a billion dollars a year.
I agree, Opera browser is the way to go, I just have to free up some space, as I am also installing other interesting apps for other phone threads on this site. And I tried the minimo and it ate up memory in my device like hummers drink gas. Decision decisions.

Ouch. IF you're the psychic owner of SPB whose parents are rich, i'm george bush.
But then again.....this is the internet.

ooo! I just thought of this one! Another conclusion I could have mentioned would have been that I'm a secret agent, and I broke into SPB headquarters, and stole all the serial numbers along with the N.O.C. list of all SPB employees who are living and posting on XDA's site under assumed identities.
I had to get past the voice activated security scan, followed by the retina scan just to get in... then once in the room, I had to negotiate the obstacles inside : First is voice sensitive, anything above a whisper, will set it off. The second one senses the temperature even the body heat of an unauthorized person in the room can set it off if the temperature rises by a single degree. The temperature is controlled by an air duct system 30 feet above the floor. The vent is guarded by a laser net. The third one is on the floor, and it's pressure sensitive. Just the slightest increase in weight will set it off. If any of these 3 sensors are set off will trigger an automatic lock down. Let me tell you gentlemen, that all 3 systems, are state of the art.
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Well i guess i'll have to designate you an enemy combatant. I hear guantanamo's nice this time of year. haha.
This is crazy offtopic

hmmmm yes very off topic.
But in thread matters, I suggest PIEplus to you david.

Oxios Memory
Oxios Hibernate!
A must have for all Wing users.
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
Just run it whenever you like and gain back some memory.

I tried PIEPlus once, months ago... but I can't remember why I didn't like it, and then I found Opera and I started using it instead.

lets see
wisebar advance3
wisbar advance desktop
spb mobile shell
weatherpanel(marsware)
rarlab pocket rar
ppc psShutXp
total commander
battery status
SkTools
resco keyboard
coreplayer
icontacts v.0.3
i also had pocket breeze and memaid on ther but took em off i wasnt realy putting pocket breeze to good use but it is a great app and i replaced memaid with sktools memmaid is also a great app but once i got sktools i wasnt realy using memmaid anymore

where can i get battery status?
where can i get battery status and how?

New home screen from wm6.1?

I see all of these roms for 6.1 everywhere...but none of them make mention of the new sliding panel home screen. Do any of these include that? Better yet, does anyone have a cab of the new home screen?
It's been rumored that the new US touch dual will have the new wm6.1 os pre-installed, but obviously that can't be substantiated yet.
So, anyone, new home screen?

new home screen
I was wondering the same thing. The articles all show the new look home screen, but the ROMs all seem to have the old one. I'm not complaining as I appreciate all the work done by the chefs. I'm just curious about the new look that is detailed in the press releases.

True. It's a huge process making these roms, so credit where credit is due. However, seeing how there isn't any MAJOR changes to the os, the only thing of any real interest to me is the home screen. I think an interface change would be nice...

Everything I've seen on the sliding home-type front end states it's only for Smartphone rather than Pocket PC - that's why nobody's building it into their ROMs!
Shame, I thought it looked quite nice, but IMHO 6.1 is mostly centred around improving the Smartphone experience and trying to bring it closer to the standard PPC has set.

Correct, it's only a feature for Smartphone Editions (no touchscreen).
Actually, You can download the Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional and Smartphone Images from Microsoft's website and see it for yourself.
However, I do think that's a shame not to have it implemented on Professional devices.
Cheers!
RayanMX

Well that's lame. I have a touch screen device, but I often find it much easier to navigate using the d-pad. It would be nice to have an interface like on the standard os, even if it's just for aesthetics. :-/

InGeNeTiCs said:
Well that's lame. I have a touch screen device, but I often find it much easier to navigate using the d-pad. It would be nice to have an interface like on the standard os, even if it's just for aesthetics. :-/
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MS is focusing on that in WM7. But WM6.1 is mostly cosmetics - no huge changes. At least not in the Pro version.

Windows 6.1 interface ?

Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !

ABstar said:
Where i'm find the interface presented for windows mobile 6.1 like http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2008/06/03/customizing-the-sliding-panel-homescreen.aspx this ??? txs a lot !
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If you read the thing it says
The built in plug-in names are:
1) CClock – The big clock
2) CAppointments - The calendar plugin
3) CHome – The notifications plugin
4) CMyPhotos – The photos plugin
5) CMessage – The message center (this is off by default on all sliding panel built in layouts.
6) CMusic – The music plugin
7) Settings – The settings plug-in
8) Custom Plugins – Users can specify custom plug-ins with static content that can be displayed on the home screen.
Just search and download those plugins and you can get it

Where i'm download ?

ABstar said:
Where i'm download ?
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Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)

johanromijn said:
Your Kaiser is running WM6.1 Professional.
What you see there is WM6.1 Standard (non-touchscreen)
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He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them

So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?

jimlivingston said:
So are there any ROMS that use the new interface?
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No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).

Ah I see, I read that backward in my head. Damn dyslexia!
That interface would be very nice if it was finger friendly
I have tried throttle launcher and pointui, both of which were lacking. Does anyone know of other UIs?

livefastdiefun87 said:
He should still be able to run the plugins though . Just obviously no touchscreen support.
@ OP here is a good place to find them
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There's a difference between Home plugins and Today plugins.
Frankly, I'm a little disappointed with WM6.1 Pro. WM6.1 Std is the best thing since sliced bread. Totally revitalises the crippled smartphone interface.
What did 6.1 do for Pro?

Yea I agree. 6.1 Pro looks and acts much the same as 6.0. After seeing all the screenshots and videos of 6.1 Standard that my expectations were relatively high for Pro. To make matter worse my brother-in-law just showed off his iPhone 3G today. Its interface is so much smoother and user friendly than what I can get for my Tilt. I guess MS still thinks a stylus is better than a finger; I disagree.
Oh well, I guess we can't have our cake and eat it too!

NotATreoFan said:
No. As stated above, this interface is for Windows Mobile 6.1 Standard, for non-touchscreen smartphones only. Since you would only see a pretty picture with no touch response, cooks will not bother to include it in their ROMs (not a bad thing).
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I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...

reonan said:
I think I'd rather have a useful, goodlooking today screen that I use with the hardware buttons than a bunch of plugins that dont really do exactly what you want them to anyways. Dont you think so? I'm starting to get fed up with HTC Home...
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I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.

NotATreoFan said:
I already gave up on HTC Home. I haven't even installed it on the last 5+ flashes. I agree with the sentiment in several other threads that Microsoft really screwed-the-pooch on 6.1 Professional with regards to interface upgrades (read: none), but I also wouldn't want my Today screen to be filled up with icons I cannot tap for a response.
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What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).

bennyj71 said:
What other today screen have you been using? I tried HTC, Winterface, Point UI( both version). I was thinking about the Touch Xperience(?).
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I don't use anything. Just the default WM Home Screen.

Benefits of 6.5 over 6.1

Good day all,
OK Can someone explain the benefits of 6.5 over 6.1? is it more stable? does it run faster? I am currently using PROven's ROM with 6.1. I love it. I am not a big fan of the look of 6.5 and would probably want to run it with Rhodiums TF3D on it. Is it worth upgrading if you dont really want the different interface?
Thanks in advance for any advice. I also apologize if this is somewhere (I am sure it has been discussed) and I just have not found/overlooked it.
Regards,
SoBBie
PS One last question... I noticed in a few ROMs that they are windows mobile 6.5 with both types of interfaces (the list of items and Rhoduims TF3D). Can someone explain to me how it can use both? would you have to turn off TF3D? is TF3D just one item in the list?

There are lots of benefits. One being that Windows Mobile 6.5 is now natively supports finger friendly swipes and gestures which are A LOT better then the TouchFlo gesture. Now you can swipe left/right to move through tabs, and everything is more finger friendly.
An example of this is the new Homescreen and the new Start menu. Many of the default apps have been rewritten to utilize the new finger gestures.
Also the menu systems have been updated to give bigger finger friendly areas to click on.
And it is pretty fast... really fast actually. Alot of the new OS uses transparencies and fade-in animations that really require a solid 2D performance from the graphics driver. I've found really good frame rates in games because of this.
It is heavily customizable too. All of the graphics are easily changeable. There are already a lot of creative skins coming out for WM6.5.
Overall it feels similar to WM6.1 but there are a lot of new toys to play with. The new native finger scrolling is fantastic and very "iphone" like. Once you play with Wm6.5 you'll never go back.
You can run all of your custom homescreens and such if you want... but I really like the default WM6.5 homescreen. Your question about running both the default homescreen and TF3D... I believe the answer is TF3D Detacher or using "Second Today". Using both would be overkill, since both do the exact same function (Weather, Shortcuts, Time, Pictures, Music, Calendar, Settings, etc).
There are some awesome themes though... I wouldn't jump to TF3D too fast. Check this theme out. It's what I'm currently using and it's awesome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=504716
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Once you play with Wm6.5 you'll never go back.
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Not true of everyone. Personally I prefer 6.1 start menu and have not been able to find a way of changing the 6.5 one. To me 6.5 is nothing but a bunch of useless eye candy that's not worth the memory and battery drain. Even with disabling chrome and TF3D running nothing but a blank start screen battery still drains quicker. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Best way to find out is to try it yourself and see which one you prefer

OK First let me say thank you for the quick response. I do see that TF3d and winmo6.5 have the same functions. Correct me if I am wrong but isn't that view just Titanium? Doesnt that act like TF3D? cant that just be disabled and allow me to use TF3D on it. I personally like the TF3D interface better. I like to be able to see a few appointments along with the time and notifications. From what I have seen I would have ot tap on the cal to view any appointments... otherwise I would just see the word Calendar.... not very useful to me.
So I should ask this question, can we get windows mobile 6.5 with ONLY TF3d? and if you take away the "Titanium" (to me that is a today screen) what are the benefits of 6.5?
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks again for your response,
SoBBie

wshader said:
Not true of everyone. Personally I prefer 6.1 start menu and have not been able to find a way of changing the 6.5 one. To me 6.5 is nothing but a bunch of useless eye candy that's not worth the memory and battery drain. Even with disabling chrome and TF3D running nothing but a blank start screen battery still drains quicker. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Best way to find out is to try it yourself and see which one you prefer
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Yes I know trying is probably the best way. I, like you, do not like the layout of 6.5. to me it doesn't show me the information that I want and I dont know if it would (until I try of course). I was hoping that I could get 6.5 explained more and my first post didn't word it correctly. As mentioned above I was hoping that titanium was just a today screen (like TF3D) which could be turned off. If it is not (which is what it sounds like) then I will most likely stick with 6.1.
Thanks again for your advice.
SoBBie

wshader said:
Not true of everyone. Personally I prefer 6.1 start menu and have not been able to find a way of changing the 6.5 one. To me 6.5 is nothing but a bunch of useless eye candy that's not worth the memory and battery drain. Even with disabling chrome and TF3D running nothing but a blank start screen battery still drains quicker. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Best way to find out is to try it yourself and see which one you prefer
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I absolutely agree with wshader here. I spent a couple days with 6.5 and could not get over not having my old start menu, recent programs list, etc. It took more work to do the things that I used to do with ease. It definitely was pretty though.

The main benefits for me is the gesture improvements over touchflo. Touchflo just stinks in comparison..
I don't use TF3d or the new wm65 menus - spb mobile shell it's my primary shell, and all I need on here.. give it a try if you haven't..
-mark

supersobbie said:
Yes I know trying is probably the best way. I, like you, do not like the layout of 6.5. to me it doesn't show me the information that I want and I dont know if it would (until I try of course). I was hoping that I could get 6.5 explained more and my first post didn't word it correctly. As mentioned above I was hoping that titanium was just a today screen (like TF3D) which could be turned off. If it is not (which is what it sounds like) then I will most likely stick with 6.1.
Thanks again for your advice.
SoBBie
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I know everybody else didn't answer your question, so I will . Yes, you can enable TF3D to be the only home screen running, and "Titanium" is able to be shut off. You can put any home screen you want.
Hope that answers your question!

wshader said:
Not true of everyone. Personally I prefer 6.1 start menu and have not been able to find a way of changing the 6.5 one. To me 6.5 is nothing but a bunch of useless eye candy that's not worth the memory and battery drain. Even with disabling chrome and TF3D running nothing but a blank start screen battery still drains quicker. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
Best way to find out is to try it yourself and see which one you prefer
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the above post is very *right* and very wrong at the same time...
1. the start menu is different and can take some getting used to, but it IS customizable
2. this dude either had a bad flash or is lying about memory and battery usage.....BOTH ARE GREATLY IMPROVED IN 6.5.
3. the best thing you can do it to flash a 6.5 rom yourself and try it out...
i personally love 6.5 and will not be going back to 6.1. the benefits far outweigh the flaws. i will note, that 6.5 does have one major flaw that noone else seemed to mention....
all roms that i have tried thus far have a "corrupt ringtone" issue, which will cause WMA files set for text msg notification/ringer to simply not play sometimes....i've missed many a text because of this.....a simple solution is to make your own mp3 ringers.

yerp said:
i will note, that 6.5 does have one major flaw that noone else seemed to mention....
all roms that i have tried thus far have a "corrupt ringtone" issue, which will cause WMA files set for text msg notification/ringer to simply not play sometimes....i've missed many a text because of this.....a simple solution is to make your own mp3 ringers.
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Interesting, I noticed the same thing with my .wav ringtone. Must be the same issue. Good to know.
Back on topic - I agree with yerp, 6.5 is a keeper. No battery drain or memory consumption issues. Keep in mind everything is relative because of the number of custom roms and personal touches associated with each rom. Some battery drains and memory leaks are rom specific and not related to 6.5. Also, some programs just create havoc and have nothing to do with the rom. You need to test and stick with what works best. I have certain chefs I stick with, test others occasionally, but usually go back to the chefs I have had the best luck with.

I would agree to suppersobbie,
I love the classic WinMo today screen. It gives me a lot of information, ie: data traffic, appointment(s), and many more. It all completely basic, but necessary!
I have seen the Titanium Red Flaming theme, I forgot what it is, but it made me wanted to flash my rom.
I own HTC TouchPro, WWE rom, if I managed to flash my original TP, where can I download my original rom in case I want to reflashed it back to WM6.1?
I bought my TP in WM Store, it's official partner of Microsoft. the ROM is quite stable and everything work fine. Even it pre-installed with working youtube application,,, I will definitely missed this great rom if I flashed it.
I tried to google for this rom I had,,, but zilch,,, nothing shows up,,,

oh here, I found the kickass theme that made me to flash my TP, it called crimson darkness,,, haha it's not even flamming,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506925
seriously I want this on my phone,,,

OK first let me say thank you to everyone that has responded... And yes I was looking to know if there are improvements overall, which from a few people they say yes. It is also good to know the ringtone issue which I am sure would get annoying.
From what I can tell I will probably start to weed through the 6.5 ROMs and give it a try. I may even try to "cook" my first rom because they are never build exactly the way you want them. But if it improves TF3D performance (guestures) and I can use TF3D and not use Titanium I will give it a try. Who knows I may even try the titanium for a little while and see if I like it.
I did try spb Mobile shell 3 and found I did not like it... I posted my response to MS3 somewhere but it was not what I was looking for and was not as impressed with it as many were (Oh and I was a HUGE MS2 fan, with Greatbal's touchflow theme ) The thing that I did like about MS3 was the response... it was very very responsive which I did like.
Well I do appreciate everyones response and thanks again for ALL the great feedback.
SoBBie
PS this was my post on MS3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3684350&postcount=60

hah, me too,,, I dislike SPB MS 3.0 because it drains my fone battery for only about 16 hours,,, gawd,,, and I use my fone mainly for native MS pushmail, RSS download, and personal secretary,,,
I have found my original ROM, someone dumped it, surething that google is useful, and it will be more useful if you enter the correct stuff you want to find
Get ready to flash my TP,,,

supersobbie said:
OK first let me say thank you to everyone that has responded... And yes I was looking to know if there are improvements overall, which from a few people they say yes. It is also good to know the ringtone issue which I am sure would get annoying.
From what I can tell I will probably start to weed through the 6.5 ROMs and give it a try. I may even try to "cook" my first rom because they are never build exactly the way you want them. But if it improves TF3D performance (guestures) and I can use TF3D and not use Titanium I will give it a try. Who knows I may even try the titanium for a little while and see if I like it.
I did try spb Mobile shell 3 and found I did not like it... I posted my response to MS3 somewhere but it was not what I was looking for and was not as impressed with it as many were (Oh and I was a HUGE MS2 fan, with Greatbal's touchflow theme ) The thing that I did like about MS3 was the response... it was very very responsive which I did like.
Well I do appreciate everyones response and thanks again for ALL the great feedback.
SoBBie
PS this was my post on MS3: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3684350&postcount=60
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by the way ENERGYROM 3.0 looks very good, comes with TF3D and no titanium, packed with tools, but if You want to try titatium then You have to look to other roms.

Bottom line for me is it IS faster in my opinion that 6.1 and the battery is MUCH better.

rorijam said:
by the way ENERGYROM 3.0 looks very good, comes with TF3D and no titanium, packed with tools, but if You want to try titatium then You have to look to other roms.
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Hummmm Energies ROM removed Titanium.... interesting.... Well I just flashed RRE ROM with manila (didn't realize it was not TF3D2 Rhodium but installing that now). Yea I played with Titanium for about 10 minutes this morning... NOT impressed at all. There is no info on the screen. to me it is kinda lame. I am sure you can configure it and play with it to make it a little better but TF3D2 works for me.
I will see how the Rhodium installs on RRE Rom and if I like it I may shoot over and try Energy's ROM. I have read that Energies ROM is a "Ferrari" and it eats up battery so not sure I would want that. even if the performance is better it would have to be significantly better for me to stick with it.
Thanks again all....
SoBBie

Here's my 2cents.
I liked the Touchflo3d, including the Rhodium etc. I kept loading it on my roms. I made cabs to fix annoyances etc. Customized stuff etc. Bottom line is TF3d is another wow app that fails at organizing my stuff. I wanted all the appts etc, easier way to customize my inportant info. But in the end it drained my battery, froze up, if I disabled it, everything ran faster plus freed a ton of memory. File explorer worked 100 times faster since I didn't have 5000 added files to my windows folder and the list can go on.
CHome displays my today stuff much nicer than 6.1 did. With a few add on's, I easily and light on files/memory now have
Pictures
Music
Phone
Voicemail
Favorite People
Weather
Time/Date
Text
EMail
Calendar w/appts etc.
IE w/favorites
Windows Live
And more comes out daily for widgets for your own needs.
It works super fast, no crashing, low memory, looks great with your own backgrounds etc.
In the end, I dropped TF3d and I'll never ever go back. I've since deleted all the cab fixes and stuff in the kitchen to install or waste my time with TF3d.
Just my 2cents. Good luck in whatever you decide on.
Did I mention that with the latest release 21222 so far, it is the fastest OS on any HTC i've ever owned & by far the absolute most stable. IMHO

supersobbie-
Cooking your ROM is probably the best thing you can do, it'll be faster than alot of the cooks ROMs. Like I said before, PM me, IM me, whatever, I'd love to help you cook your own ROM.
noellenchris was right, 21222 is the best I have tried so far, it's fast, and it is the most stable out of all the builds

Question. I flashed a 6.5 rom the first day I got my phone and tried for about 30 minutes to install opera mini but was unsuccessful. As that was the program I use the most, I went with a 6.1 rom so that I could have a working phone since I didn't have time to test 6.5. So question is are you able to install opera mini on 6.5? If so, I'll give 6.5 a spin again,
Thanks.

[ROM][WWE][12-31-09]Da_G Clean ROM - WM 6.5.3.3 28205 - AT&T Tilt 2

Hey guys, well it looks like now is a good time to release the first test build of my AT&T Tilt 2 Clean ROM
If you're familiar with my Raphael ROM's, the concept is the same.
Support for as much hardware components as possible without bloated software
Stability
Speed (uncompressed)
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old version 28002
old version 23081
Note that it still needs a little bit of polish, but it's good enough to post the first test version now
QuickGPS is installed but not in the start menu (you can run it from \windows) - reason is aGPS works great and QuickGPS xtra.bin download is not needed when aGPS is functioning.
Keyboard comes pre-configured for AT&T layout.
No connection is configured initially, autodataconfig will start first boot and configure AT&T connections properly.
There is no MMS software installed (you can install a cab of arcsoft, which works fine)
The zoom slider doesn't function properly at the moment, nor the microphone mute button on the back (seems some extra HTC software beyond drivers is responsible for these, i'll look into it and see if I can activate both without adding bloat)
I have left the expiration date and timebomb warning text on the desktop intact, search the registry for key "DeviceBeta" and delete it if you would like to remove the warning. I plan to have several more releases out by the time the timebomb comes near, so it should not be an issue.

Awesome could not wait till we started to see some of the familar chefs cooking for the tilt2.
Thank you!

amazing
My new tilt2 just arrived today and i finally head out to the rhodium forum to start locating a new rom for the new phone and what do i find a nice shiny new Da_G clean rom that was just posted today. my absolute favorite rom's...
now wheres that unlocker... probably a sticky at the top...lol

Awesome! Is it really going to expired 12/09?

Love the Da_G clean ROMS...they are the best!
A couple questions:
Do you recommend a radio to correspond with the rilphone included in the ROM?
Does this ROM have the AT&T hardware keyboard layout cooked in?
Thanks again, Da_G...

Nice, Thanks Da_G

Check first post for answers to questions thus far, let me know if I missed something

da_g, it's great to see you and your amazing work here! i flashed this the moment i saw it!
you may want to add the proximity sensor to your to-do list, it is not active during a call.
also, the lockscreen takes a second before you can slide
that's it for now, and thanks again!

agps
thank you thank you thank you. I've said that to you so many times.
Got a question to bounce off this thread as AT&T's quite a minority to other threads. Can I use any radio on any rom plus the AT&T aGPS registry settings cab made by Captain Throwback for the Fuze (or any phone) in order to get aGPS? Or does it have to be the AT&T radio? Tough for me to test living in a city so it would be nice if someone saved me from the adventure I had with the Fuze to get this question answered.
Also I'm not seeing a lot of rilphones lying around. Are recent non-AT&T roms packing the 4.49 rilphone or none at all and ... ahh nevermind just someone figure out the gps thing so I can settle it on my site.
Thanks again.
Doug

The aGPS settings cab from t-back should work, you'll need a relatively recent rilphone and radio (probably all rhodium radios will do)
Run the HTCGPSTool app, hit open port, and look for it to connect your data and show $GPCELL in the window, if it does you're in business
gpsaux.dll service is required (part of quickgps), suplrootcert, and the registry entries.
Proximity Sensor, Rear mute button, and the other advanced in call features all look like they're dependant on the phone canvas, but i'm torn as to including that because it's pretty large and has a slight delay at ring-time.

Da_G...is it possible to cab up the phone canvas, so that it could be installed by those who desire those features?

d0ugie said:
Also I'm not seeing a lot of rilphones lying around.
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TP2 section is hurting in that department. Iirc from the radio thread it's not installing as easy ad it was on the fuze...who knows.

d0ugie said:
thank you thank you thank you. I've said that to you so many times.
Got a question to bounce off this thread as AT&T's quite a minority to other threads. Can I use any radio on any rom plus the AT&T aGPS registry settings cab made by Captain Throwback for the Fuze (or any phone) in order to get aGPS? Or does it have to be the AT&T radio? Tough for me to test living in a city so it would be nice if someone saved me from the adventure I had with the Fuze to get this question answered.
Also I'm not seeing a lot of rilphones lying around. Are recent non-AT&T roms packing the 4.49 rilphone or none at all and ... ahh nevermind just someone figure out the gps thing so I can settle it on my site.
Thanks again.
Doug
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I'm sending this from my tp2 now. in about an hour when I'm behind my laptop I will post 4.49 rillphone.dll
EDIT:
Here you go....
! KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS MODULE CAN ONLY BE USED BY COOKS. RECMOD AND THEN CABBING IT WILL RESULT IN HARDRESET TO USE YOUR PHONE AGAIN !

Hey Da_G,
Nice that we moved over to the Rhodium thread at about the same time. I was curious if you were planning on putting a kitchen up like you did for the Raphael? Even if you don't, your ROMS so closely resemble what I use that it doesn't matter much.
Thanks again for everything you've done here for XDA, I've used your ROMs on several devices now. CES is coming up soon, I'll see if I can find any more micro-SD cards to send you, or other cool swag.

Cab File
merten3000 said:
I'm sending this from my tp2 now. in about an hour when I'm behind my laptop I will post 4.49 rillphone.dll
EDIT:
Here you go....
! KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS MODULE CAN ONLY BE USED BY COOKS. RECMOD AND THEN CABBING IT WILL RESULT IN HARDRESET TO USE YOUR PHONE AGAIN !
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Can somebody make this into a cab file so it can be installed like what they have on the Fuze and Raphael?
Thanks.

kogac001 said:
Can somebody make this into a cab file so it can be installed like what they have on the Fuze and Raphael?
Thanks.
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Isn't there an easier way to perform a hard reset? (Read the post again.)

Hey Da_G,
Been using this since Saturday, and the only things that I've really noticed so far are:
- No comm manager (I need airplane mode)
- Settings | System | G-Sensor doesn't launch anything (not a huge issue, just weird)
- Sometimes when doing email (especially after replying, screen is stuck in landscape until you exit email)
- No X-Key or the like... Task Manager works, but is just not as convenient.
Look forward to the next release, and if you're willing to share the Kitchen again, I'll see if I can help port over some of the apps.

Stripped ROM
I'm very interested in a stripped ROM. No PIE, No Office, etc. I don't especially like IE8 or Opera. I like to install only the Software I want on the device.
Thanks.

Testing this now, Da_G is still my hero from the Blackjack 1 era. Maybe someone can spare my stupid self a lot of research, I'm only getting 3 wide icons in the start menu, even in landscape, is there a fix for that?

BWheezy said:
Testing this now, Da_G is still my hero from the Blackjack 1 era. Maybe someone can spare my stupid self a lot of research, I'm only getting 3 wide icons in the start menu, even in landscape, is there a fix for that?
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This will give you a 4 wide start menu.