I have had a t-mobile G1 since they first came out, only problem is that i`ve been using it on the Rogers network in Canada. The problem with this is that I can not get 3g on my phone, only Edge...which at times is rather painful. I know you can root the Rogers G1 but from what i`m reading there are limitations to the Roms you can put on it. I`m using cyanogenMod (latest) and i use switchrom to try out any new roms that are put out there. Also use A2SD.
What are the limitations, can i still do all that on the rogers G1. If not, is it worth it to sacrifice the 3g to keep these features
There are two ways to root the rogers dream. The first way keeps the original radio but you can only flash roms with a 32A kernel. There are ports for cyanogen and others, check out the sapphire development section. The second way will flash the G1 radio and you can flash any rom you could on the G1. There are some connection problems reported with the second method (mainly a bit slower edge speeds). I originally rooted my phone using this method and it is definitely still usable especially in 3g areas.
I recently bought a Roger's branded Dream off Ebay and rooted via the Haykuro method (which changes the radio). I am a Roger's customer who is coming from a BB Bold 9000 and I can tell you that 3g makes a small difference in cities.
First note is that a stock Roger's Dream has, frustrating at best, 3g connectivity when you are under three bars of service. IMO, EDGE in cities (I am in Toronto) provides what you need. ROMS correct the 3g discrepancy, however 3g is a power hungry beast on the Dream and EDGE has been doing me well.
Second note is that a newer Roger's Dream is a pain in the ass to root compared to our southern neighbours. I lucked out on my Ebay purchase and had a .0009 SPL. Cyanogen offers a method on their Wiki which allows you to keep the Roger's radio but it limits what you can flash as previously stated. The Haykuro method which changes the radio allows you to flash almost any ROM but I have yet to run anything stable.
Just a little food for thought, hope this helped
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I thought I could just follow a standard tutorial for getting Cyanogen on my device, but then I was horror stricken to see this tutorial which Rogers Dream users are supposed to use:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
First off the bat, I am using my dream unlocked on the Bell network, which is only WCDMA 1900mhz. So I don't know if doing this will stop the device from using HSPA over EDGE, because I don't know what's being changed in the radio version. If it changes to EDGE then I'm screwed because Bell being WCDMA doesn't support EDGE.
The tutorial is discussing keeping an EBI1 kernel for that radio but then mentions a EBI0. I have no idea what affects this will have on my device running unlocked at 1900mhz with the non stock carrier.
Also, this is probably stated in a million different threads, but how can I be assured that this guide is infact for my device. I guess I'm trying to ask what must I check to assure this will work on my device?
I would recommend using the guide at that link because of the reasons listed at the beginning and your phone will remain closer to how it came (mainly radio version).
Macmee said:
First off the bat, I am using my dream unlocked on the Bell network, which is only WCDMA 1900mhz. So I don't know if doing this will stop the device from using HSPA over EDGE, because I don't know what's being changed in the radio version. If it changes to EDGE then I'm screwed because Bell being WCDMA doesn't support EDGE.
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If you use the guide on the wiki the radio stays the same so there shouldn't be any problems. haykro's method uses the radio from the T-Mobile G1 and it is really unknown what the differences are but some slow data speeds have been reported. I haven't heard of anyone that can't connect to networks on certain frequencies due to the radio version, this seems to just be hardware based.
Macmee said:
The tutorial is discussing keeping an EBI1 kernel for that radio but then mentions a EBI0. I have no idea what affects this will have on my device running unlocked at 1900mhz with the non stock carrier.
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It only says that you won't have a EBI0 radio.
Macmee said:
Also, this is probably stated in a million different threads, but how can I be assured that this guide is infact for my device. I guess I'm trying to ask what must I check to assure this will work on my device?
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This should work for any Dream purchased through Rogers and has Rogers stamped on the back. You can check the radio version in the settings under about phone. It should be 3.22.20.17. You can also check the SPL version in fastboot (power on while holding camera). If you have 1.33.0009 you have the original SPL, if you have 1.33.0010 you have the new "perfect" one and you will have 1.33.0005 after rooted.
And a couple of questions for you. How did you get your phone unlocked? How is the GSM with Bell and did you get a better price than Rogers?
beav_35 said:
I would recommend using the guide at that link because of the reasons listed at the beginning and your phone will remain closer to how it came (mainly radio version).
If you use the guide on the wiki the radio stays the same so there shouldn't be any problems. haykro's method uses the radio from the T-Mobile G1 and it is really unknown what the differences are but some slow data speeds have been reported. I haven't heard of anyone that can't connect to networks on certain frequencies due to the radio version, this seems to just be hardware based.
It only says that you won't have a EBI0 radio.
This should work for any Dream purchased through Rogers and has Rogers stamped on the back. You can check the radio version in the settings under about phone. It should be 3.22.20.17. You can also check the SPL version in fastboot (power on while holding camera). If you have 1.33.0009 you have the original SPL, if you have 1.33.0010 you have the new "perfect" one and you will have 1.33.0005 after rooted.
And a couple of questions for you. How did you get your phone unlocked? How is the GSM with Bell and did you get a better price than Rogers?
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If I have 1.33.0009 does that mean I can use a method that doesn't risk bricking? It says when I flash the SPL it can brick the device
No, im sorry there is always a possibility of bricking a device when flashing firmware. If you follow the directions to the dot and verify the md5 sum of downloads the risk of bricking should be low. If you want to root it is a risk you are going to have to take just like flashing the firmware of any device (BIOS, etc.)
Beav_35:
I also am using an unlocked rogers dream on Bell.
Notes:
I called Bell with the IMEI before I bought it and asked them if it would work. They said yes.
I unlocked by purchasing a code from an ebay seller. $6. Two hours to get it. Worked for me, twice.
The roaming setting must be enabled. The status symbol has an R in it even tho I am not really roaming. Not a big problem for me.
There is an H in the data symbol. It works OK. The browsing speed is quick (this is a relative term) when tethering but molasses when using the browser in android. Not really sure what this means but it is better than the Treo650 I was using.
I just use Bell because I have contract and it is an acceptable deal. If I didn't have any contract I might look at Fido. My son uses an unlocked Rogers Iphone on Fido and can get voice,sms, and data for $50/mo plus tax - no system access fee.
I am paying $60 plus tax- no system access fee, but I get voice mail and caller ID and some more goodies like 6pm evenings.
THIS IS A QUICK QUESTION:
can the rogers dream run all roms posted here? or are there limitations?
if yes, how?
only if you have the danger spl and the newest radio.
but if you are on the Rogers network you may experience connection issues with the new radio...
I would hold off, you don't want to brick your phone. Our rogers Dreams have a different radio EBI1. Most of the roms on here were from the EBI0 radios meaning it will not work. I'm assuming you have a stock phone right now so use this guide. I used this for my rogers Dream and its working great. Add the http for the link.
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
if you flash the 2.x radio properly along with a proper recovery image, you SHOULDNT brick your phone. i had flashed the 2.x radio and was loading any/every rom you can think of, except i had a whole load of connectivity problems.
so i reverted back to the 3.x radio and have been fine ever since, just using cyans newest with ebi1 kernel.
would love to be able to get a superd rom on here with ebi1 kernel support
HM... ok.
I'm planning to use this on AT&T in the USA... has anyone had experience with this?
is the EBI0 radio acceptable for use with att?
because i'm using my g1 on att right now, and kinda want the 3g speeds. rogers dream does support those frequencies.
jcarrz1 said:
HM... ok.
I'm planning to use this on AT&T in the USA... has anyone had experience with this?
is the EBI0 radio acceptable for use with att?
because i'm using my g1 on att right now, and kinda want the 3g speeds. rogers dream does support those frequencies.
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The only thing is that you may have slow edge speeds. If you get 3g most of the time that probably doesn't matter.
are slower EDGE speeds with the EBI0 radio confirmed?
See: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Talk:Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
I don't know exactly why this is or if it happens for everyone.
FWIW, I just tried DSL reports speed test and got 115kbps on AT&T EDGE with the 26I radio on cyanogen. 3G was 992kbps and WIFI 2734kbps.
This compares to 91kbps/625kbps/3659kbps on my stock iphone 3G (3.1.2) tested immediately after the Rogers Dream with 26I on Cyanogen.
At least in terms of speed, I have to conclude that it's a non-issue, at least on AT&T. Time will tell with regards to network stability.
I have been working on development for a proof of concept application that requires AT&T 3G on the Nexus One. As I finish, I needed to deliver the app on phones to my customer--now I can only get T-Mobile version of the N1!
Why did Google/HTC pull the AT&T version from distribution?
I have a bad feeling by posting this, someone will provide "helpful" comments that I don't need to run an app on a particular carrier, or I can run a TM phone on AT&T--both technically true, but trust me, I have a special case that requires AT&T 3G enabled phones.
I don't think it will work, but I am going to try and reflash a TM N1 with the AT&T radio image and see if that works. I suspect not, since I read somewhere around here that the phones have different power amps. I will let you know...
wrong forum
flashing the at&t radio image to t-mobile hardware will not work don't waster your time
google has not given a reason for no AT&T dev phone only have said "at this time there are no plans to offer the version that is capable of 3G speeds on AT&T and Rogers networks."
Yeah, your best bet is to look on ebay/craigslist or even at the marketplace here on the XDA forums for one. I'm glad I got one before they are gone, but I'm sure you can still find one by looking.
Looks like there is one on sale for $500 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752127
Flashing the radio won't do anything because both phones already use the same radio file. There's no such thing as an ATT radio for the nexus, they all use the same single radio file.
Ebay is your best bet, or Craig list.
Radio image doesn't do anything.
The phones' hardware is different. You just have to get the AT&T version from ebay/craigslist.
Also, check out this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753476
Does your application *absolutely* have to run on an N1?
Cause it's worth pointing out... Telus (Canada) has now released the substantially similar HTC Desire. It's SIM-unlockable, cheaper than an N1, runs the right frequencies for AT&T 3G... and the ROM it comes with is rootable. If your application doesn't play well with Sense UI you can load a ROM such as OpenDesire which is basically stock Froyo.
So if you're in a real bind and you can't get your hands on enough Nexus Ones (Nexii?), this one might be worth consideration.
I noticed that there are a lot of random threads regarding the Samsung Captivate for Rogers (SGH-i896) and would like to make a common one that answers a few questions and asks a few.
I made a Wiki Page for the Rogers Captivate Model. You can add your FAQ and ROMs and what not there:
Samsung Rogers Captivate - SGH I896
I hope this becomes the main post for the Rogers Captivate where all questions would be answered so we won't have to look around. I will also add links and guides to rooting your Rogers version and hope that I get input from you guys as to which ROM is working and which is not.
Cheers.
Sure you can...change the model in the update-script from SGH-i897 to SGH-i896, done =]
I figured buying AT&T version, I'll have less hassle with flashing ROMs (using captivate with Fido). Bought one off craigslist and I'm very satisfied with it
I was thinking about that too but then if I buy the Rogers version then selling it within Canada becomes a lot easier too if you wanna upgrade. I know it would be a hassle to find custom ROMs but once we get used to editing ATT ROMs we should be good
rafyvitto said:
Sure you can...change the model in the update-script from SGH-i897 to SGH-i896, done =]
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That's helpful. Will try once I get my captivate.
iswapnil90 said:
I was thinking about that too but then if I buy the Rogers version then selling it within Canada becomes a lot easier too if you wanna upgrade. I know it would be a hassle to find custom ROMs but once we get used to editing ATT ROMs we should be good
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Haha yes it does make it less of a hassle. But seeing how we can just enter Rogers/Fido APNs and have a full working 3G, I think it'll be alright. Selling my European magic is a lot harder because of no 3G..
koreancanuck said:
Haha yes it does make it less of a hassle. But seeing how we can just enter Rogers/Fido APNs and have a full working 3G, I think it'll be alright. Selling my European magic is a lot harder because of no 3G..
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Well people usually avoid it because you can't use your warranty in Canada and I do need that! This was the only reason deterring me from buying the ATT version else I would have had it a couple of months back instead of waiting it out at Rogers. Put up your magic on eBay
koreancanuck said:
I figured buying AT&T version, I'll have less hassle with flashing ROMs (using captivate with Fido). Bought one off craigslist and I'm very satisfied with it
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So am/did I!
iswapnil90 said:
Well people usually avoid it because you can't use your warranty in Canada and I do need that! This was the only reason deterring me from buying the ATT version else I would have had it a couple of months back instead of waiting it out at Rogers. Put up your magic on eBay
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eBay is more of a hassle
Anyways back to the topic lol
I am having so much fun already with this phone from AT&T (I am w/ Fido).
I think the user base from US is much greater than Canada, especially we are pretty slow in getting anything (don't get me started ), so buying AT&T one gives us first hand on every dev goodies in XDA
The biggest question:
Does the Rogers Captivate have HSUPA enabled?
would love to try the stock rogers rom.. i'd like to see a more "samsung" rom rather than the amazingly bad ATT bloatware..
the stock roms have much longer batt life for me than the other roms here.
andy2na said:
The biggest question:
Does the Rogers Captivate have HSUPA enabled?
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Rogers have HSUPA on the network, weather or not they are disabled like AT&T, only those who has the actual phone can tell.
andy2na said:
The biggest question:
Does the Rogers Captivate have HSUPA enabled?
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Rogers has the capability but we don't if it is unlocked on the phone. Will know tomorrow once we have it..Here are the specs from the ROGERS website. (rogers (dot) com/captivate)
Connectivity:
HSPA Bands: UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz
Network Speed (HSPA): Up to 7.2 Mbps*
Yall, know what this means.
UN RESTRICTED CAPTIVATE KERNAL FOR HSUPA MOBILE AP AND ALL. NO MORE FLASHING TO I9000
correct band froyo hsupa modems for all. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
AT&T branded with Rogers ROM
I currently have the AT&T Captivate but with the SGH-I896 Rogers official ROM on it and have been using this one for a month now. I love the device.
HSPA+ works 100%(check pics and you will see the H symbol instead of 3G)!! I love it but it does chew up alot more data. Doesn't matter for me as I have 6GB but for others that might be an issue. Barely any Rogers Bloatware at all.
SGH-I896 Pics
Pics of my AT&T branded SGH-I896 Rogers Samsung Captivate.
Dump the modem.bin we need it.
Hey Guys,
I just updated the main post with a link to the Wiki Page for this version of the device. Please try and add as much info as you can so that people won't have to look around.
Cheers
seanwalton said:
I currently have the AT&T Captivate but with the SGH-I896 Rogers official ROM on it and have been using this one for a month now. I love the device.
HSPA+ works 100%(check pics and you will see the H symbol instead of 3G)!! I love it but it does chew up alot more data. Doesn't matter for me as I have 6GB but for others that might be an issue. Barely any Rogers Bloatware at all.
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Mind sharing the ROM so the developers can work it?
Hi guys,
I plan on buying a Galaxy Tab and plan on using it wi-fi only, so it doesn't matter to me which version I purchase but I'd like to know which version of the tab is easier to hack and get the best use out of?
If I get the wi-fi only version that just got released, can I still use some of the custom roms out there?
Thanks
I won't use the 3G part of it but if I decide to go with a 3G version, should I go with the GSM version or a CDMA version? I know if I go with a GSM Version, I can flash a european FW and use it for phone calls,etc but I have no intention of doing that. All I want to be able to do is have a good working custom rom to get better battery life,etc...
Well the wifi version is new and has no custom roms yet. CDMA version is mostly carrier restricted so rom development is hard. Finally GSM version is easiest one to install custom rom on although i advice you to read alot before flashing custom roms.
DarkPal said:
Well the wifi version is new and has no custom roms yet. CDMA version is mostly carrier restricted so rom development is hard. Finally GSM version is easiest one to install custom rom on although i advice you to read alot before flashing custom roms.
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Well, I am quite familiar with flashing ROMs, mainly for phones though. I read somewhere that T-Mobile has a lot of restrictions, is that true?
Mine is a GSM, Wi-Fi, Version the P1000.
I have had a GSM card in it to test it out, and since removed it.
Although i like to have the option of doing so.
For that reason alone, id suggest the GSM, wifi version.
Just my 2 cents.
I have the GSM 3G wifi Tab and is soooo happy!
I also have two friends who bought the wifi only version and later hoped they got the 3G one..
The WiFi version has BT 2.1 rather than BT 3.0 if you care much about that. Otherwise, the specs are almost the same as the AT&T version. I got the WiFi only, but found that there are at least three Samsung accessories that come up as "not guaranteed to work with your device". The HDMI dock, car charger, and car cradle are the main ones. I don't know if this is due to a lack of testing with the WiFi only, or if it is missing drivers/software/hardware that is needed to use those.
Regardless, I'm happy with mine until a version with a nicer screen comes out. I'm especially happy with the ability to dump just about any media file onto the MicroSD and it will play it.
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WiFi Tab has a PowerVR SGX530 vs. GSM Tab's PowerVR SGX540
Wifi version also has different CPU.
With lower spec GPU, it can't play high-bit-rate 720p and 1080p which the 3G version can handle without problem.
thanks guys. I guess 3G version is a better choice.
I suggest a gsm [at&t/tmo] version. They have 16gb build in.
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