THIS IS A QUICK QUESTION:
can the rogers dream run all roms posted here? or are there limitations?
if yes, how?
only if you have the danger spl and the newest radio.
but if you are on the Rogers network you may experience connection issues with the new radio...
I would hold off, you don't want to brick your phone. Our rogers Dreams have a different radio EBI1. Most of the roms on here were from the EBI0 radios meaning it will not work. I'm assuming you have a stock phone right now so use this guide. I used this for my rogers Dream and its working great. Add the http for the link.
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
if you flash the 2.x radio properly along with a proper recovery image, you SHOULDNT brick your phone. i had flashed the 2.x radio and was loading any/every rom you can think of, except i had a whole load of connectivity problems.
so i reverted back to the 3.x radio and have been fine ever since, just using cyans newest with ebi1 kernel.
would love to be able to get a superd rom on here with ebi1 kernel support
HM... ok.
I'm planning to use this on AT&T in the USA... has anyone had experience with this?
is the EBI0 radio acceptable for use with att?
because i'm using my g1 on att right now, and kinda want the 3g speeds. rogers dream does support those frequencies.
jcarrz1 said:
HM... ok.
I'm planning to use this on AT&T in the USA... has anyone had experience with this?
is the EBI0 radio acceptable for use with att?
because i'm using my g1 on att right now, and kinda want the 3g speeds. rogers dream does support those frequencies.
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The only thing is that you may have slow edge speeds. If you get 3g most of the time that probably doesn't matter.
are slower EDGE speeds with the EBI0 radio confirmed?
See: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Talk:Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
I don't know exactly why this is or if it happens for everyone.
FWIW, I just tried DSL reports speed test and got 115kbps on AT&T EDGE with the 26I radio on cyanogen. 3G was 992kbps and WIFI 2734kbps.
This compares to 91kbps/625kbps/3659kbps on my stock iphone 3G (3.1.2) tested immediately after the Rogers Dream with 26I on Cyanogen.
At least in terms of speed, I have to conclude that it's a non-issue, at least on AT&T. Time will tell with regards to network stability.
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I thought I could just follow a standard tutorial for getting Cyanogen on my device, but then I was horror stricken to see this tutorial which Rogers Dream users are supposed to use:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Full_Update_Guide_-_Rogers_Dream_EBI1_to_CyanogenMod
First off the bat, I am using my dream unlocked on the Bell network, which is only WCDMA 1900mhz. So I don't know if doing this will stop the device from using HSPA over EDGE, because I don't know what's being changed in the radio version. If it changes to EDGE then I'm screwed because Bell being WCDMA doesn't support EDGE.
The tutorial is discussing keeping an EBI1 kernel for that radio but then mentions a EBI0. I have no idea what affects this will have on my device running unlocked at 1900mhz with the non stock carrier.
Also, this is probably stated in a million different threads, but how can I be assured that this guide is infact for my device. I guess I'm trying to ask what must I check to assure this will work on my device?
I would recommend using the guide at that link because of the reasons listed at the beginning and your phone will remain closer to how it came (mainly radio version).
Macmee said:
First off the bat, I am using my dream unlocked on the Bell network, which is only WCDMA 1900mhz. So I don't know if doing this will stop the device from using HSPA over EDGE, because I don't know what's being changed in the radio version. If it changes to EDGE then I'm screwed because Bell being WCDMA doesn't support EDGE.
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If you use the guide on the wiki the radio stays the same so there shouldn't be any problems. haykro's method uses the radio from the T-Mobile G1 and it is really unknown what the differences are but some slow data speeds have been reported. I haven't heard of anyone that can't connect to networks on certain frequencies due to the radio version, this seems to just be hardware based.
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The tutorial is discussing keeping an EBI1 kernel for that radio but then mentions a EBI0. I have no idea what affects this will have on my device running unlocked at 1900mhz with the non stock carrier.
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It only says that you won't have a EBI0 radio.
Macmee said:
Also, this is probably stated in a million different threads, but how can I be assured that this guide is infact for my device. I guess I'm trying to ask what must I check to assure this will work on my device?
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This should work for any Dream purchased through Rogers and has Rogers stamped on the back. You can check the radio version in the settings under about phone. It should be 3.22.20.17. You can also check the SPL version in fastboot (power on while holding camera). If you have 1.33.0009 you have the original SPL, if you have 1.33.0010 you have the new "perfect" one and you will have 1.33.0005 after rooted.
And a couple of questions for you. How did you get your phone unlocked? How is the GSM with Bell and did you get a better price than Rogers?
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I would recommend using the guide at that link because of the reasons listed at the beginning and your phone will remain closer to how it came (mainly radio version).
If you use the guide on the wiki the radio stays the same so there shouldn't be any problems. haykro's method uses the radio from the T-Mobile G1 and it is really unknown what the differences are but some slow data speeds have been reported. I haven't heard of anyone that can't connect to networks on certain frequencies due to the radio version, this seems to just be hardware based.
It only says that you won't have a EBI0 radio.
This should work for any Dream purchased through Rogers and has Rogers stamped on the back. You can check the radio version in the settings under about phone. It should be 3.22.20.17. You can also check the SPL version in fastboot (power on while holding camera). If you have 1.33.0009 you have the original SPL, if you have 1.33.0010 you have the new "perfect" one and you will have 1.33.0005 after rooted.
And a couple of questions for you. How did you get your phone unlocked? How is the GSM with Bell and did you get a better price than Rogers?
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If I have 1.33.0009 does that mean I can use a method that doesn't risk bricking? It says when I flash the SPL it can brick the device
No, im sorry there is always a possibility of bricking a device when flashing firmware. If you follow the directions to the dot and verify the md5 sum of downloads the risk of bricking should be low. If you want to root it is a risk you are going to have to take just like flashing the firmware of any device (BIOS, etc.)
Beav_35:
I also am using an unlocked rogers dream on Bell.
Notes:
I called Bell with the IMEI before I bought it and asked them if it would work. They said yes.
I unlocked by purchasing a code from an ebay seller. $6. Two hours to get it. Worked for me, twice.
The roaming setting must be enabled. The status symbol has an R in it even tho I am not really roaming. Not a big problem for me.
There is an H in the data symbol. It works OK. The browsing speed is quick (this is a relative term) when tethering but molasses when using the browser in android. Not really sure what this means but it is better than the Treo650 I was using.
I just use Bell because I have contract and it is an acceptable deal. If I didn't have any contract I might look at Fido. My son uses an unlocked Rogers Iphone on Fido and can get voice,sms, and data for $50/mo plus tax - no system access fee.
I am paying $60 plus tax- no system access fee, but I get voice mail and caller ID and some more goodies like 6pm evenings.
I have had a t-mobile G1 since they first came out, only problem is that i`ve been using it on the Rogers network in Canada. The problem with this is that I can not get 3g on my phone, only Edge...which at times is rather painful. I know you can root the Rogers G1 but from what i`m reading there are limitations to the Roms you can put on it. I`m using cyanogenMod (latest) and i use switchrom to try out any new roms that are put out there. Also use A2SD.
What are the limitations, can i still do all that on the rogers G1. If not, is it worth it to sacrifice the 3g to keep these features
There are two ways to root the rogers dream. The first way keeps the original radio but you can only flash roms with a 32A kernel. There are ports for cyanogen and others, check out the sapphire development section. The second way will flash the G1 radio and you can flash any rom you could on the G1. There are some connection problems reported with the second method (mainly a bit slower edge speeds). I originally rooted my phone using this method and it is definitely still usable especially in 3g areas.
I recently bought a Roger's branded Dream off Ebay and rooted via the Haykuro method (which changes the radio). I am a Roger's customer who is coming from a BB Bold 9000 and I can tell you that 3g makes a small difference in cities.
First note is that a stock Roger's Dream has, frustrating at best, 3g connectivity when you are under three bars of service. IMO, EDGE in cities (I am in Toronto) provides what you need. ROMS correct the 3g discrepancy, however 3g is a power hungry beast on the Dream and EDGE has been doing me well.
Second note is that a newer Roger's Dream is a pain in the ass to root compared to our southern neighbours. I lucked out on my Ebay purchase and had a .0009 SPL. Cyanogen offers a method on their Wiki which allows you to keep the Roger's radio but it limits what you can flash as previously stated. The Haykuro method which changes the radio allows you to flash almost any ROM but I have yet to run anything stable.
Just a little food for thought, hope this helped
Can PaulOBrians Froyo update work on a AT&T model phone?
I have the Tmobile version but a mate at work has the At&t Model and wants me to flash it for him tomorrow..
Any issues with flashing the new radio?
I have an AT&T N1 and Pauls Froyo works great on mine, I am not on 3G though, some users are reporting hideous speeds on 3G and so they are just downgrading their radios only. Wait for a few more replies just to be sure
Cyanogen wiki says 2.22.23.02 radio for T-Mobile/US, 2.22.19.26i for Non US. But does the US/non US refers to the phone or the user? I am buying a T-Mobile G1 for use in New Zealand. Which one should I flash?
It really doesn't matter. I use .02 on 02-UK (ignore that my phone's a sapphire) and the signal strength has marginally improved over 26i. Try both and see which works best for you.
Doesn't matter. 2.22.19.26I was the old radio. And yes it works for people in the USA and out of USA as well.
sent from my superfroyo dream
I'm currently downloading the following GPE ROM and I notice it says that you can flash the radio but it is not required. Just wondering what this means exactly? Is it the drivers for the radio device in the headset that gives you your signal? Is it best practice to flash the radio or do most people leave it? What are the pros and cons etc? Is it dangerous to do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2341395
Thanks
Radios control things like Cellular, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS.
Each version has its unique radios.
The software that controls them would tell the device to get HSPDA+ on band x or LTE on band Y.. stuff like that.
For example. ME i have T-Mobile. I have a T-Mobile branded HTC One. For a while i ran my One fully stock GPe with the TMO radios. Why? Because when TMO sent out an update a while back (prior to 4.3) they updated their radios and i saw noticeable improvement on LTE for TMO..
SO naturally when i converted mine to GPe i wanted to keep my TMO radios. The GPe might not have the tweaks to its radios that TMO sent out and at the time the version on my GPe was older. So i put the newer TMO radio on it and i felt like it was working great.
Someone else chime in with pros and cons.