NEW (29/4/09) --> after further investigation and discussion with other kaiser owner affected with same problem, the thing could be more important than expected as many Kaiser could be potentially having the same problem.
The issue is that after going on flight mode the unit can start to have problems to get registered to the phone operator. Sometimes the problem is mitigated temporary by disabling 3G but the problem can persist. The unit is able to see the operators available but not to connect to any of them. Units affected were built between 07/07 and 11/07.
If you are affected please post your release date (DATE: DDMMYY(TBXX)/EU) that you can find on the sticker on the atenna in the back, under the back cover.
If you are not, be aware of the problem as you may start to have it if you go to flight mode or travel abroad.
NO SOLUTION FOR THE TIME BEING, AND IN GENERAL AFFECTED UNITS ARE ALREADY OUT OF THE GUARANTEE PERIOD.
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My TYTN II has more than 1 year.
The problem: Basically it is out of coverage all time, and does not manage to get connected to any network.
It started about 1 year ago. I am base in France and I want to USA. When I arrived to New York it did not work anymore. I thought it could have been the roaming or just that I had changed the SIM card a few weeks before and the operator did something wrong (ORANGE). But the point is that the same SIM was working in my spare nokia and on the other hand an Orange Spain SIM had the same problem.
I spend a few days in USA moving from one state to the other and after 2 or 3 days the phone started to work but with some problems (changing from one operator to another it did work) finally the 4th day it was working.
When I returned to Paris, it did work ok for a while.
Then one day the phone just droped the connection to the operator, and at the same time the Bluetooth link to the BT carkit and the GPS stopped and restarted. Since that moment the phone just did not work anymore (only the telephone).
I open a case to HTC who never replied. On the phone they just say inconsistent things.
The WM6.1 official release came out and I did upgrade it--> still the same. A new ticket open to HTC without replay. I stopped using it for a while.
In summer I went to Spain for vacations and started to play with it again. One day it started to work again without any justificiation.... so I left it like that.
Months latter I got a mail from HTC (really very reactive) but at that point the phone was working since more than 4 months.
By the end of 2008 when I was in Spain and this time using my Orange Spain SIM, I had to replace the SIM. After a few days, and after travelling across Spain, I had again the same problem. And actually the phone did not get any coverage with any of the SIM I use (Orange FR, Orange ES, Movistar...). Little by little it started to work again and it has stay like this for a few months.
In the last few weeks I have been in UK and Italy. Again started to have problems and finally, after a visit to Italy my phone has stop working. It is like that for 2 weeks.
The point is that I have tryed all kind of things:
- force to GSM or let it in auto
- change the UMTS and GSM bands
- different SIM from different operators
- Official WM6.0 and WM6.1 spanish
- finally I started to flash different Radio ROM and also coocked ROM
- when I search manually the operators or I try to fix it manually, I see that the phone is actually capable to see the available networks, but it does not manage to get registered in any.
At the end it is always in with the "!" symbol, saying either that it has no coverage or that the access is refussed.
I have seen that in two occasions I had changed the SIM a few weeks before. Also that the problem has always happened after putting the phone in flight mode (actually I was flying) and landing in a new city or even a new country; except once.
Last point: it is free HTC Spanish version. It is actually the second as the first I had was stollen. With the first I never had problems.
I will end up sending it back to HTC but obviously it will take very very long and meanwhile I will not have the GPS and the rest of the PDA that still work ok.
Any idea?
Thanks
Wow that was a long post, even so, you've left out some important info. Which ROM Radio and SPL versions are on the device now (the wiki explains how to find all this out if needed). Has the device suffered any physical bumps or been used in the rain/got wet? Have you tried cleaning the battery terminals and spring posts with a cotton bud soaked in contact cleaner or IPA? Not sure if the last one will help (especially if there are no battery charge problems) but it may be an intermittant problem and I've found this to be a known issue with the TyTN II. Also, how much more than one year have you had the phone (my TyTN II came with a warranty about 15 months).
Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
On the other hand, I have tested all (really all) the RADIO ROM available in the FTP server of xda-developers, plus some more up to the 1.70.18.02 and
1.71.09.01.
Right now I'm running the 1.64.06.04.
In terms of ROM, I have also tested serveral. The last few are:
- offical HTC WM6.1 ESP (BTW with radio 1.65.17.56)
- KaiserESNReconstructedTestFix02
- RUU_Kaiser_SPA_WM6.1.19212.MobileVirtualVista2.21_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_by_ansar
The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
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Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
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How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
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I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
In terms of ROM ..... The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
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You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
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Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
Wow that is totally crazy. Good luck with that.
Flying Kiwi said:
How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
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I will clean it again just to be sure....
Flying Kiwi said:
You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
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I have gone through the forum to find another similar cases, but no luck. I agree with you that it is very unlikely that it is the ROM, as it happened with 5 different ROMs, including official WM6 and WM6.1.
Flying Kiwi said:
Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
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A few drops in 1 year an a half, this is almost unavoidable. But not a big crash, and in any case it never happened just before the problem. The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
I did not mention it but I reflashed the SPL a few times.... the same. I have also changed the Network Wizard and run it several times (there are some problems in the forum where people can not get access to some of the operator's services). Nothing changed
There is another point, when I go to the configuration of the Phone, I can list the available networks, but the issue is that it does not get registered to any of them. It may even be a problem with the operator an not the phone itself.
Flying Kiwi said:
If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
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That is a good point. As I have to travel to UK from time to time I may consider it as an option, but as you say, I want to try all possibilities before.
Thanks again, and thanks to all other people that have any suggestion.
pepesr_1 said:
The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
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You did mention sometimes it refuses to be registered on the correct network. If you use your secondary phone to call the operator, perhaps they can tell from their side why registration is being refused? I assume the SPL version you are using is fully compatible with the ROMs you are using. Other than that it's time to contact the repair centre and if you're now back in France then the HTC website (or Orange in France) should provide details of closer, more convenient repair centres. Good luck.
Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
pepesr said:
Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
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By that if you mean it's hardware related fair enough but remember there are lots of bits of hardware attached to the mainboard which are easily and relatively cheaply replaceable (eg the sim holder) so a skilled repairer should be able to diagnose exactly where the fault lies.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
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Well thats a very important distinction to make. Option 1 may be uneconomic to repair where as option 2 would be free - don't you think you should get a definitive response from your network provider?
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
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Get a definitive response from the network provider and then if reqd from an HTC repair centre (as suggested in my last post). In the meantime you can carry on as normal using the 'good' Kaiser.
Thansk.
If you have seen the rips of the Kaiser, it is not so easy to repair what is suppose to be faulty.
When you open it, you take out some parts:
- Antenna
- Speaker
- the roller control on the left side
Then you can remove the main card by disconnecting two flex cables.
When you have done this, your unit becomes two main parts:
- the main body that is completely ripped off
- the other half that contains the LCD, keyb, tilt mechanism, SIM reader, SD reader
The mothercard is actually monolitic, and most of the components are shilded with a methalic case solded to the board. There you have memory, processor, communication chipset...
I am currently using the "new" board on the old phone. Old the rest of the components are from the old one (including antenna, speaker....) and it works, so the fault is in the mother card.
Then when I use the old card with the "new" phone I have the same problem. I have a good and a bad one. Considering that I have no guarantee (and if I had, after all this manipulations, I have lost it for sure), I will first check with Orange. It is not very likely that it has been an operator problem as I have tried with many SIM from different operators and in different countries.
At this point is not so bad as I can play with the spare unit, test new ROM and SW, etc... before running it in the operational one. I also have spare parts in case that I broke something else (LCD...). I am even considering to buy another in ebay, something broken but with the mother card still running, so I can actually have two fully operational.
Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
raiisak said:
If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?
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That must be about the 4th or 5th time SPL has been mentioned in this thread and nowhere has pepesr answered - very annoying but you know what they say about leading a horse to water....
Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Especially when relevant questions from earlier on in the thread (and reminders/suggestions to clean terminals) are being ignored/not reported back on - maybe pepesr may actually listen this time and answer all outstanding q's/report what has actually been done?[/grouch mode]
Thanks again for your help.
Don't get disapointed, I have gone through all the story because the problem is quite weird and this is maybe the only way not to miss an important detail.
As said twice before, answering to the questions, I have traid different SPL and ROMs. To be more precise:
- The problem first started with original HTC SW set up., long time ago.
- I only started to play with different SPL a few weeks ago, and because I wanted to test different radios as the problem is on the phone part.
- I have tried SPLs 1.93, 1.56, 3.28. For sure 1 or 2 more but I don't have any record. Currently running 3.28
- I have installed radios:
- 1.27.11.31
- 1.27.12.11
- 1.27.12.17
- 1.27.12.32
- 1.27.14.09
- 1.27.15.32
- 1.58.26.20
- 1.64.06.04 --> currently running
- 1.64.08.21
- 1.70.18.02
- 1.71.09.01
- I have tried ROMs:
- official HTC WM6 spanish
- official HTC WM6.1 Spanish
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.21/2.20 D3D WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.10/2.00 WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3gullum
- Throttle Diamond I multi language (updated) --> currently running
Do not hesitate to ask further details.
Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
Anyway, perhaps the sim card connection to the motherboard is flaky
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Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
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You were right the first time. 'Verified' is not the same as cleaned correctly and thoroughly, just as saying it will be done doesn't mean it has been done (correctly and thoroughly). It's not that I'm simply dissapointed. I am annoyed at being given the run-around when it comes to getting concise answers and actions quickly.
I note that we finally have the CURRENT full ROM/Radio/SPL details when picked from a list of other things we didn't ask for (although still no word on whether the actual terminal/connector cleaning has yet taken place for sim and battery and if it was done correctly and thoroughly using the correct materials). I don't know if they are all fully compatible with each other, especially that radio (and to be honest, I can't be bothered checking the custom ROM thread to find out). To say all combinations have been tried is little use because that could mean mixing incompatible items together with a net result of problems. It's akin to saying I've verified all the fluid levels under a car bonnet by filling the radiator with oil, brake fluid reserviour with antifreeze and water and the engine with brake fluid.
I will not be hesitating to ask further details from pepesr (and pepesr_1 for that matter...), I simply won't. The problem is not that not enough words are provided in a response, it's that listening and acting on clear guidance is not occurring, not something I know how to change in others apart from by showing them the net effect.
In the words of ChumleyEX, the situation is 'crazy'!
As many times in the forum, your answers, Flying Kiwi, are starting to be agressive and useless.
Contacts have been very well cleaned (correctly and thoroughly).
More over, the SIM connectors are in the other half of the unit that works with the new motherboard.
Asuming by default that I am so incompetent and that I have not gone through all this forum to check all this compatibilities is quite arrogant.
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I continue to thanks all other people that has really the intention to help.
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Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Yes, it does work 102% for the rest. No other problems at all. And you can be sure I really strees it.
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
vuquan said:
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
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Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
pepesr_1 said:
Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
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I haven't check yet. But I think it's same. I bought it at 01/2008 as brandnew phone.
2 week ago, I take it to a service shop to re-weld the SIM tray pins. At that time, the phone is good. After one day, it became fault as the time before welding.
More information:
- When it good, the signal can be found when the Windows starting (the LED is blink) with any SIM.
- When it fault, with usable SIMs, the signal can be found after Windows started some minutes. With un-usable SIMs, the phone says: No SIM.
- All Sims above are good SIM (tested on other phone)
Sorry for my bad English.
Hi All,
Does the tape on the internal antenna cover have a functional purpose ?
It is the labelled tape on this component:
link
I assume "yes" because why else would they spend the $0.04 putting it there?
I ask because over the last two years, I've replaced the internal speaker and my LCD display. Everything works fine now, with the exception that the GPS has ceased working. It turns out that as part of my early curiosity and fumbling around, I pealed off the tape then re-applied it and there is a break in it now. Is the tape an RF shield or an antenna of some sort (i.e. is there a conductor in it), or is it just inert electrical tape ? Does it affect GPS reception? If it is inert, why is it there ?
At any rate, I've tried all the conventional solutions to GPS problems, including
the usual suspects: QuickGPS, turning off AGPS, hard-reset, clear view of sky
trying different radios and ROMs--probably 6 different radios and 4 different ROMs in different combinations
the HTC GPS Tool
throwing my phone against a wall*
I've searched this site and the entire net regarding the antenna cover & tape and haven't found anything ... Any insight ?
Thanks,
Guy
*haven't tried this option yet
Currently running (but have tried 6 Radios and 4 ROMs including OEM ROMs)
HARDSPL 3.29
ROM Version: 65Series WWE 04/30/09 (Phoenix III: Phx3.1.21815)
RAdio: 1.70.19.09
Protocol: 25.83.40.02H
I just set my tilt up exactly like yours and the gps didn't work by default. In each gps program I had to change it to use COM4 instead of the intermediate driver or default setup. Now all my GPS stuff works.
I would try what is mentioned above.. I have a LG Incite that was having the same problem... instead of a com port in the "External GPS Settings", under the GPS Program Port, it was set to "GPD7" instead of "Com4".. I changed that setting and it immediatly fixed the problem... Let us know if that works for you... My GPS went out on my tilt yesteday... and nothign fixed it except for a hard reset.. now it works fine again... Hopefully you won;t ahve to do that... Also, on a side note, I am using TomTom 7.45, as that one seems to work best with my Tilt without having to run any "Extra" programs to get the GPS to work....
Maybe not waiting long enough for WM 6.1 sat fix?
GuyIncognito said:
I ask because over the last two years, I've replaced the internal speaker and my LCD display. Everything works fine now, with the exception that the GPS has ceased working.
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Currently running (but have tried 6 Radios and 4 ROMs including OEM ROMs)
HARDSPL 3.29
ROM Version: 65Series WWE 04/30/09 (Phoenix III: Phx3.1.21815)
RAdio: 1.70.19.09
Protocol: 25.83.40.02H
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If you've not tried GPS since upgrading to WM 6.1 then welcome to the effects of WM 6.1 ROMs (at least the HTC ones which take ages by comparison to get a satelite lock). The WM 6.0 HTC ROMs with early 1.27.xx.xx series radios seem to initialise the GPS circuitry with much more power resulting in better GPS performance so try a WM 6.0 ROM/Radio/SPL setup. If GPS still doesn't work as it should then yes the tape is relevant. Personally I'd get HTC to fit the new tape and see what diffrence it makes - I suspect it'll make a difference.
GPS operational after replacing antenna cover...
Guys,
I just wanted to post an update to the thread. I doubt this is a general solution to GPS problems, but it may help some folks who have the specific situation I had.
For my specific case, replacing the antenna cover plate fixed my problem: GPS had not worked for 6 months (OS sees the GPS device, but 0 satellites under all conditions), and it is now operational after replacing the cover. The GPS had ceased working after I replaced the speaker and LCD display. When replacing those items, I had partially destroyed the tape covering the internal GPS antennas.
So, to answer the questions in my original post,
1. Replacing the cover (link in post # 1) now gets me a fix, with 5-7 satellites in the open. This is at least as good as it was one year ago before I disassembled my device with wreckless abandon.
2. Further, I did some "destructive testing" of the cover I replaced, and the copper colored conductors on the bottom of the antenna cover are in fact attached to the "tape," so I infer that the tape is conductive and/or functions as an antenna, since those conductors make contact with the copper posts on the motherboard.
I will do more testing with time-to-fix and useage conditions, but for now I'm pleasantly surprised.
Note:
* I have not changed my ROM or radio since I originally posted, so the above results are "ceteris paribus" ...
* In the preceding 6 months, GPS has not worked on 20+ different combinations of ROM & radio, including WM6.0 ROMs...
Guy
Flying Kiwi said:
If you've not tried GPS since upgrading to WM 6.1 then welcome to the effects of WM 6.1 ROMs (at least the HTC ones which take ages by comparison to get a satelite lock).
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I had that problem until yesterday when I switched to hard SPL 3.56 from 3.29. I can now get a GPS fix in under a minute.
Here are some of my personal experiences with the HTC S730 (Wings) smartphone that I bought almost two years ago and have been using ever since every day:
To start off I got it as a 2-year contract for a reasonable price. It had all the necessary abilities I could ever ask for from a phone (push-email, WiFi, qwerty slideout), highly customazible with 3rd party software and it wasn't even sim locked when I got it. In the first week or so however I started to notice it slowing down periodically and being unable to launch new programs. I ran out of RAM in awkward situations, having to use the task manager or restart my phone as it became unresponsive. I found ways to overcome this problem by limiting my open programs with Oxios Closeapps or switching to 3rd party applications such as the Opera Browser that can be shut down instead of leaving it on the background.
A word of warning: The first phone bill was a bit of a shock (~200€) for gprs data transfer. Windows Mobile prefers 3G connectivity over WiFi it seems. Remove the gprs settings if you don't use them, or get an unlimited dataplan like I did. It only costs 9€ where I live.
After the first month I started to notice tiny scratches and cracks in my phone's housing even though I'd been super gentle with it. I even bought a cushioned leather case for it to keep my phone from more harm. The cracks have become more noticeable over time and I must say the building materials are very sketchy, unlike the aluminium case my Nokia E-series phone used to have.
One major applaude for HTC is it's durability and ability to resist WATER(!). I submerged the phone into a lake while fishing, picked it up and instantly removed the battery (this is horrible!). I let it dry in peace for two weeks, left alone in a bowl of rice to get the humidity out of the circuits. The water indicator sticker below the battery got wet and colored (barely) so that's a bad thing for warranty if it decides to stop working some day soon.
I've had some trouble with the D-pad taking multiple keypresses from just one click, and got it solved by using the keyboard fixing "tool" found on this forum, decreasing the response time of D-pad's keypresses to 200ms.
Regarding to the GPS "rumors" found on this site whether or not it functions with the right rom/settings/registry entries my word is: YES. There is a gps chip in this phone. YES. It does work. Sluggishly without an antenna, but I got it to work with 100% accuracy inside our office building. I've done no additional tweaks to my phone other than flash the Alcaline 6.1 ROM using guides found on this forum. I used Google Maps with GPS strolling down the streets and checking my location periodically on a Tom-Tom, comparing the results. Hope you can get it working too.
Please, share your own experiences about HTC S730 or ask questions that I might answer from this phone as I believe I have a fair amount of experience with it.
GPS?
ignatiuscheese said:
Regarding to the GPS "rumors" found on this site whether or not it functions with the right rom/settings/registry entries my word is: YES. There is a gps chip in this phone. YES. It does work. Sluggishly without an antenna, but I got it to work with 100% accuracy inside our office building. I've done no additional tweaks to my phone other than flash the Alcaline 6.1 ROM using guides found on this forum. I used Google Maps with GPS strolling down the streets and checking my location periodically on a Tom-Tom, comparing the results. Hope you can get it working too.
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Hay ignatiuscheese,
Are you serieus? do you have an preproduction or an regular wings? I have a wings with xuque's rom. can you give me a link to a tutorial for enabling my GPS, or make an own one. Can you remember how you did it?
I hope you can help me enabling GPS.
Greets,
Niels
Hey Niels, thanks for replying.
I have a regular wings, bought from Finland as a 2-year contract with a local operator so definately not a pre-production model. I do believe there is variation between different operators and their phones, some phones might have different chipsets but mine just so happened to be GPS-enabled.
As mentioned before I used the Alcaline 6.1 rom found on this site (it's a sticky thread) and installed Google Maps. I checked the "Use GPS" box and vóila: working gps. As mentioned it's very sluggish, only 1-3 satellites at a time at chosen locations but works. Haven't tried any secret registry tweaks or additional flashing.
GPS
Hi,
Could you please test the gps/googlemap without the sim card? In order to discard that the software is using your gsm data instead the gps data.
Many thanks in advance,
Okay I just replaced the sim card holder on my tilt and still having no luck with the tilt reading my sim. This same sim works on other phones and i've tried other sims and have not found anything that works including the small strip of paper to create a better connection trick. Any help is appreciated and if any extra information just let me know. Thanks!!
maybe you flashed a new radio rom and didnt HR the tilt after that.
try to HR
danny
tried hard reset and still no luck
i see at least FOUR threads pertaining to various SIM related issues on the first page of the general forum...what gives? shouldn't all of you be posting in one single thread so that a better collection of workarounds, fixes, and troubleshooting tips can be built?
here, i'll make things a bit easier. i have personally NEVER faced sim related problems but i'll consolidate whatever i've read on sim related issues on this wonderful forum over the last year:
1. some ATT users reported a long time ago that some sims were just plain incompatible with the kaiser. changing the radio might get it to work but the provider will often be willing to issue you a new sim so that should be first preference. if your sim worked once but doesn't work anymore, move on to the next point.
2. the metal bracket holding the sim down can become a bit loose...jamming a piece of paper between the bracket and the sim can help solve the problem. if it doesn't, then move on to the next point.
3. your operator may have fiddled with some tower/cell site settings. try the sim in another phone while remaining in the same cell site OR try a different cell site OR stay in the same cell site and try a different radio on your kaiser. if this doesn't help, move on to the next point.
4. does the sim work when the phone is in a certain position? maybe it works when the keyboard is closed? maybe it works only when the keyboard is open? maybe it works when you hold it upside down in your left hand with the keyboard slid out and tilted at an angle of 20.445 degrees while standing on your right foot while your thumb lightly presses on some hard to reach part of the phone's body? sounds like something is loose/broken hardware wise...try one or both of the following:
a. change the sim cradle (hardware part required and experience with repairing hardware required)
b. change the ribbon cable between the sim cradle and the mainboard (hardware part required and experience with repairing hardware required)
if 4a or 4b don't work, move on the next point.
5. the motherboard may have developed a defect. this is a ***** of a problem to repair because the motherboard is essentially EVERYTHING. accept it, time to use your kaiser as a simple pda (as opposed to the pda phone it is meant to be), or chuck it and get a new device.
if you don't like what i have to say, you're welcome to search some more but try to post in existing threads instead of spawning a new one because there is a wealth of information already dispersed in numerous threads about sim problems. nuff said...
ASCIIker said:
i see at least FOUR threads pertaining to various SIM related issues on the first page of the general forum...what gives? shouldn't all of you be posting in one single thread so that a better collection of workarounds, fixes, and troubleshooting tips can be built?
here, i'll make things a bit easier. i have personally NEVER faced sim related problems but i'll consolidate whatever i've read on sim related issues on this wonderful forum over the last year:
1. some ATT users reported a long time ago that some sims were just plain incompatible with the kaiser. changing the radio might get it to work but the provider will often be willing to issue you a new sim so that should be first preference. if your sim worked once but doesn't work anymore, move on to the next point.
2. the metal bracket holding the sim down can become a bit loose...jamming a piece of paper between the bracket and the sim can help solve the problem. if it doesn't, then move on to the next point.
3. your operator may have fiddled with some tower/cell site settings. try the sim in another phone while remaining in the same cell site OR try a different cell site OR stay in the same cell site and try a different radio on your kaiser. if this doesn't help, move on to the next point.
4. does the sim work when the phone is in a certain position? maybe it works when the keyboard is closed? maybe it works only when the keyboard is open? maybe it works when you hold it upside down in your left hand with the keyboard slid out and tilted at an angle of 20.445 degrees while standing on your right foot while your thumb lightly presses on some hard to reach part of the phone's body? sounds like something is loose/broken hardware wise...try one or both of the following:
a. change the sim cradle (hardware part required and experience with repairing hardware required)
b. change the ribbon cable between the sim cradle and the mainboard (hardware part required and experience with repairing hardware required)
if 4a or 4b don't work, move on the next point.
5. the motherboard may have developed a defect. this is a ***** of a problem to repair because the motherboard is essentially EVERYTHING. accept it, time to use your kaiser as a simple pda (as opposed to the pda phone it is meant to be), or chuck it and get a new device.
if you don't like what i have to say, you're welcome to search some more but try to post in existing threads instead of spawning a new one because there is a wealth of information already dispersed in numerous threads about sim problems. nuff said...
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WORD! Things are getting crazy around here..
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ASCIIker said:
i see at least FOUR threads pertaining to various SIM related issues on the first page of the general forum...what gives? shouldn't all of you be posting in one single thread so that a better collection of workarounds, fixes, and troubleshooting tips can be built?
here, i'll make things a bit easier. i have personally NEVER faced sim related problems but i'll consolidate whatever i've read on sim related issues on this wonderful forum over the last year:
1. some ATT users reported a long time ago that some sims were just plain incompatible with the kaiser. changing the radio might get it to work but the provider will often be willing to issue you a new sim so that should be first preference. if your sim worked once but doesn't work anymore, move on to the next point.
2. the metal bracket holding the sim down can become a bit loose...jamming a piece of paper between the bracket and the sim can help solve the problem. if it doesn't, then move on to the next point.
3. your operator may have fiddled with some tower/cell site settings. try the sim in another phone while remaining in the same cell site OR try a different cell site OR stay in the same cell site and try a different radio on your kaiser. if this doesn't help, move on to the next point.
4. does the sim work when the phone is in a certain position? maybe it works when the keyboard is closed? maybe it works only when the keyboard is open? maybe it works when you hold it upside down in your left hand with the keyboard slid out and tilted at an angle of 20.445 degrees while standing on your right foot while your thumb lightly presses on some hard to reach part of the phone's body? sounds like something is loose/broken hardware wise...try one or both of the following:
a. change the sim cradle (hardware part required and experience with repairing hardware required)
b. change the ribbon cable between the sim cradle and the mainboard (hardware part required and experience with repairing hardware required)
if 4a or 4b don't work, move on the next point.
5. the motherboard may have developed a defect. this is a ***** of a problem to repair because the motherboard is essentially EVERYTHING. accept it, time to use your kaiser as a simple pda (as opposed to the pda phone it is meant to be), or chuck it and get a new device.
if you don't like what i have to say, you're welcome to search some more but try to post in existing threads instead of spawning a new one because there is a wealth of information already dispersed in numerous threads about sim problems. nuff said...
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hey you know ive tried all of your "solutions" before getting your reply and none of them worked and as far as a "collection" of tips, do you realize that there are over 15000 threads to search through just in the general section on this 1 phone with well over 5000 pertaining to these problems and i feel as though ive looked through almost half of them by using a forum search tool that is glitchy at best, so instead of padding your ego by beginning a reply to a thread with some smartass remarks why dont you realize that not everyone has such an advanced knowledge of mobile devices as you and either cut some slack towards people like me and what i imagine are several other people who have received equally offending replies from you or just dont reply at all because your sarcasm is both non productive and a waste of space, something that you yourself are complaining to me about
relax pal, you've missed my point and my point was not about how much or how little you searched but more importantly about keeping your posts in one of those existing "5000" threads you've mentioned.
secondly, my post was not aimed at you in particular but generally towards all the NEW sim related threads i could see on the first page of the general forum that day...it just happened to fall into your thread.
thirdly, as a new thread starter, it is important to list everything you've tried to solve your problem. being concise is good but not too good for the opening post of a new thread. i tried to help by listing everything i knew (so it would be unfair to say that i didn't try to help and was just trying to slam you). only now have you confirmed that you tried everything in my consolidated list instead of declaring it in the first post. your opening post was too short and all i get for trying to help with a consolidated list of tips is comments that ***I'M*** being a smartass?!? i think the following quoted line is from YOUR opening post:
"Any help is appreciated and if any extra information just let me know."
read my post again, theres nothing "smartass" in there, only help and lots of it. i kept my observation about the redundant threads to a one-liner and its not so harsh if you read it and it wasn't aimed at JUST YOU if you read it again.
regarding the built in forum search tool, i totally agree that it is rubbish and that is why most senior members including myself will recommend using google instead of xda's built in forum search tool. just append "xda" or "xda kaiser" somewhere in your google search string and you should get better results.
every new redundant thread just exacerbates the problem you yourself are facing, i.e. "too many threads about the same topic which makes sifting through the information difficult".