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Problems with SMS - anyone else face this issue?

Hi there
I've been having issues with SMS on WM6 - the OS issue is the only common thread between the two devices I have had trouble on.
It all started after I upgraded my JASJAM to WM6 using some of the cooked roms on this forum. Short Messaging would work for a while, and suddenly go on the blink with all messages you try to send remaining in the Outbox. You also dont RECEIVE SMSs. WHen I checked with the operator, they confirmed that messages are being recorded as 'delivered' on their system.
Funnily, I would start receiving SMSs every time I changed a ROM (and I tried out different WM6 ROMs for Tytn) before it went on the blink again. The problem also occurred across multiple networks when I roamed, so it wasnt network-specific.
The issue was not brought up at the Forum as I was planning to upgrade to Tytn II as soon as it came out. And so I did (upgrade, I mean) last week when the device was released in Dubai.
Surprise, surprise - I still have the SMS issue. I was able to send & receive SMSs for a while, and it went on the blink again after I received 2 or 3 replies.
I'm now convinced that this has something to do with the receipt of Short Messages, but would like to check if any of you have had the same issue.
For the record, I have tried the following to try and solve the issue:
1. Soft reset.
2. Deleting the Inbox folders on my storage card.
3. Turning Push Mail off (I assumed it has something to do with the two messaging streams being on all the time).
4. Clearing all SMS folders of their contents.
5. Turning "Delivery Notification" and "Use Unicode Messaging" options ON and OFF, together and separately.
6. Turning my SMS signature on and off.
In short - I've done everything short of a hard reset. I know the damn thing will work for a while if I hard-reset, but I cannot bring myself to redo all the customizations I have carried out on the new device, particularly the GPS software installation.
HELP!

Just a thought - did you try replacing the SIM card you are using?

dnts said:
Just a thought - did you try replacing the SIM card you are using?
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Its not network or SIM card specific - I have had the same problem with about 6 different SIMs (I travel a lot).

BUZZ!!!
Any ideas, guys?

Are we really talking about a jasjam?
That's not a TyTN II / Kaiser, is it?

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Are we really talking about a jasjam?
That's not a TyTN II / Kaiser, is it?
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We're talking about the Tytn II / Kaiser / P4550.
I mentioned JASJAM because I had the same issue when I upgraded to WM6 on my Jasjam.

i'm not being able to send sms with the default program... looking for an alternative to try
edit: installed sms threader for wm6.... that seemed to help, i was able to receive text from skype and from myself... of course the text i was originally trying to send still won't go...

I was finally able to send the sms to the contact I could not connect to before. instead of texting from inside of "messaging" and adding a contact as a recipient, I selected the "send text message" option in the contacts area. oh, the reason I think the sms threader helped pertains to the test sms I sent through skype being received directly afterward. there was a twenty minute gap between send and receive.... it could all just be coincidence.... and works when it feels like....

Figured out the issue - since the problem occurred on my Hermes after I upgraded to WM6 and continued on my TytnII I assumed it had to do with some of my add-on software not being WM6 compatible.
True enough it was a vcard application I have been using for about 3 years now across multiple PPC Phone devices that was causing the issue. Removed the software, reset and my problems have disappeared.
Now I need a stable, light vcard application that I can trigger from contacts. Suggestions, anyone?

well, i think the format i have the number i'm trying to text to is saved incorrectly.... what format works for people country to country?
i'm trying to reply to a norwegian text, and it never goes through. i know can receive them no problem... there is no issue for sending or receiving texts within US... did not have this problem under WM5...

Your text message cannot be sent.

I have an unlocked At&T tilt and my service t-mobile. Lately my text messages have not been able to send. I can recieve text but i cannot reply. I'm thinkin its cuz i dropped my phone before but maybe thats not the case..Does anybody know what the problem is? I have full reception nd everything also when i try to send text. Thanks

Do you have the funds to send it?

Yeah i have unlimited texting. ive had the phone for like 3 months now. nd im just now experiencing this problem

This might be a longshot, but...
Do you happen to know if the people you are having problems with "Replying" to are using a Samsung phone?
I have three contacts in my list and am unable to reply to them. They are all using Samsung phones. Instead I have to create a new message each time I reply to them, which is quite cumbersome as I normaly turn of my phone right after sending, so I'd first read the "Your message could not be sent" notification a day or so later
I've tried replying to them with dumbphones aswell with the same problem, so I don't think it's WM specific though

I have no idea...everytime my message doesnt send, it says "error sychronizing". i dont know what that means but i know it has somethin to do with the active sync

Error sync?
Uhmm... are you sure your not using Outlook or something else? Might be you just selected wrong... But here are the tipical reasons why a mobile cannot send a text message:
-Lack of funds
-Config error (wrong message service center number, but normally config is auto)
-Lack of network connectivity
-Other phone disable, unavailable, disconnected
-Provider error

my phones done that a few times I just wait a few mn then try again and it usually works but on the otherhand trying to send and recive pics has always been a pain for me.

I dont know...i still have this problem. Sometimes it sends, but most of the time it doesnt. it pisses me off. everytime it doesnt send, it always says "error synchronizing". Maybe its cuz i have an unlocked phone?

That my be it. Because you know, you're the only one with an unlocked phone.
Seriously Have you tried a Hard Reset. Back up you stuff first.
You may try another ROM just to see if that ROM has a bug.

Same problem
hi i been having the same problem
steps i tried:
turn phone off and on
soft and hard reset
flashing new roms
inserting a different sim card. and they have no problem texting
take out all sd cards battery and turn phone off and on
and i am still unable to text it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. full reception and everything i can receive text from everyone but i cant reply to none. girlfriend has a samsung blackjack but we never had a problem texting eachother before and friends with iphones various phones but i still cannot send a text!EVERYTHING ON THE PHONE IS FINE EXCEPT TEXT!!!!

weird, Im having the same problem. Sometimes It says error sending message try again. When I touch the try again it sends again sometimes it doesnt send and sometimes it does send but they person recieves the message like 4 times. Its annoying..it recently started to do this. About 2 weeks ago roughly. I dont really remember. Im thinking about switching radios but I dont know which one to use. Im in Houston any suggestions?

Faced that before too
Either
you don't have good signal
Or
the contact name contains <> brackets as shown or other symbols in his/her name
You can try sending to a number 1st without opening the contacts
If it works, you have no settings problem and try changing the contacts name displayed
if not
try hard resetting
Good luck
EDIT: the above is for cannot be sent msg
jdmxjoe said:
weird, Im having the same problem. Sometimes It says error sending message try again. When I touch the try again it sends again sometimes it doesnt send and sometimes it does send but they person recieves the message like 4 times. Its annoying..it recently started to do this. About 2 weeks ago roughly. I dont really remember. Im thinking about switching radios but I dont know which one to use. Im in Houston any suggestions?
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I get this message every once in a great while on a stock Tilt. It's frustrating when I've typed in a really long message! Only once have I noticed that I lost my connection/signal.
This problem is almost as annoying as the fact that I can sit perfectly still in my living room, and go from full signal to one bar a dozen times during a conversation.

same thing is happening with me. the last couple days i would get peoples text messages late, and then today it started, where i couldnt sent text messages, and i would get that "cant send text" message.
and ive upgraded to a new rom, then it started to happen, i dunno if its the rom, my phone, or maybe my sim card.

I started having this issue 2 days ago and its driving me nuts. everything else works but I can't seem to send any text messages out. I can get messages from anyone but sending it out... I keep getting"your text message cannot be sent"
I too have flashed 3 different roms, radios, tried other sims all to no avail..
any other suggestions?

I'm having the same problem, anyone have a fix?

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I'm having the same problem, anyone have a fix?
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I was able to fix mine by turning off 3g. I have an unlocked Tilt on tmobile. Some how 3g in the comm manager got turned on and that was causing my issue. Not sure how it got turned on since I didn't have a 3g button but with Advanced Config I added 3g button turned 3g off and now all my text's work just as they use to.

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I was able to fix mine by turning off 3g. I have an unlocked Tilt on tmobile. Some how 3g in the comm manager got turned on and that was causing my issue. Not sure how it got turned on since I didn't have a 3g button but with Advanced Config I added 3g button turned 3g off and now all my text's work just as they use to.
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I have a Tilt unlocked for Tmobile as well and am still having this problem since Friday. How exactly do you add the 3G button to the comm manager? Is there any other way to turn off the 3G setting? Thanks in advance.

MBro87 said:
I have a Tilt unlocked for Tmobile as well and am still having this problem since Friday. How exactly do you add the 3G button to the comm manager? Is there any other way to turn off the 3G setting? Thanks in advance.
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Disabling 3G worked for me too. I turned it off using Comm Manager and text messages started to work fine!
For those of you who may not have the same version of Comm Manager, here is the registry key that apparently controls this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\UMTS\OpMode
This is a dword value. Set it to 1 to disable 3G, and to 0 to reenable it.
Remember, that you will need to power cycle the phone after changing this value.
EDIT: It looks like T-Mobile is doing some testing (confirmed for Seattle area) in anticipation of launching 3G network some time in the future. I'm pretty sure that these are related. Looks like all phones that support 3G are having issues with sending text messages.

Eh I had a weird error once. This error happened while I was sending a message and the other person was sending me a message. So what happened, I sent it again after I received the other message. But it stayed in my outbox, so it kept on sending the same message to her every couple minutes lol. I had to like delete the whole messaging inbox to make it stop.

Repeated SMS from unknown sender..AT&T reps have no clue.

For 3 days now for a span of 1.5 hours a day I receive the same message from an unknown source. Ranging from every 2-5 minutes apart. Has anyone experienced this as well? Is this possibly from an AT&T Alert (QuickReach is what I was told) that no longer functions properly due to a flashed ROM?
Anyone ever heard of Quickreach?
Luckily I have unlimited SMS..so irritating.

Did you use a different SMSC # on your phone?
Happened to me once, because the dude that used the phone before me changed his smsc # on it.

There was another post on this that I ran across some time back. It stated that you might receive text messages like this when your phone is attempting to receive email through the push email function, but your phone is not connected to the internet. I do not have all of the info on this unfortunately, but I ran into it as well recently, and when I reconnected to MEdia Net, those texts stopped.
Hope this gives you some insight.

Aren't those the text messages you get after using OZ instant messaging? I used to get those when I used OZIM, as they updated its status, friend info, etc., and they would always stop as soon as I exited the application, or sometimes a few minutes afterward.
I'm not sure how you would stop this, but maybe flashing back to AT&T's stock ROM, and running OZ IM, then exiting the application fully would stop the messages. Then you could go back to whatever ROM you want. I'm not sure it would work, but it may be worth a shot. I hope that helps, and good luck,
Dave

[Q] Why do my SMS messages get stuck?

Whenever I send an SMS it is as if I can only send 1 per day. Let me explain, I can send an SMS fine but when I get a reply back then my response to it just sits in the outbox.
I exit the SMS program and then I cannot open it again (the option does not respond, as if it has hung, system works otherwise though) so I have to power off the phone, remove battery, remove SIM and then power it on with no SIM. I can then access the SMS program.
If I then delete the SMS from the Outbox and Deleted Items and Sent Items then sometimes (and only sometimes) the notification that the SMS has been sent will magically pop up. If that does not work then I power on the phone with a SIM and sometimes opening and closing the SMS program magically sends it, sometimes sending an SMS to myself fixes it and other times it just does not work at all and is very infuriating.
I am using the stock ROM and WM 6.1 with no additional programs installed.
What can I do to fix this and be able to send SMS messages normally? I even took my SIM out and put it in my old SE phone and I can SMS without any problems, only on the X1
Thanks.
ianwuk

That sounds strange indeed. Has it always been this way or did this error appear lately? If it appeared just lately I would try a hard reset. But if the problem has always been there I would try another sim card (demand a replacement from your service provider). How old ist your sim card? Old sim cards can cause several strange problems when used in current phones. It's easily possible that the card works with your old phone but causes troubles in combination with your X1.

The funny thing is that I took it to the Sony shop (I live in Thailand) and they tried a different SIM from a different network and it worked without any problems. They then put my SIM back in and it worked also.
My question is why does my SIM card not work well with the X1? I have always had this SMS problem since I got the phone (used).
Thanks for replying.
ianwuk

Something like that was happened to me too when I'm still using the stock ROM. Some people said that it is the problem with threaded view in WM6.1. But it ould be because of too many messages in my inbox or outbox. Since I'd like archive my messages, I backed up the message to new ROM and this problem never ever happpened again.

I recommend the following steps to narrow down the reason for this problem.
1. Perform a hard reset (or even reflash the stock rom)
2. Try using the phone on factory defaults (do not restore anything from a backup) for several days
3. If you still experience the problems try deactivating the threaded view for sms
4. Still not solved > order a new sim card
5. Received a new sim to no avail > might be a hardware defect
A few words concerning sim cards. Believe me, they can cause strange problems. There are people that used to have bad signal reception. After they ordered a new sim the problems were gone. Or cases where people could not get a working data connection > new sim solved it.
By the way, you told it in your post too:
"The funny thing is that I took it to the Sony shop (I live in Thailand) and they tried a different SIM from a different network and it worked without any problems. They then put my SIM back in and it worked also."
It seems that your sim card blocks the sms sending process from time to time. So to keep this post short, no matter to what result the above mentioned steps lead I would go for a new sim anyway.

I do indeed use threaded conversations. Stupid question, but how do I turn threaded conversation mode off? This is the first thing I want to try.
Thanks.
ianwuk

I have never tried this before. To look for how to do all of them. Googlefirst.
use registry editor, add
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
binaryvalue set to 1.
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Hmmmm, I was hoping it would be easier than that.
Thanks anyway.
ianwuk

To disable threaded view use SK Tools, Advanced Config or Xperia Tweak. The later two are freeware and downloadable here at XDA.

[Q] Rejected text message on CM 6.1.....

Hi Guys,
I'm running Cyanogenmod 6.1 (Android 2.2.1) on my G1.
I received a text message but the notification then said;
"Text message rejected due to storage full"
(or something along those lines)
My questions are;
1. Is there anyway to get that text message resent by the network? If the phone says it 'rejected it' then presumably this means it has a not-delivered status on the mobile providers SMS system?
2. Can text messages be saved to the memory card?
Thanks,
Mark.

Not as far as I know. I had something similiar happens to me and I could never re-receive it.

This happened to me once and it never, ever came through. I gave up on it. Though a few weeks later it had happened again for a different reason. I done a manual search roam, tried to join a different network, it failed, put me back to my original network and the latest message came through. It worked a good couple of times for me.

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This happened to me once and it never, ever came through. I gave up on it. Though a few weeks later it had happened again for a different reason. I done a manual search roam, tried to join a different network, it failed, put me back to my original network and the latest message came through. It worked a good couple of times for me.
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I too thought this would work but it didn't...
Which network did it work on?

It worked for me on giffgaff. Though when it didn't work, I had left the phone for like 2 days before actually trying anything like that to retrieve rejected ones. When I got the reject message the last few times, I cleared space then done the roam thing straight away and it came through.
I don't need to be clearing space anymore really though. I just keep an eye on it even though I'm now flashing ROMs all the time. That roam change thing was when my a2ext wasn't configured/working properly and I was in the middle of conversations.

Arghh, this just happened to me with being on a magpieless Froyo rom and just being on a market binge.
Who's fault is this, the rom/phone not sending the correct response to the network, or the network being a ****?
I'm sure it should work, it used to be fine back in the day when texts went on the sim and you could have 10 so it happened all the time.

Its pants. The phone is supposed to send a confirmation back to the network of successful receipt. So either something isn't working with that or the networks aren't processing as they should.