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ive been told by the local att stores that spokane wa is the next city to get 3g i was just woundering if you guys knew of any way to find out how soon its coming?

fb.knight said:
ive been told by the local att stores that spokane wa is the next city to get 3g i was just woundering if you guys knew of any way to find out how soon its coming?
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and also can someone tell me when Chattanooga TN will get 3g service

Xtreme80 said:
and also can someone tell me when Chattanooga TN will get 3g service
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When the cubs win the world series.

Edge, but no 3G in Tennessee At&t

Hello all-
I just got in my Diamond today and after working on it about an hour, I still can only get Edge (and very small reception and SSLLOOWW data). I currently have a tilt with a flashed ROM running 6.1 and got perfect 3G reception from it here at my desk. I use At&t here. Could the lack of the 850 band be my issue. Please give me some clues or point me to a tutorial to get everything set up to par for my Diamond. I've already searched this whole forum.
Thanks a lot!

Oh dear here we go again....if you had done a search you would have saved yourself so much hassle.
The Diamond you have wont support 3G on AT&T because its missing a £G attenna...even though your settings will show that it can support the band for AT&T 3G but in reality you CANNOT get 3G access with the Diamonds that are out at the moment.
Only way your going to be able to get 3G in America is by waiting for the proper American version of the phone...as to when its out...could be july/August.

Well...Thats the bad part of me that gets way too excited. I'm going to try to return it. I'm sure my fiance that im marrying in 3 weeks will love to hear the news of my lack of research. Thanks!

LOL its ok...its just been explained a few times on here that the Diamonds that are on the market arent really suitable for the American 3G market...your just gonna have to wait a bit for the American version.

For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.

bzowk said:
For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.
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No problems buddy, its ok...thats what we are here for...to help each other out.
Apologies if i was a bit abrupt in my first post...been a long day

no 3g
for what it is worth, i have the same issue with no 3g but i have edge and so far find it fine for what i need it for. For others, the added speed that you get may be worth it. I love my Diamond otherwise, despite the battery. I will however get the usa version when it comes out, mainly for reception purposes since i feel the lack of 850 band lessens the reception a little... But so far I love it. Btw i have the ME rom which is fast and smooth and have no issues so far other than i cant hide the SIM contacts even with the tweak.

switch from AT&T service?

I have a dilemma and I was hoping some of the senior member could give me a little feedback. I've been an ATT customer for years and today something unusual happened. I got a taste of 3g in my home area (york, PA) and it was delightful (i was giddy like a little kid with a new toy). Pretty much north, south, east and west of me has 3g, but not old york. I was about to do a speed test on my laptop, after some browsing and funking around with my phone, but then it went back to edge . I've been waiting a while for 3g access and it seems klike I'm never going to get it, so I'm considering moving to another carrier. Do you guys have any suggestions or any feedback you can give me about your carriers, (US only please).

Yes, Change carriers., Because T-Mobile JUST released 3G in New York. So your town will get it in no time.
That doesn't leave much.
Now since you are posting this in the Kaiser Section, I'm going to assume you run a Tilt. The Tilt is a GSM phone, you have two choices for GSM service. AT&T and T-Mobile. Which means AT&T, unfortunately, is your best bet.

I'm in york, Pennsylvania so that won't really help but thanks. It seems like I do have 3G because my coworkers phone says 3G now. but it keeps switching back to edge. Also is there a way to get it to say 3g instead of the little h symbol?

dsoler702 said:
I'm in york, Pennsylvania so that won't really help but thanks. It seems like I do have 3G because my coworkers phone says 3G now. but it keeps switching back to edge. Also is there a way to get it to say 3g instead of the little h symbol?
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"H" Is 3.5G. Or more specifically If it says "H" you have better then 3G.
But to answer your question directly.
If you have Advanced Config Look in there under Data Connections for HSDPA Icon, and Disable it.
Also, don't complain to much about switching between 3G and Edge. There are some Senior Member that don't have 3G at ALL, right Scotchua?

so H is really better than 3G

dsoler702 said:
so H is really better than 3G
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Yes it is. AT&T hypes "3G" because it is a recognizable buzzword, but "H" is above 3G in speed.

T-Mobile, Los Angeles fake "HSPA+"???

Always Include:
Carrier: T-Mobile USA
Phone: Nexus One..
Running: Cyanogen 6 RC2 + Froyo Radio + Amon recovery
I seriously don't understand what's going on. I live in Los Angeles and when I run the Speedtest.net application on my N1, I NEVER have seen my download speed go above 2.0 Mb/s on "HSPA".
I see people posting pictures of their speed tests in Las Vegas getting more than 4.0 download and 1.5 upload.
Is something wrong with my phone here? I run tests infront of friends and look retarded when my speed level dips down to 0.98 and there running some crappy AT&T thats beating me!!!
(Is GPS supposed to be on when selecting a server because its selecting some Arizona servers when im in Los Angeles!!!)
Thanks for the 'noob' help. =P

Which FroYo radio? Have you tried the Korean radio?
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

Honestly, Los Angeles and all of SoCal have very inconsistent signal strength, this is even more true the further West you are. The closer you are to the beach the worse signal will be either because you're just too far from a tower or there's just a big ****ing hill blocking your signal. Vegas is just big open flat space in the middle of the desert vs. SoCal's endless maze of mini mountains and valleys. I was just out in Vegas last month also, and my speeds were only slighly better than LA (but at the same time reception is not the best inside casinos).
check if you're in a dead zone: http://deadcellzones.com/t-mobile.html
According to the T-Mo HSPA+ zone info these CA cities currently should have live HSPA+:
Anaheim
Burbank
Glendale
Irvine
Los Angeles
Long Beach
Ontario
Future:
Oakland
Sacramento
San Diego
San Francisco
San Jose
Now, anyone from LA knows "Los Angeles" is a pretty vague description of it's coverage. My guess is it's probably limited to downtown LA since you could be in the middle of Hollywood and have a "Los Angeles" mailing address/zip code. However, I live on the border of Burbank and I've never gotten above 3.5Mb down, and only once or twice. I average around 2-2.5; and that's with -60 to -70dbm, arguably some of the strongest coverage I get in SoCal. Actually, when I head into Burbank for errands or in the direction of the airport, signal is terrible.
If you're speed is really just unbearably ****ty compared to what it should be on just HSPA, not HSPA+ you should call T-Mobile and hopefully you get someone on the phone who can do some of their OTA black magic.
Edit: Just noticed the T-Mobile website explicitly lists those live cities as having HSPA+ coverage. The best I get anywhere in LA is HSDPA, even Burbank - so I'll be calling up T-Mobile today myself to see what's up with that.

I knnow for sure la description is vague. I live in Pomona and the fastest I get is a 1.5mb/1mb. Last week I was super surprised a the speed I was gettinng in Rowland heights! I was at a restaurant. And I wanted to check my speeds .. I was getting almost 5mb/3mb. That's the fastest I've seen on my nexus.

bestofrhcp said:
I knnow for sure la description is vague. I live in Pomona and the fastest I get is a 1.5mb/1mb. Last week I was super surprised a the speed I was gettinng in Rowland heights! I was at a restaurant. And I wanted to check my speeds .. I was getting almost 5mb/3mb. That's the fastest I've seen on my nexus.
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what the hell, I get less than 1mb/s download from there >.< actually anywhere for that matter... what should I do? call t-mobile? anyone know what I should ask them?

Even though the software (HSPA+) is in place for Los Angeles area but some of back haul has not been upgraded yet.

Perhaps the problem is that our phones simply do not support HSPA+, which they do not. They support up to ~7M down on HSDPA.
T-mobile is just running around saying they've upgraded their network and to enjoy faster speeds, yet at the same time is saying the G2 will be the first device on their network to be able to even use HSPA+.
Anyone care to clue me in on how a HSDPA rated phone is going to have improved network speed on a network it isn't compatible with and isn't completely live?

I got a text message saying that its up in my area I am in the west valley of the san fernando valley I get 4 dl speeds at work in calabasas but at home in encino I get 700 kb at best I think its tower to tower
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Yeah this is nuts. I live in Glendale and I never see above 1.0mb/s....just ridiculous.
Mountains and everything are ruining the reception and yeah I love closer to the water!
What the heck is going on Tmo!?!?

akalior88 said:
I got a text message saying that its up in my area I am in the west valley of the san fernando valley I get 4 dl speeds at work in calabasas but at home in encino I get 700 kb at best I think its tower to tower
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Just today?
I'm in the valley on the edge of burbank/studio city and get decent speed, but not HSPA+ and yeah encino/sherman oaks sucks ass out but the 405/101.
Your phone will hate you as it switches from 3G-Edge all day in that area.
mortal300 said:
Yeah this is nuts. I live in Glendale and I never see above 1.0mb/s....just ridiculous.
Mountains and everything are ruining the reception and yeah I love closer to the water!
What the heck is going on Tmo!?!?
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Natural topography?

SeEsAw12 said:
Which FroYo radio? Have you tried the Korean radio?
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I am using regular froyo radio recommended in cyanogens cm6 thread. Can I flash Korean radio on top? If I get issues can I just go back and flash regular froyo radio?
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mortal300 said:
I am using regular froyo radio recommended in cyanogens cm6 thread. Can I flash Korean radio on top? If I get issues can I just go back and flash regular froyo radio?
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Yeah, you can do all that.
A lot of people have reported faster speeds on the new radio.

The radio increased my download speeds. I usually top out at about 700Kbps down/ 1300 up around Placentia.
After installing, those numbers flip-flopped

SeEsAw12 said:
Yeah, you can do all that.
A lot of people have reported faster speeds on the new radio.
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I can flash the radio without doing a wipe and clean install of CM6-RC3?
So in other words im using CM6 right now with Froyo radio...I can just throw the update.zip and flash that korean radio and it will still continue to work?? (And also go backwards incase I dont like the difference..)

yes, you can install the latest radio 5.08 and then go back to the 4.xx if you choose so. ROM is not associated with radio. radio controls all the wireless/signals in the cellphone.

mortal300 said:
I can flash the radio without doing a wipe and clean install of CM6-RC3?
So in other words im using CM6 right now with Froyo radio...I can just throw the update.zip and flash that korean radio and it will still continue to work?? (And also go backwards incase I dont like the difference..)
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Yes sir.
You DO NOT have to wipe.
and you can go back whenever you please.

whoisthedrizzle said:
Perhaps the problem is that our phones simply do not support HSPA+, which they do not. They support up to ~7M down on HSDPA.
T-mobile is just running around saying they've upgraded their network and to enjoy faster speeds, yet at the same time is saying the G2 will be the first device on their network to be able to even use HSPA+.
Anyone care to clue me in on how a HSDPA rated phone is going to have improved network speed on a network it isn't compatible with and isn't completely live?
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I'd also like to know the answer to this question. I'm strongly considering picking up the Nexus S and would like to know if when hspa+ comes to the city where I live if my N1 or NS would see a big jump in download speed despite not "having hspa+"?
On my N1 I get no more than 1Mb/s down. If that number would jump to 7Mb/s when hspa+ comes to town and can definitely rationalize the Nexus S not being hspa+ compatible. 7 times my current speed will do.
Can someone please explain how this really works?

AT&T vs T-Mobile in Houston, TX

The title says it all. I am moving to the Houston/Baytown area next month and will be switching from sprint to either of the two. I was wondering if anyone on here had some advice as to which one had the upper hand in 3G and LTE coverage. I've read that AT&T was fairly good in that area, but the data from the website was not too recent. Thanks in advance for any feedback!

RootDragon said:
The title says it all. I am moving to the Houston/Baytown area next month and will be switching from sprint to either of the two. I was wondering if anyone on here had some advice as to which one had the upper hand in 3G and LTE coverage. I've read that AT&T was fairly good in that area, but the data from the website was not too recent. Thanks in advance for any feedback!
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Go Straight Talk or h2o wirless as they both use 3G from att towers

Iph0ne27 said:
Go Straight Talk or h2o wirless as they both use 3G from att towers
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thanks for the quick reply! I was seriously considering Straight Talk and may have to look into getting it now.

RootDragon said:
thanks for the quick reply! I was seriously considering Straight Talk and may have to look into getting it now.
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Great choice!

XDA is for discussion of mobile devices themselves, not cell carriers and their coverage. For that reason, moved to Off-topic.

TeeJay3800 said:
XDA is for discussion of mobile devices themselves, not cell carriers and their coverage. For that reason, moved to Off-topic.
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Thanks for the correction. Sorry for the wrong section post and thanks for the relocation.