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Does anyone have a clean WM 6.1 ROM for the Rhodium? Something that has no HTC enhancements.
Like this 6.5.1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551282&highlight=clean
What I actually looking for is a completely clean ROM with only QuickGPS, USB connection popup & HTC Keyboard. No other extras. Anything like that out there?
I did a lot of searching but found nothing. Ill even cook if Im forced to. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance!
There are some "LITE" roms out. But I do not think they are that stripped out (only Quickgps, USB Connection & keyboard).
Try contacting At0mang. He might be able to customize a ROM for you.
Or you can try one of his LITE roms (Fusion V5.5 Lite CHome HTC Dialer)
clean rom with Touchflo is what im looking for, either wm6.1 or 6.5.
if anyone has a link, plz be nice post them..
May not be exactly what you're looking for, but it is a very clean, lightweight, reliable 6.1 ROM. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4472884&postcount=39
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May not be exactly what you're looking for, but it is a very clean, lightweight, reliable 6.1 ROM. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4472884&postcount=39
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This rom does not support anything else but the stock hardware keyboard layout, also its based on a Raphael ROM.
Yes thing is the best alternative for WM6.1 a.t.m and its what I am using. But it has lots for things which I dont use and they just take up space. Like : RSS, Worldcard, Streaming media, Touch Off etc, and it doesnt have HTC Keyboard. On a clean start the ROM has 350MB storage space. But the WM 6.5.1 one that I linked above has 385MB (and it already has HTC Keyboard and USB popup).
Ive pmed At0mang, lets see what he says.
Please update the thread with your findings. I'm in the same boat as you. Looking for the Cleanest, Latest and most Stable build with just enough programs and cabs installed to make all the TP2 features functional with Manila 2.1.
I don't get it. I used to have a Hermes (64MB TOTAL RAM) with duttythroy's SUPA DUPA LITE (WM6.1) and after boot it would ahve 30MB Free RAM. I can't find beyond 145MB free RAM on the cleanest of the cleanest and the lightest of the lightest Rhodium ROMS, a device with 288 MB RAM (This is ofcourse with no Manila)
Do the drivers really take up that much space?
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Please update the thread with your findings. I'm in the same boat as you. Looking for the Cleanest, Latest and most Stable build with just enough programs and cabs installed to make all the TP2 features functional with Manila 2.1.
I don't get it. I used to have a Hermes (64MB TOTAL RAM) with duttythroy's SUPA DUPA LITE (WM6.1) and after boot it would ahve 30MB Free RAM. I can't find beyond 145MB free RAM on the cleanest of the cleanest and the lightest of the lightest Rhodium ROMS, a device with 288 MB RAM (This is ofcourse with no Manila)
Do the drivers really take up that much space?
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From what I know is that 288MB is not the total amount of usable RAM either. Some of it is video RAM, but how much I dont know. On the Diamond for example the RAM was 192MB. 64MB Video memory and 128MB RAM.
As for the ROM (512MB) most of it gets wasted on things I dont use. The max Ive found free in a ROM was 385MB. That was the link I posted above. Its a WM 6.5.1 ROM but as such not very stable.
I am making a list of things I want removed and others that I want kept, I will post them here as soon as Im done.
So far thanks for everyone's support.
Edit : Here is what I would like the ROM to be like
Based on WM 6.1
All HTC things removed (even thier 3G icons & Commanager, I will install my own) execpt for USB connection popup, G-sensor calibrator, Kinetic scrolling, The new bluetooth stack, HTC End key, HTC Large start menu & Camera.
Some Microsoft things that should be removed : Calculator (if nothing depends on it), Office Mobile, Windows Live & Messenger, Games, extra themes (leave only one, the default one), Ringtones (leave only one, the default one), All the non essential stuff in "My Documents" folder, like Pictures, Wallpapers, Templates for camera & MMS.
Things in the settings folder that I want removed : Encryption, Clear Storage & Connection Setup (the thing that sets-up carrier setting. These I can do myself).
Based on WM 6.5
All the above plus remove IE6 (not PIE) because most of the web plugins dont work with it and I use Opera anyway. Only reason to keep PIE is because I need it for LogMeIn. Also remove honey-comb start menu and use the default WM one.
One thing to keep in mind is that I have a Swedish Touch Pro 2. So I would like to keep the files require to do swedish input via the hardware keyboard.
I dont really think anything else could be removed without causing harm to the basic functions. Although Im open for suggestions.
So any ROM developer up for it ?
Edit 2 : Some other things that can be removed : Error Reporting, Help, Remote Desktop & Search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
WM6.1_21048_M2.1 Jackos Oldschool ROM v1.1
it's good
Hm, the last recommended thread just says 'nothing here' in all posts
Did you ever get one?
I really want a blank WM 6.1 with just the enablers for the various hardware features (GSM, UMTS/HSPA, GPS, aGPS, WLAN, camera, hardware keyboard, etc). No HTC keyboard, thank you very much
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Noob on this forum.
I was wanting to know if there is a custom ROM out there only using SBP Mobile Shell 3.5?
I have tried a few different ROMs but I keep crashing whenever I put SPB on there. And All of them eat a lot of memory when multiple UI are loaded.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Ro
ROBOHOLIC said:
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Noob on this forum.
I was wanting to know if there is a custom ROM out there only using SBP Mobile Shell 3.5?
I have tried a few different ROMs but I keep crashing whenever I put SPB on there. And All of them eat a lot of memory when multiple UI are loaded.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Ro
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I don't think there's going to be one in the future, unless SPB provides Mobile Shell for free. Chef's cannot provide ROMs with commercial software on them -- that's frowned upon.
They may be able to provide a ROM with a trial-version of SPB Mobile Shell, but then the user is either gonna have to purchase a license or uninstall it. Then they're left with a basic 6.5 ROM with Titanium, which is something a user can start with rather than end up with!
i have ran SPB shell on a few different roms ie. TwoPumpChumps rom and a few others without a problem..only drawback is that ram hangs around 50-58 % when running for a while. but everything works smoothly
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i have ran SPB shell on a few different roms ie. TwoPumpChumps rom and a few others without a problem..only drawback is that ram hangs around 50-58 % when running for a while. but everything works smoothly
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What Cook, said. See my setup below. I am running NRG Photon Titanium(non TF3D ROM).
Perfect ROM for SPB Shell
I too tried a million different ROMS and finally, it was agent_47's RHODIO ROM that I loaded up and stayed smooth with SPB on top. Camera works, I can watch a normal divx compressed, 700 Meg movie file on TCPNP or whatever that player's called, and I'm using 5 fully loaded desktops on lifestyle and one on professional. It's a dream setup! Just use a class 6 micro sdhc and install everything there NOTHING into the device.
As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?
What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?
That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.
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That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.
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i could see your signature rom is Lauretius 3.5, that is at the moment by daeron's benchmark the fastest ROM, if you want something else faster than that, get yourself a HD2.
please stop spamming the thread with your "I want this!!! I want that!!!"
I cooked my one from Ervius... fast and stable 28004 (I will upgrade soon)... no htc ****ty staff (except some tools). I can post you somewhere while I do not share it public until one bug is solved - when I open SMS, close and open another, outlook shuts down. But if you do not mind about this little bug and if you are able to customize your startmenu (via copying the items in windows/start menu folder)... it is not problem you could be my first tester
otherwise - i can share one significant information - after SR only 29% of RAM occupied
I want the fastest and stable ROM without the buggy and slow TouchFlo 3D interface!
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everyone wants the same like u
to be honest im also sick and tired of all this HTC customizing, TouchFlo, Sense etc.. Perhaps it makes sense on HD2, Ive had one for a couple of days and it was moving ok with its SnapDragon of 1GHz, but for HD Sense interface is simply unusable for a regular business-like usage...
Just use wm6.5's own interface Titanium.
Or even faster, use the standard wm6.1 interface
Just uncheck TouchFlow or Sense in your settings->today menu
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What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?
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SPB works great on any ROM. just switch off the touchflo/Sence.
The only prob is you cant use a ROM with HTC messaging in a threaded mode.
A half a year i heaving trouble with flashing new roms and they all unstable ... I appreciate the time of developers ,they wants to do something really useful, however to me it does not enough good for everyday use ..
So, i finished my job with official release of rom for HD and I installed a new SPB mobile shell and that is most stable combination for me..All shortcuts that I want is there... No bugs...
Or try iPhoneToday, the fastest UI I've ever tested, and very simple. Perhaps too simple for fans of SPB, but I like iPhoneToday.
Well, I would say nothing will satisfy you unless you upgrade your device aka HD2. Cos the combination of WM6.5, WM6.5.3 with Sense 2.5 is meant for higher spec HD2.
I would think WM6.5.1 with Sense 2.1 is still acceptable.
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As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?
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Get Dutty's 4.3 for 6.1 thats the fastest you can possibly have, fast TF3D haven't spot any bugs but yeah, its for 6.1 so it wont have the added features like the Manila 2.5 (using Dutty's Holy Grail) although its a lot slower, its manageable and if you use Titanium only, its actually fast.
Then there's the PointUi..although its looks cool at start, fast by the way...but i got bored of it faster than the default titanium and TF3D.
Default Titianium is good with 6.5 TouchFlo interface with sliding left or right is crap after using it in realworld situations.
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
try this
there is ROM without manila http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
I use it with SPBMS
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which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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if you're just going to use spb mobile shell, no need to look for a rom that is super light, even if it has manila, just disable it and you should be good to go. problems sometimes with super light is they may have 'overlooked' some parts resulting to a rom with bugs.
Like I said a while ago, Dutty's 4.3 final was the fastest I have tested. disable TF3D then it wont use up additional resources and maintain somewhere 17%-20% (with TF3D around 33%) what you should be looking for is a very stable one and so far this 4.3 is bug free. then you can enjoy ur spb interface. but feel free to try the latest release by others...just my two cents.
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which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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Johnpatcher. Its old, but awsome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972
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which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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I am using Topix 3.1.1 ( windows 6.1 ) with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, i have about 116 mb free memory ( HTC Touch HD ).
I have tried many roms and Topix is great with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.
Get a rom with manila 2.1, live happy.
Manila 2.5 is cool but too slow on this device.
Hi.
I have a HTC TyTN II and would love to nail down what software I should use, and if any of you pros could help me out I would really appreciate it.
My goal is to run the latest [stable/fast] Windows mobile 6.5 release with the highest functioning Android build on top.
From what i've seen my choice is this ROM: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767 - ahmedfikry wm6.5 light rom v28217
From the thread it seems there aren't any glaring bugs. This is the latest WM build correct? What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
I notice it's a 'light' build which is fine - can you suggest any 'must have' or 'replacement' apps that would improve usability? EG; TouchFLO, a utility to access more settings, a replacement browser[Skyfire/Opera], a utility that automatically closes open programs, program to save battery life - anything like that - I want to avoid 'bloat' like some 'loaded' ROMs have and not have useless duplicate programs, speed and usability is preferred over eye candy [the exception being any great games that run on kaiser ]
Any suggestion on a GPS software that does not require a data plan? I may be limited since i only have a 2GB SD card.
And as far as ANDROID goes I believe i'm looking at the DONUT builds since I want sleep/camera/wifi (don't care about bluetooth) - [is DONUT the build with the most functions?] - which is the 'fastest' / 'lightest' of the DONUT builds that still has the highest amount of features working?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587116 - Hero blend?
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613049 - Tattoo?
I apologize in advance if any of my questions were very nooblike, but thank you for your patience!
Moved as not ROM Development.
Thank you for moving my thread to the appropriate subforum, I had posted in the ROM section as I had assumed that most cooks and those familiar with ROM quirks would be browsing that section and be able to answer the questions I had.
This ties in loosely with what I was going to ask, so I'll reply as well. I just inherited a TyTn II from work, needed constant recalibration so I don't know if it has a hardware or a software fault. Software is easier to fix, I just want to throw on a base package with a good app selection. My ideal is to keep it as fast as it can be.
As I understand it, the Kaiser/TyTn II doesn't have enough grunt to run WiMo 6.5 OR Android 2.1 at an acceptable level. Is this correct? From what I have seen, all the cool stuff doesn't yet work on Android, any version. If I wanted to develop for the project, then I'd put Android on, but I want my phone to "just work"... well, as well as a WiMo phone can.
I'm willing to accept WiMo 6.1, maybe with skinning, etc.. heck it's a free phone, just needs a battery, stylus, and maybe a new digitizer and interpreter board(whatever that bit is called). For me and what I do, I'd be after the following stuff:
video/audio player
SSH/PuTTy type shell access
RDP/VNC
GPS mapping, turn by turn stuff
Facebook/Twitter integration/applications
Don't know if any/all of this stuff is included in any of the baked ROM's out there... Have I just missed a nice table of each available ROM, and what it has to offer?
Does Win6.5 / Android really take more horse power?
If so I may consider the latest 'official' 6.1 ROM - but i was hoping that 6.5 actually would be optimized/improved for performance over 6.1.
Here is the deal with WM 6.5 and Android. The Kaiser is an old phone, 2+ years since release, but that translates to 10+ in phone years. There are no " official upgrades " nor will there be. The Kaiser was left behind by the Raphael and even more now by the Rhodium.
All the 6.5 and Android roms on this site are all " cooked " (hacked ) roms , cooked up by various chefs here at XDA. They have taken dumped roms from other phones and have taken out the crap and have added better features . They are faster by virtue of less carrier and HTC crap in them. But they are still " hacked " versions and need to be considered beta versions.
First your phone has to be unlocked and Spl'd. " Jailbroken " if that iis a more familiar term. And then reflashed with the rom of your choice.
Android will not run on the Kaiser, a hacked version must be run off of a partitioned SD card and on top of WM, so naturally it runs a a high resource cost and very tenuously at best.
There are some very nice, fast and stable roms out there to run after you have unlocked your phone, that blow the doors off of any " official " rom. Check the rom dev page for roms with features and looks that interest you. And check peoples signatures for what people are running.
I use stylez black v4 for my everyday rom and jjblasters 6.5 rom when I want to run a " hey look at me and my cool 6.5.3 rom running on a Kaiser " rom
My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?
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My TyTN II is an unlocked version (from Taiwan) - and i've already experimented with flashing ROM's successfully - just looking what software to choose for my 'final build'
It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
What is the difference between the 23XXX and 28XXX branches of WM 6.5?
Any popular or recommended 'lite' UC packs?
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Hey, I can confirm that the 1.6 build is stable and working wine, and yes it boots from the sd card. I have a class 4 card 2gb and it is quite smooth, but they do recommend a class 6 card. So for me there is no performance issue.
As to the wm 6.5 question: I have ahmedfikry's light rom with Opera added, and it is smooth, fast, nice and all that jazz. No worries, the difference between 23xxx and 28xxx i do not know.
Best of luck, much fun to be had.
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It was my impression that ANDROID didn't run on TOP of WM but was bootloaded from within WM and afterwards WM would be closed? Is this incorrect?
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Regarding the abouve question - so I think I am going to 'SD' install Android Polymod 'on top' of ahmedfikry wm6.5 [unless you suggest another ROM meeting my needs] (I don't want to NAND Android until all the features I want are working flawlessly)
There is no speed difference in OS operation between SD an NAND install besides initial boot time correct?
How would you choose to switch between the OS when you have WinMo + an SD Android Installation?
And again any recommendations for a nice UCPack that won't sacrifice any speed / add duplicate functionality bloat?
I've been doing nothing but testing different roms and androids for my Kaiser for the past few days.
Ive also tried both SD and NAND install of Android (polymod).
But I must say that it runs much faster on NAND than SD. (Dunno if my SD card is just slow or not. 4 gb.)
Right now I am using HyperDragon 6.5, Im quite impressed by it.
(This is for all android builds I could find: )
But I do indeed enjoy Android more, but I got some big problems with it.
The battery was drained so much quicker + didn't show real battery status.
And I had various luck dialing. Sometimes it just wouldn't work, which was why I changed back to Winmo.
I haven't tested polymod 2.1d on sd, but its 2x faster with polymod 2.1d on nand than polymod 2.1g on SD.
The one who performed best was Warm Donut, but lacked some stuff.
The battery time was about the same with power savings on. Poor.
Lacking the ability to dial with Android made me change, but I enjoy the OS more than WinMo.
My next phone will be with Android, but thats going to take some time.
hello aznphatb0i
thanks for your message
Kaiser can run wm 6.5 great after being "unlocked" to flash cooked roms
my roms here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618767
i keep cooking the newest & update the links there
are the newest from COM 5 branch with finger friendly user interface (larger bottom bar with start flag on bottom left)
latest now is 23563
there are other COM branchs out there, but i do not cook them, some cause bugs..others from COM2 are new with small bottom bar (older look) but i do not cook them because i like the interface of COM 5 better
My roms are "light" to be fastest & allow most free space.. all additional applications to be added by cabs according to user prefernce
all the links for the cabs & what they do are in the first post in my thread
as for GPS, i use TOM TOM & iGo 8 ...both run fine & loaded on 2 GB card
I do not have much to say about Android, i like windows OS...when Andriod is perfected later I may consider looking into it
if you like my work & appreciate the time & effort i put into this...please DONATE by clicking the link below in my signature
hope this helps
Hi everyone,
I'm the (proud?) owner of a HTC Blackstone 'Touch HD', and nowadays I don't know what to think about my phone. Of course, I've done all the flashing and tweaking, but it's still not satisfying me. Although the Blackstone Android development seems very promising to me, I also have my doubts about a 'final' build in the future.
The real problem I have is slow texting, Opera opening slow and I am just dealing with an in-responsive system.
The HTC Touch HD is obviously a very slow phone, having tried different ROMs (Topix, Energy, Miri, Dutty and some more), both Windows Mobile 6.1 and 6.5. I fell in love for the agenda of 6.5 (the Sense edition, I have no clue if it's implanted in WM), so I don't want to ever go back to 6.1. Though, I realize that, if I want a faster phone, I should probably go back and downgrade my phone. What I am looking for is a ROM which satisfy me with speed and agility (no restarts all the time, because memory is slipping), and can provide me my valuable agenda in a pleasant way.
I would like if some of you could give me some valuable advise. Because I'm about to throw my phone in the trashcan.
Before you are confronting me with some of the greatest ROMs; I'm not 'really' in love with Sense UI, and if turning it off and using the standard WM 6.5 menu, speeds up my phone, I will do it. But is the build-in agenda satisfying enough for my needs?
In the far future I probably will buy an iPhone 3GS (4G?), just for the fact that is a phone which doens't crash and goes slow all the time. I will be throwing a little tweaker inside of me away, sadly.
Regards,
Aram (the Netherlands)
Currently using: Miri WM 6.5 | 18.0 WWE with Manila version 2.5.19222911.0 and Radio version 1.17.25.09 (should I update this?). Using an Exchange-server for my e-mail and agenda (Google Mail)!
Did you try searchig for a Calendar-Agenda Application to install before Upgrading or downgrading your phone's core software? Custom Rom don't bring anything new that Blackstone could do already as it came out of the box, imho. Then again other people do like to customize it a lot. if you do want to bin your phone, send it my way, I'll give it a home.
What I really liked about the WM6.5 roms was and still is the fact that in a single click I can look up my appointments and notes.
You are quite right about the 'why would you flash'-thing. Sometimes I've the feeling that I really downgraded my phone, instead of giving it the boost I intended to.
Again this is an opinionated query which is frowned upon in XDA as people will have different views on which is best creating endless long threads with no real result. For these reasons I am closng this thread