SPL questions - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Apparently the theme I want to switch to requires a custom SPL. I have some questions about that process. First, which SPL should I use: HardSPL or the Danger/Haykuro SPL?
I've read that flashing a new SPL is more dangerous than rooting/flashing ROMs and poses a higher risk of bricking your device, is that true?
As for the installation procedure, I was going to use the guide at towards the bottom of this page. Is that the best method to use? I'm new to all of this, so thanks all for your patience!

TeeJay3800 said:
Apparently the theme I want to switch to requires a custom SPL. I have some questions about that process. First, which SPL should I use: HardSPL or the Danger/Haykuro SPL?
I've read that flashing a new SPL is more dangerous than rooting/flashing ROMs and poses a higher risk of bricking your device, is that true?
As for the installation procedure, I was going to use the guide at towards the bottom of this page. Is that the best method to use? I'm new to all of this, so thanks all for your patience!
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haykuro, and make sure you flash the radio first. Find yourself a good guide. I recommend theunlockr.com

TeeJay3800 said:
Apparently the theme I want to switch to requires a custom SPL. I have some questions about that process. First, which SPL should I use: HardSPL or the Danger/Haykuro SPL?
I've read that flashing a new SPL is more dangerous than rooting/flashing ROMs and poses a higher risk of bricking your device, is that true?
As for the installation procedure, I was going to use the guide at towards the bottom of this page. Is that the best method to use? I'm new to all of this, so thanks all for your patience!
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i recommend the danger spl too. but "danger" is really an extreme term. if you read up on it, reread it again, do EVERY instruction as it says, you'll do just fine. i've done it twice already (yes, on the same phone) and i've succeeded both times. do your research and you'll do fine.

Thanks for the responses. I'll do what was suggested and use the Danger SPL, but what exactly is the difference between the two and why is Danger better?
As far as getting the SPL file on my SD card, I was planning on downloading it to my computer and then copying it to the SD using the USB cable (since I won't have access to a card reader until Saturday). Is that acceptable?

TeeJay3800 said:
Thanks for the responses. I'll do what was suggested and use the Danger SPL, but what exactly is the difference between the two and why is Danger better?
As far as getting the SPL file on my SD card, I was planning on downloading it to my computer and then copying it to the SD using the USB cable (since I won't have access to a card reader until Saturday). Is that acceptable?
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READ, READ AND READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AGAIN. When you know for sure you know what your doing, read it once more.
Secondly make a nandroid backup.
Next mount your sdcard so you can access it from your computer and then place the spl in the root of your sdcard. Then copy your nandroid backup to your computer (say c:\g1backup for example) unmount your sdcard.
Reboot into recovery and flash the latest radio (you should already have it... but just to be safe) then flash your spl.
Reflash the Cyanogen Rom. Unfortunately, I found this to be necessary because using the Danger SPL modifies the /system/ partition so you can't restore your nandroid backup... but you should be able to restore your data after you flashed your rom.
cd c:\g1backup\nandroid\H*\*\(latest_nandroid_name)\
fastboot flash userdata data.img

Binary, when you talk about READING THE INSTRUCTIONS MANY TIMES, can you please paste me the link with the exact instructions that I should follow? Thanks

christianmella said:
Binary, when you talk about READING THE INSTRUCTIONS MANY TIMES, can you please paste me the link with the exact instructions that I should follow? Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606147
Scroll down to "Flash the New RADIO and SPL" Follow the directions completely. Don't skip anything.

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[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks
1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.
No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^
Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?
He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-
Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!
Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.
This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.
As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!
I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

How to avoid brick when updating to Haykuro's SPL.

Ok guys just recieved my phone back, rooted flashed spl and radio and back on JAChero 2.72 in less than an hour and a half. ive done this so many times i want to share how i do it to maybe help future flashers to avoid bricking their G1's when going to Haykuro's SPL.
Well once you root this is the exact steps i take everytime. use this to gain root and follow every step because this gives you hardspl which i think maybe the key to not bricking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480 **NOTE before attempting this power off phone and power on holding camera button. Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
1.Install JF rc33.
2.Once installed install Jf 1.5 ADP right after that one is flashed.
3.once your on jf adp then find and download the radio.
then right after install the spl.
Once this spl is installed the phone WILL HANG ON THE TMOBILE SCREEN GUYS!! no worries Just reboot back to the recovery! Your phone IS NOT BRICKED IF YOU CAN GO TO RECOVERY OR BOOTLOADER!!
4. if you have a card reader just reboot to recovery, drag the jf adp 1.5 back to your sdcard and just reflash it. if not make shure you have 2 sdcards and have the jf adp 1.5 on another sdcard and reflash it from that. if you dont have that mount the sdcard from recovery by going into recovery then do alt+x then put in these commands
echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
once you do that the sd will mount just put the jf adp 1.5 back on the sdcard then reflash.
i think the problem has been that either people are trying to install the spl with the old radio. Also trying to install the spl while still on rc29. Another reason might be not being on the Hardspl before flashing the new spl. Hope you guys read and avoid bricking!
Also note * There are many posts by other users in this post on how to do it. you can also follow their opinions too some seem easier to you if your know what your doing [:.
Shaquiel Harris said:
Check if your phone is a PVT. if it is continue. if not STOP.*
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I have yet to see a shred of evidence to suggest that this has anything to do with bricking AT ALL. There was a poll a while ago and it really looked like it MADE NO DIFFERENCE in the rate of bricks.
Im glad you havent found any evidence. really i am. but until i see more reports of people not bricking from DVT boards then i will keep it up. thanks for your input though.
Actually...you don't have to flash back to JF after you installed the SPL. ONCE you have the RADIO FIRST, then the SPL is flashed, just pull the battery, insert the sd card into reader, place hero on it and just flash directly to hero. I have done this and helped other atleast 15 times with NO problems, otherwise just follow OP's steps.
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
Not trying to be rude, but his really doesn't seem necessary. The same information is in the SPL thread. If people choose to ignore the warnings then it's their fault for bricking.
It's really just as simple as:
Radio alt-s
JF 1.5 ADP alt-s
power+camera , check if its PVT, of not stop
SPL alt-s
ROM alt-s
I never flashed the hardspl when I rooted and after flashing the radio the new SPL installed just fine.
Also if they don't have a card reader flash Cyanogens 1.3.1 recovery image and use 'ums_enable' and 'ums_disable' to mount the sdcard.
Thanks guys for your posts i appreciate it. its just way to many people bricking going to the spl. just trying to throw in what i do and put in extra steps for them to be careful ya know? But thanks anyways [:
keatonreckard said:
no need to upgrade to jf before installing new radio/ spl. you can do this on rc29, then once you have the spl just restpre a previous fastboot.
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Most dont make a fastboot because they have no idea what it is and how to do it. i was just trying to make this as noob friendly as possible you know?

[Solved] Haykuro SPL question

Yes I've searched.
Yes I've posted in appropriate threads.
No I haven't recieved any answers.
Yes I'm getting frustrated and decided to post the question.
With that out of the way.
This may sound like a silly question but please forgive me as I have not yet flashed the haykuro spl.
Once you've flashed the new spl, instead of flashing the update.zip of the non-Hero rom, can't you use nandroid restore to restore your previous backups instead of having to start over with an update.zip file? Or will that restore the previous spl as well (in my case HARD SPL)? Or perhaps once you've installed your non-Hero update.zip file can you use nandroid restore to go back to your exact settings while keeping the new spl?
I ask because I would like to try the spl, but I'm so comfortable with my rom and settings that I would hate to wipe just to try Hero which is still in development. Call me crazy, but I like stable and finished builds. But I am curious and with a lot of time on my hands but not so much that I'm willing to lose everything just to try something that I'm not going to keep.
I hear from so many people to flash this spl because "It's worth it" but what is so special about it unless you plan on running Hero? Is it worth the risk of bricking your phone? I've been on the fence trying to decide whether to risk it or not and I've been very curious to try Hero but not at the cost of losing everything that I currently have and possibly bricking my phone just for the sake of curiousity.
Thanks.
Binary100100 said:
Yes I've searched.
I hear from so many people to flash this spl because "It's worth it" but what is so special about it unless you plan on running Hero?
Thanks.
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Nothing.
Use it if you want to run Hero rom.
If you do not want to run the hero based rom's, just stick with hardspl.
tissle said:
Nothing.
Use it if you want to run Hero rom.
If you do not want to run the hero based rom's, just stick with hardspl.
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Right... but I'm curious enough to try the Hero rom's. But if they are not stable (such as lack of bluetooth etc) then I would like to restore my current backups. Would such be possible and still keep the new spl?
Binary100100 said:
Yes I've searched.
Yes I've posted in appropriate threads.
No I haven't recieved any answers.
Yes I'm getting frustrated and decided to post the question.
With that out of the way.
This may sound like a silly question but please forgive me as I have not yet flashed the haykuro spl.
Once you've flashed the new spl, instead of flashing the update.zip of the non-Hero rom, can't you use nandroid restore to restore your previous backups instead of having to start over with an update.zip file? Or will that restore the previous spl as well (in my case HARD SPL)? Or perhaps once you've installed your non-Hero update.zip file can you use nandroid restore to go back to your exact settings while keeping the new spl?
I ask because I would like to try the spl, but I'm so comfortable with my rom and settings that I would hate to wipe just to try Hero which is still in development. Call me crazy, but I like stable and finished builds. But I am curious and with a lot of time on my hands but not so much that I'm willing to lose everything just to try something that I'm not going to keep.
I hear from so many people to flash this spl because "It's worth it" but what is so special about it unless you plan on running Hero? Is it worth the risk of bricking your phone? I've been on the fence trying to decide whether to risk it or not and I've been very curious to try Hero but not at the cost of losing everything that I currently have and possibly bricking my phone just for the sake of curiousity.
Thanks.
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If you make a nandroid before flashing the new SPL then I believe you will get the Hard SPL back but the new SPL is worth it because you get more Internal Memory, I think it's like 89 MB and you get to test out any Hero ROM you want, if you do decide to flash new SPL then use the 3rd post from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593 as a tutorial, it worked perfect for me.
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If you make a nandroid before flashing the new SPL then I believe you will get the Hard SPL back but the new SPL is worth it because you get more Internal Memory, I think it's like 89 MB and you get to test out any Hero ROM you want, if you do decide to flash new SPL then use the 3rd post from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517593 as a tutorial, it worked perfect for me.
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I really doubt that.
Binary100100 said:
Right... but I'm curious enough to try the Hero rom's. But if they are not stable (such as lack of bluetooth etc) then I would like to restore my current backups. Would such be possible and still keep the new spl?
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If you don't like Hero after you flash new SPL and everything (by the way Bluetooth does not work in any Hero ROM yet) just use your nandroid to go back to the way you were and flash new SPL from there, you don't have to flash Hero at the same time your flashing new SPL it can be the current ROM you're on.
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I really doubt that.
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I said I believe, so if you have the proof that it doesn't then don't just post "I really doubt that" give the man the info he needs.
_Kyros_ said:
I said I believe, so if you have the proof that it doesn't then don't just post "I really doubt that" give the man the info he needs.
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No, I'm not sure either.
Thats why I just said...I doubt it.
So worse case scenario, other the the possibility of bricking, is I do the backup, install the new spl, attempt to restore and if it doesn't restore the hard spl and if I do keep the haykuro spl (which provides about 10mb of extra internal storage) it might not work because of the storage difference that has been allocated for the hardspl. Theory 1.
I backup my current rom, Cyanogen 3.9. I install haykuro's spl, I install the Cyanogen 3.9 update.zip file. I nandroid restore my previous backup (pre-hero spl) and enjoy the extra memory and the possibility of experimenting a Hero rom with the new spl tonight at work. Theory 2.
Which sounds more likely?
Binary100100 said:
So worse case scenario, other the the possibility of bricking, is I do the backup, install the new spl, attempt to restore and if it doesn't restore the hard spl and if I do keep the haykuro spl (which provides about 10mb of extra internal storage) it might not work because of the storage difference that has been allocated for the hardspl. Theory 1.
I backup my current rom, Cyanogen 3.9. I install haykuro's spl, I install the Cyanogen 3.9 update.zip file. I nandroid restore my previous backup (pre-hero spl) and enjoy the extra memory and the possibility of experimenting a Hero rom with the new spl tonight at work. Theory 2.
Which sounds more likely?
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I'd go with "Theory 2"
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I'd go with "Theory 2"
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Thank you very much.
I'll probably give it a try later tonight.
With the recovery 1.4 out I won't need another sdcard and won't even need to rename the zip files. Makes it easier.
Binary100100 said:
Thank you very much.
I'll probably give it a try later tonight.
With the recovery 1.4 out I won't need another sdcard and won't even need to rename the zip files. Makes it easier.
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You're welcome and let me know how it works out for you in a PM, oh and don't forget to put [Solved] in the Thread title if you feel as though it was.
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You're welcome and let me know how it works out for you in a PM, oh and don't forget to put [Solved] in the Thread title if you feel as though it was.
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Just got a good answer that gave me hope.
rondey- said:
...Prior to flashing the haykuro spl I made a nandroid backup of the cyanogen rom I was using. I tested a hero rom and restored a nandroid backup of the cyanogen rom I was running and the new radio/spl were in place.
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Binary100100 said:
Just got a good answer that gave me hope.
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Yea I saw and went to that thread after my last post, so now we all know.
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Yea I saw and went to that thread after my last post, so now we all know.
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I flashed the new spl and I'm re-installing CM 3.9 now. I'll edit with updates.
Edit 1
First instead of installing the update.zip I decided to just try a restore from recovery. It wouldn't let me. I'll try to do a restore after the rom is flashed.
Edit 2
Installed CM 3.9 update (did NOT wipe) and it installed fine.
I have 68 MB of available space in phone storage.
busybox df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 47.8M 0 47.8M 0% /dev
tmpfs 4.0M 0 4.0M 0% /sqlite_stmt_journals
/dev/block/mtdblock3 90.0M 59.1M 30.9M 66% /system
/dev/block/loop0 640.0K 640.0K 0 100% /system/modules
/dev/block/loop1 2.4M 2.4M 0 100% /system/xbin
/dev/block/mtdblock5 89.8M 21.4M 68.4M 24% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock4 30.0M 1.1M 28.9M 4% /cache
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1.1G 358.7M 682.0M 34% /system/sd
/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 1.1G 358.7M 682.0M 34% /data/dalvik-cache
/dev/block//vold/179:1
13.8G 11.3G 2.5G 82% /sdcard
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Edit 3
I just noticed that I did have 2 splash screens (not the animated ANDROID). After installing the new spl I now only have the first one. Doesn't matter that much. Just worth mentioning. Edit 3b tried to add the second boot screen by "fastboot flash splash2 mysplash.rgb565" and got "writing 'splash2'... FAILED (remote: partition does not exist!) I perfered the splash2 boot screen so I just replaced splash1 with splash2. No big. I'll be trying Hero later! For now... gotta finish getting ready for work. Thanks!
I have a question about installing this new spl. I'm currently running Cyan 3.6.8.1 and I want to try out a Hero ROM. I'm going to completely nuke my phone by repartitioning my card and flashing back to RC29. My question is while in RC29 after I do the telnet commands and update my recovery can I update my radio, Haykuro's SPL, and start up back to RC29 so I can drag n drop the rom file onto my sd or will I need to keep the ROM file I want in my sd card to install through recovery?
Also to make sure I don't brick my phone (yes I have a PVT board) I'm going to list the steps I'm going to take
-While still using Cyan 3.6.8.1 boot into recovery, wipe, and repartition my SD card
-Place RC29 and original SPL onto SD card at startup then reboot into recovery, wipe, load original SPL, reboot, and install RC29
-Follow telnet commands using this guide off this forum then place new radio, haykuro's spl, and cyan's 1.4 recovery on SD card
-After updating recovery update radio then SPL
-Wait for startup (if I didn't brick my phone) to place new rom file onto sd card then reboot in recovery to install new rom
Binary100100 said:
Edit 2
Installed CM 3.9 update (did NOT wipe) and it installed fine.
I have 68 MB of available space in phone storage.
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How much free memory did you have prior to flashing the new spl?
Anyone wanna help the noob?

what is haykuro death spl

I use hard spl. But some roms are for death spl. Any advantage. To using it?
as far as i know, it is the spl from the magic/sapphire and it frees up more space in /system and /data and i would assume takes some from /cache.
since it clears up more space in /system it allows you store more stuff in there which is what the hero roms do.
the advantage is more space in /system and /data
according to your sig you have the danger spl which is the 1.33.2005 spl, i am confused
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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you still confuse me with your sig, boot your phone up with camera and power and tell me what is displayed there for the numbers above radio.
ahronzombi said:
Thanks. Can you point me to more info. Id like to try it.
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Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
My advice is to only flash the "Danger SPL" if you intend on trying Hero.
Otherwise just use Hard SPL.
You can use the link in my signature if you wish to proceed.
However you will not be able to flash any nandroid system.img backups on top of that SPL which means that once you flash that SPL you need to start with a wipe and a fresh ROM. You can always flash your userdata with fastboot afterwards to restore your data.
Things you may want to get before starting:
Latest radio (MUST!)
Cyanogen's 1.4 Recovery
Full ROM update (ie Cyanogen's 4.0.4 rom)
Partition your class 6 (suggested) sdcard to FAT32/EXT3/Linux-Swap (type 1) for HERO roms.
Yes it's a lot of work for a noob but it's worth it as long as you don't brick your phone (high risk if you don't follow instructions).
southsko said:
Search some please. This SPL can brick your phone and some top notches around here have even bricked their brand new phones after getting a replacement because they have just bricked their last phone.
Besides, I think most hero roms use apps2sd so you don't need the death/danger SPL. (off the top of my head)
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You're incorrect, the hero app and app_s folder are on the SD but the system remains in NAND. The Hero system is too large to fit with Hard or Eng SPL and the Haykuro SPL is a necessity.
If you wish to experience a Hero build without using the death spl, you can use the one of the Micro Hero builds at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561179

Questions before i root my G1

I bought a G1 2 days ago and i've been reading a lots of tutorials on how to root the phone, i have hacked/Modified every phone i've had so far (Motorola/Sony Ericsson/Nokia) and i would like to do the same with my G1 (That;s why i bought it for) the problem is that every tutorial i see wants me to downgrade to RC29 which isn't complicated but the problem is that it has the DMD64 update.
1- Is the rooting process the same for DMD64 or do i need something special to downgrade? i read about the goldcard but i also heard it was not necessary all the time.
2- Since this is my first time rooting , is there a way to make sure i don't brick my phone? like making a backup of the OS or whatever i need to fix it in case i brick it.
3-What are the latest/best files to root it things like Recovery, ROM, SPL (i don't fully understand what this is and how it is different from the recovery)
Thank You.
Frodcord said:
I bought a G1 2 days ago and i've been reading a lots of tutorials on how to root the phone, i have hacked/Modified every phone i've had so far (Motorola/Sony Ericsson/Nokia) and i would like to do the same with my G1 (That;s why i bought it for) the problem is that every tutorial i see wants me to downgrade to RC29 which isn't complicated but the problem is that it has the DMD64 update.
1- Is the rooting process the same for DMD64 or do i need something special to downgrade? i read about the goldcard but i also heard it was not necessary all the time.
2- Since this is my first time rooting , is there a way to make sure i don't brick my phone? like making a backup of the OS or whatever i need to fix it in case i brick it.
3-What are the latest/best files to root it things like Recovery, ROM, SPL (i don't fully understand what this is and how it is different from the recovery)
Thank You.
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1: I have no idea if the rooting process is the same for DMD64 or not, but I do not see why it would be any different. But, I could be wrong. I was lucky enough to have RC29 when I purchased mine.
2: The only thing that you can do to make sure you do not brick your phone is to FOLLOW EACH STEP CAREFULLY! Do not skip steps, or add your own. This mainly applies to flashing the Radio and SPL. If you f*ck that up, you're bricked, heh.
3: This confused me at first as well.
What is a SPL? The SPL, or Second Program Loader, in conjunction with the IPL comprise a device's bootloader. Aside from bootstrapping Android, the bootloader also fulfills various diagnostic functions. One of these functions is the manipulation of data in the device's internal flash ram. Depending on the SPL installed, the user can apply a signed NBH file, flash nand images, and more. Note that the SPL is installed and operates independently of the Android build that runs atop it.
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The recovery is kind of like pressing F8 when you are booting into Windows. It lets you make changes to your system, w/o booting the the complete Operating System (The Android OS in this case). Using the recovery menu, you can flash new ROMs, format your SD card, enable the USB Mass Storage so you can see the SD card within windows, do a factory reset on the device, open up a terminal to manually input commands, perform a backup of your device (you can back up most everything on it) which allows you to restore from that backup if you mess something up.
But, then there is your FastBoot screen as well. FastBoot is where you need to be to flash your SPL and Radio. I am not 100% sure as to the correct order of the flashing off the top of my head, but google around (or simply search this forum), and you will find all the info you need.
Not all ROMs require you to have the "Danger/Haykuro/Death SPL" though. Many of them will work on a stock SPL. However, if you do feel the need to try one of the ROMs that require you to use the Death SPL, you can find all the information about it here: http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/SPL.
Good luck with your new G1, and do NOT be afraid to ask for help if you need it. Nobody likes to see one of these devices get bricked
Thanks a lot for helping me I thought that the recovery was the f8 in a computer too but I still have my doubts about the spl and the radio. I'll try to root my phone tomorrow i'll give you guys an update after I get to 1.5.
Wish me luck xD.
Frodcord said:
Thanks a lot for helping me I thought that the recovery was the f8 in a computer too but I still have my doubts about the spl and the radio. I'll try to root my phone tomorrow i'll give you guys an update after I get to 1.5.
Wish me luck xD.
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Remember, always RADIO BEFORE THE SPL. If you do decide to mess with SPL, make sure to flash engineering (or hard) first, and then flash Danger/Death SPL thru fastboot. This eliminates 99% chance of the brick.
Good luck.
borodin1 said:
Remember, always RADIO BEFORE THE SPL. If you do decide to mess with SPL, make sure to flash engineering (or hard) first, and then flash Danger/Death SPL thru fastboot. This eliminates 99% chance of the brick.
Good luck.
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Lol how is he going to know what fastboot/adb is? OP, don't mess with the SPL and radio until you know what your doing. Flash a rom like cyanogen or Enom's AOSP if you don't want to mess with them.
Ok I've done it i am running 1.5 now so if a person comes asking about DMD64 (G1) now you know what to say. You don't need a goldcard or something else just the dreaimg.nbh and there is nothing to worry about.
I still don't fully understand the SPL and Radio part so i'll keep reading until i am ready to use a custom ROM.
so just root DMD64 the normal way?

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