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I cant find a rom that has a touch flow cube. I want the black diamond rom for my wizard to work with herald. I love that rom!!
There are many ROMs here. Usually the ones that aren't labeled "lite" "slim" or "clean" have the cube but the cube has to enabled.
cube
ive tried several roms and I got one that lete enable the cube, but I dont know how to invoke it. On my wizard i invoked it by setting it to a button. Im lost.
The WM6.1 ROM's don't have it.... :-/
well i don't know, i do kinda use it a llllot with the WM6 ROM's...
You have to set it up. You can set it to use a button or a gesture. I find it utterly useless, so I'm not the expert on it.
I didn't flash one yet... I was just assuming since the 3 here all said Touch Flo No Cube...hmm...maybe I won't miss the cube after all!!
I mostly use it for the photo dialer.. haha... i have like 18 "faves" now
Oh...ttran released Open Touch v3.0 Biggy has a cube..i think..
how interesting..........
Touch-It 4.41, which is better, has a Cube.
Worked for me and most everyone else whose tried it. Apparently the problem is his and not the software's.
aad4321 said:
thats strange, for my wing, when i go into the settings, it just has a half a box, and i cant click it.... i think it may have to do with that x button cab i had to install.
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If you installed that X Button FIX then yeah it creates a useless Icon in the programs called TF Settings.
That IS THE SOLUTION! IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GET THE HELL RID OF IT!
This has been said several time now in the forums!
mv3 said:
The WM6.1 ROM's don't have it.... :-/
well i don't know, i do kinda use it a llllot with the WM6 ROM's...
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Well you know the cube makes your Device SOOOOOO Sloww!!
And you allready have a applaucher in the HTC Home Plug so why cube ?
well... it doesnt seem to slow down my phone.. i also have the sprint home plug-in. i like having the 2nd app launcher and photodialer.. and sometimes way more faster than going back to the today screen and having to focus on which tab, then which shortcut to push. with the cube..i could be using whatever program i'm on..then with only 1 or 2 finger gestures, i'd be at the dialer or app launcher.windows mobile apps are known to run differently on same model phone and everybody has different tastes.. just cause i liked it doesnt mean you have to also.. and really, it didn't slow down performance for me... but activesync startig up in the background, hat slows mine down!
anyone care to chime in on this??? Is it worth going to the spb? Can you install over top of latest Dutty? Looks pretty cool!
Dutty is a rom..... SPB MS 2.0 is a program. It'll run on any rom.
Yeah I know that it is... I guess I was meaning how does it compare to just running HTC home? Worth the buy?
airric00 said:
Yeah I know that it is... I guess I was meaning how does it compare to just running HTC home? Worth the buy?
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You can download a trial for it. Mods please move this thread the Kaiser Software forum.
but this has nothing to do with dutty's rom..
for me its worth the buy...read more on the spb website
sorry..
Guess I should have posted over there sorry..
SBP products run great and are essential for any phone but I only use SBPdiary w/HTCH on my Today screen. Most of their products run great in the background, SBPTime for powerful alarm clock, stop watch, and world timer. SPB Phone Suite excellent calling features that can run in the background as well.
I typically enjoy HTCHC but from time to time I wish I had the artistic and technological skills to create something different
I have a Tilt, and I tried installing both SPB Shell 2.0 and SPB Pocket Plus 4 on Dutty's April 1st rom, and they worked but did one weird thing, when the phone would boot up the signal would go in and out, flashing there, then not there, then there etc., it would do this for almost a minute before finally locking on a signal.
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Yeah I know that it is... I guess I was meaning how does it compare to just running HTC home? Worth the buy?
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I would say that the SPB Mobile Screen 2 program is awesome! I have been using it on top of Dutty's Light rom and it works great. Real smooth and responsive, lots of customization options as well as nice fit and finish which is hard to find on a WM6 product.
If you want a free version you can always check out .... to find all the crack codes for almost any software package out there.
As far as the downsides go, it eats battery faster than normal, it does not run on your today screen which bothers me and you can OK through it and go back to your today screen. That problem is slightly solved by SPB making it your default app when you start up the phone and bring it back from sleep which elevates most of the issues.
I just flashed my phone and am going to try giving HTC Home Live a chance, but if I do not think it is customizable enough I am going straight back to SPB... Before I forget to mention, SPB has one of the best opening screens I have seen so far, it has a email, missed calls and text messages right on the front, as well as weather, call options, clock, and the best part a calendar with dates and your schedule all in an easy to read form.
I hope this clears up something for you. Hopefully you wont have to pay for it, but if you do, I would actually say it is worth the 30 bucks.
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If you want a free version you can always check out removed by me to find all the crack codes for almost any software package out there.
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Have you lost your mind man? Warez is strictly prohibited here. I suggest you edit it out. Please no warez, cracks, serials, keygens or anything of the sort.
P1Tater said:
Have you lost your mind man? Warez is strictly prohibited here. I suggest you edit it out. Please no warez, cracks, serials, keygens or anything of the sort.
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Sorry my bad. Just trying to help people out. Will know now for next time.
I use spb mobile shell and love it. its very finger freindly and extremely useful.
californiarailroader said:
I have a Tilt, and I tried installing both SPB Shell 2.0 and SPB Pocket Plus 4 on Dutty's April 1st rom, and they worked but did one weird thing, when the phone would boot up the signal would go in and out, flashing there, then not there, then there etc., it would do this for almost a minute before finally locking on a signal.
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That's because weather updates on bootup.
It sucks but does level off & then everything works.
Besides that, they both work excellent for me together
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Guess I should have posted over there sorry..
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I tried the spb mobile shell trial and it's also nice.
Try Pointui as well, you might like it and not buy spb mobile shell at all. The last time I tried this was when it just came out in Alpha stage and it did quite well and was fast with the original, slow wm6 OS that came with my Tilt
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That's because weather updates on bootup.
It sucks but does level off & then everything works.
Besides that, they both work excellent for me together
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Ahh, so that's what's causing it, I was going nuts trying to figure out why that was happening with them, thanks dwny! It does level off after a minute or so like you said and then it's fine, I was thinking it was screwing with my signal or phone, but if it's normal and not a problem, I am putting them back on. I am so glad you posted this, I was missing my SPB stuff, HTC Home just isn't cutting it for me. I had hard reset the Tilt and reloaded Dutty's Rom, and left off those programs because, like I said, I thought it was an error.
Edit-If I shut off the weather, will it stop that behavior? I don't use the weather on SPB MS, It doesn't have the weather for my town of Redwood Valley, I use Weather Bug and Weather Watcher for that. It's weird, I didn't have this issue when running MS or PP on Laurentius's ROM's. I take it that the signal thing is only visual, ie.the signal is actually okay, but while it's updating at boot up it "shows" it as going in and out, no?
andrukit said:
I tried the spb mobile shell trial and it's also nice.
Try Pointui as well, you might like it and not buy spb mobile shell at all. The last time I tried this was when it just came out in Alpha stage and it did quite well and was fast with the original, slow wm6 OS that came with my Tilt
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Be careful with Point UI, it's tricky to uninstall (there is no uninstall for it in the "remove programs" page), and it leaves pieces of itself of it allover. I tried it too, and it has a ton of potential, but they really need a way to get it off the phone, right now it's an exercise in frustation.
californiarailroader said:
Be careful with Point UI, it's tricky to uninstall (there is no uninstall for it in the "remove programs" page), and it leaves pieces of itself of it allover. I tried it too, and it has a ton of potential, but they really need a way to get it off the phone, right now it's an exercise in frustation.
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Quick question, what did you think of Point UI? worth installing and flashing again? I am fumbling around with a lot of different UIs? I have tried Ultimate Launch (bit too complicated for me to setup the way I want, SPB Mobile Shell, (but it drains too much batt), HTC home (not customizable enough.) If you could let me know a little more about the POINT UI that would be awesome before I put it on my phone. Thanks buddy.
Brian
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Quick question, what did you think of Point UI? worth installing and flashing again? I am fumbling around with a lot of different UIs? I have tried Ultimate Launch (bit too complicated for me to setup the way I want, SPB Mobile Shell, (but it drains too much batt), HTC home (not customizable enough.) If you could let me know a little more about the POINT UI that would be awesome before I put it on my phone. Thanks buddy.
Brian
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you tried htc home customizer w/ quick launcher?
There are many customized icons, clocks, backgrounds, and weather views. In addition w/ quick launcher you have an extra row of tabs, which you can change to go to any program (and icons of course).
I stuck with HTC embedded inside Ultimate Launcher.
Ultimate Laucher is not that complicated if you look carefully a little bit of patience and you'll get the hang of it, moreover you could just copy your Ultimatelauncher.ini file as backup to have the same setup each time in case you like flashing roms a lot.
For HTC Home there's HTC Home Customizer, lots of icons to download.
I've tried most of them, but i always end up with the simplest setup I guess I got tired of fancy sliding and multiple clicks, the fewer clicks to find what I need does it for me.
Btw, there's another nice today app I'd like you to see it's rlToday Check it out
brianlau said:
Quick question, what did you think of Point UI? worth installing and flashing again? I am fumbling around with a lot of different UIs? I have tried Ultimate Launch (bit too complicated for me to setup the way I want, SPB Mobile Shell, (but it drains too much batt), HTC home (not customizable enough.) If you could let me know a little more about the POINT UI that would be awesome before I put it on my phone. Thanks buddy.
Brian
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First I need to say that I really liked Touchflo3D a lot and I didn't stopped using it because it looks bad or may slow down the Diamond a little bit.
I stopped using it because it reminds me too much of the iPhone...unfortunately minus the iPhone usability.
After I went back to the "classic" stylus and thumb operation, my lost happiness using the Diamond returned back. I also enjoy to be able again to easily read all my appointments and tasks which was almost impossible with Touchflo3D.
Tochflo3D looks great, in my opinion better than the iPhone GUI, kudos to HTC for that.
Unfortunately it doesn't offer the same comfort and usability of the iPhone GUI, so it is useless to me. Once HTC succeeds in integrating WM6.1 into Touchflo3D(or vice versa), I may give it another try but right now, it is just a fancy but pretty much useless GUI which reminds me too much of the iPhone comfort and usability and which of course starts to annoy me once I realize that it doesn't work even close to how good the iPhone GUI works with touch operations.
So if you're annoyed by Touchflo3D but still use it because it looks so nice...STOP using it, you will be much more happy with your Diamond, believe me. Once Touchflo3D is gone, you don't compare it to the iPhone anymore, reminding you of the "good old" stylus/thumb operation days and how good the Diamond can be used that way compared to older devices.
Try it, you may love it.
Good call.
I have done the same and only really miss the cute SMS graphics...
HTC obviously CAN do good interfaces as the old TouchFlo was excellent, but this one just isn't quite there yet, and also feels somewhat fiddly compared to the iPhone.
In the meantime the TD runs much better without TF3D, and you can start realising its full potential. Also you are not tempted to use their somewhat flaky audio player etc and can start to look at other alternatives.
If you want gestures and nice graphics, try SPB Shell 2. Works very well and looks great.
Otherwise, try using the device as the WM6 phone it so obviously is, and start to enjoy it...
from the first i didnt like the Touchflo3D its buggy so i disable it and use the normal mode
Yeah, I do fully agree to that!
The "classic" windows mobile interface looks very well on the diamond,
and without TF3D it's fast as hell!
Spb mobile shell is the best interface.
Touch Flo 3d was slow and killed the diamond.
Have to agree with most of the posts in here, TF3D is nice but its such a resourcce hog that after almost a day of using the Diamond...the phone becomes so sluggish even with the tweaks enabled.
Im seriously considering going to the normal non tf3d screen as it doesnt eat as much memory/resources as the tf3d does.
Seriously just try leaving the phone for most of the day and u will see that from 50% it goes up to 70% and makes the phone very sluggish.
Saying that i do hope HTC fix it with a future rom update or perhaps one of the guys in here can do it becuase its a nice interface when it works.
Registry switch for toiuchflow3d?
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
windows mobile is one ugly thing and the stylus...no thanks...
when i get the touch pro..tf3d it is.
pilib said:
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
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What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
pedmond said:
What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
i hope that new rom cookers can find us a solution to freed up the ram so that we can use it for other applications
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
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What do you mean? Won't give us more RAM, indeed, but will free quite a bit of the existing one...
Note to self: stop using the "what do you mean" expression...
The elusive obvious!
Pardon my earlier stupid question re a registry switch for touchflo. It is of course, as pointed out, simply a today plugin, easily disabled by a t(h)ick!
Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
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I also disabled Touchflo3D. Is there another possibility to access the weather-application from Touchflo3D? Or does anybody know a similar programm running with WM 6.1?
after you install spb mobile shell, how do you disable/remove touchflo? and make spb shell the default one etc
Settings-today-items:check SPB and remove the check from tf3D ..DONE!
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Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
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Which ROM are you using?
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
I quite like it too but I do miss the exact things you have just mentioned. I'm not looking for a replacement, but I do wonder can it be hacked so we can get more out of it? Or must we wait for HTC to listen to our cry for help. This is my first HTC device so I don't know, but from what I hear we should not be holding our breath. This surprised me, as I buy other HTC's for my staff at work, and HTC's reputation to me was exemplary, and they are the market leaders. Then I came here, and now I hear so much bad stuff about them.
Riel said:
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
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You never used an iPhone, did you?
I'm using the TLR ROM too but Touchflo3D is C.R.A.P..
I owned WM phones before(TyTN, TyTN II, i780, etc.) and I like Windows Mobile, version 6.1 is really a good step towards a finally very well working phone OS, I just can't wait to see WM7. Like I said before, Touchflo3D LOOKS great, much better than the iPhone GUI but operation SUCKS bigtime, not even close to iPhone. Don't forget that HTC started the whole "touch" series because of the iPhone, not because people really asked for it. That said, a comparison to the iPhone is mandatory and yes, I know, the display technology is completely different and WM6.1 lacks a proper finger touch operation API, right.
I removed Tochflo3D because I wanted to have an almost perfect "classic"(stylus, sometimes fingers) Windows Mobile phone, not a half-bread iPhone wannabee.
What can I say? I'm a happy camper now, especially since I can for example see five different calender events on the same page without having to touch the unit.
Regarding Touchflo3D improvements: I'm not sure we're going to see substantial improvements to the usability(speed isn't really the issue), unless some genius programmer finds a clever way to cope for the different display technology and missing "real" finger usage API of WM6.1. I also wish somebody here on xda-developers with brains and time on this hand could "integrate" WM6.1(icons, etc.) much more into Touchflo3D, so Touchflo3D doesn't look and feel sometimes like a simple GUI "cover" only.
I'm pretty sure that Windows Mobile 7 will be the answer to all our questions and hopes but til then...well...hello Touch Diamond II or whatever it's name will be.
Hi guys.
Can i use the HTC Home software from HTC Touch in my Diamond?
I like so TF3D but the consumption of resources is too high and i want a faster PDA.
And some tabs from TF3D are useless, like music (coreplayer >>>>> all), favorites contacts (15 favs is not enough 4 me), the weather (yeah too cool but i know the time looking at the sky every day xD), etc...
Anyone knows if is that possbile?
Thnx in advance
it would have been done by now if it could be
so i guess not.
well, you can install the "tf3d config" app to remove the unnecessary tabs in the tf3d.
or you could disable the tf3d entirely and install the today screen from the original touch or kaiser (that won't bring you the 3d cube, however)...
tuem said:
well, you can install the "tf3d config" app to remove the unnecessary tabs in the tf3d.
or you could disable the tf3d entirely and install the today screen from the original touch or kaiser (that won't bring you the 3d cube, however)...
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i dont want to disable unnecesary tabs, i just want to remove entirely the tf3d, it's slow and useless
And HTC home, looks more simply, usefull and faster
EDIT: how can i remove entirely the TF3D??? Without flashing...
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i dont want to disable unnecesary tabs, i just want to remove entirely the tf3d, it's slow and useless
And HTC home, looks more simply, usefull and faster
EDIT: how can i remove entirely the TF3D??? Without flashing...
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Simply by deselecting it in settings/today/items like any other today plugin.
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Simply by deselecting it in settings/today/items like any other today plugin.
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Yeah i know that, but i want to remove from the main memory, 20mb at least of trash without usingg.. NO WAY! xD
Driskol said:
Yeah i know that, but i want to remove from the main memory, 20mb at least of trash without usingg.. NO WAY! xD
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There might be a way, if you find all the files and registry keys related to the application.
But in any case, it's not worth it to mess with files so integrated in the ROM itself. You'll be better off simply by deselecting it.
Regarding the space you can free by erasing this program, better to let the ROM cooks doing it before the ROM is built.
I got a Diamond about a month ago, and i have been a very long customer of HTC, since the days of xda 2s/Blue angel to xda orbit2/Polaris.
now i have the Diamond, im really wondering if i should have bothered getting the iphone 3g.
it seems to be the slowest device i have ever had.... and it is due to the touchflo3d app. which i will be honest, i love it. its great and works well, even when skinned. but after a soft reset, just after flo3d boots up, i am using 60% of the memory, is this normal? if this is, then this is unacceptable for a device that does not have enough memory to run.
if i unload flo3d, i can get it down to about 50%, which is better, but with a boring homescreen.
so, this now means that windows uses half of the system memory just to run, 60% with flo3d and if i run wifi and Opera or youtube together, about 80% of the time i get "the device is low on memory" message.
My question is , is this normal? and is there anything i can do to make my situation better? i am currently running the Syrius WWE 1.00.25.03 rom....
cheers and sorry bout the rant...
I personally don't like TF3D, I think it's badly flawed and half-finished. I'm running Panosha's ultra-lite Shimple 1.1 ROM without TF3D, using a bunch of SPB today plugins and my free memory is 72MB after a soft reset.
Having said that, there are ways to keep TF3D and improve the memory situation. Disabling the HTC dialer and volume control can gain you as much as 12MB for example.
Some ROMs save more memory than others, I haven't tried that many of them but HallengreeN's is meant to be quite good in this respect. He has a new one coming out this weekend apparently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429147
Memory issues?
I'm using HTC standard 1.93 ROM. Never had any 'Out of memory' messages. Never had any slow device issues. I use MemMaid to clean up my device once a day and make sure applications close, not minimise using HTC Task Manager.
I certainly don't agree that TF3D is badly flawed and half finished... but we're all entitled to our own opinions
Just to clarify my previous post, I've never had any "the device is low on memory" messages so that part isn't normal. I'd definitely recommend a new ROM or at least a hard reset.
Your memory figures do sound fairly normal though, TF3D is a memory hog and I used to get bad delays with it. This would have been with one of Dutty's 1.93 ROMs back in August/September.
Reflash and lose the dialer and things should improve!
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I personally don't like TF3D, I think it's badly flawed and half-finished. I'm running Panosha's ultra-lite Shimple 1.1 ROM without TF3D, using a bunch of SPB today plugins and my free memory is 72MB after a soft reset.
Having said that, there are ways to keep TF3D and improve the memory situation. Disabling the HTC dialer and volume control can gain you as much as 12MB for example.
Some ROMs save more memory than others, I haven't tried that many of them but HallengreeN's is meant to be quite good in this respect. He has a new one coming out this weekend apparently.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429147
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Could you give more details on how to go about on that? Where and how can I disable the volume control and dialer?
ajdj said:
Could you give more details on how to go about on that? Where and how can I disable the volume control and dialer?
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The easiest way to disable the dialer is to use either Schaps Advanced Configuration Tool or Diamond Tweak. Diamond Tweak also has a setting for disabling the HTC Volume Control but it doesn't work on newer ROMs so the only working method is by cab file.
See post #2 of this thread for more details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434934