Speed Forge 3D laggy on my G1 - G1 Apps and Games

Can anyone tell me why?

If the SuperD Rom you're using has the 10mb RAM hack, that could explain it. If I'm not mistaken, that hack takes memory away from 3D processing. So, if you're a heavy user of 3D apps you might want to find a rom that doesn't use that hack.

its always laggy on my g1 and always has been on a large veriety of different roms...

groucho51 said:
If the SuperD Rom you're using has the 10 Ram hack, that could explain it. If I'm not mistaken, that hack takes memory away from 3D processing. So, if you're a heavy user of 3D apps you might want to find a rom that doesn't use that hack.
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thanks that makes sense

SJJTJJ said:
thanks that makes sense
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Yup, i can confirm that on Cyanogen 4.2 with NO 10Mb ramhack, it runs perfectly. No lag

brettf said:
Yup, i can confirm that on Cyanogen 4.2 with NO 10Mb ramhack, it runs perfectly. No lag
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I agree. Cyanogen 4.2 rom is the best!!!!!

brettf said:
Yup, i can confirm that on Cyanogen 4.2 with NO 10Mb ramhack, it runs perfectly. No lag
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Works for me too

how many frames per second?

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(PRO QUESTION) is there anyway to increase amount of ram on g1

as it says in the title is there anyway to increase the ram on a g1 also, known as, htc dream. i am using the g1 with a lower amount of ram
please help
every g1 hve same amt of ram..please come again and have a good night you cant increase it.
Ace42 said:
every g1 hve same amt of ram..please come again and have a good night you cant increase it.
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well actually there is a 10mb ram hack that will increase the available free ram while sacrificing 3d graphics
brian_v3ntura said:
well actually there is a 10mb ram hack that will increase the available free ram while sacrificing 3d graphics
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but hten i wouldnt beable to use gameboid or snesoid
how would i do that hack
how would i do the hack i do not really care about the 3d graphics but can i still flash heroroms and will it be the same
turtlesmank4 said:
how would i do the hack i do not really care about the 3d graphics but can i still flash heroroms and will it be the same
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all you need to do is find a rom that uses the hack which is sese hero or kingxklick rom maybe hero_over too.
turtlesmank4 said:
how would i do the hack i do not really care about the 3d graphics but can i still flash heroroms and will it be the same
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You can do it with any ROM. The 10mb ram hack is built in to the kernel, which is inside boot.img, so all you need to do is find a boot.img with the 10mb kernel and flash it over your existing ROM.
Personally I don't buy it, but if you want to try it then go for it.
As other have said, all HTC Dreams (some branded as G1's) have the same amount of RAM. The Hero has 96mb more ram than the Dream.

Is my Nexus One slow?

Hi,
I'm having my Nexus One for about two weeks now and I already started a thread about the choppy scrolling between homescreens but now I want to know if there are other people that find their Nexus One slow and if they were able to make it faster in any way.
When I bought this phone I thought android would 'fly' on it cause I already had a HTC Magic and that went reasonably fast. But everything I'm using on my Nexus One feels choppy and not fluent as I expected/want it to be. For example when you start the browser or any other program you get this zoom animation which is nice but it doesn't go fluent, it goes choppy like you would play a videogame with 5 FPS.
And as I already mentioned the same counts for the launcher, it's just not fluent and doesn't feel fast at all.
I've tested different rom's, froyo, etc. but nothing seems to make it right so now I'm wondering if there are people that have the same issue's? Is it normal that the Nexus One isn't super fast to use or is there something wrong with my phone and should I return it?
i think something is wrong. especially with froyo the phone is ultra-fast.
Try Linpack and some other benchmarks and post the results.
Or try osmonitor for example and see what the cpu speed does, perhaps it is stuck @ 245 mhz for some reason lol
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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the kernel is actually the primary factor when it comes to speed. how the kernel manages actions on the phone is the deciding factor on what makes it run fast. you can have a very fast phone hardwarewise, but if the kernel is designed poorly, the phone will run slow as well. Using a kernel that does not have highmem enabled means your probably running an older kernel that does not have updates for speed. the latest froyo kernel has highmem and JIT enabled for faster application use as well as over smoother feel.
i love the animations as well
im coming from the G1 and i havent had any of the of the problems you seem to be having. you are flashing the roms correctly (unless there are additional things such as google apps you need, idk whats the procedure on that for the nexus) Im running fully stock with froyo FRF72.
I would imagine that Desire would be SLOWER than stock android not faster. However the animations may be better optimized. I only used sense on the G1 and it was slow as heck on there (i would have used it all the time otherwise) The main reason that things look so choppy is because rendering is not handled by the GPU, rather the CPU. This puts more strain on the CPU than should be necessary.
I don't get why they OC the CPU either. Seriously, 1gHz is fast for a PHONE. I can understand why when the phone starts getting dated why you would....but its not gonna be dated till at least Q4 2010 when the 1.2-2gHz snapdragons are coming out.
Qualcomm will have a 1.5gHz ready for new phones this year. DUAL-CORE
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
As for the problem. Sounds weird. Try LauncherPro for a test. That is smooth launcher that flows like butter. If that is choppy then there is something seriously fu-bar going on with yer phone
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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so is your nexus smooth and fluid now? because mine is very smooth swiping the homescreens. using launcher pro. no choppiness at all.
Stock launchers to me are kinda choppy too. And that was my only complain with the nexus. Like the previous posters advised, try launcher pro and adwlauncher, tweak the settings to your liking and you'll see the difference. As far as kernel for froyo try pershoots kernel, it seems to be very smooth and speedy.
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I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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400 is normal. FRF72 seems to help battery life greatly for me. browser seems more stable and google apps have been updated (alarm and calendar)
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Minor suggestion - install ADW.Launcher (you'll have to tweak the settings a bit to make it nice) or Launcher Pro (works great as is) with your Froyo ROM. You'll thank me for it. The stock launcher scrolling is choppy - always has been, never was really fixed in Froyo (at least as of FRF50 - I haven't even bothered trying it with FRF72).

Which ROM you like the most (performance, stability, usability etc etc)

So once more, to understand what people are using and help new users that come in here, might be nice to just select which is the best ROM for you...
I've taken the ROM's that are on the first page of development page...
Froyomod
Froyomod +1
Froyomod makes the Milestone usable, although it has some little problems about GPS and battery drain.
Cm6 is the best
FroyoMOD and CM6. Currently on CM6, working pretty good.
those saying "XY IS THE BEST" - have you tried all other roms available for milestone?
MuF123 said:
those saying "XY IS THE BEST" - have you tried all other roms available for milestone?
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Yes. Every GB ROM is slow on MS. Sad thing that there is more GB-based ROMs than Froyo based ROMs. Eclair ROMs are ok but they lack some useful features (no flash, app2sd(possible to get app2ext actually)+ 30fps cap...
CM6 and FM are only on Froyo, and they are working great.
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they lack some useful features (no flash, app2sd(possible to get app2ext actually)+ 30fps cap...
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funny thing that I don't used any of those you mentioned Milestone is slow without flash, I don't have 3000 apps installed and the 30fps cap is what? Never heard about it. Rendering framerate cap? That could be actually a good thing (saving battery time).
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funny thing that I don't used any of those you mentioned Milestone is slow without flash, I don't have 3000 apps installed and the 30fps cap is what? Never heard about it. Rendering framerate cap? That could be actually a good thing (saving battery time).
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Yes, 30fps cap means that frames per second are max 30. In froyo, gb it is 60. In eclair it is very noticable in games, not sure about videos...
MuF123 said:
those saying "XY IS THE BEST" - have you tried all other roms available for milestone?
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Yes. have tried all roms ( GB, Froyo, Eclair )
and I have to say:
CM6 and FM are great.
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Yes, 30fps cap means that frames per second are max 30. In froyo, gb it is 60. In eclair it is very noticable in games, not sure about videos...
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AFAIK 30fps should be far more than enough for any game, video or anything else, except for really fast FPS on PC... so maybe it isn't 30fps? because 30fps is smooth for almost anything there.
MuF123 said:
AFAIK 30fps should be far more than enough for any game, video or anything else, except for really fast FPS on PC... so maybe it isn't 30fps? because 30fps is smooth for almost anything there.
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You should try Eclair and see. Idk about Gameloft games but some games like Speedx were so laggy.
CM6 nice...
CM6 is great.. really stable and not power hungry.. but the default overclock on 1Ghz seems a little too much... i keep it clocked to 600Mhz and only overclock when running some processor hungry task.
Agreed Eclair was really laggy... i mean i have never tried any eclair ROM yet.. but the stock eclair was the most lethargic a phone can be... i felt like i had paid money for some really outdated untuned stuff... but stock froyo was good and so are all the froyo roms..
I was trying everything out there for the last 1.5 years.
Most of the time i was using CM7, then was just going to MIUI when i was a bit bored of it.
But when i switched to FM a month ago - never looked back! Almost flawless compared to the others!
CM6 revamped for the WIN!!!
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155454
CM7, ShodowMod Br.
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What is fm
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n3n00 said:
You should try Eclair and see. Idk about Gameloft games but some games like Speedx were so laggy.
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Do you know the movie you watching on bluray has 29,97FPS? In Europe the standard is 25FPS. The movies are laggy?
I'd like to CM7,it has been improved a lot.In the beginning it is power hungry and heat realse is great,but now all the problems has gone.It's a wonderful rom.If I have any syntax error,please tell me to correct it,thanks a lot~

[Q] How to get Angry Birds Space to run well

Does anybody know of a way to get Angry Birds Space to run well? It is the only app that stutters and hangs quite often on my Captivate. I usually have to pull my battery because my phone completely locks up if I launch it and try playing it.
which rom are you using im using Doc masters and it runs smooth for me
Im using Legend 3.7 and RFS filesystem
AOKP build 31 bigmem. runs butter smooth for me
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Nostalgia ICS - no probs whatsoever with Space Angry Birds.
I guess it could be something I have running in the background then since all of those other roms work fine with it.
Edit: It looks like you are all running ICS roms, im not.
You could overclock or just change the way your processor is being used like setting to lagfree or something like that
Decraptivated Samsung
Got the exact setup Legend 3.7 on rfs runs fine. might be an app killing your ram.
I have 66 of 329MB free RAM. What are you guys at?
I'm at 221 of 329 =108
Sorry for the stupid question, but how are you all at 329 usable RAM? I am running Legend 3.7 with corn 7.06 and under Running Services i'm only totaling 277
Runs fine on Slim. I've found everything runs better for me on ICS ROMs.
emarek1986 said:
Sorry for the stupid question, but how are you all at 329 usable RAM? I am running Legend 3.7 with corn 7.06 and under Running Services i'm only totaling 277
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329 is what Android System Info (the app) is showing for Max Ram. Running Services shows me a total of 238MB (used+free).
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Runs fine on Slim. I've found everything runs better for me on ICS ROMs.
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How do the ICS roms handle the buttons along the bottom? Do they get ignored for the new on scsreen ones?
kevria said:
How do the ICS roms handle the buttons along the bottom? Do they get ignored for the new on scsreen ones?
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Nope they work like they always did on Samsung roms. You can choose whether or not you want the on screen ics buttons or not, but the regular buttons ALWAYS work fine . You should upgrade to ICS, I can even play temple run without any lag (always lagged on Samsung TouchWiz roms to a certain point). Try Cyanogenmod 9 or AOKP.
It works just fine over here on miui gb with glitch kernel overclocked to 1.3 ghz, and also had no issues on previous gb roms. As a previous poster advised you so will I, if ur facing lag be sure to clear ram before running the game and ultimately overclock if lag persist, also try out different kernels (talon,dark core,xcal's).
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It works just fine over here on miui gb with glitch kernel overclocked to 1.3 ghz, and also had no issues on previous gb roms. As a previous poster advised you so will I, if ur facing lag be sure to clear ram before running the game and ultimately overclock if lag persist, also try out different kernels (talon,dark core,xcal's).
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I switched from samurai to Corn 3.6 to see if that would help but havent had a chance to test it (maybe this weekend).
Edit: Its no better with Corn 3.6
kevria said:
I have 66 of 329MB free RAM. What are you guys at?
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I have 341MB of ram with Serenidipty 7. And Angry Birds Space runs smooth.
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kevria said:
I switched from samurai to Corn 3.6 to see if that would help but havent had a chance to test it (maybe this weekend).
Edit: Its no better with Corn 3.6
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Sry to hear, btw the latest corn it's at vs 7.06 so be sure to try that, look for it in the development section. Also in cwm recovery corn should have a tweak option setting, and within tweaks u can overclock, or just grab voltage control app from the market to make the necessary changes.
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To be sure I just checked how much ram the game uses while running ,holy crap, it needs 100 mb
So I'm pretty sure that ur facing lag due to lack of ram (stop running and also cached procceses in the task manager to free up ram).
Limitz Cash said:
I have 341MB of ram with Serenidipty 7. And Angry Birds Space runs smooth.
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The rom has nothing to do with the amount of ram, it's all kernel. U are probably on talon's bigmem kernel.
Slim ICS 3.2, very smooth, not lag.
On ICS, i don't need to care how much free RAM which I have.

[Q] Performance of [ROM][JB-4.3.1][HALO] CM 10.2

I am interested in this ROM recently posted in the Development section: "[ROM][JB-4.3.1][HALO][P7300/P7310][PORTED] CyanogenMod 10.2 / SGT7"
The last time I experimented with a JB 4.3 ROM on this tablet (back in October), I had issues with Netflix. Excessive buffering and choppiness.
Has anyone used this ROM and tested Netflix extensively? How was it working?
Martin089 said:
I think it is a good and fast ROM, but it does not work 3G and telephony
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Thanks.... I ended up trying it and am quite pleased. I don't have a 3G-enabled tablet so that is a non-issue for me.
drwtsn32x said:
Thanks.... I ended up trying it and am quite pleased. I don't have a 3G-enabled tablet so that is a non-issue for me.
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After using it for a while longer, I am seeing buffering/choppiness with Netflix. Anyone else? Otherwise this ROM is pretty nice.
drwtsn32x said:
After using it for a while longer, I am seeing buffering/choppiness with Netflix. Anyone else? Otherwise this ROM is pretty nice.
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I gave up on this ROM.... it just felt too slow. Not sure if it's because not enough RAM was left over for apps and the like, but everything just felt way too slow.
I am now trying the Stock-based Ultra ROM and the performance is MUCH better. Of course I have to put up with the Samsung stuff.
drwtsn32x said:
I gave up on this ROM.... it just felt too slow. Not sure if it's because not enough RAM was left over for apps and the like, but everything just felt way too slow.
I am now trying the Stock-based Ultra ROM and the performance is MUCH better. Of course I have to put up with the Samsung stuff.
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I used this rom for a couple of months and never experienced lag except in hd videos and games. I disabled animations, disabled hw overlays, forced gpu rendering and set background process limit to four processes at most. Used nova launcher amd set all amimations to lightning fast and this rom worked like a charm.....never had to overclock. I also disabled a number of apps that I never use.

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