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I think everyone who use shift want that it become fullphone.
I`m sure that everyone ready to donate 50$ for this function.
but there are just one person who can do it, cmonex?
I call all to join to this who want this functionality we`ll make a foundation and donate money for this deal.
just one and final question to cmonex: will you do it and does it possible?
P.S. maybe someone other be able to do it?
why not,
I donate for SD Card funtionality too, if that works, we can porting Windows Mobile 6.1 to Shift, and maybe - later we can use Display drivers from HTC Touch HD
Maybe then the shift is useful
why not...
yes... count me in too... //_^
And then we could sell it to htc... hehe
Since they are incapable to give us a fully functional device, and they are not software supportive... to let us use it in higher computing speeds like ... not vista?
The vista thing is too much for the shift and you know it...
The shift is supposed to be a solution for the modern man, that has the need for a computer and a phone use simultaneously.
The shift is supposed to be a solution for us and not trouble...
I don't want to be radio waved by two devices every day... my Shift and my w810i ...
Honorably Yours,
P.S.
I 've made a small search about it's processor expandability.
And the news so far are bad... sort of...
They used a radio board that is not expendable.. at all... the processor socket is μFC-BGA663. A technology that has not been used for anything else... 0,90 nn in a parallelogram design. (not square!) As they use to.
The atoms are in a 0,45 nn technology with the μFC-BGA 478 and μFC-BGA 479 sockets...
I checked intel's site and i found that the information for the A100 and A110 "Steally" processors have only few information. AND THEY ARE NOT ON THE MAIN MENU!
They are allready passed the technology.
Why don't they make something in 0,45 nn for 663? (bigger chip more space... they could fit a quad or trio in there for crying out loud!... they have the tech to do it. They fit all ready dual cores in 478-9).
So forget about them too...
No daughterboard so far made to support another processor either...
So we could hope for a daughterboard ... but in a very small size :/
Anyway's ... if someone made this type of search and wants to share some information... i'm full ears. I'm really interested in upgrading the CPU.
Thank You.
50 US$: ok, but...
I would like to donate 50$ for this project (and I'll probably do that).
But do you really think that having a couple more of **** to "burn" should solve the problem? I mean: we're all beta-testers for new ROM's, and I read many posts of very clever people talking about daughterboards (and I really don't understand a single word of it, sorry ) . I mean: every strenght is just out there: people succeding in installing ubuntu or Xp Tablet, in changeing HDD, others waiting for new RAM to be produced, many cooking ROM's... Not to talk about software and optimization tips&tricks... What else do we need? I think: just some coordination, someone able to say "Ok, guys, we did this and we need to do that: let's try this way". Am I wrong?
So: if some of you needs his time to be paid I totally agree and I will give my contribution (I don't even want to think about any mean of "control" on the job that will be done), but if the only problem is to "beta-test" new solutions, sjust open a new thread, maybe naming it: "Do That On Your Risk"
Of course this is all IMHO
cmonex, where are you?
hehe, you all are right
normaly the best way is, to sell the shift and maybe you lose not to much money if you do that "now". Better to loose now 200-400€, as wait for semiprofessional solutions that comes maybe next half year. I buyed the Advantage X7510 befor i buyed the Shift, (better known as MDA AMEO 16GB) and they was **** too, i loosed as I resell them 400€ ;-) Then I believe in Shift, and this Device is not really better.
Best way is to buy a NET PC that is much cheaper - or if you want professional 8.9" Screen with Touchscreen (as sample) use the Fujitsu Siemens TabletPC Lifebook P1620. That is all much better to use, as an shift..
I´m really angry about HTC, I think, i have buyed most of all HTC´s that was sell in Europe, we have maybe 7000 USers with most Windows Mobile Push Services and most HTC Devices. But the quality is sometimes good, sometimes bad.
And the End of the Song: We have buyed 20000 Client Licences for Blackberry..
Sad, since 2001 I provide HTC Devices (or Operators branded HTC Devices) at the Side our customers and now I think that is the End...
I have try many other Devices from other companys then HTC, but most of them have same or related problems like HTC devices.
But for me is it not longer a problem, i have quit my job as technical responsible for that in our company last week and change to a other company - maybe then I have new Visions
howto deploy a Email Push Service for over 100000 Users
And maybe, it is not a WM Device, Not A Blackberry, maybe it is Nokia ´s Intellisync V9 Services, that works really stable on Nokia´s long powered S60 Phones.
And maybe: Nokia listen to my questions, improvements.
Maybe there is hope ;-)
Well, I think that there are two kinds of problems:
1. Software/ROM: and I just spoke of this a few posts ago.
2. Hardware: as much as you try to push Shift's functionality to the highest level, you'll always have to manage with RAM and processor... And as far as I can see, most of ROM's here published and cooked don't allow much more programs to be installed (I'm currently using Pli's ROM, and I just installed PhatNotes, then almost no more room for other things!!!). And I think that the most we try to get from our Shift, the less space we will have.
Anyway: when we bought Shift we all knew which were its limits, and more or less we accepted them. To me the only important missing SW is a web browser (PIE or Opera ). Not absolute need for GPS, and I can say I could live even without phone-on-shift.
As always IMHO
Hileotech said:
Well, I think that there are two kinds of problems:
1. Software/ROM: and I just spoke of this a few posts ago.
2. Hardware: as much as you try to push Shift's functionality to the highest level, you'll always have to manage with RAM and processor... And as far as I can see, most of ROM's here published and cooked don't allow much more programs to be installed (I'm currently using Pli's ROM, and I just installed PhatNotes, then almost no more room for other things!!!). And I think that the most we try to get from our Shift, the less space we will have.
Anyway: when we bought Shift we all knew which were its limits, and more or less we accepted them. To me the only important missing SW is a web browser (PIE or Opera ). Not absolute need for GPS, and I can say I could live even without phone-on-shift.
As always IMHO
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I have to agree.
I bought the Shift as it was advertised, a UMPC with built in high speed wireless modem!
There is nothing wrong with people experimenting for developement to get more functionality out of it in a purely non-professional way, but as soon as people start demanding ROM's from enthusiasts (and treating them as if they get a warranty!) and complaining that the device is rubbish because it does not do something it was never marketed to do, then you know they have lost the plot.
Also, IMHO too..
hey, i know theres a way to put it on the kaiser already. any way on putting it on the x1?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
Would be cool.
I want to install OS X too!
That would be pretty cool to see if it could be done
Im also interested in android for the x1, but just not yet. Dont really think its mature enough yet ( the OS )
cheers
at the current point of time i dont see a reason to use android either...
software for that plattform is still very very limited compared to WinMo
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I want to install OS X too!
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yeah, I want to install OS2 warp!
seriously... it's a brand new device, don't start to bother with impossible requests
toxical said:
at the current point of time i dont see a reason to use android either...
software for that plattform is still very very limited compared to WinMo
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Learn some Java, write your own games and programs, and change the OS however you like. Maybe that's a reason?
I must say after playing with a G1 for a couple weeks now, getting gmail/contacts/calendar sync straight out of the box is really quite nice, and the interface is a real breath of fresh air for high-end devices.
However Android is still missing some key features (that I personally need) -- and not just whimsical "Hello world!" apps -- so like most other people I'll be waiting a few more software revisions/releases before I jump ship. But I am looking forward to it!
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Learn some Java, write your own games and programs, and change the OS however you like. Maybe that's a reason?
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yeah, like i have unlimited free time My phone has to work and offer good features/software..i am sure android will be great, its just not there yet.
guap said:
yeah, I want to install OS2 warp!
seriously... it's a brand new device, don't start to bother with impossible requests
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i dont see why its an impossible request... its been done to two htc phones already just waiting on a port to the x1..
Sony Ericsson Indonesia said:
i dont see why its an impossible request... its been done to two htc phones already just waiting on a port to the x1..
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Well I think it's technically impossible until some developers get their hands on a X1 (or two), and right now I don't think any of them have any. No doubt a call for donations will be due for such a tall order.
xperia
How do you install Iphone OS on the xperia. It will be so cool. The xperia is way too slow and rough compared to the iphone 3g. Its like comparing a bus with a Ferrari. The Ferrari being the iphone.
greatestkelvin said:
How do you install Iphone OS on the xperia. It will be so cool. The xperia is way too slow and rough compared to the iphone 3g. Its like comparing a bus with a Ferrari. The Ferrari being the iphone.
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Hope for your sake you're just kidding
Also, you can carry a lot of useful things on a bus. With a Ferrari, it's just you and maybe one passenger.
You can already install a gimped version of Android on most WM phones..in fact it was possible several months ago. Someone pieced together a beta build using the Android-SDK. You install it in windows mobile and then choose to run it over WM. It isn't worth it though...not until someone takes the source and codes something specific to the X1 and even then it probably won't be great since the X1 can't do Multi-Touch like the OS is supposedly intended for either.
Just like others have said, the OS is still in rough shape. It would need quite a bit of work to get it going properly on an X1 and even then you would be limited.. However given a recent "leak" of info from MS it seem we should be expecting a WM6.5 upgrade in the comming months before WM7's launch that will give a better experience to users with touch screen phones. This likely means a better looking layout that is easier to navigate by finger.
I'm waiting for my X1. Then I'm gonna try to get Android 2 work.
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It isn't worth it though...not until someone takes the source and codes something specific to the X1 and even then it probably won't be great since the X1 can't do Multi-Touch like the OS is supposedly intended for either.
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Wouldn't "multi-touch" be an OS feature and not a hardware one?
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I'm waiting for my X1. Then I'm gonna try to get Android 2 work.
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Whoo!! i bow down to you hope ur x1 comes soon.. i bought mine to mess around with...
well this is a cool thing, but just for playing around, you cant work on a day to day base with that yet i bet.
Are there even drivers for the SD Card, Bluetooth, GPS, Camera and all that stuff done yet for other HTC phones running Android? Without all of that working its quite useless, on the other hand its important that some people get into it but as a enduser i wouldnt put any hopes in that.
well from what i understand the way you put android on htc devices it runs ontop of winmo so you can play around with it and when ur bored or whatever you can just switch back to windows mobile instead of android.. isnt a bad thing to try out imho..
right now im semi bored and trying out the polaris/kaiser/vouge files... the polaris one doesnt work.. gonna try others..
Both actually. The OS has to have support for it, but the screen needs to be able to register more than 1 simultaneous touch. You could technically use a few different types of screens for Multi-Touch, but most used today (Resistive) aren't that great and won't work as well when processing multiple inputs. The iphone, G1 use Capacitive touch screen thats offer a high level clarity and make recognition for a multi-touch enviroment a lot better.
The basic differenence recognition. Resistive, such as that used in most HTC devices (including the X1) has 2 layers with a gap inbetween and works off pressure. When you press on the screen, the "gap" shortends and the screen below pinpoints the pressed area from that, which isn't that great if you touch multiple locations the ability for the lower screen to recognize the location of the press will diminish because not only does the gap shorten there, but it also shorten in the distance between the to points. Other ways are to use tons of little cameras around screen, like the MS Surface, but that isn't that great either, specifically on a smaller screen size.
The ROM of the HTC HERO is already on XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533808
The HD and Hero share some hardware so ...
What would be the problem when porting the Android HERO ROM to the HTC Blackstone.
Does anybody think that it will be possible to run it on the HD in the future?
No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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That's why I said that they share "some"of the HW..
(I read almost all the android topics and the forum search function did not work today..)
1] This indeed seems to be a problem also in the first attempt by xmoo and others
2]Tuxhero has moved his android porting work to http://www.androidkernel.org/
I think that the most difficult part is to have at least an Android version running on HD. Any version. Afterwards will be more simple to have any android flavor on HD.
So keep the finger crossed for tuxhero.
Same specification doesn't mean they run exactly the same hardware. Display controller might be different, various controllers are different (and so are the registers), it's not as easy as people might think when it comes to porting OS to different devices. I see this as a common misconception and people usually don't (or won't) understand until they go through it (which obviously usually they don't as they prefer someone else does the things for them).
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Same specification doesn't mean they run exactly the same hardware. Display controller might be different, various controllers are different (and so are the registers), it's not as easy as people might think when it comes to porting OS to different devices. I see this as a common misconception and people usually don't (or won't) understand until they go through it (which obviously usually they don't as they prefer someone else does the things for them).
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I couldn't agree more..
I would like to be able to programme it myself, but it's an illusion to finish it before 2012 ...
I'm not really interested in Android, but the TouchFlo3D "Sense" is astonishingly amazing and i really hope to see that feature ported to the Blackstone..
The fact that you need to have the knowledge about linux kernel (plus phenomenal programming skills of course) is probably the hardest thing in porting android. Besides, blackstone isn't as affordable as other devices are, so to have people who really are committed to porting android would probably be a big bless.
There was one time when I actually thought about selling my blackstone and get G1/Magic instead..
This will be great!
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVdcStE9po
This will be great!
Check this out..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVdcStE9po
dosari666 said:
I'm not really interested in Android, but the TouchFlo3D "Sense" is astonishingly amazing and i really hope to see that feature ported to the Blackstone..
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I may be wrong but I think the Sense UI is android based...
sosojerk said:
No, the HW is not identical.
The fact that they have the same CPU doesn't mean that the HW is the same.
The issue can be:
1. Lack of drivers for Android platform for HD.
2. Lack of people to finalize the Andriod port on HD.
and some others.
Use search please as this question was asked a zilion times before.
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What are the hardware differences then? I guess that would be step one of porting... How can you write drivers or search for drivers if you do not know what your looking/programming for?
boqonx said:
There was one time when I actually thought about selling my blackstone and get G1/Magic instead..
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On this moment this thought is still in my head, a HTC Hero or even an Iphone.
checkeys said:
On this moment this thought is still in my head, a HTC Hero or even an Iphone.
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Though i fight for HTC's, last night a friend with a iphone 3gs came to me and started telling me how great it is etcetc. So i told him to make a small demonstration.
The first thing he did show me was the installer and cydia, where tons of people write apps and stuff and oh boy i was impressed.
Next thing he showed me was a app called shazam, it was a small app that could recognize every song that it could hear so i was impressed as well. ( installed a wm6 version of it on mine and didnt work nearly good as it did on iphone )
Scrolling is great, its ui is great, everything runs really smooth and i kinda miss that feeling.
Now if they do write a turn-by-turn gps app like destinator or igo, i am dumping my blackstone in like seconds.
Sorry but it feels that way
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Now if they do write a turn-by-turn gps app like destinator or igo, i am dumping my blackstone in like seconds.
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iGO will release soon their iGO My Way for iPhone.
But don't dump your backstone just yet. There are still fundamental limitations in iPhone that I couldn't live with.
Your are bound to iTunes, movies all need transcoding (iPhone lasks mass storage for USB apart from HD and for movies you need tools to convert them for iPhone), you are bound by apple accesories (like in house connectors while HD has mini USB). and if I dig more I can found many more things that are not so cool about iPhone (no ROM development like for Hd that gives you some real new things).
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Next thing he showed me was a app called shazam, it was a small app that could recognize every song that it could hear so i was impressed as well.
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Shazam MusicID is also available for WM, I have it om my MIRI 6.5 ROM and it works perfect.
You can find it on piratebay, in one of the threads, and it is also included in Dutty's ROMs.
checkeys said:
Shazam MusicID is also available for WM, I have it om my MIRI 6.5 ROM and it works perfect.
You can find it on piratebay, in one of the threads, and it is also included in Dutty's ROMs.
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Like i said, i installed musid id on my hd, and i had them next to the iphone trying to identify the same songs and it had a success rate of 50%
Very possibly the most useless reason to get an iPhone I have heard so far...
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Like i said, i installed musid id on my hd, and i had them next to the iphone trying to identify the same songs and it had a success rate of 50%
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Then I show you these things:
- You can ask your friend to watch a video clip on youtube and you'll be proud of your HD.( HD is high definition and larger screen, faster than Iphone, I'm sure)
- Ask your friend to take a photograph and compare
- Compare with your friend how many application he can get with Iphone?
- Try to utilize your GPS speed
- To me, HD is for high class man and Iphone is for women
- Moreover, Iphone has exclusive Multi-touch right? But you can zoom by double touch . Ask your friend how inconvenience in terms of exchanging files ( connect to cable, go to Iphone center.) How convenience when you have a bluetooth
How can you fight for HTC when you dont know what are the strengths of its??!!
I know you guys have talked about this already, but has anyone tried to load it? Maybe a derivitive of the HD2 rom for WP7? I bet anything that it would work, it would just be a little slower.....please give some feedback for this thread
i agree the tp2 deserves a try they said we couldn't overclock now look @ us
P.S also make a CDMA version for us sprint people
I'm sure someone could get it running. Nothing is impossible.
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I'm sure someone could get it running. Nothing is impossible.
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+1 to that.
The problem is the processor architecture...
WP7 on TP2
I bet that it wouldn't matter, they say the requirements are what they are, but they can operate on lower specs, just won't operate at optimum efficiency. If the HD2 and WP7 Phones are at 1ghz, its not bad that we are at 748mhz+. I bet it will work!!! I know technical aspects, but it sucks I don't know how to actually do any of it!!!! Maybe someone should come up with a bounty
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I bet that it wouldn't matter, they say the requirements are what they are, but they can operate on lower specs, just won't operate at optimum efficiency. If the HD2 and WP7 Phones are at 1ghz, its not bad that we are at 748mhz+. I bet it will work!!! I know technical aspects, but it sucks I don't know how to actually do any of it!!!! Maybe someone should come up with a bounty
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Whatever, TP2 runs a Qualcomm processor ARMv6, while Snapdragon is ARMv7.
WP7 requires ARMv7.
It's not as easy as you think, guys.
can we get it
maybe lescro could chime in
No, we can NOT get WP7 ever. It's just not possible. As Jackos said, WP7 is built on ARMv7. The TP2 has an ARMv6 chipset. The ARMv6 CPU just can't execute the code in WP7. It has nothing to due with the speed of the CPU. Just like how certain Adobe software doesn't work on old AMD/Intel CPU's because they're missing the SSE2 instruction set.
EDIT: This has been stated by Da_G many times & trust me, he knows what he's talking about. Follow Da_G on Twitter.
Mod, please close this thread.
It is possible but very difficult to do. Some has to make it ARMv6 able.
WP7 on TP2
Like others said, it was impossible to OC our TP2's, and now look!!! You're right, the WP7 on an ARMv6 core would be difficult to do, but someone can do it! It's kind depressing that everyone keeps saying "never" will we have it on the TP2. If you can create a theme from throttlelauncher that does just about everything that the WP7 itself can do, I would wager that you could modify the WP7 rom to execute off of the ARMv6 core....problem is nobody wants to spend the time to do so for free, so we should come up with a bounty.
Actually when these devs tell you that the code can not run they aren't explaining (rightfully because it might fall on deaf ears) that windows ce is closed source so changing anything would require a large amount of work if the kernel can be changed at all. Its not like the linux kernel where we can go in and change things in the source code then compile. WP7 is what it is its like saying that windows 7 can run on an arm processor yeah it probably could but you would have to change the kernel which i believe only microsoft has the ability to do. Just tough it out like the rest of us until your upgrade date. Please no more WP7 on TP2 threads
is this really a question? FIRST of all, it is impossible. Second of all, there are various themes that would be more stable than any wm7 port if there was ever a dev who had some magical touch. yeah, we can overclock. but who here can safely oc to 1g? closest i get is 768. and that gets touchy.
believe me, theres no way/reason to do this. just buy a new phone
WP7 on TP2
My only problem, which is quite a personal problem, is that I am not allowed to have a camera on my phone where I work.....so this blows because they will not make any more cameraless phones. So anything to make my TP2 any better, I'm all game. Besides, I absolutely HATE on screen keyboards, no matter how accurate they are. Again, just a personal problem.
You're job will end up changing that rule. They have too, because cameraless cell are sadly a thing of the past. I don't know a single person who doesn't have a camera on their cell. As for the hardware KB, check out the HTC 7 Pro. It's a 1Ghz Snapdragon WP7 version of the TP2.
Somethings are impossible.... Overclocking is one thing but executing code compiled for a different CPU is NOT the same thing!
As others have pointed out, it's ARM v6 vs V7 and it's not a code issue - its a microcode issue - the v6 does not have the same instruction set so the code cannot execute.
Short of M$ recompiling the code (not very likely), releasing the source (even less likely) or writing a V6 interpreting shell (can you say SLOW) it ain't going to happen.
Deal with it and wait till your contract is over and get a new phone when you can
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You're job will end up changing that rule. They have too, because cameraless cell are sadly a thing of the past. I don't know a single person who doesn't have a camera on their cell. As for the hardware KB, check out the HTC 7 Pro. It's a 1Ghz Snapdragon WP7 version of the TP2.
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No, I am 100% Certain my work will not change that rule. They will prohibit cell phones altogether before allowing a camera. But I will check out the HTC 7 pro
if you go to wp7 forum theres alot of problems with that phone
...like any phone
but there are alot of themes for our phone
like lesscrco wp7
BTW. Why would anyone need WP7 on TP2? Imho it's good enough with WM6.5.
WP7 would only decrease the functionality and cause problems like battery life or performance.
Emulator
Emulation is possible, ask the people who wrote BOCHS or Pear PC.
However, it's absolutely not practical to go down this route. It would require an amazing amount of work for what would be a very slow WP7 device with no battery life.
The time and money spent on a project like this would be better put to improving WM6 or Android.
1milenia said:
if you go to wp7 forum theres alot of problems with that phone
...like any phone
but there are alot of themes for our phone
like lesscrco wp7
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I bought my wife the Samsung Focus and we have absolutely no problems with it. WP7 is perfect just left stock. WP7 is probably the best PPC OS out there now.
DFT team has released a video of Android running on nand pro2
RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
youtube.com/watch?v=yOGnQ3D5IDk
wow
hey , sound good,
i hope working an topaz,too
i think they both phones have similar technical data.
i dont understand why cpu is to slow, lenin reds built with sense
run much more faster from sdcard than this nand built ????
btw good work from the DFT Team , thx
hello there. let's hope topaz, aka touch diamond2, wont be forgotten.
I'll be willing to pay for good working rom
sounds promising
waiting for more updates
Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.
loadstone007 said:
Hopefully it will be working on our phones as well.
BTW, one of the comments said to be using Neopeek's android roms. Can someone post a link, I must have missed them.
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Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...
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Click here. Anyway its a little bit outdated but try it and be sure to update kernel, rootfs,...
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Thanks!
It's indeed outdated, perhaps I should just wait.
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RHO's CPU is too slow and screen resolution too high for sense, so we decide to make pure Android ROM based on Android 2.2
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Well, i don't know if this will be the same decision for topaz. But if yes then it's a bad bad info for me
I just hate pure android and sense in android rocks!!
I also don't understand this because i have lenin build and it's fasttt from sdcard!!!
Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
Anyway thanks for all who make this possible even if it no feet my needs!!
Thank you
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Shouldn't be even faster from nand??
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AFAIK nand is not faster than sd-method. But it would allow you too get rid off winmo.
actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.
1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.
Airpil said:
1 - Topaz is very small mobile phone. I am don't wants to use such big phone like HD2.
2 - Battary life in topaz is more longer
3 - It have smaler screan and that is why it is more clear.
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you misunderstood my post, i'm just tryin to say how thing are and hd2 was best example i could think of. i like my diamonds very much. first gen was really awesome on looks, but low on hardware(slow and small ram..etc).
i wish there will be some goodies from dft soon
stirkac said:
actually guys, your phone won't improve that much after NAND. believe me i'm hd2 user and i have used android since first versions based off xdandroid..
as far as speed goes, read/write is actually faster on sdcard!
only andvantage of nand is stability and power consumption, ofcourse after all quirks are polished.
qc's 528 msm's are too slow to run sense well. it can get slow even on 1ghz. wvga is too much to handle, and sense is very ram sensitive! maybe if someone could get it upscaled from hvga, but in that case it would be streched..
i also own both diamonds(I and II) and i would love to see winmo gone. but on good port like leo(feels like native device) we had advantage of few devices with same components built in and much work being already done, and i do not see wvga android with small screen and 528mhz released by htc.
i'm just being realistic here, not mean or anything else.
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quited d2 and joined moto defy~~~
What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR
Black.Heart said:
What happened to this project??? I didn't see MAGLDR
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It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...
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It was closed-source, and I don't believe they ever made a public release. Since none of the code is available to the public, no other dev can pickup where they left off...
Crappy model to go with. Were still pushing forward with NAND using open source concepts, and RHOD is getting there (just very slowly). I'm hoping each device will have at least one dev that will step up and get the dirty work done to look towards NAND on all devices... but that hasn't happened yet. There's not even that much (developer) steam behind NAND on RHOD...
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I am very much upset with that you are right!