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Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
chetanthaker said:
Hi Guys
I tried searching before I posted this one - if not, I'm sorry
I have a stock unlocked Nexus One AT&T (EPE54B) with stock (unrooted) 2.1 installed
Since Google has started rolling out Froyo update for the Nexus this week, I am very much looking forward to it
A small question I had was if I update to Froyo (FRF85) over the air, do I lose the data on my phone? I have MyBackupPro installed - Will that help, or should I do something else?
Will it be the same if I install Froyo manually?
Cheers to all for reading this post
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You shouldn't lose data in either case, assuming you don't wipe when doing a manual install, but I would certainly use something like titanium backup just to be sure.
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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Astro File manager would back up all your apps, but will not backup your app data.
chetanthaker said:
@MSigler
Thanks for the reply - But don't I need to root to get TitaniumBackup to work?
Wouldn't any app that does not need root back my stuff up 'reliably'?
Just a little paranoid about rooting my 2-month old Nexus.
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D'oh! You're right. I keep forgetting not everyone is rooted.
You really aren't going to lose much with a stock rom though.
Any paid apps will show up in market under "Downloads" so you can download them again.
Your contacts and emails are synced through your google account.
Pictures and music are on your SD card, so they won't be effected at all.
Basically, if for some reason you have to wipe your phone data, you will lose your call log, your app settings (meaning you'll have to go back into the apps and set up your preferences and such), and your text messages.
You shouldn't lose anything at all, but that's the worst case.
I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
iboj007 said:
I updated from unrooted EPE54B using the manual method and didn't lose a thing....
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Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
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Yeah, you shouldn't lose any data, but I would feel like **** if I told him not to worry about it and he lost all his data, so I'm going with worst case.
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Thanks guys
I'll try updating my phone manually today (if I do not get an OTA update by today noon) - Will update my findings here
I guess this answers my question and we can consider this a closed topic.
Ok, i just updated my stock unrooted unlocked N1 2.1 to Froyo in less than 6 minutes.
Confirmed no data loss when you update.
Sweet!
I went under settings, applications, and I do not have an option anywhere under any of the menus including development menu to allow applications to install from unknown sources. I have done everything in the Captivate User guide(rooting,backup,recovery).
I am trying to install market enabler.
Phone is Rooted.
Go to the development section and look at the sticky called enable sideloading. Or you can load the stock rom and use sre and it will enable it for you.
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
Did you mean the "[How To] Enable Non-Market apps on Captivate (consolidated)" Sticky?
I am not exactly a power user yet. That was a whole lot of impossible for me.
Yes you found the right thread. You are going to have to get very comfortable with terms in threads like that if you plan to flash or modify your phone
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I am so lost, I just don't know where to begin.
What would be the best way for me to do it?
Omgosh I did it! Wow. It only took.... lets not say how long.
Shival said:
Omgosh I did it! Wow. It only took.... lets not say how long.
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Oh know your on your way to the addiction now. I'm so hooked I only had my HTC Aria for one month and had to go buy a captivate just cause I had to have more . Now starts the waiting for the next best rom. Damn your doomed .
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I am so lost, I just don't know where to begin.
What would be the best way for me to do it?
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SRE! I think it is suggested to un-root first. Check the sre thread, its a rom and kernel that roots, overclocks, removes bloatware if you want, unlocks tethering, installs busy box, installs app to fool the market so it thinks you're on another network and opens the ability to install unknown sources all in one update.zip.
Flash to stock with the odin one click and rename the sre file to update.zip and reboot into recovery and reinstall packages you'll have everything you ever want in a phone. For now.
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Kizzmiazz said:
Oh know your on your way to the addiction now. I'm so hooked I only had my HTC Aria for one month and had to go buy a captivate just cause I had to have more . Now starts the waiting for the next best rom. Damn your doomed .
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I know all too well about that feeling after having my HTC Blackstone, From Winmo 6.1 - 6.5.5 and TF3D-Sense.
If you are having problems have a look at unleash the beast. It has an easy way to add sideloading. It also adds many other useful features.
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lost
I'm still lost any root for dummys? I all redy root it an i have superuser but, and now? How. I can instal the apps o were i can get it?
Helppppppp!!!!
Dani897 said:
SRE! I think it is suggested to un-root first. Check the sre thread, its a rom and kernel that roots, overclocks, removes bloatware if you want, unlocks tethering, installs busy box, installs app to fool the market so it thinks you're on another network and opens the ability to install unknown sources all in one update.zip.
Flash to stock with the odin one click and rename the sre file to update.zip and reboot into recovery and reinstall packages you'll have everything you ever want in a phone. For now.
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No you can be rooted as long as your on the stock rom. I've flashed back and forth from sre to another rom a few times and as long as your on the stock firmware its fine if your rooted. Matter of fact I would recommend rooting stock, then clockwork mod recovery nandroid backup of stock rom before moving on to another invade there are problems. If you use Odin beforehand, I'm pretty sure it will wipe your backups making them useless. ymmv
I am having the same issue. When I try to install an app it says "Install blocked for security, your phone is set to block installation of application not sourced in Android Market". As a safty feature it will not let me install any file/app that was not downloaded from the market place. How did you get it to work? My friend has the same phone but thru verizon, he said all he had to do was go into settings/applications and uncheck some security feature. Please help.
I am having the same issue. When I try to install an app it says "security block" as a safty feature it will not let me install any file/app that was not downloaded from the market place. How did you get it to work?
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Omgosh I did it! Wow. It only took.... lets not say how long.
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I just want to take this moment and point something out to everyone else who has never used ADB or the command prompt before who is reading this thread:
It looks more intimidating then it actually is. Once you get in there and start fooling around, it's not as hard as you originally thought. I'm telling you all, take the plunge, and try it out. I promise it's not that hard, and if you run into trouble, there are literally thousands of people on XDA at any given point in time. Somebody will answer your question if they haven't already. Remember to use the search feature!
Samsung Captivate rooted... but need help..
please help i am still stuck! i just rooted my samsung captivate phone today and tried to download apk apps off of 4shared... but when i go to install it the phone says it is blocked for security... applications not sourced in android market?? your help would be greatly appreciated thanks ...
MzSantiago said:
please help i am still stuck! i just rooted my samsung captivate phone today and tried to download apk apps off of 4shared... but when i go to install it the phone says it is blocked for security... applications not sourced in android market?? your help would be greatly appreciated thanks ...
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why dont no one uses super one click...its simplest way to root/unroot and to allow not market apps...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
MzSantiago said:
please help i am still stuck! i just rooted my samsung captivate phone today and tried to download apk apps off of 4shared... but when i go to install it the phone says it is blocked for security... applications not sourced in android market?? your help would be greatly appreciated thanks ...
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And please don't pirate apps... If you like it, buy it.
Keep getting 2.2.1 updates after root. How can this be stopped? Its annoying to keep rooting only to get the system updates again and again. I'm rooting with a signed fr91 file. Any way to stop this?
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Upgrade to 2.2.1 frg83 then use the one click super root to root 2.2.1 you won't get the update any more u can find it in nexus wiki
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Download 'Quick Boot' from the market and use it to reboot the phone. Then, clear the update notification from the notification menu. The update message should go away for a while (mine lasted a week before it came back).
I'm still somewhat hesitant to upgrade to FRG83 and use SuperOneClick since some people in the thread are reporting problems. I love my phone how it is right now!
kornball said:
Download 'Quick Boot' from the market and use it to reboot the phone. Then, clear the update notification from the notification menu. The update message should go away for a while (mine lasted a week before it came back).
I'm still somewhat hesitant to upgrade to FRG83 and use SuperOneClick since some people in the thread are reporting problems. I love my phone how it is right now!
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Do manual rage root ... no problems.
nexusdue said:
Do manual rage root ... no problems.
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Agreed!
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nexusdue said:
Do manual rage root ... no problems.
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Are you and Memnoch30 referring to the post you laid out in another thread? I'm pretty sure you wrote detailed instructions on how to do the manual rage root using adb. Will this method work fine if all I want is to run stock 2.2.1 with root-requiring apps like setcpu and move2sd enabler? Sorry for being such a noob
kornball said:
Are you and Memnoch30 referring to the post you laid out in another thread? I'm pretty sure you wrote detailed instructions on how to do the manual rage root using adb. Will this method work fine if all I want is to run stock 2.2.1 with root-requiring apps like setcpu and move2sd enabler? Sorry for being such a noob
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Yes: Instructions
But read the whole thread to make sure you know what you are doing!!
Any other options? I'm not going to fr83 and unfamiliar with rage root.
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Why don't you install a custom rom and be done with it.
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Any other options? I'm not going to fr83 and unfamiliar with rage root.
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I just installed 2.2.1 and used the SuperOneClick method to root the phone again. I had to turn the phone off, run the program, and then boot the phone for it to work. I suggest you try this method. It couldn't be much simpler.
Now i keep getting the new firmware update message and i cant seem to turn it off even with the quickboot. Any ideas?
Install the update, root again. Now really, this "idea" is 1 message above yours - what made you post?
Hm i tried to update but failed, could be due to tampering of the build number that I did previously but after that it didn't bug me anymore, at least not for now. Will try the superoneclick one next time. Thanks.
It might be back in several days, but if you've tampered with the system and advanced the build number - it shouldn't appear anymore.
yeah i sure hope so. will know in a few days
I noticed that on my Froyo enabled HD2 every time I install a new build the market automatically installs the apps there were downloaded previously. Is there a way for this to be enabled on Captivate ROMs? If this has been asked and answered somewhere else, please let me know. Thanks.
mobilelew said:
I noticed that on my Froyo enabled HD2 every time I install a new build the market automatically installs the apps there were downloaded previously. Is there a way for this to be enabled on Captivate ROMs? If this has been asked and answered somewhere else, please let me know. Thanks.
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You can use Titanium Backup to achieve the exact same thing.
Mine has always done that, maybe because I restore my Android ID. I flash my phone at least 2 times a week.
EDIT: Mis-read OP, my apps are not automatically installed but the Market seems to keep a history of FREE as well as PAID apps I had previously installed.
It may have to do with the product id. I know my aria did what you describe and I think the stock rom did as well. The froyo leaks mess up the android id and the efs folder. It may be responsible for our lack of that feature
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Only ROM for the Captivate that's every done this for me is the Cyanogen 6.1 Beta I tried out a while ago. Apps immediately just started downloading lol.
I thought touchwiz ripped that feature out.
I'd also like to request this. Titanium backup is different.
Having the right android id # only had about 1/4 of my free apps be saved so that didn't work for me
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Also had the same happening to me on Gingerbread. Prefer TiBu as I can restore my app data as well.
nbs11 said:
You can use Titanium Backup to achieve the exact same thing.
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Not exactly the same thing. I have to install TiBu (which is in the market) if I have not created the zip file to install via ClockWork or if it is not in the ROM already.
Have you seen what I am referring to? It is a much better process because it fully automated; add your google account and it begins pulling down your apps (including TiBu).
Dani897 said:
It may have to do with the product id. I know my aria did what you describe and I think the stock rom did as well. The froyo leaks mess up the android id and the efs folder. It may be responsible for our lack of that feature
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I have two different devices, Samsung Captivate and an HTC HD2. I use the same google account on both. I recently installed a newer, different ROM, put in my google account and it began to download the apps that I have loaded on my Captivate. If it is ID related, it does not seem to be a problem between devices.
How can I ensure that I am using the same ID on my Captivate between flashes?
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Also had the same happening to me on Gingerbread. Prefer TiBu as I can restore my app data as well.
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I have noticed that when I use TiBu to restore between flashes I get FC on app. I think this may have something to do with the Market ID option checked in TiBu. I have not been able to find a doc to explain these settings, so I end up having to redownload all my apps. As long as I am restoring on the same ROM I am good. However, if I try to restore between flashes (sometimes even between build updates) TiBu fails. Not sure why this happens.
Noob here. I've searched the forums and have tried to piece together what I need to know for what I would like to do. I think I have a general understanding, but was hoping someone could verify or clarify.
I've got a Nexus 1 running 2.3.3. Never been rooted. All OTA updates.
What I would like is to root it so that I can delete crap like Facebook and Amazon and make room on the built-in memory. I don't want to unlock the boot-loader, and I don't want to flash custom ROMs. I do want control of what is stored where, the ability to move things to SD (even if they aren't marked for that (and yes, aware that that can cause problems sometimes)), and the ability to run Titanium backup.
As I understand it, all of that can be done with just root permission. But it seems that simple root for the N1 under 2.3.3 isn't available. Can anyone comment?
Thanks,
DT
Depends what you call simple...
Since you don't want to unlock the bootloader, you can try using the passimg method to revert to an earlier build of android, and then use any "simple root" available.
Unfortunately, a small percentage of users don't seem to be able to use the passimg method, and if you get an "main version is older" error, then it means you are among them...
Passimg method can be found in the wiki, under the unroot/restore guide (passimg method, using FRG33):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...des_&_Tutorials#Unroot_.2F_Restore_your_Nexus
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Good luck rooting, without trying to unlock the bootloader. It's simply not available atm I belive. Any particular reason you don't want to unlock the bootloader, beside the warranty?
root without unlocking bootloader
I'm still coming up to speed on this, so it's quite possible that I don't understand all the subtleties.
What I want to do is uninstall space-wasting preinstalled junk, and to run Titanium backup. I'm not interested (for now) in custom ROMs. I think I want to avoid unlocking the bootloader both for the warranty (a minor issue), convenience (another minor issue that could be overcome...), and because I want to retain as much of a "stock" device as possible, mostly to allow for future OTA updates. From what I've read, it sounds like a root would accomplish all that. Hence I'd rather avoid all the additional complications if a simple root were in fact available.
Thanks for the help,
DT
Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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efrant said:
Unlocking the bootloader does not affect you device's ability to receive/install OTA updates, but removing "space-wasting preinstalled junk" will certainly prevent you from installing the OTA...
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Totally agree. If you check the threads that were active during the OTA onslaught, many people could not install stock Gingerbread due to removing stock system apps (Facebook, Amazon, Twitter, etc...)
...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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...but, if you have a custom recovery, you can still install the updates in a modified form.
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Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.
Thanks for the info. I hadn't thought about the OTA being affected by removal of unwanted programs.
DT
I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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Really? I was unaware of that. Would you mind posting a link to an OTA (say, Gingerbread for example) that I would be able to install on a stock Froyo ROM, which I had removed say, Amazon and Facebook?
Thanks.
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I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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I said modified - meaning rooted, or even just having the verifications taken out of the update script...
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I was just asking if anyone has done this (or does this), as I would certainly love to remove apps, as long as I can install future updates as they become available. (Doing that is beyond my knowledge...) I like my stock ROM, and I would certainly remove certain apps if I know someone would provide a "modified" update.zip for a stock ROM that doesn't check if Amazon, etc are installed.
What I don't want is to flash a new ROM every time an update came out...
It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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Easiest approach would probably be to take a backup of the stock image before you remove any apps, and restore it when you hear that an update is available...
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Restoring a NAND backup is essentially the same thing as flashing a new ROM, which is what I don't want to be doing. What would be good is to be able to install a modified/repacked/whatever-you-want-to-call-it OTA update file that has the check (which checks to see if apps are installed) disabled.
If it is just a line in a script that needs to be removed in an OTA, so that it will flash (with a custom recovery of course) with Amazon removed, it is surely doable, no? If it is doable, I am surprised that no one has done it for any of the updates... (at least I haven't seen any).
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It is very simple. If you remove stuff from the stock rom the ota will fail.
You will then need flash the same way as you would for any of the custom roms for updates.
Or you could manually put the stuff you removed back but that is probably more work then you want to do.
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Thanks, but my question was: is it possible to modify an OTA zip file in such a way that it disables checking for installed apps like Amazon?
This would be helpful, and I had never thought of it until danger-rat mentioned it, but I may have misunderstood his post - he was probably talking about just flashing a new ROM, but that is not what I am interested in.
Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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Yes, it's possible.
The update script is pretty big though, so you'd have your work cut out making sure you covered everything...
The other option would be to build an restore zip, that just reinstalled the apps you remove. Just add the apps to a zip as you restore them...
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That sounds like a good idea.
This is what I'd like to do as a test:
1) Restore a stock Froyo ROM
2) Remove the Amazon.apk (and possibly others) from my ROM and save it somewhere (and whatever other files would be needed).
3) Create an update.zip file that would place the Amazon.apk file back to the correct directory in a stock ROM (i.e., odexed).
4) Flash that update.zip
5) Flash the Gingerbread OTA and see if it works.
Would you be able to point me to a guide on how to create a flashable zip? Again, I would need to be able to do this for an odexed ROM.
Thanks.
EDIT: Nevermind. I found it here: http://www.londatiga.net/it/how-to-create-android-update-zip-package/
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I would just passimg back to stock 2.2 and then root it with z4root
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I agree this is what I did had no problems at all