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Hey all,
I'm running a T-Mobile G1, rooted with JF's newest 1.5 firmware and running just fine. As of last night I started getting notified that my phone had downloaded the new security fix from Google and would like to install it. There is no "Don't install" option that I can find, just "Install Now", "Install Later...", or "More Info". I just have been going to the "More info" option and backing out from there which seems to delay it for a few hours, but it just keeps coming back. Does anyone know if it will be safe to allow it to install (I don't want to try for fear of losing my precious root)? If I can't let it install, does anyone at least know of a way to get it to stop bugging me about it?
Thanks,
Bob
I thought JF's builds blocked OTA Updates...apparently not JF's ROMS are old flash the cyanogen's cupcake! So many goodies inside
That's what I thought too. After telling it off enough times it seems to have given up, so that should fix it for now, just hope that it doesn't come back.
I haven't heard of anyone loosing root from any OTA updates...think about it, it's the same as flashing a new ROM.
It will never go away as long as there's an update though, only when you actually do update. Google is picky like that!
bregant2 said:
Hey all,
I'm running a T-Mobile G1, rooted with JF's newest 1.5 firmware and running just fine. As of last night I started getting notified that my phone had downloaded the new security fix from Google and would like to install it. There is no "Don't install" option that I can find, just "Install Now", "Install Later...", or "More Info". I just have been going to the "More info" option and backing out from there which seems to delay it for a few hours, but it just keeps coming back. Does anyone know if it will be safe to allow it to install (I don't want to try for fear of losing my precious root)? If I can't let it install, does anyone at least know of a way to get it to stop bugging me about it?
Thanks,
Bob
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To keep the phone from checking for new updates try:
Go to Settings>Security, then scroll to the bottom, click firmware download and tick never. Should do the trick tho I don't know for sure as I haven't ever been prompted.
Then again, you shouldn't be getting OTA updates at all, haha.
lukekirstein said:
I haven't heard of anyone loosing root from any OTA updates...think about it, it's the same as flashing a new ROM.
It will never go away as long as there's an update though, only when you actually do update. Google is picky like that!
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You lose root because the update replaces the boot image and other images which are the key thing that is needed for root access on your phone.
Has anyone else received this update?
Not here.
Los Angeles, CA
lol figures once i get root an update starts rolling out, it probably enables wifi n like they released for the EVO today.
1.22.605.2 is the software version i have (rooted)
It adds 3G Mobile hotspot and fixes the signal issue, im in a pickle now though lol. cant remove superuser
Not exactly a pickle - just don't do the upgrade, wait for someone else to take the OTA download and make it root-safe.
where did you confirm this info as to what the update offers?
I guess i am confused, what would happen if we did the update with our rooted phones?
Nothing. Because with rooted phones you won't see the OTA Update...but if you were to manually upgrade without it being root proofed....you'd loose root.
Wait - weren't we already at 1.22.605.2? That's what rev I'm running, and I haven't taken an OTA since the first few days after launch.
giantcrazy said:
Wait - weren't we already at 1.22.605.2? That's what rev I'm running, and I haven't taken an OTA since the first few days after launch.
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Incredible OTA Update 1.65.605.2
I'm confused to, so if you are rooted, you won't see this update? or you will see it and if you do it, you lose root? I have the stock rom, which is what I thought disabled your OTA's is this an incorrect thinking?
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Wait - weren't we already at 1.22.605.2? That's what rev I'm running, and I haven't taken an OTA since the first few days after launch.
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The name of this post is Incredible OTA Update 1.65.605.2 so even though we are at 1.22.605.2 that is not 1.65.605.2
Thats the thing, i was rooted and did get the OTA update notifications, hit accept for the update by mistake. And the only reason why i confirmed that info is because i have it on my inc.
P.S sorry lol made a type in the title of the post, its 1.35.605.2
So if you updated as root, did you lose your Root? It is not guaranteed that you would loose it, just likely is all. I feel like they released it to break our Root, and nothing more... but maybe they fixed a few issues too... we have the same screen grounding issue the EVO had, and the recent update fixed theirs... but who knows...
EDIT: Posted an article to an outdated update. Oops...
so i assume you lost root?
Yes i did.
I haven't seen it yet. <-- OHIO
have you tried redoing root? did you loose recovery?
I havent tried redoing the root process again, but how is that going to work? isn't the root process based off of the original software? the baseband is different as well.
Haven't seen it yet either <-- Rhode Island
Didn't find any information on it either. Was their a "more info" link included with yours? as with other OTA updates. Changelog, etc.?
Better question would be, do you have a screen shot of your About Phone page (baseband, software version, etc.)
somebody who gets the update needs to upload the file so a dev can do something with it.
I figured, I would get the best response here... If you ROOT an Android phone, will downloading OTA updates through your phone brick it? I read an article about the new OTA for the EVO and it will brick rooted devices.
Misinformation. It would brick it if you applied it twice in sequence, not if you were rooted. You need the stock recovery to apply updates anyway, if you do get one it will not harm the phone because it can't be applied.
In the thread when the final OTA was coming out, lots of people that were rooted, said they installed it, it worked fine, but they lost root. So then they have to obtain root again.
So, I'd assume it would work fine if everything else was stock... you just might loose root.
So your saying, that if I were to install an OTA update through a rooted Android device running stock firmware, it would go through successfully without bricking it. But, if I ran the update a second time it would brick it. Correct?
If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.
Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.
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PurpleLlamaLover said:
Okay, thanks? But I would still like some more input on this situation.
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If your not rooted you can still flash OTA update leaks, there are plenty out there. If you want custom roms then you have to root. The stock recovery only flashes stock updates, not rooted updates. If your not getting it by reading the forums, then I suggest you stay on stock, and wait for OTA update.
efishta said:
If you're on a rooted stock rom, assuming you haven't flashed a custom recovery, the phone's recovery utility will not allow you to flash an OTA update because of a signature mismatch. I'm not sure what happened with the evo, but I don't believe it can happen with the nexus.
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No, this only happens with this specific update with the EVO.
Alright, great! Thanks guys. So since I believe the nexus one already got the offical OTA, did any of you lose ROOT access?
You WILL loose root when you update from an OTA update.
I had a rooted FRF50 and went to the FRF83 update and lost root/custom recovery, everything else was fine though.
I ask that you all forgiveth the newb nature of my question in advance, but if my phone has been rooted, and is currently running FRF50, is there anything I can do to the phone to have it automatically update using OTA? I ask because I received the notice for the OTA update the other day, but being rooted, got a signature mismatch error. (The only reason my phone is rooted is bc I bought it used that way-I wish I could've had it bone stock instead!) I know I can somehow do a manual update, but I'm trying to figure out for further future OTA updates if there's a way that I can have my phone simply automatically apply them.
Well, first off, thanks for hijacking.... AND, I have been doing a bunch of research. You should find the official build of froyo (FRF85B correct?) and manually update it. Just use it unrooted and it'll be easier when an OTA update comes along
Ok, so i attempted to manually retrieve the update released today, can I not do that yet(as in MUST it be pushed to my phone first)? Now i have to effing wait sub-24hrs for it again Admittedly i couldnt wait...this fone is nice minus the few issues it has and that we are all aware of.
Ive never had a chance to see the update experience on an Android fone, therefore as far as im concerned it did what it was supposed to...only it failed. the "No update was installed..." screen appeared after my fone was restarted and unlocked. I didnt take out the SIM, fone is rooted, start up media scaning is (more or less) disabled with an app i use, and i have the free lagfix from the market; the One Click thingy lol. Any Ideas anyone?
mine found update downloaded then tried to install and said cannot install and when i got to resume updates it says "no firmware" i think i just need to flash to stock before trying update
mine keeps saying that it cannot connect to the att servers.
Aw id rather not...took alota time for me to find apps an methods to make this fone more usable smh
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My phone is rooted and I have the same problem as ericos123. I think going back to stock would fix this problem. Sucks I have to redo everything.
What's the easiest way to go to stock? Anyone know?
will i lose all my media if i go back to stock?
Mine downloaded the file. I performed a backup prior to the update and started it. It came back and said "update failed" and when I attempted to resume it, it said no firmware. I checked the baseband and it said JH7 which is the version being pushed.
So I assume it actually passed but it failed on something minor as the phone operates just fine.
So far, that also seems to be the consensus that rooted/modified users will get errors. I modified my framework apk to put a better batter icon, and it is still there. Maybe it couldn't overwrite it...
Check your baseband and see if its already updated. (and if you couldn't get your update, use the date-forward trick (change the date forward 24hrs)).
Ok, I've tried the update 4 times and I can't get it to take. I've used Odin to go back to stock JF6 (checked re-partition). I also did the master clear thing! I compared my phone to a co-worker who has a completely stock Captivate and they appear to be identical!
The patch downloads fine, however when it restarts and begins to apply the patch, it gets to 50% and then says "Updates fail". It boots back up and says that the update was not successful!
Any ideas??
Check your "About Phone" screen. Mine failed as well, but when I checked mine this is what was different:
Baseband version: I897UCJH7
Kernel version: 2.6.29 | [email protected]sep-11 #2
I was stock + root prior to trying the update. Here is hoping this is a fix for the GPS, I will try and report back.
I don't think you do, but I'm not sure. That said, idont know how to bak to stock myself...guess it time for more XDA searching lol
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my failed at 100%, rooted and got rid of the att apps. maybe the update updates some att apps?
Yea my has "7" at the end too but I can remeber if it said it befor the update r not...
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I have two stock non-rooted phones and they both performed the update successfully.
Mine's rooted, and a few stock ATT apps removed. Update successful, took about 10mins total.
Yet to check for any changes/improvements.
krakerx said:
Check your "About Phone" screen. Mine failed as well, but when I checked mine this is what was different:
Baseband version: I897UCJH7
Kernel version: 2.6.29 | [email protected]sep-11 #2
I was stock + root prior to trying the update. Here is hoping this is a fix for the GPS, I will try and report back.
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I'm in the same boat, can anyone verify this if this means the update was done successfully?
So what's the status on those of you who have already applied the leaked JH7 through Cognition or another way? Are you all going back to stock to then get this new update? Is it possible to apply the GPS fixes to my current rom/kernal or should I do Odin and then apply it? It's not that big of a deal to do everything individually (voodoo, black bar, superuser) if I have to without Cognition. I really want the GPS fixed.
I manually moved the date up two days (Sept 24th) on my phone and checked for update. It finally started to download the OTA update. It failed after 50% installation and rebooted by itself. My phone was rooted with lag fix and removed some AT&T software. I'm wondering the reason it failed because it is trying to install QuickOffice and update other AT&T software. But I already moved some of the AT&T software and already installed QuickOffice through Android Market.
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I manually moved the date up two days (Sept 24th) on my phone and checked for update. It finally started to download the OTA update. It failed after 50% installation and rebooted by itself. My phone was rooted with lag fix and removed some AT&T software. I'm wondering the reason it failed because it is trying to install QuickOffice and update other AT&T software. But I already moved some of the AT&T software and already installed QuickOffice through Android Market.
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Mine stopped at 50% too... ugh. Let me know if you find a workaround, and I'll do the same...
krakerx said:
Check your "About Phone" screen. Mine failed as well, but when I checked mine this is what was different:
Baseband version: I897UCJH7
Kernel version: 2.6.29 | [email protected]sep-11 #2
I was stock + root prior to trying the update. Here is hoping this is a fix for the GPS, I will try and report back.
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Same boat as me. I am rooted.. and removed att crapware and did a battery icon change. But no other major changes.
(From my Captivate via XDA app)
Failed first time unrooted. I used Odin to go back to stock,failed again same place,50%
Got the firmware today.. when it loaded it ran the entire progress bar and later said that it failed.. however in the settings it say jh7 and additional attempts to update says no updates available. Also.. after the update the superuser app is still installed and appears that root is still there. Any thoughts?
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trumsey2005 said:
Got the firmware today.. when it loaded it ran the entire progress bar and later said that it failed.. however in the settings it say jh7 and additional attempts to update says no updates available. Also.. after the update the superuser app is still installed and appears that root is still there. Any thoughts?
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I take it back.. after changing clock and checking again the update is available again...
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You have to unroot before you can do a ota upgrade. Rooting is suppose to block ota upgrades because a ota upgrade would remove superuser.
I read somewhere that people have had to flash back to complete original. I've rooted and removed AT&T crapware. Also, being new to the Android platform I need some guidance on how to go back to factory orig. I've heard of odin.. but base on my limited research I haven't seen if it is available to mac. I am familiar with Unix/Linux.. they are my primary OS'.. but messing with a phone OS is just a different animal altogether.
I had to redo the phone but the update never showed up.. So what I did was just flash the update from samfirmware and it is working even though I have to redo everything...
HTH,
Charlie
evil5826 said:
You have to unroot before you can do a ota upgrade. Rooting is suppose to block ota upgrades because a ota upgrade would remove superuser.
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My phone is rooted and I updated without issue.
Well i just tred to update mine this morning, i finally got past the communication errors. The download went fine, but when it was installing it went from 0 to 50% percent in about a second and then said update failed and rebooted.
I'm on the stock JF6 rom, however i used odin to get there.
My Sim card and sd were left in, however my sd is blank
And i don't know what any other info i can post to be helpful
2.1 update
just did the update with one click root loaded.went though with no problems phone is faster with less lag.also i can still use as wi fi hot spot. new Quikoffice,Media hub,Mobile Video and you tube. well this may mean no 2.2?
I also did the ota update with root installed, allowed 3rd apps, with wireless tethering, and it went through fine for me but I still have poor gps, did not seem to do anything for the gps except removed the option to enter lbs test mode. Anyone know how to get to the lbs test mode after update?
Samsung Mini-Kies Updater
If anyone is having troubles with Mini Kies (I had the problem where the application crashed, using Win 7 x64), I'd recommend using the regular Samsung Kies application. I was unable to do the JH7 update even after restoring to complete stock with Odin (50% update failed error). This was easy, and now I am fully in JH7, and so far the GPS lock is much, much faster.