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X1 BAD Qualiy Contorl ~ Coating peel off ~

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The coating around the direction pad was completely peel off. I am very sad since my X1 just used around 2 week.
I will send an email to SE to complain their bad QC and material.

What the hell.. this is ridiculous.
Even cheap dumb phones dont have issues like that.

Wow that really sucks.. i wonder if anyone else has this problem?

**Knock on wood**...didn't happen to mine yet

ooo that's bad...

Isn't that maybe a kind of protective thing that you should peel off or clean?
mine doesnt have that and the material doesnt look like it can peel off

informatico said:
Isn't that maybe a kind of protective thing that you should peel off or clean?
mine doesnt have that and the material doesnt look like it can peel off
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I haven't clean my phone when i bought it and i always put it in the small bag to protect it.
On beside, i always use the optial mouse for checking email.
I think this cosmetic issue is caused by the bad material on the key pad and coating

faint...
i just scared that the black paint would peel off so i specially choose the silver version.
no is the button area.. OMG... SIVLER'S button also black color....

if the user has a tendency to apply lots of pressure then is it an issue with SE quality?
That amount of peeling is wear, caused by the friction/ force of a application of the thumb or finger.
It would take me years to cause that amount of peel despite my enormous hands

My 'SonyEricsson' logo at the top is starting too peel off

yes, the black painting is peel off from the battery cover, where can I order another one? or re-paint it out of the market?

Suspicion
This is all a bit suspicious!
You say you have had this phone for 2 weeks?? Was this some sort of pre-production model? Was it bought in the EU/UK or in Asia?
It seems odd that this hasn't been reported before by hundreds of people who have had the phone longer. I bought mine from a retail store in the UK.
I use mine all day long and can state clearly that no paint, logo or finish is wearing off. I don't even believe there is any kind of lacquer on any part of the button panel. Looks like regular glossy plastic.
Furthermore I think the build quality is excellent.

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This is all a bit suspicious!
You say you have had this phone for 2 weeks?? Was this some sort of pre-production model? Was it bought in the EU/UK or in Asia?
It seems odd that this hasn't been reported before by hundreds of people who have had the phone longer. I bought mine from a retail store in the UK.
I use mine all day long and can state clearly that no paint, logo or finish is wearing off. I don't even believe there is any kind of lacquer on any part of the button panel. Looks like regular glossy plastic.
Furthermore I think the build quality is excellent.
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MY phone is retail mode bought in Hong Kong, I am suspicious on this issue also.
This cosmetic issue is totally unacceptable, i can't believe the coating was peel off around 10days. What the HELL in SE QA & QC.
I bought the X1 when it launch in HK in first day. I hope your phone is another batch without this issue. BTW, this issue was occur after 9days. I hope you got a good batch of X1.

well I will blame the user for that kind of scratch, only you can know honestly how did u care for your phone.

nap007 said:
well I will blame the user for that kind of scratch, only you can know honestly how did u care for your phone.
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It is not scratch, the coating is peel off in a pieces, furthermore my X1 is always put into a small bag to protect, therefore i don't think it is careless to cause this issue.
On beside, I always use the finger to scroll optical joystick for browsing email. I think this cosmetic issue is due to the bad material , design and coating on the key pad. Why don't HTC use the same material as PSP shell, it should print the black color inside the transparent plastic rather than make a coating on a CHEAP black plastic.

The coating is stop peel off unit ............ please take a look on the latest status on the keypad.
BTW, I just send an email to following address to make a complain on this SUCK cosmetic issue.
TO: [email protected]
CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]

i can't believe that!
all x1 have same problem? it's impossible

iolaosx said:
i can't believe that!
all x1 have same problem? it's impossible
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I also surprised when the coating is starting peel off ~ I hope this issue occur in little amount of batch only ~ I will send back my X1 to request a replacement later, i hope this issue will not happened again.

After a month, the paint on my "down arrow" directional button is also peeling off. The phone has been kept in a nice thick pouch since day 1. I have owned my previous phone 1 year with no scratch so the scratch is definitely not due to the way I treat it.

same here, my unit peel off too at the same area

Invisible shield HD2

just finished installing my new invisible shield on my HD2. during the process of installing the it, phone did seem to get a bit wet so im going to follow the advice to let it dry out for out 12 to 24 hours before turning it back on. the process of applying the shield is different compared to ones i have bought before. now a small package with a sponge is included and instead of a squeegee a installation card is used which i feel works much better to take out the small bubbles after. the shield fits just right covering the screen and a little extra beyond that. if anything i will update once i have let it dry out a bit and report back on how the screen reacts to the shield being on it and the screen sensitivity to touch.

What version did you buy? I have the Maximum Protection coming in the mail. I am just wondering what the difference between Full body and Maximum Protection is.

Not so good
Hi all,
I bought the IS full body for HD2 and I'm very disappointed! It's called full body but there are just too many open spots. I had my first IS on my I900, and the full body covered everything except the camera lens, volume and camera keys, and the call keys. The HD2 is covered, but I won't call it full body because the Omnia was better covered. Those who installed it know what I'm talking about, for example on the back of the phone, between the cover and both the upper and lower part, you have some space, on the side, where the volume buttons are, the upper part (when you put the phone with the screen up) is not covered, and the half of the bottom, where the 3.5 jack and usb socket are, is not covered. There are other spots, hard to define, and most of all, when after taking all the bubbles away, some liquid is still there and guess what it will turn into when dry? Yeah, bubbles...

I wanted to ask .. does the full Invisible shield of the HD2 ( screen and the back ) better or the just back only ??
I mean does the Invisible shield of the screen will reduce the sensitive of the touch on the screen ??
please because I want to buy it so which one I buy
just back or the both ??

you can only buy
front - for the display
or
full body kit - for the display and 3 cut pieces for the back
yes, the one for the front will reduce the sensitivity compared to without one.
after the installation it sucks, but getting better each day.
after a few days it is ok, also to use swype for instance, without any problems.
so the full body kit is absolutely great, and i never will use a mobile device without such a nice protection.

I just bought one on ebay
Look at item, 180488642102 (can't post links since I rarely reply on the forum)
Installation was a breeze and much quicker than a zagg and in my opinion a cleaner look. My buddy wanted one, but didn't want to use their screen protector, so I asked if they would just sell the pieces for the housing. They said yes and all you have to do is buy the screen protector, item 170466295030 and put in the order notes that you want the housing pieces only. I would send them a note first.
This should save some $$$ and you could get the housing protector for around $6.

forelli said:
Hi all,
I bought the IS full body for HD2 and I'm very disappointed! It's called full body but there are just too many open spots. I had my first IS on my I900, and the full body covered everything except the camera lens, volume and camera keys, and the call keys. The HD2 is covered, but I won't call it full body because the Omnia was better covered. Those who installed it know what I'm talking about, for example on the back of the phone, between the cover and both the upper and lower part, you have some space, on the side, where the volume buttons are, the upper part (when you put the phone with the screen up) is not covered, and the half of the bottom, where the 3.5 jack and usb socket are, is not covered. There are other spots, hard to define, and most of all, when after taking all the bubbles away, some liquid is still there and guess what it will turn into when dry? Yeah, bubbles...
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I believe that is why they have the New Maximum Protection for the T-mobile HD2. I cant confirm until I receive the one I purchased either Monday or Tuesday. According to the description I thought it said that the maximum protection is supposed to cover virtually everything you would wanna protect and is able to be stretched to cover the extra parts.

I got the phantomskinz the same price as invisible shield, you get 2 of the skins, & comes in matte option!!

spoogedemon said:
you can only buy
front - for the display
or
full body kit - for the display and 3 cut pieces for the back
yes, the one for the front will reduce the sensitivity compared to without one.
after the installation it sucks, but getting better each day.
after a few days it is ok, also to use swype for instance, without any problems.
so the full body kit is absolutely great, and i never will use a mobile device without such a nice protection.
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thank you
so you advise me to buy it better than the normal Protector like in amazon (Premium Crystal Clear LCD Screen Protector for HTC HD2 ) and it is 5 Pack and 5$ ... but the Invisible shield HD2 24$

Go to zagg.com and see the difference between the two.. The invisibleshield material is stuff that they use on helicopter blades. You cannot scratch it... The cheap stuff on ebay will easily be scuffed and eventually tear..

I've seen some reviews on Zagg's stuff and the screen protector is usually too thick and 'grips' your finger as you try to slide on the screen. Don't know if that's still the case but I went with Bodyguardz again since it was decent on my TP2.

don't buy the t-mobile screen protector it takes away from the clarity of the screen and the sensitivity

dtfast1 said:
don't buy the t-mobile screen protector it takes away from the clarity of the screen and the sensitivity
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I bought them when i picked up my HD2 on release day just until i get the invisible shield on it. It does make the phones screen a bit hazy but itll do until the get proper protection.
Meanwhile, I was browsing zagg's website and came across 3 different coverage options for the invisible shield. I'll be ordering the Maximum Protection package after i type this post!!!
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

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Is there somebody who can upload a picture of his HD2 with an Invisible shield on it? Especially the corners.

The HD2 screen is already quite scratch resistant, yes?

well been using the invisble shield on my hd2 for the past day or so and i must say, im not sure if its because of the way i applied it or because it just simply made this way but iv have enjoyed having it on. i dont see absoulutly any hazyness as mentioned before, on my screen. the screen still work great just barely have to touch the screen for it to register my touch. yes u can feel the shield on but, depending on wether u have ur fingers clean or dirty does it make a diffrence when ur using it and how it feels when sliding ur fingers on the screen. also i have noticed i clean the screen less often from dirt and the oil from ur hands, so u get to see less finger smudges on the screen to. also ever since i have the protection on i handle the phone a little more loosely and freely when pulling it out of my pocket. one more thing. for those who have a tmobile hd2 which i do. if u have noticed when u look at the screen mostly during the day in sunlight u can see just barely small dots and lines arranged all over the screen. i can tell they were made to be on the screen because there arranged in a specific order kinda like to register commands and i have noticed that i can just barely see them now with the shield on. makes the screen a lil clearer. i would highly recommended it. this isnt my first device i have applyed the shield on but it certanitly is the device i have been most satisfied with it being on because of its look feel and protection. hope this helps u guys decided on wether to get it or not. also as a last note i only have the screen cover on so i cant comment on the full protection or apparently the new "maximum coverage" shield

kcab87 said:
I bought them when i picked up my HD2 on release day just until i get the invisible shield on it. It does make the phones screen a bit hazy but itll do until the get proper protection.
Meanwhile, I was browsing zagg's website and came across 3 different coverage options for the invisible shield. I'll be ordering the Maximum Protection package after i type this post!!!
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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I ordered my Maximum Protection on Wednesday and I am hoping to get it on Monday or Tuesday (and I paid for 2 day Air), I am going to most likely only apply the body pieces and not use the screen protection itself since the glass is really durable if you look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEaehKWr2s and I love the sensitivity of my screen and I know on my Mom's Pre and now her Droid eris as well as my brothers Droid eris, the screen is far from as sensitive once you apply the invisible shield. I will however stick with the product because I love there protection and how it gives you a tacky feeling that make me feel allot more secure with my phone in hand. I will also be taking some pictures and possible a quick video of the Invisible Shield on my device after it is applied (I am still debating if I want to pay Best Buy $7 to apply it for me lol)

This shield is perfect!
Hi,
My husband and I use the invisible shield from ZAGG. And not the full body, because it isn't really full. We have to protect and to see from the outside whos device it is. Skins from ZAGG... this is great. Easy to stick it on and it stays perfectly on. No sticky edges or something. I post some photos in this reply. The skins from ZAGG are perfect...
And we can separate the devices and won't take the wrong device to our work. (at 7.00a.m.)
The invisibleSHIELD is easy installed, but you need a lot of patience and a soft piece of fabric (don't know the right word! Doekje in dutch )
And keep your fingers wet! (oops! 1 picture of our cats!!! ) The pictures are made by the HTC HD2 (european version)

alvinmathew88 said:
I got the phantomskinz the same price as invisible shield, you get 2 of the skins, & comes in matte option!!
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+1 for phantomskinz...I have been using them for awhile on all of my phones.
I have tried zagg and BSE as well and I think the phantomskinz have the least amount of "orange peel" effect and I have noticed zero reduced sensitivity from having it on there.
If you check around on sites like www.retailmenot.com...you can usually find some good coupon codes to save even more money.
...still trying to figure out why they give you two complete sets...not that im complaining, but I upgrade so often...I have never used the 2nd skin for any of the phones I have
On the package, they recommend dipping the skin in a bowl of warm soapy water to apply...I have always had better results using a small spray bottle with the warm soapy water to spray the skin, and using a small bowl to just dip my fingers in.
As an application tip...I have learned that applying them in the bathroom after someone has taken a shower dramatically reduced the chance of airborn dust settling on the phone while you are applying them...just remember to use warm soapy water, keep your fingers nice and wet, lots of clean paper towels or a lint free cloth, and a spare phone to use while drying.
Also...the edges that you have to fold over can be tricky to get down if the skin is still wet. After you get the large flat areas secured down...use a hair dryer and blow dry the adhesive side of the skin to dry it out a bit. the heat also makes the skin much more flexable and easier to shape to the contours of the phone.
Cheers

I have used the 'full-body' protection Invisible Shield, and must say that I am not very pleased with it. The salesperson asked for about 40% of the price to help me apply it. And I figured I could do a job as well as some aunty, and so I did !
And found myself looking at Not-So-Invisible-Shield. There're 3 specks of dust that wouldn't come out even after I unpeeled it and used the sponge provided to scrub it. ANYWAY, the IS doesn't seem to change the sensitivity of the screen much, but it certainly does increase the friction, so swpye-ing might feel a little odd. But I am overall pleased with the product and protection.

Question About Loose Back Covers

Hello all!
I've been very pleased with my new Nexus so far, but yesterday I noticed the back cover was loose and and had a bit of a gap near the volume buttons. Some quick googling informed me this was a known issue, and is easily RMA'd. I have also discovered there are some very nice skins from Slickwraps and from Toast which can be used in place of the back cover. I find these to be very beautiful, and will most likely use one. Knowing this, is there any useful reason to send my phone in to be replaced? Has anyone discovered a flawed battery causing the cover to lift? If so, was it obvious before removing the cover?

I would be afraid that if I didn't get the phone replaced, it would leak if you ever got around water. I think I would send it back because if you ever decide to sell it you won't get much for a phone that doesn't have a tight fitting backup cover.
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dalegg said:
I would be afraid that if I didn't get the phone replaced, it would leak if you ever got around water. I think I would send it back because if you ever decide to sell it you won't get much for a phone that doesn't have a tight fitting backup cover.
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Those are both good points, but they are somewhat nullified by my plans. I'm going to be removing the back cover to use an aftermarket back. I will, of course, be fully responsible for protecting it from water, and for the damage if I don't. I tend to treat any device, water resistant or not, as if it were the Wicked Witch of the West and will melt upon contact with a drop of water. I also don't sell my old phones. They are way to useful to keep around for projects and such. I still have a couple of Blackberry Storms acting as desk clocks and a Galaxy Nexus doing tattle-tail duty for my home alarm system.
Basically what I'm looking for is any indication as to an actual malfunction being the cause of the back coming unstuck. As it stands, the loose back is a head start on getting it off for an aftermarket.

I say go for it as long as the new back cover fits tight. I am a snob about having a perfect phone.
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Most the skins cover the back cover so need an intact backcover or have the same problem. Will see when remove back cover if it is battery related but then most likely can't RMA as you opened the device. It a catch 22 situation.

prdog1 said:
Most the skins cover the back cover so need an intact backcover or have the same problem. Will see when remove back cover if it is battery related but then most likely can't RMA as you opened the device. It a catch 22 situation.
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I'm looking at the wooden covers. They're a bit thicker then the vinyl skins, and can sit flush with the frame when used without the back. They're rigid enough to do the job, though not advertised as backs, folk are reporting having success.
I am tempted to open it up and have a peek at the battery, but doing so would definitely void the warranty. That's why I was looking for any examples where a battery actually has gone bad. Though, it looks like the battery is pretty simple to replace anyway...

hawkjm73 said:
I'm looking at the wooden covers. They're a bit thicker then the vinyl skins, and can sit flush with the frame when used without the back. They're rigid enough to do the job, though not advertised as backs, folk are reporting having success.
I am tempted to open it up and have a peek at the battery, but doing so would definitely void the warranty. That's why I was looking for any examples where a battery actually has gone bad. Though, it looks like the battery is pretty simple to replace anyway...
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Usually swells up in the middle and starts raising the back at the mid points.

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Usually swells up in the middle and starts raising the back at the mid points.
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Does it feel swollen? Can you tell by eye? The only ones I've witnessed having a dying battery had removable battery covers, like the Storm and the old Razr flip phones. My cover is only loose on one edge, and feels very firmly stuck the rest of the way around. The phone itself is functioning beautifully, not at all like the few I've seen the the grow-a-battery of death. They usually sputtered and gave up until I replaced the battery.

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Does it feel swollen? Can you tell by eye? The only ones I've witnessed having a dying battery had removable battery covers, like the Storm and the old Razr flip phones. My cover is only loose on one edge, and feels very firmly stuck the rest of the way around. The phone itself is functioning beautifully, not at all like the few I've seen the the grow-a-battery of death. They usually sputtered and gave up until I replaced the battery.
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If it's the battery will do the same. Will start acting up and then die. There is a thread somewhere in General I think with pics of expanding battery. Some just the backs come unglued. It is definitely a RMA situation anyway.

An Ongoing Chronical Of The Whitestone Dome

I have read many mixed reviews of this glass screen protector here, on other forums, and on Amazon.
Amazon's the best, IMO, because you're reading product reviews from real everyday normal folks from all different walks, so the compilation of reviews includes the whole range of skill level.
Inarguably, the Whitestone Dome Glass protector is probably THE MOST difficult to install, save the fact that the kit includes an allignment jig that helps installation inmeasurably. I recently did this (this evening) and can't imagine attempting this without such a jig, though I understand similar UV activated glue is available to use with separately sold glass protectors.
So I'll start with some background info to set the scene for accuracy...
I'm a landscaper by day, but a jeweler part time. That means I chunk heavy crap around all day long like a farmer, but on the weekends I show off my dexterity like a watchmaker.
That's important, because this installation requires steady, confident hands, much forethought, patience, and it ain't cheap!
Sooooo...
Let me say that I was really nervous. I already accepted the idea that I might have to decide whether to purchase another one or go a different route and just choke on losing 45 dollars.
I watched 8 YouTube videos on installation, including one completely failed installation, and a demonstration on the removal of one.
The package arrived today but was outside the house in the cold. Of course I wanted to pop it on immediately, but figured that it should warm up to temperature first.
During that time I prepped my table. I used a marble to see if it was level. During preparation, i also prepared myself for the possibility of failure. LOL!
I layed out all of the items like I was about to perform surgery.
CLEAN, CLEAN, CLEAN!
Use those dust removal stickers! Even after you let the glue fall and remove the "bridge", check again for dust.
Don't flail about to much. That simply stirs up dust.
"Relax", is the best advice I can give. Peeling the backing off the glass from underneath it so dust that's in the air doesn't land on the inside surface sounds like a logical idea, and you should, but static from peeling it can become a pain.
If you're calm enough, you can do this just like the videos.
I wiped the edges after the first and second curing with the UV light. I did end up with excess flow out one side, and on the other side during the second wipe down, I had an ever so tiny bubble (if you'd even call it that) on the edge. The bubble was from wiping away the partially curred glue, which pulled a tiny, TINY bit out. (Literally one third the size of the exposed part of the SPen tip.)
I remedied this OCD-killer by using a toothpick dabbed in what remained at the top of the glue tube and simply touched it to the edge, which sucked it right in to fill the tiny void.
I used the UV light several times with the idea that it simply couldn't hurt to do it as often as I could.
My screen literally looks like a perfect install. Absolutely fantastic, as Sakitech would say!
I would say the skill level required for this is about average, but you really have only one chance to get it right, and there are a few steps that need to be followed perfectly or else they can trip you up.
Watch those videos. Many show people doing an imperfect installation with decent or good results, but after watching several you'll see just how to avoid mishaps.
On a different note, I did notice something very strange while utilizing the UV light; there is a weird shape in the center of the screen that shows up under the light. I have no idea what it is, but it shows as a slightly different color in the center third of the screen, nearly full length with rounded corners and perfectly symmetrical. I'm assuming it's an adhesive beneath the screen for the interactive SPen screen? I dunno. Kinda neat.
Anyway, after reading reviews stating problems with lifting of the edges of the Whitestone Dome, I figured I would contribute here by checking in and giving updates as to the longevity of this very beautiful, but slightly expensive and fiddly (to say the least) installing screen protector.
Feel free to ask any questions.

O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.

AddictedToGlass said:
O.K., so not a month, but 3 weeks later:
Bear in mind that I do NOT abuse my phones. I do tend to coddle a nearly $1000 phone.
So far the screen saver has been great. No lifting at the corners like others have experienced.
I have my Note 8 in an Amovo wallet case- Good stuff; check it out on Amazon.
I remain thrilled with my Whitestone screen protector.
I certainly cannot say that I don't notice that it's on there, but it's only the edges that I can see. While I'm immersed in actually using the phone, I notice nothing at all.
I'm now considering getting one for my S8+, which currently sports a cheap edge adhesive glass screen saver that feels like there's room to slide a business card under.
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Same here with mine. Very satisfied. Nearly 3 months now and it's been rock solid for me.

Same here, great bit of kit.

Agreed - I love my Whitestone. It picked up a scratch, and I used the new warranty facility to replace it. It's not exactly cheap (around £20) to get the replacement, but it's better than having to buy one at full price.
This one ended up being a little more fiddly to install, but that was my fault - I allowed the LOCA to flow too far towards the bottom of the device before dropping the glass. I had tiny cluster of bubbles near the power switch which I worked out with some patience, and I also ended up sticking the jig together because I cured it for too long before removing the phone. However, the overall result is better than my original install, and I haven't had the touch up the edges of this one at all.

As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.

jooniloh said:
As much as I want to use the whitestone, I have some pretty big issues with it right now. For one, the glass is unnecessarily big. If the flaps that went up around the top were just a little smaller, it'd be compatible with so many more cases. The other issue is the type of glass their using. I don't know what it is, but it collects oil and gunk REALLY well on the surface of the glass (not the edges). I especially notice it on colder days (which we have plenty of in minnesota), but it's like the oil builds up into a thick layer that I have to wipe off with a cloth. All my whitestones have been like this. I ended up ordering a cheap full adhesive protector from amazon, and even though it has that STUPID black border and doesn't stick at the edges properly, it's sized way better than the whitestone and the glass feels of a much higher quality.
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Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.

sefrcoko said:
Strange, no oil/grease issues like that with mine and it's plenty cold here too (unfortunately!). I haven't even had to wipe often for fingerprints and stuff. Not sure what would be causing that type of problem.
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Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.

StevePritchard said:
Agreed - I would say it has one of the better oleophobic coatings.
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Maybe I've just been getting bad batches? idk.

I've had no problems with mine. Looks and works great! My wife's has started to come up on a corner. It's because she was mishandling it and not realizing what she was doing. All the warnings that we are aware of she is basically unaware of because... I don't know. It's still working for her and doesn't bother her. I don't plan on using another brand when I have to replace hers.

After 3 months the glue went bad on mine and started peeling on a top corner, then it went down both sides over night. Frankly at £40, it needs to last a lot longer for that money.

So;
It's mid August, 6½ months after the installation and it still looks great.
To be fair I have to mention that I do have two phones I use on a daily basis, but the Note is used for many more hours a week as a tablet as compared to my naked S8+, which I really only use to make and take calls.
In other words, the Note sees a lot of touch screen activity.
The Whitestone is holding up much better than I expected, given all the problems I've read about it. I do have a very subtle problem spot on the right side edge right in the middle where it has started to bubble. Though it's really only visible at certain angles, and quite small, my OCD magnifies this visual defect a great deal for me! When I hand over my phone to someone (always reluctantly...LOL) to view a picture or an app, I still get compliments on the screen protector, and no one has ever pointed it out to me. (It is very small.)
IT HAS DONE IT'S JOB...
-At least once, because there's a small scratch in the surface of the glass. Again, another thing hardly noticable, but if it were in the screen itself of my Note, I would be very upset. (Give me 6 more months to get to the point where it's perfectly acceptable for this handheld device to show signs of use.)
A CORNER DID START TO LIFT...
Last month, the upper right hand corner developed a very small bubble. I knew right away from what I've read that this might be the start of the end of this screen's life. But I continually massaged the screen down many times, and it actually worked and resealed.
My take on this is that firstly, it's been ridiculously hot in my region. That might've helped with resealing. But secondly and most importantly, I never allow dust to get near my phone.
Dust is the enemy. A single microfiber particle between the screen and glass cover might've made resealing impossible. People pop their phones in their pocket all the time, and because the phones are dust proof now, it's even easier to take for granted what they are exposed to. As soft and protective as pockets are, they expose phones to a lot of dust. (Look at the lint trap in a clothes dryer!)
IN CONCLUSION...
I'll keep monitoring this thread to answer any questions, but I'll probably only post an update of when the Whitestone finally needs to be replaced. At that point I'll probably throw some photos up before I remove the old one.
As far as I'm concerned it has already exceeded my expectations of longevity, and I'll gladly be getting a replacement when the time comes. But I will continue to try to get the most life out of this one despite the small lift on the edge.
BTW...
The "problem" side of my screen is where it had less of the LOCA bleeding out of the edge during installation. Even though the puddle of adhesive was dead center when I dropped the glass on, when I wiped the excess from the edges, the right side had less run-off. Right now I'm wondering if I wiped the excess off of the edges too soon. During the next installation, I'll be sure to give more time for the glue to stay where it needs to.
COMPARED TO NO SCREEN PROTECTOR...
Well, I never, ever, ever have used any of my smart phones without a screen protector. But I finally grew weary of the cheap crappy edge-adhesive glass protector I had on my S8+, and threw it out! The screen would often not register touches, etc, and was an under-screen dust catcher. I havn't bought a Whitestone for it yet because I spend so little time using it that I keep forgetting. So for about 4 months, I've been using my S8+ with no protection save a case that does have a screen flap (like a wallet).
I have a small rub mark on the screen, hardly noticable, but it's there.
If and when I purchase a Whitestone for that phone, I'll post here as to whether or not the LOCA actually hides that mark, as I've read in other threads that it can hide existing scratches presumably because it fills them in (makes sense).
A FINAL PLUG FOR THE NOTE 8...
I doubt the NOTE 10/X will wow me enough to drop my 8 like a wet sock and bolt to the store. I do figure that it'll be feature-packed since the advances of the 9 weren't anything crazy special. But I'm far from tired of this phone and given what I paid for it, I expect I'll have it long enough to have to perform the inevitable battery replacement surgery before I finally upgrade.
I believe the Whitestone protection will help me stay that course. :good:

Question Whitestone Dome - UV light more or less?

Installed the Whitestone dome and it came out perfect.
Just wondering if it makes any difference to use the curing light more than recommended?
Will too much UV light damage the adhesive or glass?
I've already done a few extra minutes.

Just don't look at it...

blackhawk said:
Just don't look at it...
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I don't understand?

It's fine.
Short wavelength UV can damage your eyes... never look at it. Including the light reflected of objects illuminated by it.
Welder's flash is painful... think sand in your eyes.

The extra uv light will do nothing to the adhesive. The recommended ammount of uv blue light by White Stone is more then enough to make a great fit.

bartjeh1991 said:
The extra uv light will do nothing to the adhesive. The recommended ammount of uv blue light by White Stone is more then enough to make a great fit.
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Their switches are cheap so sometimes the diode flickers. Overkill may be the best solution.
I'm not impressed with Whitestone at all. Their customer support is terrible and it's all off shore shipped and "supported". No phone support and rude, slow email support.
A wretched company to deal with, one of the worst.
Been there, done that... to hell with Whitestone.

Does the adhesive become stronger with more exposure time?
Super strong adhesive can be a problem in the future when you try to remove an old tempered glass screen protector.
I've heard horror stories where people have trouble with trying to chisel away at the old adhesive and glass mess. I wonder if their problem was over-curing the adhesive by using the light too long?
I went by the book for exposure curing time, and it was very easy to remove the cracked screen protector - even with a crack in it, I could still easily peel it off because the adhesive was willing to let go.
However, I've never tested this. But it just seems like the time limits are provided for a reason, and are not given in terms of "at least" but rather "for this long".

When it's cured it's cured. The polymerization is done. Under curing however would be an issue.
UV does degrade many materials over time but this isn't near a strong enough source and a few extra minutes is insignificant.
As the polymer adhesive ages it may degrade making removal more difficult than when it was first applied.
Personally I don't like this protector at all. It's a pain from start to finish including removal at times. My stupid cheap easy wet apply urethane screen protector has been on for over 9 months. It's kept the screen from being marred.
It's can be easily removed and is much easier to apply. Only $5 a pop. I still have 3 left because I never thought they be so easy to apply (expected to destroy one) and that even if the application went well it would only last 2 or months. Not.

I have the Whitestone Dome Glass on my s21U and got a chip on it yesterday and tried to take it off. It was a horror show and a large part of it stuck to the middle of the screen. I thought my phone was ruined. I had to take a hot hairdryer which softened the glue and slowly pick bits of it off. This is the first time I've ever had this happen after using many different UV protector on different phones! I did put a new one on but when I take this one off I'll be much more cautious to use a hairdryer and try and remove it all in one piece .

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I have the Whitestone Dome Glass on my s21U and got a chip on it yesterday and tried to take it off. It was a horror show and a large part of it stuck to the middle of the screen. I thought my phone was ruined. I had to take a hot hairdryer which softened the glue and slowly pick bits of it off. This is the first time I've ever had this happen after using many different UV protector on different phones! I did put a new one on but when I take this one off I'll be much more cautious to use a hairdryer and try and remove it all in one piece .
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That's nasty.
How long was it on?
99% Isopropyl alcohol be worth a shot but probably be ineffective.
Be real careful when using heat guns. I've used them a lot for electronic assembly and things can heat up quick, too quick.
The display is literally tens of thousands of heat sensitive semiconductors.
My solution is to use a case with slightly raised guards around the whole display. The Zizo Bolt has protected my 10+ very well. The Gorilla IQ Sheild has done the rest to protect the screen. The screen is fairly robust but needs protection from scratches. Urethane does a surprisingly good job at this. It's self healing to a certain extent so it actually looks better after a night's rest in areas of high usage ie the keyboard. Rather strange to observe.

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That's nasty.
How long was it on?
99% Isopropyl alcohol be worth a shot but probably be ineffective.
Be real careful when using heat guns. I've used them a lot for electronic assembly and things can heat up quick, too quick.
The display is literally tens of thousands of heat sensitive semiconductors.
My solution is to use a case with slightly raised guards around the whole display. The Zizo Bolt has protected my 10+ very well. The Gorilla IQ Sheild has done the rest to protect the screen. The screen is fairly robust but needs protection from scratches. Urethane does a surprisingly good job at this.
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It was only on for 3 weeks. I maybe didn't remove it properly as I just tried to lift it off rather than put some card or something under it and prise it off but as I said, I've never had any problems like that before with UV glue protectors, they always usually easily come off.

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It was only on for 3 weeks. I maybe didn't remove it properly as I just tried to lift it off rather than put some card or something under it and prise it off but as I said, I've never had any problems like that before with UV glue protectors, they always usually easily come off.
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The damage may have scored it leaving a weak spot.
Glass is a very strange substance; neither a true solid nor liquid. An amorphous solid.
It can behave in seemingly unpredictable ways. The Pascal's law applies to it. Glazer's can use this to their advantage to cut glass.