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Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
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I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
Hey there,
since I'm new to the community I hope I'm not doing it wrong
I will receive my new Herald within the next days and now I'm seeking for all the stuff I will need then.
1. Hard-Spl. I don't get it. What is it? Is it some kind of firmware update or whatever? The ROM's thread says that I would need SPL 4 or later to successfully finish the Update but I can't find that SPL application in version 4+ :/
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437385 - http://www.evolvers.net/Herald_Roms/Version 7.7/ => I'd like to use that ROM. But I'm not too sure whether to use Manilla2D or Omnia.
3. What if I needed to send my device back for warranty reasons. Is there some way to flash back the standard Win Mobile 5.0?
I hope I will get your attention!
Regards,
Chris
Hey there,
A friend of mine just told me about flashing ROMs literally a few days ago. I did my first successful flash just yesterday and I am very happy that I did. FYI, yes I am using a stock TMobile Wing from 2007.
Rom's are not interchangeable across different phone models as far as I know. So you need to get ROMs made for the wing a.k.a. the Herald. Any Rom for the Herald should work.
Just remember one thing that I forgot to do, make sure that you back up your data. I forgot to do this and lost all of my data. Luckily, I did not have any pictures or music that I was too sad to lose. However, I did lose my contacts. Again luckily, I had an old Sim card from last year that had my contacts on it, so I was able to get back 90% of my phonebook, except for a few people that changed numbers or new contacts. So be sure to save anything you want to keep somewhere else.
I am pretty technically savvy, but I must say that flashing the Rom did take me several hours. The process itself only takes about 10 minutes, but it took hours to figure out what type of Rom I needed and how to exactly flash it. You will see many people trying to tell you that you need to know your IPL and SPL version, and there is no way to know this until you start flashing! It wasn't until I did my first accidental flash that it showed me this information, and this ended up being my first successful flash. After trying for several hours the night before and not succeeding, I guess that's why it slipped my mind that flashing successfully would erase all my data.
The one that actually worked for me was the Canonyang Rom. In the link below please look at post number 216, and you will see a link to download the ROM that worked for me. The file is "HardSpl_WM6".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332413&page=22
I tried to flash directly to open touch, and no matter what I tried it was not successful. When I accidentally tried this Canonyang flash it worked successfully the first time, and after that now I was able to flash to any other Rom.
I am currently running open touch light version 6.5 because I read in another thread that it's supposed to be the fastest. I don't need a lot of features so I'm happy with what it has, and it is much, much faster than the stock T-Mobile Rom.
Since you are now getting it, yes, warranty is an issue for you. I am very new to all this, but from what I gather, once you flash, it does void the warranty. Perhaps someone else can answer if there is a stock TMobile rom, that you can flash back to. However, since the roms are digitally signed, I'm not sure that by even doing that, if TMobile can tell you modded it, and therefore elect not to honor your warranty. I guess that's a risk you have to decide if it's worth it or not. IMHO, I found out about rom flashing this week, and my warranty was up last month. However, if I had found out about this during my warranty period, I would have still done it. The Tmobile stock rom is sooo slow, compared to these roms. If you've never used these roms, you'd think like hey, it's got some bugs, but it's not that bad. But if you've used them, you're never going back to stock rom again.
I apologize if there are any typos, as I am using voice to text recognition software that I am testing. I thought I'd help you out by writing this as well as I test it. Good luck and let us know if you have any questions, we're all here to help.
Hey,
thanks for all the information. Was very helpful. I decided to you the ROM from that link. Should work, shouldn't it?
The only thing I don't get is how to get to SPL4+ :/ I heared of different methods of SPLing. Like Hard SPL and USPL. Can you bring light into that cave?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Your link goes to the Open Touch thread. The link I'm referring to, is this one:
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
As I said, I was NOT able to flash directly from stock to OTP. I tried many methods, and Canonyang was the only one that worked for me. After I successfully flashed to CY, then I was able to flash to OTP without issue. But in theory yes, any Herald rom's should work fine.
In regards to IPL/SPL, my wing is from September 2007, and I had IPL/SPL both above 4. I had NO WAY to verify this before flashing. When I initiated the flash for CY, and the wing rebooted, it was THEN I saw my IPL/SPL versions. I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
Actually as I write this to you, I remember a critical step I forgot to tell you. You need to Application Unlock your device as well. This is probably what I was missing in my failed attempts. After I did that, then the CY flash worked. I got that information, from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356295
So I would suggest following the steps there first, then trying the link earlier to flash to CY, then flash to anything else. This is the procedure that worked for me. Good luck!
Hey there and thanks again for that bunch of information
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I'm sure yours will be at least v4.
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What does that mean then? I do not have to HardSPL my phone? But still, would you mind telling my step by step (And I really mean step by step^^) how to HardSPL a device? I really do not want to brick my phone directly at the beginning.
Oh and what should I rather be using, SoftSPL or HardSPL?
Cheers.
Hey there,
Sorry but I just flashed my device less than a week ago as I mentioned. I don't have many of the answers you ask, because I'm asking them myself. I don't know the diff between Hard vs. Soft SPL.
The file I linked you to earlier, is a hardspl, as denoted by its filename "HardSpl_WM6". It hardspl flashes to the canonyang rom. It was then I saw the IPL/SPL versions, and then was able to flash to other roms.
FYI, I was concerned about bricking my device as well. But during the roughly 5 hours I was trying to flash it correctly, every time the flash failed, it did NOT brick. It just errored on the pc, and the Wing itself just restarted and went back to the stock TMobile rom. It never actually bricked. Make sure you do the application unlock though; I think that's a step that people may not do and could cause it to brick. Good luck.
Hi all,
Excuse me if apparentely it's can seems I repeat old and answred question, but sincerely I have not yet sufficentely clear ideas on how I can flash my blackstone with an updated Rom.
I want remark that I have a decent knowledge on developing a program for W.M., but I confess that after read various threads and articles about, I remained in a great confusion yet!
The question:
I have a branded (Tim) Blackstone:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.13.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (Led) v6
Device Info:
ROM Version 1.13.401.0 (20428)ITA
ROM Date 10/25/08
Radio Version 1.09.25.14
Protocol Version: 52.49a.25.26W
This device ABSOLUTELY need to be upgraded to the Rom 1.56 (but first of all I WANT TO UNBRAND it).
After an initial problem (caused by the unricognized S/N), I dowloaded (using another S/N) from Htc the File:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ITA_1.56.408.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe
To upgrade my device, I want to preserve only the country and the language, because I read that it is necessary to preserve the A-Gps funtionalities (data changes country by coutry). Is it thrue?
I understood that I can't use it, cause the Tim brand of my device.
In my case only the brand is not matching, while the language and country are apparentely matching.
(But, why the "401" of my device is not matching with the "408" of file I downloaded? Can I use the file with this unmatching country code?)
1) - I have a great confusion on SPL, HSPL, SSPL, USPL.
2) - I have a great confusion because I not understood if Radio Rom upgrade and Rom upgrade are 2 different processes or not.
3) - Is the Rom version related (developed) for a specific Hardware version (as it is logical to think)?
4) - Is the Radio rom "country sensitive"? (As I think that each country have a different GSM Net).
5) - If want upgrade both radio and rom, what instrument exactely I need?
Please can you clear my ideas.... and doubts?
Thanks
Ignazio
Ok, you have managed to get an official HTC rom, you can also find some more here
If you use HSPL or USPL, this will allow you to flash the new rom. If you are intending on staying on the official rom, uspl will probably be the best option for you to use.
In response to your questions:
1) SPL - Second Program Loader is a boot loader after IPL (Initial Program Loader) often seen on smart phones and PDA's. SPL is similar to a BIOS in a computer and can be flashed and updated.
The difference between USPL and HSPL:
* HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
* USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
* SSPL is just another method of getting to change the spl and is only really needed if you experience problems using one of the other methods.
Hopefully this makes it a little clearer for you.
2) It depends. The radio is in most cases included in the rom. The rom you are looking to use included a radio. This is shown by the 1.13.25.24 in the name of your rom, so if you install that rom it will also update the radio in a single process. You can however also only upgrade the radio and then it is done as a separate process and will not affect the rom.
3) All the roms are initially developed for a particular hardware configuration I would imagine, but there are many fantastic chefs here on xda who take roms meant for other devices and are able to port some of the components to a cooked rom which can then be used on a number of different devices.
4) Yes, radios are country and area sensitive, so what works well for one person in a particular area would possibly not work as well for you.
5) You will need to use either hspl or uspl in order to upgrade your radio (if you are using one intended for an HTC). Some people have taken radios from other devices such as the Omnia, but in order to flash these radios you need to do a security unlock of your device and there are special tools that allow you to do this, but this is really only a last resort if you can't find an HTC radio that works for you.
The steps to follow in order to flash are described in the Dummies Guide to Flashing (see link in my signature) and if you have any further questions, please ask them in that thread.
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
hurricane3000 said:
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
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Pleasure, so what are the remaining 30%?
Rom Problems..
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
thekingro said:
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
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Read the Dummies Guide (link in my signature). If you have any more queries please post them in that thread as this one is likely to be closed down soon.
ROMS are a personal thing, so have a look at a few and read some of the more popular threads (ie the ones that keep popping to the top) and depending on the feedback received from users make a choice. Once you've flashed once it becomes addictive and you'll try a few before you find one that suits you.
another thing
after i follow all the steps from there all roms should work..after that finnishing them i start that rom update launcher that comes with every rom?
Continuing on Dummies Guide thread.......
As above, continue on dummies guide
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Hi,
My experience today is the motive of me writing this guide to help most of you out of this problem and eliminate the Fear that you will have of you blackstone might gone bad (hardware fault).
ok,
here is what happend to me today.
I had XannyTech Rom flashed on my phone and i really felt i found something interesting about another ROM so i decided to flash that one.
after a smooth flashing, the phone booted and i started syncing using myphone.
left the phone on the desk for a while, came back and found that the device is not responding to the power button, poked that red button and the phone get's stuck at the "smart mobility" screen!!
Hard resetted the phone and started over, again the phone hanged.
i thought that it's maybe a bad flash! so i downloaded the file again and flashed again.
still the same!!!!
decided to go to the old ROM ,
still after a while i get the same result!
notice that i hard resetted after each and every flash!
so what did i do?
[Guide]
Hard Reset the phone, check if it's a software you installed or if it happens even on a pure ROM.
If the problem still exist, Confirm it's not a bad flash! flash again the same ROM.
If you still have the same symtoms, go to HTC website and download the latest OFFICIAL ROM from there.
Run the RUU from your pc (Don't worry about HSPL, it's protected so you will NOT have to HSPL your device again, Thanks olinex)
Test your phone with the new official ROM (in my case -blackstone- it's a 6.1 rom ). Mostly everything will be back to normal.
flash the rom of your choice.
I don't have a real explaination about this (maybe someone with more experience can do) but it works! and even the ROM works faster .
Hope you find this usefull.
Regards,
Adel
I will remember this if it happens to me!
Thank you!
For me, with the HSPL, when I went back to original rom, I had a big problem with color. I flashed to old SPL too, and so, color where good after
Wiki
Not a huge problem, it's well documented
Understanding 1.56 Roms (Greenscreen issue & Flashing)
edit : oops, the link is accessable from the wiki
re the topic:
Looks like Viagra cant fix this issue then
anaadoul said:
Not a huge problem, it's well documented
Understanding 1.56 Roms (Greenscreen issue & Flashing)
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Hi
You should fix your link and put wiki instead if forum
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Hi
You should fix your link and put wiki instead if forum
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it is good to see that you have followed the link
anaadoul said:
I don't have a real explaination about this (maybe someone with more experience can do) but it works! and even the ROM works faster .
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Well, I am not sure, but it seems that Official ROMs not only flash your phone, but also "format" it.
You may want to have a look at this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290) for more references, but the fact is that "flashing" means issuing some commands to the phone. These commands are all about uploading the ROM data in the appropriate section of the NVRAM/EEPROM (I am not an expert, but I think I am more or less near to reality with such a description).
In the Official ROM's case, more commands are issued and some of these commands "clean" completely your phone, making route for a clean installation and a good one.
I don't know (I am not a cooker, nor an expert) why cookers can't or won't issue those commands in their ROMs, but soon after flashing an official one, you have a "clean" phone that is not affected by random behaviour, due properly to the commands that only official one's issues during the flash.
Hope this may help
Regards
Ehol
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Well, I am not sure, but it seems that Official ROMs not only flash your phone, but also "format" it.
You may want to have a look at this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540290) for more references, but the fact is that "flashing" means issuing some commands to the phone. These commands are all about uploading the ROM data in the appropriate section of the NVRAM/EEPROM (I am not an expert, but I think I am more or less near to reality with such a description).
In the Official ROM's case, more commands are issued and some of these commands "clean" completely your phone, making route for a clean installation and a good one.
I don't know (I am not a cooker, nor an expert) why cookers can't or won't issue those commands in their ROMs, but soon after flashing an official one, you have a "clean" phone that is not affected by random behaviour, due properly to the commands that only official one's issues during the flash.
Hope this may help
Regards
Ehol
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Good explaination!
also while i was extracting a shiped ROM i got an unknown nb file which might be responsible for this?
what you have said means that as long as you are flashing a larger sized ROM you should have no problem, but once the new ROM have a smaller size then you will face some issues?!
oh, one more thing.
after formating the phone with the stock ROM, i noticed that it runs much faster (around 15% performance increase) can anyone try flashing shipped ROM then the same one he was using and confirm this?
Hey my question is the following.
Seeing as the Interop Unlock doesn't work for any HTC devices older than version 7720 I'm gonna try the following:
Restore a 7720 backup onto the phone, hard reset it and entirely start over.
Thing is, I dont own a 7720 backup anymore and I really dont wanna try flashing myself.
Question: Can anyone upload his/her 7720 backup from a European HTC HD7 (I'm Belgian btw) so that I can try this proces and hopefully get the interop unlock done this way without flashing?
I wanna start all over for the reason that my phone is draining my battery faster than a $20 hooker when the Navy ships come into port.
[edit]: If I hard reset now it will show up as a Mango phone with 8107 standard on it, which is NOT entitled to be Interop Unlocked, till Heathcliff comes up with something awesome!
[edit2]: In case you still have your 7720 backup available from Zune backup at this moment, you can find it under
"C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update", its the file that looks like "f3874e8d - c6f37f88 - c1504a27 - f0452346" that I need
[edit3]: I did read that backups are phone specific but it wouldnt hurt to give it a shot as I really dont want to flash
Any help / link to the backup is highly appreciated!
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
sh4d0w86 said:
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
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Well was worth a shot, what I had in mind that if i used that backup, I would have the stuff aka device of said person. Then hard reset and my system would be wiped clean, starting up with 7720.
01) I might try a different radio but I after searching a bit I found a few posts saying that the radio wont do much for the battery, well maybe a bit but not noteworthy.
02) I did try a reset, it starts up with 8107 then, and the battery IS fixed then... problem is, you cant interop unlock anything above 7720, which I kinda really need
03) I've read some tutorials about flashing a custom rom, and they all say to revert back to NoDo before even attempting it... thing is, I cant find any NoDo European rom (the links are dead). And even if I manage to find one (found just the one) its a branded one, while my phone is an unbranded phone.
Also that guide said in the comments that an unbranded phone is only flashable to NoDo with the goldcard method, which I'm not fond of using frankly.
So I guess I just have to wait till Heathcliff comes up with a way to interop unlock v2 mango devices
Thanks for your reply though!
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
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01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
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01) Ah ok, I might try the radio thing then, only difficulty is that there are so many and no real threads saying which one could be more beneficial than which. (I know much of this is based on the personal device instead of the OS)
Especially I just read that it wont touch the OS, which I initially thought it did in some way.
03) however I did see the tutorial and im inclined to try that as well. The only issue is that I would like to use the 7.5 shipped ROM if any but that leaves me with 3 questions.
--> I see the HTC HD7 non shipped ROMS section, seeing as I'm from Europe there is only one (the european one) non shipped ROM under Mango, are you certain that that is the one I need? aka does that work on my HTC HD7 for sure?
--> Which is the version of that Mango, is that the 7720 I asked in my original thread or is that an updated version, like 7740 or so? (seeing as it says "Test ROM")
--> Or would you recommend using the "Windows Phone 7 Unbranded ROMs (NoDo)" and if so, there are 2 European ones, seeing as I'm a total noob on that, which one belongs to my phone and why? (cause 1 says ROM 3.03 and the other 1.70 which is a huge difference but no clue in what.. :$)
Thanks in advance, the answers gotten have been very helpful so far!
[edit] The ROM I just asked these 2 questions about.. I'm sorry to say this but I can't download it for the simple reason that apparantly the download button wants to go to MegaUpload but that site has been thrown offline by the FBI as you propably know.
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
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01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
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For the wiki link, I've found that and I will try this unless the ROM works, seems like a more permanent solution. Its propably some app using battery without me knowing so just wanted to perform a hard reset, which is impossible without my 7720 backup (for interop reasons)
What I didnt really get out of that topic and related ones refered to in that topic is if I pick a radio above the one I now have (the mango with tethering) for say a 5.51...radio from preNoDo, will I lose anything special, like the tethering itself or is that just a "title name"?
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But I have an unbranded phone, wont it be bad to put a branded ROM on there or will that mather be erased when I hard reset after putting the ROM on?
Or am I missing the whole point of Branded ROM here, I thought that had to do with things as if you were a AT&T user or Tmobile user or summit cause I am neither of the above. As I said, first time.
It's just that on some threads for custom HD7 roms I've read that if you have an unbranded phone and want to downgrade: "forget it". Which is exactly what I have imo.
Firmware revision number: 2250.21.51004.401
Bootloader version: 5.10.2250.0 (132968)
[edit] I am that far (I know it's yet to begin ofc) that i've finally started the download of "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a..." file (the only European file under Mango, 7720, the one above Ethernet Sharing)
01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
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01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
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Ok, that does make sense. Way more than the information I read on several other topics, wherefor thank you kindly!
I shall take note of the 06's method to downgrade my bootloader.
That leaves me with 2 small questions, there's a little section called "if RSPL'd and HSPL is desired". I have no clue what that is, should I just follow the steps and do as it says anyways or is that optional (refering to "if desired")?
And secondly, "38. download ROM of choice. Shipped ROMs are available, here."
I am downloading "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.exe" which should be the correct 7720 ROM for my phone (hopefully?). By "ROM of choice", does that mean I can put Deepshining or NextGen+ on there as well or isnt that an option for my Unbranded HD7? (like they both warn for in their install tutorials)
Now that I think of it my phone is like you said Branded to Europe, which means they warn for "unbranded ROMs" like the one in your siggy's third link amirite?
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But that aside, I thank you very much for the help, it's highly appreciated, now lets hope my HD7 wont brick on me and I'll be a happy man *moves mouse to the "Thank" button*
01. RSPL is a temporary SPL, which reverts back to OSPL after reset. HSPL is a permanent SPL, which replaces OSPL. so, if you don't want to go through the hassle of RSPL'ing every time you want to flash a Custom ROM... i suggest HSPL'ing.
02. with XSPL, one can flash any Schubert ROM, including Custom ROMs, yes.
03. unsure what you are asking, sorry.
Basically what I was asking if flashing the Mango 7720 shipped ROM works, if I could use this method (seeing as the tutorial says "Rom of choice") to Flash NextGen+ instead?
Cause in that tutorial (could be the one from Deepshining too) there's a line that says if you have an unbranded ROM dont even try to downgrade the bootloader cause that'll brick the phone.
But from the info you just gave me I can make up that my phone's ROM is not unbranded but Branded to Europe or am I that far off?
(meaning that I can in fact downgrade the Bootloader and Flash a custommade ROM instead)
[edit] being this kind of a noob and all I kinda got what HSPL and RSPL does, but what is XSPL? You've mentioned it in a previous post in HD7 General but cant seem to find any down-to-earth info. Its not in the tutorial either, unless XSPL just means Bootloader 3.xx or 2.xx, then I got it
So if i want Deepshining (aka custom ROM) I need to do XSPL instead of RSPL or HSPL? (XSPL, for custom Roms, I assume... means I need step 19 instead of 06 or run through everything from bootloader 5 -> 4 -> 3 to get to step 19 aka XSPL)
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Summing up, if I want the 7720 mango I do step 06 and continue at 30.
If I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do step 06 -> 09 and from then on every step till the bottom? If that's correct I got the picture
(Thanks for the effort here btw)
XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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Well now you see how much of a student I still am, but yes I think I got it
Refering to your tutorial, I see 2 scenarios
* I want the 7720 mango I do to step 06 and continue at 30.
* I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do to step 06, then continue with 09 and from then on every step till the bottom?
If that's correct I got the picture and my questions are answered entirely
hmm, well, i haven't ever actually tried ansar's SLSPL before... so, i can't tell you what exactly to do after using it. maybe report back here after installing SLSPL, then i can guide you where to go from there?
Ok I will, I'll start right now and see where that brings me, starting off with step 01, downloading Task 29 and 00. Then the SLSPL.
Lets hope for a nonbrick
Ok, I now have
Os version: 7.10.7720.68
Bootloader version 4.5.2250.0
I assume I continue with step 09. in your tutorial if I want Deepshining ROM or stop if I'm happy to interop unlock my phone now and update to 8107 through Zune?
yep, continue to Step 09 on the XSPL Tutorial.
Okiedo, next step
Downloaded "Schubert_Europe_1.54.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.29_22.32.50.10U"
Did steps till 18.
Bootloader: 1.54.2250.0
[edit] nevermind what I wrote here, continueing with step 30 seeing as you suggested HSPL instead of RSPL seeing as I read that RSPL voids waranty or summit.
What is the difference "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG1_INSTALL" & "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG2_INSTALL". I know its Gen 1 & 2, but which one do I have and how do I check or is it just NoDo = G1 and Mango = G2, in that case I have to launch G2?
two rar files..? if referring to XSPL, only need FG2 aka the latest version.
There we go, HSPL3.1.2250.0
CotullaHSPL 0x07
So now I have the downloaded and extracted Deepshining ROM, I have "RUU_signed.nbh"
I run Task 29 or the ROMupdateUtlity.exe (inside the ROM) and that should be the end?
[edit] every time Deepshining comes up with a new rom or I want any ROM installed I have to go through all these steps again right? Or can I just flash another ROM on there as I desire, aka an updated version of Deepshining for example?