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Kaiser as storage device

Hello all,
I have a problem: When I connect my Kaiser with a USB cable to a foreign computer it always wants to install drivers for my device, which, especially when i don't have administrative privilegs (school) renders my PDA useless.
So:
Is there a way (program/software?) to make the Kaiser look just like a USB stick for a PC? Just so that you can copy files?

WM5Storage
Google WM5Storage. Also works for WM6 and is fantastic. If activated your device is recognized as generic mass storage device.

BenOggo said:
Google WM5Storage. Also works for WM6 and is fantastic. If activated your device is recognized as generic mass storage device.
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Is WM5torage working out of the box, or does it still need the workaround with Softick Card Export?

wow, extremely fast reply, will check it out, thanks a LOT

however...I believe it is USB 1.1, not 2.0

Lg Ks20 Usb Otg?

With this whole driver controversy and HTC not paying for Qualcomm drivers, I was wondering if USB OTG was left out on the Kaiser but not on the KS20. Can any KS20 owner please check if USB OTG works on
the KS20. I really miss not having the ability to directly transfer files from my flash drive to the phone.
Thanks
P.S. Checking the KS20 rom dump, there is a file named msm7200otg.dll that is NOT on the Kaiser. This could get interesting.

Bump: Am I the only one who cares about this?

maybe nobody has a ks20, im interested too in this, but im not a ks20 owner so i cant help...

Unlike graphics, I believe USB OTG would require different hardware to work. The Kaiser would have to have the hardware necessary to supply a certain amount of power to the USB port, as well as the ability to be a USB host. I would not get your hopes up.

AFAIK the port isnt capable of USB hosting. So its a no go.

I know, thet you can use KS20 like USB-Stick.
But i dont think it have one USB-Host.
If you want, you can find KS20 Service Manuals (was here some were) and look there, if it is possible with this hardware.

VidMan said:
With this whole driver controversy and HTC not paying for Qualcomm drivers, I was wondering if USB OTG was left out on the Kaiser but not on the KS20. Can any KS20 owner please check if USB OTG works on
the KS20. I really miss not having the ability to directly transfer files from my flash drive to the phone.
Thanks
P.S. Checking the KS20 rom dump, there is a file named msm7200otg.dll that is NOT on the Kaiser. This could get interesting.
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msm7200otg.dll ?
that sounds promising

The plot thickens...
Well, I just got hold of a KS20 service manual and I found some relevant information about the USB functions of the KS20.
Interpret these as you want:
Page 28 of the service manual: USB-OTG transceiver for full-speed (12 Mb/s) and low-speed (1.5 Mb/s) interfacing of the MSM device to
computers as a USB peripheral, or connecting the MSM device to other peripherals
-I wonder what other peripherals are?
Page 35: USB OTG core supports both slave and limited host functionality.
-I believe here's our answer!
Ok, so at least we now know that USB OTG can be implemented. However, I have absolutely no idea how, or if, we can get this to work on the Kaiser.
Some food for thought.

I have the LG KS20 for 3 weeks now and am happy so far with all its functions working flawlessly. As usual with Windwos Mobile it needs Softresets from time to time. Annoying is the fact that it doesn`t show the SDmicro card or its content unless you perform a soft reset - every time !?
USB HOST function:
it is possible to use the LG KS20 in that way ONLY: it will allow you just to exchange data with/from the inserted SDmicro card in the phone - nothing else !
So definetely no full USB Host support here.
THX
ombuddy

Reading USB Drives

I havent got a diamond yet, (on its way),
Just wondering if any one has tried to plug in a usb thumb drive into the usb port of the Diamond, and see if it detects it in the diamond as a drive.
This could be a good hack for someone to try if it doesnt detect it, as it could add extra storage.
Keep up the good work everyone
Joe

snap156 said:
I havent got a diamond yet, (on its way),
Just wondering if any one has tried to plug in a usb thumb drive into the usb port of the Diamond, and see if it detects it in the diamond as a drive.
This could be a good hack for someone to try if it doesnt detect it, as it could add extra storage.
Keep up the good work everyone
Joe
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This will not work as the Diamond has no USB host interface!

The only device which I know of which has a USB host is Xda Flame.

thanks for the reply, actually i was thinking of the flame before i looked at the diamond, i guess theres no comparison...

its a cool idea... wouldn't mind seeing it on a device someday

Connect USB Stick

Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?

Diamond has no USB Host, so no

It would look ridiculous anyway. The Diamond is so small you can afford to carry that AND an Archos anyway. That is what I will do.

Ingvarr said:
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I guess because the hardware doesn't support it??
I had this feature on my Flame, was cool but I didn't use it much. You could even connect KB/mouse!

Ingvarr said:
Diamond has no USB Host, so no
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I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
regards

eurofan said:
Would it be possible to connect a USB stick to the Diamond by using this adapter ?
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Where did you find this USB Stick ?
I am searching for that to use with the Diamond and try it

Here you are:
Intos-USB-Adapter-Adapter-USB-Buchse
cable version
regards

demacus said:
I think so too, but as you can see in service manual, htc connects an memory card reader through an Y-USB cradle to read the service-test sd card.
Doesn't that mean that there must be a way to host a device?
(The second one is an ac-adaptor.)
regards
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yeah it looks like it works on the picture.
would be nice to be able to add usbstick to our Diamond, for backup and easy install

where did the pic come from? does the diamond recognize the flash drive?

The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...

demacus said:
The picture is from the HTC service manual - it shows how to attach the service test sd card to the device.
I think it should recognize the drive, otherwise they couldn't test the device...
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Where can we download it?

xda-dev wiki... like all the other manuals too.

Ok, I must be mistaken here then. Diamond have USB host, at least hardware support for it (unless they have some crossover MC inside this "Y-cable").
Hovewer it seems that it have only limited support in bootloader to load ROM image from memory stick.
Question is if it have the host driver in the Windows Mobile to actually support USB accesses inside WM?

Even soldered myself an y-wire for testing.
Inside Windows Mobile nothing happens when the stick is plugged in. (used an 8GB USB-Stick)
Diamond research section is not so far in the moment, so I don't know how to test if it will work in bootloader mode.
I think they have some electronics switched between device and disk, for access without driver.
edit: removed stupid thoughts, now simple using cat command...
regards

Hi
Is there any progress on this? Do you think we may have usb host for the Diamond at some point in the future?

So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards

demacus said:
So, let's push this thread.
I tried to connect an 8GB USB stick throught my self-soldered wire, I've put Diamond into "USB trigger mode" but without any success.
Now we have to figure out which devices can be connected in USB-mode...
I got a few exams in this week, so I'm gonna try at weekend to connect an simple sd card reader.
regards
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i think you should try a smaller stick...
as i remember there were problems in "window mobiling" with external drives (SD cards..) larger than 1GB

any luck with , would be tops

any progress?... I am looking forward..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413510

[SOLVED] Not able to connect diamond to system in 'Disk Drive' Mode

Hello Friends,
I got a new HTC Touch Diamond about two days ago. I'm very eager to transfer my songs to it and when I tried to do so by connecting the phone to the system in 'Disk Drive' mode, it didn't work.
Each time I would connect the phone to my system and select the Disk Drive mode, the below would happen:
1. I'll see a 'New Disk Drive found' notification in my system tray.
2. The add new hardware wizard would come up with a message stating that there was a problem installing the new drive.
These two steps would keep on repeating untill I unplug the phone.
Though, I can connect the phone in ActiveSync mode without any issues.
If anyone of you has faced this issue, please let me know what needs to be done? Am I missing something?
Note: I had an older version of ROM (ROM version: 1.93.720.2) when I got the phone and I updated to ROM version: 1.93.720.4. I faced this issue both the times.

I have never used the disk drive mode. This restricts you from doing many things. I would suggest transferring all your files through activesync in the normal "Explore" way. This way may take a bit longer to transfer your files, but you can also sync them (the music ones) with your pc if you have Vista.....

mitsi said:
I have never used the disk drive mode. This restricts you from doing many things. I would suggest transferring all your files through activesync in the normal "Explore" way. This way may take a bit longer to transfer your files, but you can also sync them (the music ones) with your pc if you have Vista.....
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I agree that it applies a few restrictions, however, transferring files via this mode is much faster.
I appreciate your reply, yet I need to get the disk drive mode working.
Thanks,

trivedivishal said:
I agree that it applies a few restrictions, however, transferring files via this mode is much faster.
I appreciate your reply, yet I need to get the disk drive mode working.
Thanks,
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try changin another usb port, i suspect the port is faulty.. or change another cable.. i encounter such issue before and it turn out dat my usb port is acting weird..

Is possible to have an issue with windows drivers.
If the phone is working in active sync mode with the same port and cable, is not that.
While is connected as Disk Drive in device manager in USB section are you seeing it as storage?
If is there try from computer management\disk management to see if the partition from the phone is ok.
Best regards,

[SOLVED] Not able to connect diamond to system in 'Disk Drive' Mode Reply to Thread
This problem is solved for me now.
It appeared that the problem lay with my system and not the phone. I removed unneccesary programs and "cleaned" my system by using a trial version of System Mechanic v8.
I tried connecting after and now both disk drive mode and activesync mode work for me.
Thanks,