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Hey guys, i don't know if it have been asked here before. But I am just curious, what happen if i keep on flashing new ROM on my device? is it gonna cause something to my motherboard or other part?
anyway, this is just a question. not happening to me yet.
I am asking because this is what happen to my last iPhone.. i guess????
Well, you may brick your device. Maybe that's what happened to your iPhone. But that will happen if you're reckless and don't read instructions. If you follow the right steps there should be no problem.
Anyways, flashing a new rom is always under your own responsibility. I cannot guarantee anything but I've flashed my ipod touch, my omnia and my xperia maybe 30 or 40 times each one and never had any bricks. Almost bricked the itouch though, but I revived it at last.
ooo.. hmmm.. when u flash u xperia.. how do u restart after the message show its done? my xperia always stay at the done screen after i flash any new rom. in my case i usually either i press the restart button at the back or open the battery.. anyway im using micro sd method.
always hard reset after flashing is done
simultaneously pressing two silver buttons on front + soft reset
and why should flashing bother/damage your motherboard (if done correctly)?
all flash memory have a limited number of times you can write to them before they die
but being that all our storage is in the same type of flash mem as your rom
you flashing your rom is not the first place the flash mem will wear out
Yes yoiu risk bricking your phone, but it comes with the territory. You'll never know if your next flash is buggy/there's a glitch in your phone that'll brick it.
It's like someone who goes out of his house a lot has a greater chance of getting run over by a car when he crosses the street, compared to someone who stays at home 24/7. But the guy who goes out has more fun.
This might be a dumb question, how much flashing roms, mods, gapps, themes, and everything else we do can the Hero take before taking a crap? I am fairly new here and to all of this and daily I see something I want to try! So I flash, wipe, whatever is needed to change me phone around. Its becoming like an addiction! Like most addictions there are consequences though, is the Hero crapping out one of them? I have noticed that after flashing back and forth between roms starts catching up to the phones performance and a full wipe is needed, cache, data, everything now and then. Things just stop working like the market, it will open but will close after a few seconds. Settings will do the same, a reboot might help but ultimately starting from a clean slate is needed to cure these issues. Am I going to far, should I set it up and leave it, I just dont want to go back to sprint with yet another messed up hero, this is my 3rd phone, lol. Any input from experience, thoughts, stories heard from around the way, all will be appreciated
Thanks
Well your supposed to wipe everything everytime you switch roms, so if you're not doing that, that could be some of the reason your phone bogs down. Themes and stuff, not always necessary but, is recommended often. Alot of people here flash all kinds of stuff all the time, its addicting. But as long as you're wiping you shouldn't have any problems.
Wiping does suck, but you should only need to do it if you're switching from completely different roms. Its a neccessary evil.
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Well your supposed to wipe everything everytime you switch roms, so if you're not doing that, that could be some of the reason your phone bogs down. Themes and stuff, not always necessary but, is recommended often. Alot of people here flash all kinds of stuff all the time, its addicting. But as long as you're wiping you shouldn't have any problems.
Wiping does suck, but you should only need to do it if you're switching from completely different roms. Its a neccessary evil.
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I have went from all the colored mods of cm6 (blk, vanilla, extrmblue, so on) with no wipe. I went to AOSP rom, back to extremely blue, well you get it. All these were done with no wipe. I never did do the factory/wipe data, once I did that it was like starting all over from nothing, clean install. That has fixed all my issues. Thank You for your help
Hello everyone,
I have recently upgraded from Windows mobile (tilt2) to Samsung Captivate (att)
I am pretty upset that they are taking forever to release the update and I would like to install a custom rom with Froyo, and without the bloatware!
So my questions are: (ive tried to do a ton of research so far so but am confused with this cant get definite answers)
I know it comes down to preference, but I would like to know which Rom is the most stable, best battery life, and good performance out of all the roms. I was considering the Firefly or the andromeda, or cognition...but maybe a better option? Which would be best for me, im not big into themes, just want best reliability, battery life is a huge thing for me as well. So which is best for me?
Also, I am confused with all these modem versions, my 3g currently is slow as ish on my 2.1 stock rom download speed is sad in my area and i get atlest 3-4 bars.
I rarely break 200kbps. meanwhile i see ppl getting 1mbps speed with their iphone sitting right next to me!!! So speed is important for me too. (internet and OS)
My last concern is will it be possible to do a complete backup of my current stock rom just incase i need to revert for warranty purposes?
I read the guide to upgrade the roms, watched the videos, nd plan to do it again b4 i attempt then follow directions very very carefully as i do it....
I was ok with flashing WinMo roms...but android is very different and it seems alot more confusing to me (maybe because i am new to it)
Im scared to brick my beautiful new phone...i love it so much.
but i feel i am held back with 2.1...no flash, crappy gps, and the custom roms im seeing are amazing looking!!!
So please help me with answers to my couple questions...
basically best rom for reliablilty, battery life, performance with best modem too.
Least amount of bugs, and theme isnt too big for me. the other things much more important!
And if im able to revert to stock no problem for warranty (if necessary)
so far my phone is AWESOME! but 2.2 is way better with flash and better gps.
Sorry for long post...THANKS SO MUCH IN ADVANCE FOR ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS!!! YOU GUYS ARE AMAZING!
(u guys have dozens of versions of Froyo for captivate, and ATT cant even put out one! go figure!)
Well stock is in my 4shared...link in my sig. As for ROMs it always varies. Flash any you want. Only thing you need to check is if your 3 button recovery works. If it does your golden and flash away.
Sorry i am on my phone and its after 2am..... so no links
If you have really researched you would know there is no definitive answer to your question. Each rom has the chance to react differently between phones. Asking which rom is the best depends on YOUR phone and the combination of kernel/modem vary as well. Read up on how to properly installation rom. Read how to recover your phone from a bootloop/semi brick state. Readhow to use odin to flash to stock if you get that soft brick. Also learn how to make a jig if all else fails. Once all that is in placestart flashing roms to see which one is best for your phone.
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i knew i was gonna get that answer lol....
I have read the guide...i plan on reading again and again...
its not easy stuff for a noob...
and i am very computer literate.
But anyway...I have a Captivate, and i was watching rom reviews i remember josh saying that the firefly was good for day to day use.and that is what i would like.
I was just hoping for ur guys opinions. what worked best for u.
I saw alot of ppl were sayin the andromeda was saying it was a favorite among alot of people, great battery life too...
so i hope i can get some good answers from everyone...i would like to flash once with a great rom, and just chill wit it...
I did do research. alot of research. but i guess u must have learned everything over a period of months...but for me im tryin to cram everything i learned so far in 2-3 days.
i wanna flash but i dont want to mess anything up.
seems like it is not likely to hard brick the phone....and usually it can be recovered no problem...
i will continue my research, i was just hoping to get answers from much more experienced people than me...
I have a ATT Samsung Captivate (us version)
Which would the best rom for me to start with. (battery life, performance, and reliability/least bugs) are 3 most important things to me.
Themes are not as important to me.
Im goin to lay down. hopefully get some good answers when i wake up!
Keep in mind guys, IM BRAND NEW HERE. I APPRECIATE EVERYONES BRILLIANT MINDS!
and i appreciate ur hospitality in advance!
thanks guys!
It takes more than a couple days of reading to get a understanding on how all of this works on the Captivate.There really isn't any crash course to take to accomplish what you want.Time is your friend..not your enemy on this..The more time you take..the more information you have before you.
Each phone (this includes yours) reacts differently to all the various themes..kernels..modems..and roms. Each person that does this..needs to find the best combination that will give them what they are hoping to achieve...ie: looks..speed..stability..battery life..download speed..gps..ect...
What you have to do..is find a rom you are interested in..read the thread from start to current..and then decide if what is being said about it will match your wants & needs.Then find out what modem works best on your phone ... in your area... to give you the best signal reception.. download speeds..voice clarity..and battery life. Same for the kernels..which one will work properly with the modem..that gives you good stable performance without changing your download speed..Both must work in conjunction with each other.
Everyone has favorites..on each item..and just because a certain combination works superbly for my phone..doesn't mean it will work for you..The beauty of Android..is you have the chance to change each part to make your phone perform as you want it..You have a multitude of choices...so..where to begin...
For a starting point..here is what I would do..Ensure your phone has the 3 button recovery..If it does..download the correct Odin..If it doesn't..download the Odin with the 3 button recovery fix in it..Download and install the correct drivers for your phone..Read the entire Odin threads for each..from start to finish..and memorize the proper sequence of how to properly flash back to stock..Download the update.zip file to your PC..as well as the 1 click root program..this way you have both...the update.zip file gives you root very easily..and having that file will save you a lot of time..and the 1 click root/un-root if you need to return to 100% stock for some reason..It's a real good idea to learn how to do all of this before you flash any custom rom..Then you can start prepairing to change your phone..flying blind on doing this can lead to messing up your phone..so..be prepared to invest a lot of time reading everything you can first..
Make several folders on your pc/mac that will contain different roms...theme...kernels...modems..gps tweaks...wi-fi fixes..then start filling those folders up..
Then you can learn how to flash themes..roms..kernels..and modems..and you do that by reading and studying how to on each of those threads..There is a ton of information to go over...
Now you have a idea of why folks won't just say what you should do...There is so many different combinations to choose from..and for a n00b it is overwhelming..but you have to start by having an idea of what you want..what you want it to look like..and how you want it to perform..and then assemble the various items..and then assemble it yourself..Many of the Custom roms..have attempted to do this for you..and many prefer having someone do it for them..than attempt to learn how to do it for themselves....Some are full featured roms..others are stripped down version..that you have to download what you need for it..In the end..many of us have take a little from each..and mix and match to get our phones where we want them to be..because of what I underlined above..There is a lot more to learn..but..in time..you will..cause we all do learn new stuff about them everyday we work with them..The more you learn..the more you can change..
Hope this helps
Mac
All of the ROMs are different even though they are kinda the same (I don't know if that makes sense), but I would do as smoke said, verify your 3 button recovery works and find one of the many roms out there that sounds like it appeals to you. I started out using Cognition until one Saturday I woke up and looked through the forums and I found another rom that looked good. I didn't know how it ran or anything, I just liked the look of it. That weekend I flashed 4 different ROMs until I found the one that I liked best. Since then I stuck with the same 2-3 devs. It took me a while to get comfortable flashing but after a while you'll find yourself flashing in the middle of afternoon traffic.
Many of the people are helpful here and are more than happy to help. Just keep in mind that what works for me, may not work for you and vice versa. A lot of the threads have 100s if not 1000s of posts and that can be pretty intimidating but honestly I just catch up on the last few pages and I'm kinda tracking. Also many of the devs have IRC rooms to chat for any questions.
Check this thread out here and this one here for some additional help.
Happy Flashing!!
This is a basic tutorial I wrote up a few months ago for the basic flashing back to stock. It has the link for Odin 1 Click, and for Windows drivers, which you'll need:
Flash to Stock JF6:
1. Download Odin One Click from: http://www.mediafire.com/?0w2y31maz8mdom4
2. Download your Windows Drivers from:
Windows 64bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?3dh4d6up72me9re
Windows 32bit: http://www.mediafire.com/?0b45zo7o75rc5d5
3. Make sure your USB cable is connected directly to the back of your computer, not a USB hub or to a front connection and all of your drivers have been properly installed
4. Do not connect your USB cable yet.
5. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
6. Turn your phone off
7. Remove your SIM card and Micro SD if you have one
8. Open Odin One Click
9. On your phone, press and hold the Volume up and the Volume down buttons. Do not touch the power button
10. While holding them, insert your USB cable, wait for a couple of seconds and a yellow triangle with the Android figure will show up
11. You’ll see in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
12. Press “Start”
13. Do Not mess with your phone at all
14. When it is done, your phone will reboot and Odin will display “Removed”
15. Unplug your USB cable from your phone
16. If you are proceeding to Master clear, you must close Odin BEFORE Master Clear
Master Clear:
1. Ensure you have backed up all of your information onto your Micro SD or your desktop BEFORE doing this. IT WILL ERASE EVERYTHING ON YOUR INTERNAL SD!!
2. Make sure to remove your SIM and Micro SD if you have one
3. With your USB cable disconnected from your phone, open Odin One Click
4. On your phone, go to ; Settings/Applications/Development/and check “USB Debugging”
5. Connect your USB cable to your phone
6. You’ll in Odin, that your phone has been discovered
7. Click “Master Clear”
8. When the Master Clear has completed, your phone will reboot
9. You’ll need to re-enable USB Debugging again
Remember to take what you read with a grain of salt; like it's been said before, your device can act very differently than someone else's in the thread you are reading. So your milage may vary. Also remember not to be turned off by the negatives you read in a thread, some people just like to nitpick and complain. For ME, I find that if you take the theme, and set it aside, that what you're looking for is a ROM that works for your device. At the core they are pretty much the same, and any thing you don't really like as far as the theming is concerned, can be changed. So what I think you need to find is a ROM/Kernel/Modem combo that gives you good marks on the basics; call quality, WiFi, BT, signal, if the signal/call quality isnt quite right, take a look at a new modem, if there is a little hickup in the functionality, try a different kernel.
My own piece of advise, stay away from the kernels that are OC'd until you are well versed in the flashing and so on. They can cause some problems, and I personally find aren't needed.
I'm partial(as you can see by my signature) to the Phoenix ROM. It's 2.2.1 i9000 based, where as Adams other ROM Firefly, is Rogers 2.2. Over and above all things, they are great threads, and most everyone is really, really helpful
Good luck and happy flashing
thanks so much for the reply. i def read ur tutorial before!
i actualy was wondering if that would set back to stock rom, woul that be stock so i can send back the phone if i need to for warranty purposes?
thanks for all the replies!!
i did alot of research, i think im going with the cognition rom....
seems to be the best for what i want for...
just straight up reliability, performance an battery life. but reliability above all.
maybe if that isnt good for my phone, then i will try firefly.
i already got all the ddriverrs, software, etc...
im just nervous to go thru with it because im scared of breakin my beautiful phone!! (i was also scared bout doin custom roms to my winmo phones in the past, but once i get past the fear and actually do it, i usually find it to be a simple process...)
please excuse my errors, my keyboard on my laptop is retarded...
Thanks again guys!
If anyone has any tips for a first timer, please feel free to let me know!!
Thanks!
Ok, I have been a little confused with this, and pretty much this is my major concern before i go ahead and flash...
Pretty much my worry is backing up the nvdata information...
I feel this is by far the most important step. And if it is at all possible i would like to extract this data somehow and store it on my computer hard drive, on a cd, and thumb drive (to be redundant- just incase i ever need it again).
once i figure out how to be safe with that vital data, i plan on goin ahead and flashin!
I was readin up on the phoenix rom too...
looking at all these roms makes me feel like im at a restaurant and i cant choose!
nv data is only important if you use kies.
Dl either
Root explorer
Super manager
Android mate
Find efs folder on your phone, copy and paste on your sd
Mount phone move to pc
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the popular custom roms. Virtually all of them are better choices than stock. Your choice for Cognition is a good one. I have enjoyed it in the past. I'm currently running Perception 10.3 from the same developer (DesignGears). His work seems consistently high...but many others do great work, too.
Titanium Backup (market) is a good application for backing up key apps + data. Also, it can sync with a dropbox account if you have one. Once you install your new rom, you can then use Titanium backup to restore missing apps and data. (just don't restore system data to avoid messing up a new rom). It might be a good thing to practice with Titanium prior to flashing a new rom just to make sure you can delete and restore a critical application and its data.
ok so i rooted my phone, i backed up everything with titanium as per the guide.
so if i just use the clockwork recovery to install cognition rom then it will carry over the imei number and EVERYTHING else?
I ccant figure out how to save this data the efs folder or w/e...its really too complicated.
it seems like im just about half way done. since i have stock rom already, i dont need to use the odin to restore.
So clock work to install and restore with titantium.
So if i just install cognition as per instructions on the sticky thread, then i wont have ANY problems as far as my phones 'identity' (droid id, imei, etc..)?
Im guessin cwm will restore this autommatically, or it will just carry over?
i have a feeling that today i will finally have 2.2!
i just need to clear this one last concern up!
THANKS EVERYONE!
I am lazy so I did not read all the post.
Did you use android id changer to save your current id?
I have never backed up my efs file.
Only restore user apps with titanium
no i didnt do that. lol
this is why im sooo nervous about flashing this rom...
cuz i read the instructions on the sticky forum and it seems straight forward...
then i start reading posts about how u need to back up nvdata, efs folders, now im hearing about android id changer....
im glad i didnt flash it yet, cuz i might have avoided a mistake!
Pretty much i just rooted my phone, backed up apps and data like said in the instructions on the sticky topic. I downloaded cognition rom...
and i am hesitant to proceed...
i dont want to make a serious mistake!!!
is this android id changer a nessisity?
i been reading all over the boards and it is confusing the hell out of me!!!
Deep breath
You are flashing a rom not recreating the wheel.
Android id changer is soo easy to use that it makes no sense not to back up your id. App is free, open it, save id, done.
How about you're contacts, have you backed them up? If you have an external sd, go to contacts, menu, export/import, save to sd
it is not hard, it just takes some reading and getting used to. In a month you will be flashing with your eyes closed.
If you want help along the way drop me a pm
Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?
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Hey mcord, since you're being so helpful, can you tell me why we should backup the android id? What is it used for?
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Android id is a unique identifier for your phone. When you flash a custom rom it gets changed. It can cause some issues with downloading from the market, and some games identify your device using that id.
I have flashed and not restored my id without issues before, but it is real easy and is a way of troubleshooting before a problem happens
Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.
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Thanks, now I know why the Chase app says your phone is not registered after flashing a new rom. lol.
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You can grab it if you go back to stock or if you have a nandroid of stock there is a way to get it
thanks mcord....so i dont need to worry about anything else then?
i backed up wit titaanium...all contacts are saved on my gmail...
i am goin to back up the id then ill proceeed with the flashing..
my main concern was the imei and stuff like that...but it doesnt seem like it will b an issue...
thanks buddy!
I used to be a Droid 1 user and I played with a lot of custom ROMs. Got the Droid 4 on release day and I'm thinking of playing around with custom ROMs.
If I install the recovery and a custom ROM, isn't the factory restore option always on the phone so anytime I want, I can restore the phone to the day I got it?
Are there any downsides to installing custom ROMs as of now (such as battery, glitches, etc)
I rooted my phone and I've seen a decline in battery life. There is another thread about it but I wanted to ask here, anybody else have this issue?
Lastly, is it worth installing custom ROMs now or just waiting for the official ICS update? I basically just want a working phone with the best battery possible. The only reason I rooted was to uninstall the bloatware on the phone however wifi tether and screenshot are nice to have.
Thanks!
Installing any custom ROM right now is going to be a little risky simply because there are no fastboot files to restore your phone with. Now, SafeStrap does a pretty good job of minimizing that risk by creating what is essentially a dualboot environment allowing you to run a secondary ROM on your phone while leaving the stock ROM intact.
I am running the ICS Beta ROM by Hashcode and it is running really well for me. Battery life has been fine, pretty much on par with stock. Being a beta there are things that are not perfect but I am using it as a daily driver with no issues. You can find a list of known bugs in the ROM OP. Although it seems to be hit a miss with some of them. I have had no issues with wifi or mobile data connections at all.
I ran stock rooted for about 1 1/2 weeks and didn't notice any decline in battery life personally. Not I froze apps rather than uninstalling anything so I could get them back if I needed to. And I really didn't freeze much unless it was something I saw running in the background that I knew I wouldn't need/use.
Really, if you are just looking for a phone that works with the best battery life, you are probably better off staying with stock. In my experience with the Droid 2, no ROM I ran could touch stock for battery life. And really, I think the stock experience on the D4 is fine. The bloatware wasn't overly bad IMO, smart actions is pretty neat, and the UI was plenty snappy. I'm just a flashaholic.
I am quite happy with stock after debloating it.
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Thanks for explaining safestrap. Does it actually set up a dual-boot environment, or does it swap out /system, /data, etc. I've tried reading hashcode's blog, but the instructions are a little fuzzy on what exactly is going on. I don't have my D4 yet, and I'd like to get a handle on what exactly safestrap is doing before I take the plunge.
Currently I have a D1 and I'll fully admit I'm spoiled that it is essentially unbrickable. Once, I screwed it up so bad that it wouldn't even boot up into recovery. I have no idea how I managed that, but a quick session with RSDlite fixed everything...
Of course, I know a lot more now than I did back then, but here is hoping we get hold of some fastboot images for the D4 soon...
I finally took the plunge and installed Safestrap. Once your phone is rooted, you just run an APK installed on your phone. The process feels incredibly clean, and I was completely comfortable that as long as I was careful, nothing bad would happen. This proved to be true.
It really does set up a dual-boot. I spent several hours today playing with CM9, and when I was done, I simply disabled the safe system, and the phone booted right back up into my rooted and debloated stock. The most dangerous part is making sure that you do NOT try to flash over the non-safe system, and, in fact, Safestrap generally won't even let you do that.
Not only did I find that Safestrap worked great, but CM9 works better on the Droid 4 than almost any other device I have played with it on. If they can make sure that the data connection is reliable and get the font camera working, it is practically ready for prime time. Everything else works great. I am now confident that we will see CM9 for the Droid 4 as soon as CM itself is complete and stable, since drivers do not seem to be a problem on this phone. I also suspect we will see some CM7-based roms quite quickly as well.
I am also very glad of the option to always easily revert back to the stock system without losing anything, it will make going to the Verizon store very easy if I ever need to.
I also came from a D1, installing ROMs was so easy, I'm a little hesitant on this one especially since a genuine ICS update is on the way. I might wait for that before I try custom ROMs. I use a front camera a lot so CM9 is unfortunately out of question. My battery issue was solved with a calibrate (deleting batterystats) even though it's not supposed to work, I can confirm that it definitely worked for me.
Once you toggle on the safe system, installing ROMS is just as easy as it was on the D1. What is nice, though, is you can keep your stock system fully in tact. I actually keep my phone on a simple rooted stock, but when a friend asks about Android ICS, I just toggle on the safe system, and boot it up. When I'm done, I toggle off the safe system, and back to stock. Safestrap is awesome.
core2kid... this is moto, the official update is gonna take 3-6 months so i would not suggest waiting it out.
i came from a D1 as well and safestrap bugged me out for a while... but once i installed and started using it i really like it. think of it as a dual-boot.
1 is your stock system that you do not f** with... you just leave it so that you have a backup should you f** up your...
2nd system is the one you flash all your ROMs on... no matter what you do to it, the first system is not touched, so you have to try REALLY hard to brick it.
Thanks. I'll give it a go. Last question, if I have hardware issues with the phone, is there a way to restore it to factory so I can warranty it? My main concern is my battery dying. I don't want to be stuck with a useless phone because the battery is in built.
i cant say with 100% certainty, but theres got to be a way.
as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.
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as for the battery... it will probably die the day after your warranty is up, and by then there will be DIY replacement kits.
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With my luck, I can see that happening :/
So My phone is most certainly bricked this morning. I saw a few posts on the topic, as well as one that was locked. Seems that there a re more than 5 of us, can a mod by chance merge the posts, so we can start troubleshooting the issue, and keep it from happening in the future. I will describe what I have done, and maybe it will help someone come up with an idea of what binds us all to our bricks.
Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away I was a flashoholic:
So I get my black one in the mail, and start playing in the forums, seeing what's what, and I go about trying to moonshine, firmware doesn't match so it doesn't work, get her rooted, s-off with revone, and flash a few sense based roms. No problems. Try the cm rom listed in the first post of the 10.1 link, no gps, weak signal, back to sense. Finally get a few of the threads completely read, and find rc2 of 10.1 flash(using twrp 2.6.1.0, and I do all the wipes and format data, and factory reset before sideloading my roms) get it up and running, gps works, find the build.prop line to edit to get it to stick to sprint to work, and away we go, rom is good, problems are small, phone working exactly llike it's supposed to. I did play with trickster mod here and there, but didn't much care for the program. So was playing in original development, and saw that the twrp forum had new input, so I go into it, and see a new twrp available (2.6.3.0) dl, flash the .img, reboot recovery, wipe everything, sideload 10.1 rc2 again and gapps. Almost immediately noticed the temp on the phone was very warm, almost hot, and that was without being on the charger. It was bedtime, so plugged phone in, go to bed, get up look at phone, and its at 50 percent on the dot, and no red light. Houston we have a problem. So I start researching how to ruu back to stock, and just to see if it was the recovery, I flashed cwm, didn't like it, and then reflashed the older twrp, problem persists, well I really didn't want my phone to reach 0 percent battery, so the race was on, set phone on ac vent and charge it, take it off charger, it would drop 20 to 30 percent in five to ten minutes. Get ruu downloaded, can't get it to run, troubleshooting that, my battery plugged in is down to 6 percent and the speakers are hissing at me, when I see the problem, plug it in to the laptop, run ruu, watching phone, watching progress, complete!!! yes reboot phone, log in to gmail, get message about phone using more power than it's receiving (plugged in to wall again) and boom shutdown. So now I'm thinking to myself hrmm good or bad, red light says charging, go smoke a few cigs comeback in phone boots, and is charging, no errors, everything is running like it is supposed to, everything works. It's still very warm though for not running much of nothing, leave it in the cold air, and she charges up to 100% (albeit slowly took most of the day) unplug her, go to sleep, and about 3 hours later I heard the low battery warning, and woke up to my nice black brick. No red light, no pressing buttons for x amount of time, she is most certainly dead.
Hopefully this can help us figure out what is causing the bricks.
And only 3 more hours to the sprint store opens :victory: that's bound to be fun
I'm willing to bet your phone had a bad battery. Too bad we can't check for ourselves.
I was running slim rom and after a few days i lost all sound on my phone, even with headphones plugged in. Flashed a Stock rooted sprint ROM, still no sound. I then decided flash the hexed fastboot menu to mask the S-off, "tampered flags" and splash screen, RUU'ed back to stock and returned the phone. I'm hesitant to flash another asop rom, I'll just flash sense Roms from now on. Still waiting on that 4.3.
phatmanxxl said:
I'm willing to bet your phone had a bad battery. Too bad we can't check for ourselves.
I was running slim rom and after a few days i lost all sound on my phone, even with headphones plugged in. Flashed a Stock rooted sprint ROM, still no sound. I then decided flash the hexed fastboot menu to mask the S-off, "tampered flags" and splash screen, RUU'ed back to stock and returned the phone. I'm hesitant to flash another asop rom, I'll just flash sense Roms from now on. Still waiting on that 4.3.
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Yeah, I agee. There is nothing in your story that makes me think the problem was an AOSP ROM.
raptoro07 said:
Yeah, I agee. There is nothing in your story that makes me think the problem was an AOSP ROM.
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I don't know, I love Slim ROMs but if it happens again Sprint will start asking questions and might investigate the phone, plus I got the last red phone in stock
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Yeah, I agee. There is nothing in your story that makes me think the problem was an AOSP ROM.
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How many brick threads have you seen in here on Sense roms?
n1gh7m4r3 said:
How many brick threads have you seen in here on Sense roms?
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Including folks that flashed gsm roms? Zero
n1gh7m4r3 said:
How many brick threads have you seen in here on Sense roms?
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So in summary: you flashed an aosp Rom decided to go back to a sense Rom decided to go back to aosp messed around flashing recoveries, ruu'd back to stock and then it died. You got a lot going on there is what I'm saying.
but it's ok to eat fish cause they don't have feelings.....
i wont even flash an aosp rom on this phone i have seen a few people brick while on aosp.. and the dude i got my one from he bricked his first one running an aosp rom.. he said he rooted it flash an aosp rom.. was fine for a week or so the while listing to music on the phone it died brick.. im not saying its deff aosp roms but i have seen and heard enough where im not going to try it... lol im good with my sense:good:
I wonder what's the difference between GE ones and Sense ones.
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So in summary: you flashed an aosp Rom decided to go back to a sense Rom decided to go back to aosp messed around flashing recoveries, ruu'd back to stock and then it died. You got a lot going on there is what I'm saying.
but it's ok to eat fish cause they don't have feelings.....
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I guess you could summarize it like that, but I thought that I stated I knew it was going to die, shortly after I upgraded my recovery. All flashing after that was an attempt to troubleshoot/save the beast if at all possible.
Well I know what's causing the bricks.
So i figured out in part at least what is indeed causing the bricks. It was my first guess, but I messaged a couple of kernel devs, and the information they gave me led me to believe my first assumption was wrong. Apparently it was not. i am not sure if it's an aosp thing, a twrp (was using 2.6.1.0) when I found out, or just a really nice user error experienced by a handful of people. But regardless, either the kernel, and or some of it's settings are not being wiped in twrp to include an advanced wipe of all check boxes besides usbotg, a format data, and then a factory reset wipe. So when kernel or settings interact with new kernel/rom that you install and they don't play nice together, you get your nice little brick. Oh but how do I come across such preposterous conclusions you ask yourself? So I payed my 50 bucks, got my new phone, put my go to rom on it, and play away; lo and behold a stable 10.1 cm comes out. Can't resist, must flash, disapointing to see in the stable release the first thing I have to do is edit build prop to get sprint signal(it is a sprint rom yes?) Still liking the rom for what it is, probably my favorite, except Trebuchet is laggy as S**t(ping pongs kernels alleviate this, but his kernels are for 10.2). So in an attempt to fig the lag, i play with different settings and whatnot that I found laying around xda here and there. nothing is helping with the stutter I see on the home screen. So I go to the main One thread, and look around for kernels, I find one, don't figure it will work, but figure I'll just wipe if it does bad things to my phone; and it did. 8 boot loops later what do I do? Wipe everything as mentioned above, and sideload 10.1 stable, guess what happens on reboot? That's right bootloops. So some how the kernel or some of it or its settings at least are not going away as they should on a clean install, and that I'm sure is what is causing the bricks.
Ty,
I'll be here all night
You sure do keep a really good attitude through it all though. We've all been there but you are purposely putting yourself and wallet through it over and over to find the culprit. I for one appreciate it.
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